This is very good. https://t.co/pVhxOI5J7t
— Cheryl Rofer (@CherylRofer) November 13, 2021
No… kidding, Sherlock:
People are most aggressively seeking vaccine boosters in the states currently experiencing covid-19 surges with @FenitN @katemshepherd https://t.co/DHcBa2EOAT
— D Keating (@dtkeating) November 11, 2021
… The rate at which fully vaccinated residents are getting the shots is highest in the states that also have high rates of new coronavirus cases, including Alaska, North Dakota and Montana, according to a review of state data by The Washington Post. In swaths of the country where health officials will not impose mask and vaccine mandates to curb the virus’s spread, or have had their powers stripped away by Republican state lawmakers or governors, boosters are one of the few shields left for those worried about contracting and spreading the virus.
“It’s really become impossible for local public health authorities to implement any sort of social distancing measures that could help slow down the spread,” said Matt Kelley, CEO of the Montana Public Health Institute. “Getting that booster shot is one of the few tangible things that you can do to protect yourself.”…
Biden administration officials have hailed a recent uptick in daily vaccinations, which is fueled almost entirely by boosters and newly eligible children.
About 5.5 million people received boosters last week, accounting for 59 percent of shots into arms and double the number of those receiving their first doses. A majority of boosters went to people aged 65 and up. Virtually all of the first doses went to children, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention…
Just in time for the winter respiratory virus season: A U.S. Appeals Court halts the Biden administration’s Covid vaccination requirement, delivering a major policy blow. The decision arrives amid reports of 70k-75k new U.S. coronavirus cases daily https://t.co/qsUDpQC0LK
— delthia ricks ? (@DelthiaRicks) November 13, 2021
A federal court has declined to lift its stay on the Biden administration's vaccine mandate for businesses with 100 or more workers. At least 27 states have filed legal challenges to the rule in at least six federal appeals courts. https://t.co/3z9mQdTtoI
— The Associated Press (@AP) November 13, 2021
New documents show Trump Admin silenced CDC at start of pandemic, tried to alter expert scientific reports, and then tried to delete evidence they were doing so.
We were the most prepared nation in the world but now more than 750,000 Americans have died. https://t.co/6OOMMy78Wn
— Ian Bassin (@ianbassin) November 13, 2021
U.S. should require COVID-19 vaccine or negative test for domestic air travelers, lawmakers say https://t.co/X8QYUC2lam pic.twitter.com/S5qA08T0kz
— Reuters (@Reuters) November 13, 2021
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One of the lessons low- and middle-income countries may have learned too well during the #Covid pandemic: We aren't all in this together. https://t.co/wZZt2bGcZC
— Helen Branswell (@HelenBranswell) November 12, 2021
Striking number: #Covid vaccine "have" countries are administering 6 times as many boosters a day at this point than vaccine "have not" countries are giving first doses.
Source: @WHO pic.twitter.com/6EV2Ymxlw5— Helen Branswell (@HelenBranswell) November 12, 2021
The Winter Games proper don’t begin till February…
Two foreign athletes test positive for COVID-19 in run-up to Beijing Winter Olympics https://t.co/Md9RhR8S3h pic.twitter.com/I8BJ3au35a
— Reuters (@Reuters) November 12, 2021
Russia reports record daily COVID-19 deaths https://t.co/K32weBsJsX pic.twitter.com/nzq5n3g9LN
— Reuters (@Reuters) November 13, 2021
Russia on Saturday reported a new record one-day death toll of 1,241 from COVID-19 as well as 39,256 new coronavirus cases in the last 24 hours.
Most of Russia’s 80-plus regions lifted a week-long workplace shutdown at the beginning of the week that was designed to curb a surge in case numbers.
