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You are here: Home / z-Retired Categories / Site Maintenance / Balloon Juice Pages Still Automatically Refreshing For No Reason?

Balloon Juice Pages Still Automatically Refreshing For No Reason?

by WaterGirl|  October 20, 202111:50 am| 112 Comments

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A few days ago I put up this post: Balloon Juice Pages Automatically Refreshing For No Reason?

The (Blog) Doctor Is In. Tell Me What Ails You.

First, I want to thank everyone who responded to say whether you are experiencing the problem or not, and double-thanks to everyone who included specific information in the their comments.

After seeing how widespread the problem is, I called Cole.  John and I had a candid conversation in which he may or may not have said “why are you yelling at me?” when we were discussing the video ad.

The video ad is the most likely culprit behind the “automatically refreshing” problem, but I don’t think that is the only culprit re: the site issues.  I think the other ads are playing a part, as well, but that’s a question for another day.

First things first.  We are changing one thing at a time.

The video ad has been turned off.

What we need now is or all of you to weigh again in the comments with as much detail as you can.  Even if you didn’t comment in the previous thread, please comment in this one whether you have a problem or not.

If you say it’s not a problem for you now, and it never was, please share information about your devices, your browser versions, your ad blocker and anything else that seems relevant.  See details 1 through 4 in the paragraphs below.

If you say it was a problem before but it’s not now, please tell us 1) what devices it’s a problem on, 2) what browsers it’s a problem with, 3) whether you use an ad blocker and what ad blocker you use, and 4) whether you use Brave as your browser.  And anything else that seems relevant.

If you say it was a problem before and it’s still a problem, please tell us 1) what devices it’s a problem on, 2) what browsers it’s a problem with, 3) whether you use an ad blocker and what ad blocker you use, and 4) whether you use Brave. And anything else that seems relevant.

I would also especially like to hear from ReadWrite, Ken and FlyingToaster, who left especially detailed comments in the previous post.

Bottom line:  John and I are both committed to resolving the problems once and for all.

But we need your help, and very specific information, in order to do that.  This post today is step one.

 

 

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  1. 1.

    Leslie

    October 20, 2021 at 11:56 am

    The problem has not recurred for me since I posted about it last night. Safari on iPad Pro, iOS 14.8, no ad blocker (but I would have to seriously consider one if video ads with self-starting audio were going to be a regular feature). HTH.

  2. 2.

    BellyCat

    October 20, 2021 at 11:58 am

    (iPad Pro / iPhone  8 latest OS, Safari, no blockers. )

    The problem is (or was, not sure yet if turning off video ad worked) the same as it was probably six months ago. While reading through the threads starting at the main page – – this is the important part , because no single thread was clicked on yet – – the entire website would reload on its on after several minutes.

    The only way to prevent the problem then and recently was to click on a thread and then use the forward or backward arrows at the top to view each thread. Did not seem to reload when I did this.

    In other words, the problem seems inherent to the main page only but not when one drills into a specific thread.

    Not sure if this helps or not

  3. 3.

    MattF

    October 20, 2021 at 11:58 am

    Don’t have the problem, never had it. IPad Air gen 3, Safari (possibly not the most current version), ‘Magic Lasso’ ad blocker.

  4. 4.

    cope

    October 20, 2021 at 11:59 am

    I didn’t comment before but I was having problems when logged in on my iPhone. In fact, I tried to comment about it but the refresh issue kept zapping my comment before I could post it. I’m hardly ever at my actual computer lately so I cannot comment about problems there.

    Obviously, no problems this morning.

  5. 5.

    Lapassionara

    October 20, 2021 at 11:59 am

    I was having that problem, but not just on Balloon Juice. IPad, safari. No ad blocker. I will let you know if it happens again today.

  6. 6.

    SiubhanDuinne

    October 20, 2021 at 12:00 pm

    iPhone 8+, Safari, iOS 14 or whatever the latest version is. I’ve had the automatic refreshing problem intermittently for a couple of weeks now. It was there this morning (around 8:30-9:00 EDT) but KNOCK WOOD seems to be okay now.

    Thanks for following up on this, WG, and doing what you can to fix the problem. Let us know if you need donations to offset any loss of ad revenue.

    ETA: I don’t use an ad blocker.

  7. 7.

    Bill Arnold

    October 20, 2021 at 12:01 pm

    I’ve not seen this. For balloon-juice.com, I use Brave, Chrome, Firefox (all on Ubuntu Linux and Windows) , Kiwi Browser on an android tablet, Brave on an android tablet, Brave on iOS (phone).   For some reason my Firefox plugins loadout blocks full preview of tweets (they show as text mode) so I sometimes look at top level posts in a chrome-based browser. (Usually Brave because chrome is logged into gmail and I hate google’s tracking.)

