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Yes, the Realists(tm) will point out that MTG’s seat is so gerrymandered that she could strip naked and skull-f*ck a puppy live on Fox News, and she’d still win reelection. But I may send Mr. Flowers a small donation, just for making me happy!

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    Marcus Flowers would be quite an upgrade for that district.

    Is there a award for Comeback District of the Year?

  2. 2.

    Chief Oshkosh

    Hell, MTG could get donations and votes just based on declaring that she bit Max’s leg off and ate it raw.
    …And who’s to say that that’s not what happened?

  3. 3.

    RaflW

    I’d be interested in seeing if there could be coattail effects with Flowers’ campaign. MTGs district maybe baldly gerrymandered, but we need to win the Senate race to retain Warnock. If Marcus can boost turnout for otherwise dispirited Georgians in that House race, it could provide the margin needed statewide.

    And making MTG have to face a well funded, smart, appealing black guy just seems like good sporting fun.

  5. 5.

    Joe Falco

    The other Democrat that will be running in the primary is Holly McCormack. Both would be a much improved upgrade to current carpetbagger in office.

  6. 6.

    Lacuna Synecdoche

    Anne Laurie @ Top:

    Yes, the Realists(tm) will point out that MTG’s seat is so gerrymandered that she could strip naked and skull-f*ck a puppy live on Fox News, and she’d still win reelection.

    To be fair, stripping naked and skull-fucking a puppy live on TV would probably increase MTG’s favorability with the Fox News demographic.

    What would really kill MTG’s election chances is if she went on Fox News and said, “I agree with AOC …”

  7. 7.

    Ken

    @Baud: Marcus Flowers would be quite an upgrade for that district.

    Nina Flowers would be quite an upgrade for that district.

    Hell, a bunch of dead flowers retrieved from the dumpster behind the local florist would be an upgrade.

  9. 9.

    Geminid

    The Georgia 14th District is heavily Republican, but not because it is gerrymandered. It’s a corner district, with it’s northern border the Tennessee state line and it’s western border the Alabama line. That part of Georgia happens to be full of white Republicans. Since the 14th was created in 2011, no Democratic candidate has done better than a 25% loss.

    Gerrymandering next year may make the 14th somewhat less Republican, since Georgia Republicans will try to trade Democrats in Lucy McBath’s 6th District for Republicans. Greene originally declared for the 6th District last year. Then local Republicans persuaded her to run in the 14th, whose Congressman was retiring. Flowers will still have a steep hill to climb, but he is an attractive candidate who can make Greene look like the fool she is.

  11. 11.

    James E Powell

    @RaflW:

    I’d be interested in seeing if there could be coattail effects with Flowers’ campaign. MTGs district maybe baldly gerrymandered, but we need to win the Senate race to retain Warnock. If Marcus can boost turnout for otherwise dispirited Georgians in that House race, it could provide the margin needed statewide.

    Great point. This is a factor we all need to be alert to. We are going to need massive turnouts for the next six or seven election cycles.

  14. 14.

    JPL

    Unless during redistricting the lines are changed, Greene is safe.    A high school in her district allowed a student to parade on school property with a confederate flag, and when black students wanted to protest they were expelled.

    If you have unlimited funds fine, but if not send it to McBath or Bourdeaux.  I never thought my district would flip, but my district is made up of college educated, higher income people.   Greene lives in my district and they convinced her to run in the district north of me.   They knew then she had problems

     

    or what Geminid said at nine.

  15. 15.

    RevRick

    We have vulnerable Democrats that need to be defended first. Too many Democrats make what I call “favorite Republicans to hate” donations. Before we go throwing away money supporting the futile opponents of MTG or Rand Paul or such ilk, consider sending your precious resources to the seats we need to hold or the reasonable opportunities we may have to win.
    In the Senate, our vulnerable Democrats are Kelly in Arizona, Warnock in Georgia, Castro in Nevada, and Hassan in New Hampshire. Our best opportunities are the open GOP seats in North Carolina and Pennsylvania, and ousting Senator evildumb in Wisconsin. And there are probably twenty Democrats in House swing districts who could use our support.
    We set fire to millions of dollars in the futile effort of Amy McGrath against Mitch McConnell. And Jaime Harrison against Lindsey Graham. Let’s not repeat that mistake.

  16. 16.

    WaterGirl

    @RevRick: Good points.  But 5 or 10 bucks – if you have plenty more to give – is a good idea because it encourages people to run even in red places.  Make them defend every single fucking seat!

    I thought Castro was in TX – who is Castro in NV?

  17. 17.

    Earl

    @RevRick: Not to mention all the money AOC wastes (on facebook, no less) in one of the safest seats in the country.

    Can we please prioritize winnable seats instead of grifters cosplaying politician in Trump +48 (FORTY EIGHT) districts?  Georgia’s 14 ain’t voting for a Dem.