Russia will introduce health passes across the country in a radical move designed to boost Russia's sluggish vaccination campaignhttps://t.co/vnW1fayiaa
— The Moscow Times (@MoscowTimes) November 12, 2021
As coronavirus cases surge, more European countries are considering lockdowns https://t.co/c6B9EQuWKB
— delthia ricks ? (@DelthiaRicks) November 13, 2021
Merkel urges unvaccinated to reconsider as 7-day COVID incidence rate hits record https://t.co/rmi364v4xd pic.twitter.com/zFZI66gqbs
— Reuters (@Reuters) November 13, 2021
Caretaker Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte announced a three-week partial lockdown amid surging COVID-19 cases in the Netherlands. The lockdown that begins Saturday night is the first to start in Western Europe since a new wave of infections started. https://t.co/ztLBMT6Bhk
— The Associated Press (@AP) November 12, 2021
UK bucking trend of rising Covid cases in Europe https://t.co/fHIPaG3U1c
— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) November 12, 2021
Vaccines are finally arriving in Africa—but the rollout will be a challenge
A new analysis looks at vaccine distribution capacity across the regionhttps://t.co/PDewmPaCF2— Global Health Observ (@GlobalPHObserv) November 12, 2021
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Non-White race tied to higher risk for COVID infection, severity
Black, Hispanic, and Asian people are at higher risk for #COVID19 infection and an ICU stay but not deaths, a large study findshttps://t.co/DFPx2aMvin pic.twitter.com/UZsCM6tPm5
— CIDRAP (@CIDRAP) November 12, 2021
Resistance: Evidence is now here that the coronavirus has developed a mutation allowing it to thwart Remdesivir, the Gilead antiviral that has been used to treat Covid patients. Resistant viruses were isolated from an immune-compromised patient. https://t.co/7vdctiMZpl
— delthia ricks ? (@DelthiaRicks) November 12, 2021
Misleading claims are spreading online about a change in Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine formula. The addition of tromethamine, a commonly used pharmaceutical ingredient, allows the shots to be stored longer, and trials found that its use in the vaccine is safe. https://t.co/S6aYvq7d64
— AP Fact Check (@APFactCheck) November 12, 2021
Chinese & Aussie chemists say current #SARSCoV2 variants, "have already covered almost all possible detrimental mutations that could result in an increase of transmissibility…"
Hope they're right — would hate to see a super-spreading new strain emerge.https://t.co/UaDmHtXCxL— Laurie Garrett (@Laurie_Garrett) November 12, 2021
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California is among three states now allowing coronavirus booster shots for all adults. The move comes even though federal health officials recommend limiting doses to those over 65 and younger people with certain underlying health conditions. https://t.co/g1Mi7DTKX0
— The Associated Press (@AP) November 13, 2021
Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee has signed a sweeping coronavirus bill that largely forbids vaccine requirements and mask mandates. Lawmakers passed this thing after 1 a.m. in the morning. Lee signed it at 4:30 p.m. on a Friday. https://t.co/vfsz2Q92nh
— Brett Kelman (@BrettKelman) November 12, 2021
On podcasts and radio there's a lot of misleading chatter about Covid — lies that go unchecked. False statements about vaccines spread like wild fire even as some anti-vaxxer hosts — like Marc Bernier — die of Covid complications https://t.co/S4QfcKfY7H
— delthia ricks ? (@DelthiaRicks) November 12, 2021
It’s seldom just vaxx-denialism:
He wasn’t silent though. He was shouting “Keep Britain White!”, the far-right National Front slogan, at concerts in the 70s. It was his xenophobia that sparked the Rick Against Racism movement. https://t.co/1vqpGALEto
— Idrees Ahmad (@im_PULSE) November 12, 2021
Look who's taking over the #antivaxxers movement in America.
"Fuentes is a leader of the Groyper movement, a youth white nationalist collective w/ties to far-right elected officials like Rep. #PaulGosar. Fuentes is also on an anti-#vaccine speaking tour"https://t.co/Dw9ICaizSr— Laurie Garrett (@Laurie_Garrett) November 12, 2021
hate to see this fracture in the rationalist community between the rationalists who believe in race science and vaccines and the rationalists who believe in race science but not vaccines ?? pic.twitter.com/DdaKfjKOeS
— evo psych googling (@evopsychgoogle) November 10, 2021
NeenerNeener
Monroe County, NY:
The Monroe County website says 442 new cases; the NYSDOH says 500 new cases.
We didn’t hit this level of cases last year until after Thanksgiving week.
NotMax
Germany becomes the 12th country to report more than 5,000,000 cases in total so far.
Locally,
YY_Sima Qian
On 11/12 China reported 57 new domestic confirmed (32 previously asymptomatic) & 18 new domestic asymptomatic cases.