    All the desktop browsers have at least uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger, and some have script blockers (e.g. NoScript on FF, ScriptSafe on Chrome/Brave). Base browser privacy settings turned up where reasonable e.g. Firefox.  Some browsers have additional tracker blocker plugins.

  8. 8.

    NorthLeft12

    October 20, 2021 at 12:06 pm

    Still happening for me. Tough to get details to you as the page wipes out my comment before I have a chance to note all the details you want.

    Apple iPad, Safari, no ad blockers. It does not do this on my Apple desk top.

    I have no idea what Brave is, so I don’t think I use it.

    I write a line, post it, then add lines in edit mode…..to beat the refresh.

  9. 9.

    Just Chuck

    October 20, 2021 at 12:08 pm

    Never been a problem for me: Chrome on macOS, uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger

    Solving it once and for all would involve switching to an ad network that doesn’t propagate auto-playing ads and borderline malware.

  10. 10.

    Alce _e_ardillo

    October 20, 2021 at 12:10 pm

    I think it has stopped as far as I can see.
    IPad Air
    Chrome

  11. 11.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    October 20, 2021 at 12:12 pm

    I have not experienced the problem on my computer (Win10, Firefox browser with AdBlock Plus) or my Android cell phone (Brave browser with built-in ad blocker).

  12. 12.

    Spanky

    October 20, 2021 at 12:14 pm

    Never a problem.

    Samsung S21. Samsung Internet beta browser.

  13. 13.

    Mary G

    October 20, 2021 at 12:15 pm

    No problems for me on both PC running Win10 and Chrome Version 94.0.4606.81 and Samsung A51 phone also with Chrome.

  14. 14.

    scav

    October 20, 2021 at 12:15 pm

    Never a problem I’ve observed on iPad 7th gen, running 15.0.2 in Safari using AdBlockPro. I’ve been seeing some wonkiness / achingly slow responses elsewhere, but not here, nor apparent automatic refreshes anywhere.

  15. 15.

    Edmund Dantes

    October 20, 2021 at 12:16 pm

    I had it happen exactly once since you mentioned it the first time and before the next post you put up about the subject. I have no idea if it was a video ad or not as I was on my iPhone X.

    I was scrolling through comments, longer thread I was coming back to (might have been a 200 plus one). I was just scrolling to get past a set of comments that I had already read. And page just refreshed on own.

    that was it.

  16. 16.

    cain

    October 20, 2021 at 12:18 pm

    You might be right, Watergirl – I didn’t participate in the other problem threads – but I did notice that the browser was repeatedly going to some ad website every 2 seconds or so. I never saw the refresh problem, but at one point it was messing with posting messages.

  17. 17.

    Jerzy Russian

    October 20, 2021 at 12:22 pm

    I can report the reloading problems when reading the COVID thread a few hours ago on my iPhone + Chrome.    I don’t know about now, as I seem to have misplaced the phone.

     

    Previously on my MacBook Pro (OS 10.14.6) and Chrome (version 94), I would constantly get a message at the bottom stating something was loading.  That has stopped for now.

  18. 18.

    Suzanne

    October 20, 2021 at 12:23 pm

    It was a problem as late as yesterday evening. It has not happened today so far.

    What had been happening is that the page would just randomly refresh while I was in the middle of typing a comment. It happened intermittently, about 4-5 times total. On iPhone and iPad.

  19. 19.

    laura

    October 20, 2021 at 12:24 pm

    No problems at all. Samsung A20, duck duck go browser and adblockers.

  20. 20.

    Fair Economist

    October 20, 2021 at 12:27 pm

    Never noticed a problem; using Opera on a Mac with adblocker and a late model Android phone without adblocker.

  21. 21.

    Other Other Other John

    October 20, 2021 at 12:27 pm

    never was problem.
    Chrome versions 87ish-94
    Windows 10 20H2 and 21H1
    No adblockers because I live dangerously

  22. 22.

    zhena gogolia

    October 20, 2021 at 12:28 pm

    never was problem

    Chrome on Mac laptop and desktop

    No ad blocker

  23. 23.

    jeffreyw

    October 20, 2021 at 12:30 pm

    Not a problem for me so far, win10, firefox, adguard.
    OT – I had to post this via text mode because visual mode refused a click to establish a cursor. This usually happens on a first comment to a new post – not sure if it’s just the first comment of the day after opening a new BJ tab but it may be.

