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You are here: Home / Politics / Media / War on Christmas Heats Up

War on Christmas Heats Up

by Betty Cracker|  December 8, 20217:18 am| 99 Comments

This post is in: Media, Open Threads

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Apparently this really happened overnight — someone torched the tree at America’s most destructive propaganda outlet:

#BREAKING: The Fox News Christmas Tree is on fire in NYC pic.twitter.com/xfWdFgdQIS

— Leonardo Puglisi (@Leo_Puglisi6) December 8, 2021

I’ll make none of the obvious remarks as I don’t want to end up on the sedition network’s “smirking liberal reactions” roundup segment.

Open thread.

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  1. 1.

    JPL

    December 8, 2021 at 7:21 am

    It’s a holiday miracle.

  2. 2.

    Cephalus Max

    December 8, 2021 at 7:22 am

    I’m enjoying the hell out of the post title.

  3. 3.

    debbie

    December 8, 2021 at 7:23 am

    Self-immolation from spite and malevolence?

  4. 4.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 8, 2021 at 7:25 am

    I hope it wasn’t arson, and if it was, I hope nobody on our team was responsible. Even though it’s Fox’s tree, it’s still a dangerous blaze.

  5. 5.

    Nina

    December 8, 2021 at 7:25 am

    Personally my prime suspect is fire code violations and cheap substandard wiring, because Fox believes in Freedumb!

  6. 6.

    Geminid

    December 8, 2021 at 7:25 am

    Where there’s woke, there’s fire.

  7. 7.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 8, 2021 at 7:25 am

    I’ll make none of the obvious remarks

    We’ll fill in for you, Betty, mind you it won’t be with your unique style.

  8. 8.

    Ryan

    December 8, 2021 at 7:27 am

    Fucking shame.

  9. 9.

    MikefromArlington

    December 8, 2021 at 7:28 am

    We won that battle guys.  Now to focus on the greater war!

  10. 10.

    matt the somewhat reasonable

    December 8, 2021 at 7:29 am

    Fox News should be more careful with their toys.

  11. 11.

    NotMax

    December 8, 2021 at 7:29 am

    It was bound to happen: muffling the hos.

    ;)

  12. 12.

    debbie

    December 8, 2021 at 7:30 am

    My nomination for more appropriate holiday decorating:

    What? No Jurassic Parka? pic.twitter.com/Hhu7d0tPG4
    — Stephen Colbert (@StephenAtHome) December 8, 2021

  13. 13.

    Betty Cracker

    December 8, 2021 at 7:35 am

    It was arson, according to a local NBC affiliate:

    Videos posted by witnesses to the Citizen App show thick clouds of black smoke coming from the tree after police say someone allegedly lit the tree located on West 48th Street and 6th Avenue on fire. A News 4 employee witnessed NYPD officers apprehending a suspect near the tree after midnight.

    A police department spokesperson confirmed a 49-year-old man was in custody but investigators couldn’t confirm an incendiary device was used. A light was removed from the suspect, though it’s also unclear whether it was used.

    Police say the man acted alone and the incident didn’t appear to be premeditated or politically motivated. Charges against him are pending.

  14. 14.

    lowtechcyclist

    December 8, 2021 at 7:37 am

    The network that regards the killer of two innocent people as a hero really can’t complain too much about someone killing a frickin’ tree.

    If it should turn out that this was a deliberate act, that is, rather than a problem with the wiring.

  15. 15.

    Elizabelle

    December 8, 2021 at 7:37 am

    How festive.

  16. 16.

    NotMax

    December 8, 2021 at 7:43 am

    When does Tucky C. begin calling for a crackdown on Firefox?

    //

  17. 17.

    Elizabelle

    December 8, 2021 at 7:44 am

    NY Post: “The holiday display was set ablaze shortly after midnight and the flames quickly spread up the tree in Fox Square outside the 6th Avenue building that houses Fox News, The Wall Street Journal and the New York Post.”