Inner Mongolia “Autonomous” Region reported 4 new domestic confirmed cases (4 previously asymptomatic). 10 domestic confirmed cases recovered. There currently are 26 active domestic confirmed cases in the region.
At Xi’an in Shaanxi Province 1 domestic confirmed case recovered. There currently are 9 active domestic confirmed cases in the city.
Ningxia “Autonomous” Region did not report any new domestic positive cases. 3 domestic confirmed cases recovered. There currently are 31 active domestic confirmed cases in the region.
Gansu Province did not report any new domestic positive cases. 2 domestic confirmed cases recovered. There currently are 101 active domestic confirmed & 1 active domestic asymptomatic cases in the province.
Hebei Province reported 4 new domestic confirmed cases. 6 domestic confirmed cases recovered. There currently are 118 active confirmed & 3 active domestic asymptomatic cases in the province.
At Hunan Province there currently are 4 active domestic confirmed (at Changsha) & 1 active domestic asymptomatic (at Zhuzhou) cases remaining in the province.
At Zunyi in Guizhou Province there currently are 3 active domestic confirmed cases (2 moderate & 1 serious) remaining in the city. 2 residential compounds remain at Medium Risk.
Jilin City in Jilin Province did not report any new domestic positive cases. There currently are 1 active domestic & 1 active domestic asymptomatic cases remaining.
Beijing Municipality reported 1 new domestic confirmed case, a traced close contact. As Beijing is not publishing whether recovered cases are domestic or imported, I cannot track the number of active cases. 2 communities & 1 residential compound are currently at Medium Risk.
At Rizhao in Shandong Province 1 domestic confirmed case recovered. There currently are 13 active domestic confirmed & 6 active domestic asymptomatic cases in the city. 1 residential compound is currently at Medium Risk.
Sichuan Province reported 1 new domestic confirmed case. There currently are 26 active domestic confirmed cases in the province.
Chongqing Municipality reported 1 new domestic asymptomatic case, a traced close contact already under centralized quarantine since 11/2. There currently are 7 active domestic confirmed & 4 active domestic asymptomatic cases remaining. 2 residential compounds & 1 office building are currently at Medium Risk.
At Changzhou in Jiangsu Province there currently are 3 active domestic confirmed cases remaining. 3 residential compounds are currently at Medium Risk.
At Xining in Qinghai Province there currently is 11 active domestic confirmed case remaining.
Heilongjiang Province reported 2 new domestic confirmed cases. 3 domestic confirmed cases recovered. There currently are 257 active domestic confirmed & 2 active domestic asymptomatic cases in the province.
Shangrao in Jiangxi Province reported 3 new domestic confirmed (all moderate) & 13 new domestic asymptomatic cases, 9 are traced close contacts already under centralized quarantine & 7 from mass screening in locked down areas. 2 domestic confirmed case recovered & 2 domestic asymptomatic cases were released from isolation. There currently are 14 active domestic confirmed & 42 active domestic asymptomatic cases in the city. 1 township & 2 residential compounds are currently Medium Risk.
At Zhejiang Province there currently are 1 active domestic confirmed (at Jiaxing) & 1 active domestic asymptomatic (at Hangzhou) cases remaining.
Henan Province reported 1 new domestic confirmed & 1 new domestic asymptomatic cases. There currently are 71 active domestic confirmed & 2 active domestic asymptomatic cases in the province.
Dalian in Liaoning Province reported 40 new domestic confirmed (29 previously asymptomatic, 30 mild & 10 moderate) & 3 new domestic asymptomatic cases, 13 of the 14 new domestic positive cases are traced close contacts already under centralized quarantine since 11/10-11, & the 14th was found via voluntary screening. There currently are 175 active domestic confirmed & 54 active domestic asymptomatic cases in the city. 1 community was elevated to High Risk. 2 residential buildings & 1 residential compound were elevated to Medium Risk. 2 community, 8 residential compounds, 10 residential buildings & 7 villages are currently at Medium Risk.