  24. 24.

    Benno

    October 20, 2021 at 12:32 pm

    Well, I’ve only been on BJ a few minutes today, but I’ve gotten this far and the refresh issues are not appearing (so far).

    7th gen iPad, iOS 14.8, Safari browser, no adblocker, don’t use Brave. Big problem yesterday, no problem today.

  25. 25.

    Joey Maloney

    October 20, 2021 at 12:36 pm

    It has never been a problem for me. I was unaware of the problem until you posted about it.

    iPhone 12, iOS 13, 14, and 15, Safari and Chrome,  AdGuard

    MacBook Pro, Catalina and whatever was before Catalina, Safari with AdGuard and Chrome without.

  26. 26.

    Ruckus

    October 20, 2021 at 12:40 pm

    iMac, mac OS 15.0.2, Safari 15.0, AdGuard.

    The site was scrolling very jerky and on it’s own but not reloading as some are having and this seems to have stopped.

  27. 27.

    JaySinWa

    October 20, 2021 at 12:40 pm

    I’ve never seen the problem. Chromebook  with Chrome browser on both Version 93 and 94 (currently Version 94.0.4606.97) since the problem started. Ublock Origin ad blocker no Brave.

  28. 28.

    brendancalling

    October 20, 2021 at 12:43 pm

    The refreshing thing only happens on my phone, which is an iphone 7+ and uses the Safari browser.

    Oddly, I have the same problem when I use the Safari version of FB on my phone (I won’t download the app).

  29. 29.

    Geoduck

    October 20, 2021 at 12:45 pm

    I never had any problem. Windows 10, Firefox larded up with blockers.

  30. 30.

    Middlelee

    October 20, 2021 at 12:48 pm

    It is not now a problem and has never been a problem.  I only read BJ on my iMac desktop (is desk top redundant?) and I pop in several times a day, somehow always too late to every thread.  How does that happen

    My browser is Safari.

  31. 31.

    lowtechcyclist

    October 20, 2021 at 12:50 pm

    Not a problem now, wasn’t a problem before.

    Firefox on a Lenovo laptop, running Windows 10

    MS Edge on a HP desktop, running Windows 10

  32. 32.

    The Lodger

    October 20, 2021 at 12:50 pm

    Never a problem with me either. Win 10, Chrome. Also Android, Chrome. No ad blockers.

  33. 33.

    Baud

    October 20, 2021 at 12:54 pm

    Never was a problem on my Samsung phone using Samsung browser.

  34. 34.

    Noskilz

    October 20, 2021 at 1:17 pm

    I never experienced the refresh problem.

    The only device I have been using is a windows 10 pro desktop (AMD Ryzen 7 2700X, 32GB memory) running the chrome browser.  I don’t use an ad-blocker and my anti-virus software is Avast free version.

  35. 35.

    Shantanu Saha

    October 20, 2021 at 1:22 pm

    Didn’t notice the problem on BJ (but had it on other WordPress mobile sites) until after you posted the first message. Then started having the problem intermittently. On iPhone 8 Plus, iOS 15, Safari. Never had the problem on the desktop site, Firefox always updated to latest rev on MacBook Pro always updated to the latest MacOS.

  36. 36.

    Kristine

    October 20, 2021 at 1:26 pm

    Occasional crashing on iPhone 7, currently iOS 15.0 but happened with earlier versions as well. I assume the AdBlock Pro app is active–I have Safari set for “content blocking on all websites.” I can’t link the crashing to specific ads or attempts to block ads. I tend to blame my phone’s processor b/c iPhone 7 is on the cusp of obsolescence.

    No crashing today. Site’s working well

    No issues on laptop. Mid-2013 Mac Air, Big Sur 11.6, Safari 15.0

  37. 37.

    Anyway

    October 20, 2021 at 1:27 pm

    Experienced it on Android Chrome tablet. Never on Chrome Win10 laptop.

  38. 38.

    eclare

    October 20, 2021 at 1:32 pm

    I have never had this problem.  Samsung phone, whatever browser came with it.  I think it is an S10.

  39. 39.

    Betty

    October 20, 2021 at 1:34 pm

    The problem was still an issue this morning on my Kindle Fire using the Silk browser. I have not put any adblocker in place, but I do not usually see ads here, not sure why. Not a tech person at all.

  40. 40.

    Betty

    October 20, 2021 at 1:39 pm

    The problem was still an issue this morning on my Kindle Fire using the Silk browser. I have not put any adblocker in place, but I do not usually see ads here, not sure why. Not a tech person at all.