    Tree decorated with red, white and blue ornaments, and obnoxious signage around proclaiming an “All American Christmas.”

    Shall we tell them?

  18. 18.

    marklar

    December 8, 2021 at 7:44 am

    Liar Liar, trees on fire.

  19. 19.

    ThresherK

    December 8, 2021 at 7:45 am

    Fox News has earned every iota of their crap reputation.

    Is it irresponsible to speculate that this is a false flag operation?

    No, it is irresponsible not to.

  20. 20.

    debbie

    December 8, 2021 at 7:46 am

    Bet those decorations weren’t made in America.

  21. 21.

    Betty Cracker

    December 8, 2021 at 7:47 am

    @marklar: That would have been a better title!

  22. 22.

    Elizabelle

    December 8, 2021 at 7:49 am

    @Betty Cracker:   I know.  I love it.

  23. 23.

    raven

    December 8, 2021 at 7:52 am

    Our neighbors had a house fire Sunday morning. They are both writers and lost most of their work and archives. Everyone is safe but they have a long way to go to recover.

  24. 24.

    rikyrah

    December 8, 2021 at 7:54 am

    Good Morning Everyone ???

  25. 25.

    rikyrah

    December 8, 2021 at 7:55 am

    @raven:

    ????

  26. 26.

    rikyrah

    December 8, 2021 at 7:55 am

    @marklar:

    Ah .. good one

  27. 27.

    debbie

    December 8, 2021 at 7:55 am

    @raven:

    Glad they’re okay, but what a loss for them!

  28. 28.

    The Thin Black Duke

    December 8, 2021 at 7:56 am

    Let’s start a GoFundMe for the arsonist.

  29. 29.

    sab

    December 8, 2021 at 7:56 am

    My mother died in 2012. One of our biggest fights in the last few years was whether or not to continue to use her mother’s Christmas lights on the tree. Those things had to date back to the 1940s.

  30. 30.

    matt the somewhat reasonable

    December 8, 2021 at 7:59 am

    @sab: I replaced the vintage knob and tube wiring in my old house a few years back. Made it a little easier to sleep at night.

  31. 31.

    Ken

    December 8, 2021 at 8:01 am

    @sab: Christmas isn’t really Christmas without the smell of hot asbestos.

  32. 32.

    raven

    December 8, 2021 at 8:01 am

    @rikyrah: This is Dr McKnight and

    Dr Mark.

  33. 33.

    Betty Cracker

    December 8, 2021 at 8:03 am

    @sab: Wow, amazing that the 1940s lights still worked, but I guess that’s because I’m used to cheap, mass-produced crap that breaks every three years.

    My husband’s grandfather owned a dive bar in Buffalo, New York in the 1940s-50s, and we have a lighted sign that once adorned the street window. The cord looks sketchy, but it still works. We only use it when someone is present to make sure it doesn’t catch on fire!

  34. 34.

    p.a.

    December 8, 2021 at 8:05 am

    Maybe the tree did it when it found out it was Fox’s.

  35. 35.

    Chris

    December 8, 2021 at 8:06 am

    Maybe God was pissed off enough at having fascists claim him for their own that he set their celebration of his big day on fire as a “I don’t want anything to do with you people” sign.  Same way he burned the swastika off of that box holding the Ark of the Covenant.

    (Given the nature of Christmas and Yuletide, “God” in this case may mean Jesus or Odin).

  36. 36.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 8, 2021 at 8:10 am

    @Betty Cracker: A buddy of mine gave us a 1940/50s desktop fan as a housewarming gift. A real finger eater, it moves air like nobody’s business. We still use it.

  37. 37.

    raven

    December 8, 2021 at 8:10 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Original wiring?

  38. 38.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 8, 2021 at 8:13 am

    @raven: Yep. Nothing wrong with it, so if it ain’t broke, I’m not fixing it.

  39. 39.