Dehong Prefecture in Yunnan Province reported 1 new domestic confirmed case (at Mangshi via screening of border villagers under movement restrictions). 3 domestic asymptomatic cases were released from isolation. There currently are 24 active domestic confirmed & 31 active domestic asymptomatic cases at the prefecture. 2 zones & 2 villages at Ruili are currently at Medium Risk.
Imported Cases
On 11/12, China reported 18 new imported confirmed cases (1 previously asymptomatic), 16 imported asymptomatic cases, 1 imported suspect case:
Overall in China, 46 confirmed cases recovered (18 imported), 16 asymptomatic cases were released from isolation (13 imported) & 33 were reclassified as confirmed cases (1 imported), & 2,858 individuals were released from quarantine. Currently, there are 1,309 active confirmed cases in the country (377 imported), 21 in serious condition (2 imported), 518 active asymptomatic cases (359 imported), 2 suspect case (both imported). 49,309 traced contacts are currently under centralized quarantine.
As of 11/12, 2,372.713M vaccine doses have been injected in Mainland China, an increase of 8.681M doses in the past 24 hrs.
On 11/13, Hong Kong reported 2 new positive cases, both imported (1 each from Thailand & the UK).
New Deal democrat
91-Divoc has successfully updated through Thursday, although many States in the South and West only show data through Wednesday.
Nationwide deaths are flat at roughly 1100/day. Cases have increased several thousand since their bottom 2 weeks ago.
Both the Northeast and Midwest Census regions have increases of 25% in the past 2 weeks. The West is flat, while the South has continued to decline.
In the Northeast, only NJ and CT do not show uptrends. Heavily vaccinated VT is the worst, at over 50 cases per 100,000/day. Similarly, every State in the Midwest is in an uptrend with the exception of ND (which had the worst outbreak in the region in the past 45 days). In the West, only AK, MT, and ID show continued downtrends, while AZ, CO, and NM remain in uptrends. In the South, AR, KY, TN, now have uptrends, while GA, LA, OK, and SC remain in a downtrend.
That VT is so bad, while FL now has fewer cases than any other State shows both the impact of climate (in terms of indoor and outdoor activity), as well as the potency of Delta in eventually finding and burning through the dry tinder.
Betty
Regarding the question of “all of us being in this together”, my experience has been that that is true in all disasters. All may be initially affected, but the well off are in a much better position to recover more quickly.
YY_Sima Qian
@New Deal democrat:
Well, that makes me feel slightly better about my mom visiting friends in Tampa in the coming weeks. It will be 2 weeks after her Moderna booster when she travels, so her protection should be at peak level. However, she does suffer from hypertension, one of the medical conditions that translate to worse outcomes.
She will be returning to Update NY after Thanksgiving. I would have preferred that she return before the holidays.
Amir Khalid
Malaysia’s Ministry of Health reports 5,809 new Covid-19 cases today in its media statement, for a cumulative reported total of 2,541,147 cases. It also reports 41 deaths as of midnight, for an adjusted cumulative total of 29,576 deaths – 1.16% of the cumulative reported total, 1.19% of resolved cases.
Based on cases reported yesterday, Malaysia’s nationwide Rt is at 1.04.
484 confirmed cases are in ICU, 193 of them on ventilators. Meanwhile, 4,712 more patients have recovered, for a cumulative total of 2,446,197 patients recovered – 96.26% of the cumulative reported total.
Three new clusters were reported today, for a cumulative total of 5,840 clusters. 278 clusters are currently active; 5,562 clusters are now inactive.
5,782 new cases today are local infections. 27 new cases today are imported.
The National Covid-19 Immunisation Programme (PICK) administered 114,704 doses of vaccine on 12th November: 7,388 first doses, 33,258 second doses, and 74,058 booster doses. As of midnight, the cumulative total is 51,077,813 doses administered: 25,587,520 first doses, 24,773,921 second doses, and 900,201 booster doses. 78.4% of the population have received their first dose, while 75.9% are now fully vaccinated.
New Deal democrat
I should begin by saying that I am not sure that OSHA’s mandate can extend to vaccinations, which have traditionally been thought as being a State power. But the 5th Circuit panel ruling issuing an injunction against the OSHA vaccine mandate is awful – and I don’t just mean the outcome. It reads, as this thread shows, straight out of a Facebook comments section:
https://mobile.twitter.com/The_Law_Boy/status/1459343070907019265
A few selections from the critiques:
“The panel says “occupational safety administrations do not make health policy,” by omitting “health” from the Occupational Safety and Health Administration’s name.”