    @Betty: To upate, I have not had the problem with this post. I can hang around and see if it recurs.

  41. 41.

    Grover Gardner

    October 20, 2021 at 1:45 pm

    iPad Air, 14.7.1, Chrome browser.  Problem seems to have stopped after removing video ad.  So far so good this morning (PDST).  No auto-refreshes.

  42. 42.

    Ken

    October 20, 2021 at 1:46 pm

    I wasn’t seeing the reload problem, and still am not.  I also reported the network view showed a steady stream of requests to various ad sites; those are not happening now.

  43. 43.

    Betty

    October 20, 2021 at 1:48 pm

    And still good on the Kindle! So I will go now. Looks like you solved my problem so thank you, Watergirl and John.

  44. 44.

    FlyingToaster (Tablet)

    October 20, 2021 at 1:54 pm

    Thanks for the callout ?

    So, back on the iPadPro 10.5 inch with a button, iPadOS 14.8, Chrome latest.  Viewing as “desktop” version instead of mobile, which I forgot to mention previously.

    I turned off PrivacyPro to get an accurate read.

    3 minutes on the home page, no reload.

    5 minutes on this page and a comment, no reload.

    Home wifi instead of crappy hotel wifi, thank goodness.

    I’ll swing back in a few minutes with PrivacyPro on and see if it’s tracking anything interesting.

  45. 45.

    Jay

    October 20, 2021 at 2:06 pm

    What ever you guys did, today is the first day in 2 weeks where the site is not constantly refreshing, old IPhone running the current IOS.

    thank you.

  46. 46.

    FlyingToaster (Tablet)

    October 20, 2021 at 2:06 pm

    Okay, viewing the activity screen at PrivacyPro, the Vidcrunch.com thrashing is noticeably absent.  The only thing I see that is, well, off, would be frequent attempts to load from *.safeframe.googlesyndication.com . * is the usual random string of 20-odd alphanumerics.  Everything else seems to be happy to load when I hit refresh or if I load/reload a page.

    If there are settings for mobile vs. desktop, you may try to forestall ad cycling on “mobile”.  Mind you, the ad servers still know I’m on a tablet; my “view as desktop” only really affects layout.

    Hope this helps…

  47. 47.

    JimV

    October 20, 2021 at 2:09 pm

    I commented before that I have not had the problem, but I didn’t mention that I have Adblock Plus.

    On any site, I would rather contribute via donations than ads. If you need a donation, just let me know.

  48. 48.

    Marshall Eubanks

    October 20, 2021 at 2:16 pm

    Yes, on Ubuntu Linux with Mozilla Firefox for Ubuntu 93.0 (64-bit)

  49. 49.

    Big R

    October 20, 2021 at 2:31 pm

    Never had a problem.

    1) Laptop: Dell Inspiron 1500 (win10 most recent update); Laptop: Lenovo Thinkpad XCarbon (win10 most recent update); Phone: Pixel 3a (Android most recent update)

    2) Laptop 1: Firefox; Laptop 2: Chrome; Phone: Chrome

    3) Laptops use uBlock Origin; Phone does not have ad blocker

    4) Do not use Brave.

  50. 50.

    neabinorb

    October 20, 2021 at 3:13 pm

    iPad mini 4, OS14.8. No problem today. The front page loaded amazingly fast, compared to last week, for example. And no refreshing either on the front page or inside a post.

  51. 51.

    WaterGirl

    October 20, 2021 at 3:17 pm

    @Bill Arnold:

     For some reason my Firefox plugins loadout blocks full preview of tweets (they show as text mode)

    That’s a default setting for Firefox.  I don’t use Firefox, but I believe it’s called a social media setting or something like that.  If you look for it in Firefox preferences, I think you’ll find it based on what I just wrote.

  52. 52.

    WaterGirl

    October 20, 2021 at 3:20 pm

    @Jerzy Russian:

    I can report the reloading problems when reading the COVID thread a few hours ago on my iPhone + Chrome.    I don’t know about now, as I seem to have misplaced the phone.

    Can you please report back on whether the problem is still there, or gone, once you find your phone?

  53. 53.

    Motivated Seller

    October 20, 2021 at 3:21 pm

    It’s not a problem for me now, however once in a while, I get the error, “There was a problem with this page” and then the browser promptly re-loads the page. This happens about once every other week.  Once I run into it, the page could reload multiple times before I move on.

    It happens more on the Coronavirus-update blog posts. (FWIW, the last page I had trouble with was: https://balloon-juice.com/2021/10/16/covid-19-coronavirus-updates-friday-saturday-oct-15-16/).  I believe it is because the page is so heavy with Twitter embeds.