    Van Buren

    December 8, 2021 at 8:13 am

    Mrs. Van Buren, in a rare moment of insanity, bought a tree skirt impregnated with glitter. The dogs decided it made a nice blanket. My house has been glitter bombed, and the pups look fabulous!

  40. 40.

    Betty

    December 8, 2021 at 8:13 am

    @raven: That’s just devastating. What a loss.

  41. 41.

    brendancalling

    December 8, 2021 at 8:14 am

    Pffffft. “False flag!” That tree is clearly a crisis actor-tree. Check out any of the footage of California or Oregon wildfires. That tree is in every. single. one.

    And if it wasn’t a crisis actor-tree, it might still be alive if it complied.
    /Fox

  42. 42.

    John S.

    December 8, 2021 at 8:17 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    My grandfather owned a thriving Admiral appliance repair shop in NYC back in the day. I’m not even sure a business like that can exist now.

  43. 43.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    December 8, 2021 at 8:18 am

    @raven: OMG.

    I hope they were using a cloud backup.

  44. 44.

    raven

    December 8, 2021 at 8:19 am

    @John S.: I had a stackable washer/dryer that had mechanical controls and I was able to fix it three times. The digital. . .fuggettabouit.

  45. 45.

    raven

    December 8, 2021 at 8:20 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Nope, lots and lots of paper. She showed me the pictures of her space this morning and almost everything is gone. Did you know them in Iowa City? O

    Ooops, you were in Ames.

  46. 46.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    December 8, 2021 at 8:21 am

    @marklar: @Van Buren: You both made me laugh out loud. Great way to start the day.

  47. 47.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    December 8, 2021 at 8:23 am

    @raven: I didn’t know many people in Iowa City because I worked in Ames, but once again, OMG

    I think I’ve said before that I was at the University of Michigan when the old wooden shed that housed the economics dept burned down. Those faculty lost everything from teaching notes to books to their current project. This was pre-computers too.

  48. 48.

    scav

    December 8, 2021 at 8:24 am

    Someone was upset there weren’t enough guns and requests for ammo in the display?

  49. 49.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 8, 2021 at 8:24 am

    @John S.: @raven:

    We’ve got a really good appliance repairman, been using him ever since we moved out here. Fixed both our washer and dryer several times.

    When the microwave went on the fritz? He just shook his head and told me to replace it. Which sucked because it was a built-in and I had to rework the trim all around it.

  50. 50.

    bbleh

    December 8, 2021 at 8:25 am

    Fox”s tree was WEAK. This wouldn’t have happened to a STRONG tree!

  51. 51.

    raven

    December 8, 2021 at 8:34 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: When I worked for the “System” here in Georgia we had a case at a small school where their course management system and the tape backup failed right at the end of the term. We took a team of about 30 people down there and spent two weeks helping faculty rebuild their courses. Some had everything backed up and some had nothing.

  52. 52.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 8, 2021 at 8:35 am

    @debbie:

    Self-immolation from spite and malevolence? 

    Most likely.

  53. 53.

    raven

    December 8, 2021 at 8:36 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Thanks for reminding me, mine need a bulb! In renovation news, the painters should be done today and then the floors. They put in the granite countertop yesterday so it’s really shaping up.

  54. 54.

    JMG

    December 8, 2021 at 8:36 am

    In the basement I still have Christmas lights handed down to me by my father. I don’t dare use them inside or out because they get hot enough for baking. I also inherited lead-based tinsel, which Dad would lovingly remove from the tree each January and pack away, strand by deadly strand.

  55. 55.

    Butch

    December 8, 2021 at 8:37 am

    For what it’s worth, from an ABC New York affiliate:

    Heavy flames then spread to smaller decorated trees in the display. A 49-year-old man spotted by building security climbing the tree was quickly taken into custody.

    The suspect is identified as 49-year-old Craig Tamanaha, who is homeless, with a last known address in Brooklyn. He is charged with criminal mischief, reckless endangerment, arson, criminal nuisance, endangering others, criminal trespass, criminal tampering and disorderly conduct.