“they sarcastically put scare quotes around “emergency” when referencing the danger posed by COVID in the opinion.”
“they *still* insist upon the foundational notion that COVID-19 isn’t really a problem or emergency or something that’d raise a public health interest.”
p.a.
@New Deal democrat: Should we adjust DeathSantis’ Florida numbers, say, like we do Putin’s Russia?
NotMax
@New Deal democrat
Fifth Circuit is a retrograde chamber, historically having the dubious distinction of far and away the most decisions overturned of any Circuit Court.
Baud
@New Deal democrat:
Next week, all the cases will be consolidated in a single circuit chosen by lottery, which hopefully won’t be the Fifth.
rikyrah
@NotMax:
We have to expand and rid ourselves of the 5th Circuit and its.influence
germy
The only news coming out of Florida that I believe is Betty Cracker’s
zeecube
A Cheryl sighting!
New Deal democrat
@p.a.:
We know that FL doesn’t count tourists and snowbirds in its infections data, preferring to get them infected and then let them return to their home States and get counted there. But I think the *trend* is reliable. Also, so many people got sick there that there may be few people particularly susceptible to Delta left there.
For the record: if FL’s numbers stay low, I’ll consider visiting there this winter vs. PR.
New Deal democrat
@Baud:
I read one legal wag’s comment that the silver lining is, the 5th’s ruling is so off the wall that they are making it difficult for even the conservative Supremes not to reverse.
JMG
Had our pre-return to the States covid tests in Bordeaux yesterday (we fly out Monday am). Tests were at a small pop-up clinic right by the river Garonne. Tests done at about 11 am, and by 7 pm we received our negative results by text. Very efficient.
dr. bloor
I’m going to take a fistful of gummies tonight and watch that video Rofer posted on an endless loop.
Kalakal
Clapton is such a hot mess. A couple of years ago I heard an interview. with him about Brexit ( he thinks it’s a bloody stupid idea ) where he showed a great deal of perception and insight as to the thinking of people of his age and background and why they were vulnerable to the bullshit from the Brexiteers . Then he comes up with this anti vax crap
I get that he’s been messed up since forever, illegitimate, grew up thinking his mother was his sister until he was 9 shortly after which she emigrated to Canada with his younger half siblings leaving him behind. I loved his stuff up till the early 70s, he really was brilliant but he’s been mostly boring ever since exept when pushed live.
Drugs and drink led to an almost complete character disintegration by the mid 70s, 2 bottles of brandy a day,floor mics so he could perform while collapsed on stage etc.
The weirdest thing about the racist outbursts is that he genuinely worships black blues musicians
and more than any of his friends & contemporaries cough Jimmy Page cough was scrupulous about giving them credit and hence royalties. That Brexit interview made me think he’d finally grown up, his response to Covid dashed that.
NotMax
@dr. bloor
Was not aware Clint Eastwood appeared in any direct to video films.
:)
OzarkHillbilly
If COVID is the deciding point, opt for Puerto Rico. Read yesterday that they are doing better with COVID than any of the states.
mrmoshpotato
@germy:
You got some beef going on with Adam? :)
Scout211
From the AP article, California has changed the policy to allow anyone over 18 and 6 months past their second shot to get the booster. But the state sign-up site has not changed its intake form yet. So if you are trying to sign up right now and are still are ineligible on My Turn, you still need to fudge on the question that asks if your job brings you in contact with the public. Hopefully, that will be changed soon on the My Turn site. AP link.
mrmoshpotato
Take notes and report back.
Ken
That’s why they call it “techno-porn”.
lowtechcyclist
@NotMax:
Soon to be followed by For a Few Gummies More and The Good, the Bad, and the Chewy.
Soapdish
What are the number comparisons between vaxxed and unvaxxed dying and being hospitalized in states like NH and VT? Because I’m frankly through caring about what happens to the willfully unvaxxed. I avoid them when I can and wear a mask when I can’t, but as the poorer countries have been reminded, assholes are gonna asshole and we are *not* all in this together. One hopes leaders will do the right thing but as the red states have shown you can’t trust Republicans to prioritize public health and safety so you’ve got to do it yourself.