    I use an old tablet with the default browser:
    I use an iPad Air, model A1474
    I run the default Safari browser (I DO NOT use Brave as my browser)
    I do not use an ad blocker

  54. 54.

    WaterGirl

    October 20, 2021 at 3:27 pm

    @brendancalling: But has this happened since I put up this post?  That will tell me what we need to know: whether pulling the video ad resolves this issue or not.

    Can you check back in on this thread and let me know?  thanks.

  55. 55.

    WaterGirl

    October 20, 2021 at 3:27 pm

    @Middlelee: ad blocker?

  56. 56.

    WaterGirl

    October 20, 2021 at 3:28 pm

    @Shantanu Saha: Is the problem still happening today?  Since I put up this post?  That will tell us whether removing the video ad has resolved the issue or not.

    Can you check back in and let us know in the comments of this thread?

  57. 57.

    WaterGirl

    October 20, 2021 at 3:30 pm

    @Anyway: But are you still experience it today?  After 1pm blog time?  Knowing the answer to that will tell us what we need to know – whether the video ad is the cause or not.

    Can you check back in and let me know?

  58. 58.

    eddie blake

    October 20, 2021 at 3:31 pm

    hasn’t crashed today, but as jack palance once said, “day ain’t over yet.”

  59. 59.

    WaterGirl

    October 20, 2021 at 3:31 pm

    @Betty: “This morning” is a little vague, and I don’t know exactly what time the video ad was pulled.

    Can you tell me whether this has occurred since I put up this thread?  Say after 1pm blog time today?

    edit:  I see that you posted again not long after the first comment.

  60. 60.

    WaterGirl

    October 20, 2021 at 3:31 pm

    @Betty: Yes, please hang around and let me know!

  61. 61.

    WaterGirl

    October 20, 2021 at 3:32 pm

    @Ken: Thank you, Ken!

    One down, two to go.  (of the specially requested commenters)

  62. 62.

    PST

    October 20, 2021 at 3:33 pm

    iPad 5th Gen, Chrome, ipados 15.0.2 (the very latest, I believe). I have no ad blockers. I still had the refresh problem this morning on individual pages, but it was pretty early, so it might have been before repairs. Scrolling was also slow, especially on the COVID page. I have never had the problem on a Windows computer. All this makes me pretty much like everyone else.

  63. 63.

    WaterGirl

    October 20, 2021 at 3:34 pm

    @FlyingToaster (Tablet): Thank you!  Two down, one to go, from the specially requested commenters.

  64. 64.

    WaterGirl

    October 20, 2021 at 3:35 pm

    @Marshall Eubanks: I am not sure what your “Yes” response means.  Can you clarify?

    I am looking to know whether you had a problem previously and whether the problem seems to be resolved (or not) after 1 pm blog time.

    Can you check back in and let us know?

  65. 65.

    WaterGirl

    October 20, 2021 at 3:37 pm

    @PST: Can you check back in and let me know whether you have experienced the problem after, say 1pm blog time?

    I don’t know exactly what time they pulled the video ad, but it was definitely pulled by the time I put this post up.

  66. 66.

    Shana

    October 20, 2021 at 3:37 pm

    I have been having problems of late with my iPhone 8 using iOS 14.8 and browsing on Safari. I have not had problems today though. No ad blocker.

  67. 67.

    satby

    October 20, 2021 at 3:49 pm

    Happened twice early this morning and was becoming so constant I just quit reading much. Hasn’t happened since this thread, and I seldom could make it as far as 66 (currently) comments without a reload. The constant background cycling has also stopped. Kindle, latest Silk version.

    Surprised your hosting company never flagged the service degradation.

  68. 68.

    TxTiger

    October 20, 2021 at 4:11 pm

    Did not report last time. I experienced the problem early on a Sunday morning, maybe October 3? Was reading around 4 am on Safari in my iPhone XR running iOS 14.x and screen kept blinking every couple of minutes and clearing. Annoying enough that I quit reading on my phone.

    Not experiencing it now. But I also updated my iOS to 15.0.2 on 10/17 so my report is not completely apples to apples. I don’t run ad blockers but I do have tracking turned off on my iPhone settings, which is a relatively new iPhone feature that could also play poorly with some ad sites.

  69. 69.

    WaterGirl

    October 20, 2021 at 4:12 pm

    @satby: Thanks for the info!  If it returns today, please check back in and let us know.  Otherwise, I will assume that it’s still behaving for you.