  56. 56.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    December 8, 2021 at 8:37 am

    If Christmas hadn’t overrun Thanksgiving in a sneak attack and threatened Halloween, there wouldn’t have been any need for a counterattack.

  57. 57.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 8, 2021 at 8:38 am

    @raven: Pics or it ain’t happening!

  58. 58.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    December 8, 2021 at 8:38 am

    @raven: I’m resaving stuff to dropbox right now.

  59. 59.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 8, 2021 at 8:40 am

    @lowtechcyclist:

    The network that regards the killer of two innocent people as a hero really can’t complain too much about someone killing a frickin’ tree. 

    Oh?  You just watch the shitstains whine all the way to Christmas.

  60. 60.

    WaterGirl

    December 8, 2021 at 8:40 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    Police say the man acted alone and the incident didn’t appear to be premeditated or politically motivated. Charges against him are pending.

    I guess that means it was some white male right-wing conservative, right?

  61. 61.

    Soprano2

    December 8, 2021 at 8:42 am

    @Betty Cracker: I got tired of having to replace strings of lights every year, so about 10 or so years ago I splurged on two strings that cost $5 but had a money-back guarantee that they would last at least five years. I’m still using them, and they still work great!  Plus, I took all the bulbs out of the bad strings and used them as replacement bulbs, so I haven’t bought any replacement bulbs until this year, when they finally ran out.

  62. 62.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 8, 2021 at 8:43 am

    @Van Buren: LMAO!

  63. 63.

    prostratedragon

    December 8, 2021 at 8:43 am

    @raven:  Condolences to your neighbors, and hope they can figure out a way to recover eventually.

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:  I thought of that first, having arrived there some time later, but while many members of the department were still there — and still somewhat traumatized when anything near the subject came up.  Invariably thankful that no one was injured or killed. I think also of Ralph Ellison, who lost most of his work in a fire.

  64. 64.

    germy

    December 8, 2021 at 8:44 am

    They’re trying to nip VP Harris in the bud:

    It's been really something watching people go from "Check out Marie Antoinette over here with her $300 pan" to "I can't believe this luddite uses the headphones that came with her phone instead of shelling out $200 for wireless ones" in like a week.

    — Gateau du Boeuf (@Kmolyneaux) December 8, 2021

  65. 65.

    raven

    December 8, 2021 at 8:47 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Here’s a few.

    One issue we’re having, they did foam insulation on the walls and floors and some leaked onto the exterior. I guess if they had cleaned it with acetone at the time but they didn’t. We don’t have any of the original paint so we’re worried we are going to have to paint the entire exterior.

  66. 66.

    dmsilev

    December 8, 2021 at 8:49 am

    Silly liberal, you’re supposed to hug the tree, not torch it.

  67. 67.

    Chief Oshkosh

    December 8, 2021 at 8:49 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    A light was removed from the suspect, though it’s also unclear whether it was used.

    Ah, but WHERE was it removed from? Maybe it’s all a big misunderstanding, a mistake made by a Trump follower who was trying to follow his leader’s advice on using rectal lighting to kill Covid and, well, there was sure as shit a lot of lights on that tree…

  68. 68.

    artem1s

    December 8, 2021 at 8:51 am

    Hans Gruber is ALIVE!

  69. 69.

    waysel

    December 8, 2021 at 8:55 am

    @raven: You’re aware of the computer color matching some paint stores have available nowadays? Sherwin Williams has done it quite well for me.

  70. 70.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 8, 2021 at 8:59 am

    @raven: Looking good.

    We don’t have any of the original paint so we’re worried we are going to have to paint the entire exterior.

    Ooopps. That sucks. Any way you could get creative with it?

  71. 71.

    Betty Cracker

    December 8, 2021 at 9:02 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: We’ve got an ancient Vornadofan stand model that weighs at least 40 pounds and has absolutely zero safety features, but damn, that thing could probably keep a hurricane at bay with the sheer force of its mighty wind!