Does VT have a 75% vaccination rate but 48 out those 50 people per 100k testing positive are unvaccinated? Those odds look pretty strongly in favor of vaccination! As for the willfully unvaxxed; fuck ‘em. I only care about how their terrible choices affect those who cant get vaccinated and the burden they put on the health care system (which only increases my ire towards them) . I care not at all about their suffering or death.
Be vaccinated, get your booster, hang out with your vaccinated and boostered tribe and things can basically be back to normal in that context. The unvaxxed? Avoid them like, well, you know.
Cermet
@New Deal democrat: Again, Maryland is still in decline (barely) and is in the North East.
Fair Economist
Bad-ish news from the CDC Weekly Flu Report. Flu test positivity is up to 0.3% – still a very low number, but going in the wrong direction. Worse, H3N2 has fairly abruptly become essentially all the sequenced cases, suggesting it has a version now poorly suppressed by existing immunity. So a bad flu season seems quite possibly, assuming COVID control measures don’t suppress it. That said, it’s worth remembering COVID is so much worse than the flu that the best death rates we saw back in early summer were comparable to the worst of the 2018 flu season, the worst since H3N2 emerged in 1968.
New Deal democrat
@Cermet: Maryland is in the South census region, which is how 91-Divoc divides the data, and which I follow for consistency.
You are welcome to include Maryland in the Northeast for your own accounting, but that does not make the Census Bureau wrong.
ETA: Also, MD’s 7 day average of cases is up from 11.2 to 12.4 per 100,000 over the past 7 days, having bottomed 6 days ago.
Sloane Ranger
Friday in the Uk we had 40,375 new cases. The rolling 7-day average is down by 6.5% but case numbers have been slowly rising over the last few days, whether this is just a temporary hike or the start of a new wave, we’ll have to wait and see. New cases by nation,
England – 33,155 (down 2317)
Northern Ireland – 1087 (down 375)
Scotland – 3349 (up 9)
Wales – 2784 (up 650).
Deaths – There were 145 deaths within 28 days of a positive test yesterday. The rolling 7-day average is down by 8.9%. 122 deaths were in England, 2 in Northern Ireland, 17 in Scotland and 4 in Wales.
Testing – 980,626 tests were conducted on Thursday, 11 November. The rolling 7-day average was down by 1%. The PCR testing capacity reported by labs on that date was 830,481.
Hospitalisation – As of Thursday there were 8652 people in hospital and 999 on ventilators. As of 8 November, the rolling 7-day average for hospital admissions was down by 12.4%.
Vaccinations – As of Thursday, 11th, 50,491,701 people had had 1 shot of a vaccine, 45,964,488 had had 2 and 11,823,643 had a 3rd shot/booster. Percentage wise this means that 87.8% of all people in the UK aged 12+ have had 1 shot, 79.9% had had 2 and 20.6% had had a 3rd shot/booster.
rikyrah
Fully vaccinated
COVID , with booster
Flu
And second shingles shot today ?
NeenerNeener
@Soapdish: In my little corner of Upstate NY, among the deaths that occurred between March and October this year :
Of those under 65 who died, 93% were not fully vaccinated
Of those 65 and older who died, 71% were not fully vaccinated
Soapdish
@NeenerNeener: You would expect that given 65+ is more vaccinated as a percentage of their total population.
I wonder if the figures I’m looking for are hospitalization/death per 100k (or whatever) of vaxxed vs unvaxxed.
(Also, I’m originally from farm country south of Buffalo :-) )
dr. bloor
@mrmoshpotato:
No need. I’m going to stream it live on my YouTube channel.
Kalakal
@rikyrah: Congratulation on achieving ambulant pincushion status!
Seriously though, well done!
J R in WV
@Cermet:
I guess one can call the North East as one wishes, but Maryland is 100% below the Mason-Dixon Line, which has historically been the northern border of the South. Would have been in the CSA but for the location of Washington DC.