  70. 70.

    PST

    October 20, 2021 at 4:13 pm

    @WaterGirl: I have not experienced the problem yet this afternoon, but I have not yet spent more than ten minutes on the iPad yet — not enough to be confident.

  71. 71.

    WaterGirl

    October 20, 2021 at 4:13 pm

    @TxTiger: Thanks for the detailed information!

    Someone in the thread last week mentioned that it stopped when they up upgraded to iOS 15, but that’s just one person.  Glad to have one more piece of data on that.  Not conclusive, but interesting.

  72. 72.

    WaterGirl

    October 20, 2021 at 4:13 pm

    @PST: If you’re able to spend more time on the laptop today, please check back in and confirm that you’re still good or let us know that your luck has run out. :-)

  73. 73.

    nonrev321

    October 20, 2021 at 4:18 pm

    Never had problem.  Dell Laptop XPS 13,  Chrome V. 92.0.4515.107,  AdBlock V. 4.38.0

  74. 74.

    E.

    October 20, 2021 at 4:24 pm

    I gave up accessing this site on my 4-year old apple tablet some time ago. Basically never worked and very frustrating. No problems on linux with firefox ever that I can remember.

  75. 75.

    Scout211

    October 20, 2021 at 4:27 pm

    It was happening often early this morning.  I tried to post a comment and it auto-refreshed using both Chrome and Safari for iPad. It ate my comment both times. I was finally able to post a comment on my Mac.

    Starting late this morning (or early this afternoon blog time) I have had no auto-refreshes on either my iPhone or my iPad (so far, at least).

    iPad Pro, iOS 14.8, Chrome (or Safari sometimes).

    iPhone 8, iOS 14.8, Chrome.

    No adblocker.

    No to Brave.

    On my Mac, I have observed the same thing that some commenters mentioned.  On Chrome, there is a script at the bottom of the balloon-juice page that flashes “waiting for [     ]”  messages that look like ad urls.  I haven’t checked my Mac since the video ad shutdown but there were never any auto-refreshes on my Mac, Mojave, Chrome.

    The fact that I have been composing and editing this comment for several minutes on my iPad and have experienced no auto-refreshing is a welcome improvement.

  76. 76.

    Mousebumples

    October 20, 2021 at 4:28 pm

    Never was a problem for me, but i use Brave Browser on my phone and never see the video ads. ?‍♀️

    Samsung Galaxy S20, FWIW

  77. 77.

    WaterGirl

    October 20, 2021 at 4:34 pm

    @E.: I’m sorry. :-(

  78. 78.

    Neimar

    October 20, 2021 at 4:37 pm

    Never had a problem with refreshing, though tweet-heavy posts on the front page often lag as badly as fast dialup used to. Site loads and scrolls more quickly now after your post.  Samsung galaxy A71 5G running Android 11, Vivaldi browser, all software latest versions. No ad blocker, but have 3rd party cookies and tracking turned off in the browser.

  79. 79.

    WaterGirl

    October 20, 2021 at 4:41 pm

    @Neimar: Do you know if you ever saw the video ad before when it was up?

  80. 80.

    Joy in FL

    October 20, 2021 at 4:42 pm

    It has never been a problem for me. I have a 2013 Macbook pro using OS 10.15.7. I use an up-to-date Chrome browser. My iPhone X and iPad (Air 3rd generation) OS are up-to-date (14.8), and on those I use Safari. I have never had a problem. I don’t have ad blockers on any of those browsers.

  81. 81.

    WaterGirl

    October 20, 2021 at 4:55 pm

    @NorthLeft12: Can you confirm that you had this problem today – after 1pm – when I put this post up?

  82. 82.

    Neimar

    October 20, 2021 at 5:00 pm

    @WaterGirl: 

    No, I never saw the ad. Digging into settings, I notice Vivaldi has both tracking and ads blocked. Sorry for the mix-up.

  83. 83.

    debbie

    October 20, 2021 at 5:23 pm

    It has been a constant problem on my fifth generation mini iPad. So far, it seems to have stopped, but I need to take care of a couple of things and will see how things go again later tonight.

    OS 14.8, Chrome, no ad blocker.

    ETA I saw but ignored that ad.

  84. 84.

    CapnMubbers

    October 20, 2021 at 5:31 pm

    Sixth generation iPad, version 14.6, Firefox private browsing.  When commenting, NOT private browsing and BJ even remembered my nym!

    The site has not refreshed even once today, October 20, private browsing or no.  A welcome change!

  85. 85.