  18. 18.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @JPL:

    Unless during redistricting the lines are changed, Greene is safe.    A high school in her district allowed a student to parade on school property with a confederate flag, and when black students wanted to protest they were expelled

    The families of those students should sue the school district. Isn’t that a violation of the student’s first amendment rights? I’d have to imagine them letting the student with a confederate flag parading around on school grounds is racially motivated too

  19. 19.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @WaterGirl: maybe the Reverend meant Catherine Cortez Masto?

    @RevRick: We set fire to millions of dollars in the futile effort of Amy McGrath against Mitch McConnell. And Jaime Harrison against Lindsey Graham. Let’s not repeat that mistake.

    Yup. I gave money to Harrison in the hopes he would have the kind of down-ticket coattails O’Rourke showed in TX, which didn’t come to pass. The polls suggested a lot more Dem strength than the actual votes did. I don’t regret it

  20. 20.

    Geminid

    @WaterGirl: The comenter probably meant Senator Cortez-Masto of Nevada

    Ohio’s is also a winnable open Senate. If Sherrod Brown could win Ohio by 300,000 votes in 2018, Tim Ryan can win by 30,000 next year.

  21. 21.

    eddie blake

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: i have my doubts about graham’s come-from-behind victory.

    he picked up the phone to flex on the SoS of GEORGIA to find more votes for derp furor. you think that was the FIRST time he’d ever done that? you gonna tell me he didn’t pull that shit in his OWN state?

  22. 22.

    Another Scott

    @RevRick: +1

    We should run people everywhere – lightning does strike – but we have to be realistic.

    BobbyBigWheel /GiveSmart is a good read for places where even small contributions can have a real impact.

    The GOP is trying to steal elections through state houses. In November they want to flip Virginia’s. These candidates could block them from doing so, and need early money. You can make the biggest impact in state legislative races. If you give, Give Smart t.co/vYJ9OktK8F

    — Spoooooooky Donate to Give Smart (@BobbyBigWheel) June 17, 2021

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  23. 23.

    Ksmiami

    My money is going to: Mark Kelly, Reverend Warnock, Catherine Cortez Mastro, Tim Ryan, Maggie Hassan, Pennsylvania (whomever wins) , Stabenow, the WI challenger and a number of good house Dems. Hopefully we get a good challenger in NC. I don’t just want to win, I want to destroy the Republicans and Sinema and Manchin.

  24. 24.

    Geminid

    @Another Scott: Also, Greene’s craziness rubs off some on Republicans generally. Flowers can push and press Greene in a way she wouldn’t be with nominal opposition. It won’t be a question of if she says something stupid, but how often.

    I noticed that The New Republic had a whole article shading Flowers’ status as a vet. It may be that someone there likes the other Democrat mentioned above by Mr. Falco, Holly McCormac. It seemed, though, like the author was grinding a “enough already with these ex-military candidates” axe But I think an outspoken, Black ex-soldier is the right kind of candidate to run against Greene. The cowboy hat is a nice touch, too.

    I am not too worried about diverting money to Flowers. As has been pointed out, getting out votes for Flowers is also getting out votes for Abrams and Warnock. Very, very few people are splitting tickets these days. The exception of Maine last year tended to prove the rule. Although Randy Wittman did win the Virginia 1st Congressional District last year, even though Joe Biden carried it. And Biden won an electoral vote in a Nebraska district carried by the Republican Congressional candidate. I expect that District will be a prime target for Democrats next year.

  25. 25.

    Geminid

    @Ksmiami: It sounds like there is at least one good Senate candidate in North Carolina, former Judge Cheri Beasley. Another commenter reminded me the other day that Biden and Cunningham both lost  North Carolina by less than 80,000 votes. The Republicans will have a hard fought nomination race between former Governor Pat McCrory and a trump-endorsed Congressman. It could end up being very divisive.

  28. 28.

    RevRick

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yup, I did. I also gave to Harrison. And Gideon in Maine. *sigh*

    I just think, given the historical pattern of midterms, wasting money on races in deep red territory is not helpful to our cause.

  30. 30.

    Geminid

    @Ksmiami: Well, Colorado does make for a symmetrical division of ten races into Colorado, Nevada, New Hampshire, Georgia and Arizona as Democratic must-holds and Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, North Carolina and Florida as five pickup opportunities.

  31. 31.

    VOR

    @Geminid:   Also, Greene’s craziness rubs off some on Republicans generally. Flowers can push and press Greene in a way she wouldn’t be with nominal opposition. It won’t be a question of if she says something stupid, but how often.

    Agreed. Dems need to turn the 2022 (and 2024) elections into a referendum on Trumpism and Republican extremism. Don’t let them play moderate for the general election, tie them all to the craziest and flakiest of the GQP – MTG, Gaetz, Boebert, Gym Jordan,  and most of all TFG. Make them defend that.

  34. 34.

    Obdurodon

    Somebody said “open thread” and I just have to put this somewhere, so I’ll say it:

    A “win in the seventh [or later] overtime” is a tie. NCAA football needs to get over the weird  American aversion to the concept.

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