Matt McIrvin
@Soapdish: As always, keep in mind in these comparisons that vaxxed vs. unvaxxed numbers for cases and deaths will be affected by base vaccination rates–and not JUST base vaccination rates for the whole population, but base vaccination rates for the groups most likely to get sick or die. If seniors and at-risk people are those most likely to be fully vaccinated, it can end up making vaccination look less effective. In the Northeast US, the people overwhelmingly most likely to be unvaccinated are kids and young adults, who are also the least likely to end up in the hospital when they get infected.
MattF
@J R in WV: Most of MD’s population is in the DC/Baltimore ‘Acela corridor’. Outside of that, it’s a border state.
Soapdish
@Matt McIrvin: good point, I wasn’t clear enough; it should also be broken down by age group. I think the <35/35-65/65+ brackets are a reasonably useful range.
Soapdish
@Matt McIrvin: good point, I wasn’t clear enough; it should also be broken down by age group. I think the <35/35-65/65+ brackets are a reasonably useful range.
Matt McIrvin
@Soapdish: Yes, effectively, you want a number that is the probability of serious illness/death for an unvaccinated vs. a vaccinated person, and ideally, you’d want it broken down by age cohorts and time after vaccination.
The studies that have been done to that level of detail are mostly not American, though… The ones I’ve seen, though, all show that the major vaccines are all dramatically effective against the worst outcomes, even after half a year, though the effectiveness wanes against catching an infection that will make you test positive.
Ksmiami
@rikyrah: turn the 5th into ash
J R in WV
@MattF:
Having been all through Maryland from east to west, I know where their population density is high and where it is low (rural).
I can’t tell, are we in general agreement, or having a dispute? Who knows…
Soapdish
@J R in WV: *insert “Why not both?” Gif here
Matt McIrvin
I’m seeing conservatives insisting that Joe Biden should cancel all vaccine mandates and use the Defense Production Act to immediately pump all national health resources into producing the new antiviral drugs instead. Why? I think just because the antivirals are politically acceptable to these people and anything about vaccines is not.
Cermet
@J R in WV: Since, as he pointed out, Maryland is classified as Southern for those purposes, then Southern it is and I stand (well, really I’m sitting, corrected.) The geographical def. of the North East includes Maryland, as does the Mid-Atlantic. Yes, Southern by the Maison line
Cermet
@Matt McIrvin: Production of antivirals is already more than enough as long as people get vaccinated. Talk about stupid!
Ruckus
@rikyrah:
Two of the justices on the 5th were appointed by Regan. In 1985 and 1987.
soapdish
@Matt McIrvin: Found this:
“COVID-19 Cases, Hospitalizations, and Deaths by Vaccination Status Washington State Department of Health November 10, 2021”
COVID-19 case rates per 100,000 population from October 06 to November 02, 2021
Age12-34: 1,810.1 vs 342.0 (5 times higher in unvaccinated)
Age 35-64: 1,957.9 vs 420.4 (5 times higher in unvaccinated)
Age 65+: 1,413.5 vs 320.6 (4 times higher in unvaccinated)
COVID-19 hospitalization rates per 100,000 population from September 29 to October 26, 2021
Age 12-34: 41.3 vs 3.1 (13 times higher in unvaccinated)
Age 35-64: 209.8 vs 11.7 (18 times higher in unvaccinated)
Age 65+: 497.5 vs 54.6 (9 times higher in unvaccinated)
COVID-19 hospitalization rates per 100,000 population from September 29 to October 26, 2021
(Deaths are only shown for Washingtonians 65 years old and older due to the relatively smaller number of deaths in other age groups and associated instability in rates when assessing by vaccination status.)
Age 65+: 157.4 vs 18.1 (9 times higher in unvaccinated)
For all ages 12+, despite being less than 25% of the population, the unvaccinated account for over 75% of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths.
https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/data-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf
Ksmiami
@Ruckus: Republicans = Death part 148957668643
Matt McIrvin
@soapdish: That’s pretty consistent with all the breakdowns I’ve seen from Israel, the UK, etc. Vaccine protection from becoming a “case” is still quite significant, but far enough from perfect that people should keep in mind they’re not impervious. Vaccine protection from becoming sick enough to go to the hospital or die is greater–but risk in all cases dramatically increases with age, so the groups for whom vaccination is most important will also be the ones for whom it seems least effective.