    KSinMA

    October 20, 2021 at 5:47 pm

    I’ve had intermittent refresh problems for a good while (iphone 8, IOS 14.8, Firefox and Chrome, no ad blockers); last had problems with this morning’s Covid/Coronavirus update, but no problem now. I’ve never had a problem on my computer (Windows 10, Firefox, Adblock Plus).

    Thanks for dealing with all of this!

  86. 86.

    SeattleDem

    October 20, 2021 at 5:59 pm

    7 th generation iPad with iOS 14.8 runniNg Safari- the site had become almost unusable from the frequent refreshes, but all the symptoms are gone today

  87. 87.

    Dr. Daniel Price (Saint Vincent)

    October 20, 2021 at 6:00 pm

    Never a problem; Windows 10-based Dell boxes;  no ad blocker; Chrome Version 93.0.4577.82 at the office and perhaps a more-recent version at home.

  88. 88.

    206inKY

    October 20, 2021 at 6:18 pm

    @NorthLeft12: This is exactly what happens to me. Using iPhone 8, latest ios, safari, no ad blocker. Zaps my comments so I keep copying what I’ve written so I can paste and continue after getting zapped. Hasn’t happened today but this is first time I’ve logged on.

  89. 89.

    TheQuietOne

    October 20, 2021 at 6:20 pm

    Silk browser on my Kindle. I would be reading for maybe 5 minutes then the site would drop and Silk would ask if I wanted to reload. It seems to have been going on ABOUT a week. No problems with this today! No ad blocker that I’m aware of. Thanks

  90. 90.

    worn

    October 20, 2021 at 6:24 pm

    Watergirl – here’s another data point, whether useful or not. While here in England, I have been accessing the site with 2 devices:

    1) iPhone 7 Plus w/ IOS 13.6, Safari (not sure where to find the version #), no adblockers

    2) Nexus 7 tablet w/ Android 6.0.1, Chrome 88.4324.181, no adblockers

    On neither of these devices has the automatic refresh bug manifested itself during the time period in question. But I am also pretty sure that the video ad that everyone keeps referencing has not been showing up on either one.*

    Video ads are truly terrible from an end user experience perspective (in addition to the problem others have noted more than once that these fuckers essentially steal reader’s data, which is IMHO a bit abusive for those with fixed monthly data allotments). But I am sure you already know this.

    My kvetching aside, many thanks for all you do / have done to keep this site operational. I’m sure it is a thankless task on occasions such as this.

    *pretty sure I’d have noticed it, like that wretched Jesse Ventura ad from a while back…

  91. 91.

    Jerzy Russian

    October 20, 2021 at 6:32 pm

    @WaterGirl:   Sorry for the delay.  I actually had to do some actual work while at work (a shock to the system to be sure).  I went back to the COVID thread on the phone, and so far, everything seems fine.    Navigating to adjacent threads via the arrows on top give smooth loads.

  92. 92.

    lurker

    October 20, 2021 at 6:33 pm

    was an issue on main page and even more on posts when opened as their own page (I do not do the expand post thing). Has not been a problem since you announced the video ad was turned off.

    Safari, recent macOS (think there is a more minor update pending), no adblocker that I recall.

  93. 93.

    There go two miscreants

    October 20, 2021 at 6:37 pm

    I never experienced an actual refresh; the worst that I saw was an occasional freeze when scrolling down the page (generally within the post and comments, I don’t use the main page much). This behaviour has gone away and everything is smooth.

    Win 10 Home 64bit, Firefox 93.0 64bit, I use a big hosts file to block ads and other stuff, no adblocker addon though.

  94. 94.

    Rob

    October 20, 2021 at 6:50 pm

    Never has been a problem
    MacBook Pro 2019
    macOS Catalina
    Firefox, always updated with each update
    AdBlock Plus and uBlock Origin

    I lurk mostly, maybe that’s my secret? ;-)

  95. 95.

    LivinginExile

    October 20, 2021 at 7:01 pm

    Like Satby, it was so bad this morning I had to give up.  Tried again this evening and so far things are fine after about an hour total spent on BJ. Kindle with Silk browser.

  96. 96.

    dkinPa

    October 20, 2021 at 7:02 pm

    Had problems with the page suddenly jumping and landing in a new place over the past week.  Haven’t had any problems this afternoon.  Using an iPad (7th generation), software version 14.8, Safari.  Not running any ad blockers.  I ignore ads (or try to, anyway!).  Thanks, Watergirl!

  97. 97.

    PhaedrusOnBass

    October 20, 2021 at 7:03 pm

    First, I truly appreciate the work you have done so far, and the concern you and John have. Most people in your position wouldn’t give a rip. You aren’t most people.

    iPad 6th gen, iPad OS 14.8, Safari, Ad Block Pro.

    I have been quite stable since loading Ad Block. I had to restart once while browsing Flipboard. I’m convinced that there’s sloppy memory cleanup in Safari that’s causing this, but that’s something you have no control over. I’m a happy camper these days.

    Try not to yell at John too often. After all, he must deal with Steve on a daily basis.

  98. 98.

    206inKY

    October 20, 2021 at 7:03 pm

    @206inKY: Have used site for an hour now and no problems at all.

  99. 99.

    Percysowner

    October 20, 2021 at 7:11 pm

    Never had resetting problem. Macbook Air Mojave. Firefox latest update. UBlock Origin, Adblocker Ultimate

  100. 100.

    debbie

    October 20, 2021 at 7:16 pm

    Wrong thread.

  101. 101.

    Tony Gerace

    October 20, 2021 at 7:29 pm

    Greetings!  I have NOT been experiencing this problem.  I am using a Chromebook that I purchased about 18 months ago.  (I actually don’t know how to find out what version of Chrome I use.)  I hope that this information helps.

  102. 102.

    Platonicspoof

    October 20, 2021 at 7:30 pm

    If you say it’s not a problem for you now, and it never was, please share information about your device,

     

    Lenovo Desktop A340.
    System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor.

    Windows 10 Home, Version 20H2.

    1000/1000 (Mbps) connection.

    I’ve never had the refresh problem and have never had problems with any comment features or the website loading, nor have I had comments disappear

    Edits: I haven’t added any ad blocker apps.

    Browser is MS Edge.

  103. 103.

    debbie

    October 20, 2021 at 7:35 pm

    @Tony Gerace:

    Click on the three dots at the upper right corner, select “Settings,” then select “About Chrome.”

  104. 104.

    Jackie

    October 20, 2021 at 7:38 pm

    It was refreshing like crazy this morning, but not once since you temporarily manipulated it! Here’s hoping…????
    iPhone 6, Safari.

  105. 105.

    Booski

    October 20, 2021 at 8:08 pm

    I have never had a problem I use Google Chrome on a Dell desktop with Adblocker. BJ has always loaded slowly for me but I’m pretty sure it’s the ad blocker

  106. 106.

    Han

    October 20, 2021 at 9:49 pm

    iPad OS 14.8, Chrome, no ad blocker, no Brave. Was a big problem. Now everything seems to be working fine.

  107. 107.

    smike

    October 21, 2021 at 12:10 am

    I’m on a Windows 10 laptop and I use Adblock Plus. I also browse in the ‘Private Window’ mode.
    When putting my laptop to sleep at night I disconnect from the internet and leave a few tabs open. One tab is from the previous ‘late night’ BJ offering, and I leave it to display the last comment I read. Upon occasion, when I got back to the previous nights’ last comment and refreshed to finish the thread the site would refresh and leave me back at the start of the entry (I learned to note the comment number of the last one I read).
    This has not happened in the last two or three days. I had not previously commented on this because it seemed outside of the realm of platforms you were/are investigating.

  108. 108.

    StringOnAStick

    October 21, 2021 at 12:12 am

    Kindle fire running the Silk browser; whatever you did solved it.  I was getting the “reload” page several if not more times per post, and it hasn’t happened yet tonight.  I had gotten to the point where I tried to keep a running observation of the comment number so I could find where I was after the inevitable reloads.

  109. 109.

    NorthLeft12

    October 21, 2021 at 7:50 am

    Early Thursday morning. I have been on the site for over thirty minutes without having the page auto-refresh.

    SUCCESS!

  110. 110.

    xjmuellerlurks

    October 21, 2021 at 8:53 am

    This has never been a problem for me. I am a daily reader. No ad blockers loaded. I use two devices:

    Asus chromebook – google chrome os 93.0.4577.95 – chrome browser

    Samsung galaxy a50 – Android 11 – kernal 4.14.113 – chrome browser

  111. 111.

    Jackie

    October 21, 2021 at 10:42 am

    Read the entire morning Covid thread and no auto refresh issues! A miracle!!!

  112. 112.

    lifeinthebonusround

    October 21, 2021 at 11:28 am

    Never experienced a problem with the refresh issues, on either device I regularly use to read BJ.

    PC: Win 10, build 19043.1288; Google Chrome, Version 95.0.4638.54; AdBlock Plus

    iPhone XR: iOS 15.0.1; Safari, AdBlock Pro

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