  72. 72.

    prostratedragon

    December 8, 2021 at 9:04 am

    Whether we please, or don’t please:

    The inner lives of cats

  73. 73.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 8, 2021 at 9:04 am

    @Betty Cracker: Metal blades rule!

  74. 74.

    stacib

    December 8, 2021 at 9:04 am

    @Bruce K in ATH-GR: This is laugh out loud funny.  Thanks!

  75. 75.

    Betty Cracker

    December 8, 2021 at 9:07 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Yep! So dangerous though! I’m glad it’s on a high stand where children and dogs can’t get at it. And it’s so damn heavy they can’t turn it over either.

  76. 76.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 8, 2021 at 9:09 am

    @Betty Cracker: Yeah, I keep our oldie on top of a book shelf where I am the only one who can reach it. Grand babies, doncha know.

  77. 77.

    Elizabelle

    December 8, 2021 at 9:15 am

    WRT Fox News:  I think we should call it Phony News.  Not Fake News.  They’ve appropriated that insult.

    Phony sums up a staff of highly paid vaccinated personalities lying to their viewers during a deadly pandemic.

    Thought about that since burned tree is in front of “News Corporation” HQ.

  78. 78.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    December 8, 2021 at 9:22 am

    @Chris: Goddess, Yule is Freja’s day. Thus the hams.

    Smart people don’t accept meat from Odin.

  79. 79.

    Soprano2

    December 8, 2021 at 9:24 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: My grandparents had two of those in their living room. One was in front of the TV. My parents had one, too. They could put out some air!

  80. 80.

    Honus

    December 8, 2021 at 9:28 am

    @germy: as someone pointed out on another thread, every one of those guns in Massie’s Xmas card tweet cost more than the Le Creuset Harris bought.

  81. 81.

    raven

    December 8, 2021 at 9:44 am

    @waysel: I am, in no way, involved with paint and color issues. None.

  82. 82.

    WaterGirl

    December 8, 2021 at 9:47 am

    @raven: That makes you a very smart man!

  83. 83.

    Jeffery

    December 8, 2021 at 10:05 am

    It was a setup by FOX. They probably paid the guy to do it. Now they can cry christian persecution.

  84. 84.

    Boris Rasputin (the evil twin)

    December 8, 2021 at 10:07 am

    Is it possible the tree somehow got an idea of where it was, and the fire was suicide?

  85. 85.

    Betty Cracker

    December 8, 2021 at 10:07 am

    @Honus: That’s an excellent point.

  86. 86.

    Squid696

    December 8, 2021 at 10:15 am

    It was self-defense.

  87. 87.

    MattF

    December 8, 2021 at 10:37 am

    I went to a flea market years ago and saw a ‘40s dollhouse that had been ‘electrified.’ Just astonishing, what was considered acceptable electrical wiring for a child’s toy, back in those days.

  88. 88.

    QuiltingFool

    December 8, 2021 at 10:39 am

    1. @Van Buren: Glitter:  The herpes of craft rooms.  I’m sorry for you all; that glitter will NEVER leave!
  89. 89.

    Rattlemullet

    December 8, 2021 at 10:58 am

    May be they will replace it with an aluminum festivus pole. More fitting to those at fox air their grievances on a daily basis.

  90. 90.

    Mike in NC

    December 8, 2021 at 11:10 am

    Proof that there really is a God?

  91. 91.

    ETtheLibrarian

    December 8, 2021 at 11:53 am

    As my friend said, she thought they were more into burning crosses……

  92. 92.

    Jess

    December 8, 2021 at 12:02 pm

    Yo Fox–All Trees Matter!

  93. 93.

    Chris Johnson

    December 8, 2021 at 12:45 pm

    @WaterGirl: It could very easily be some MAGA dude who thinks Fox is liberal now. Those are the ones groomed for terror acts, and they’re real mad at ‘RINOs’.

  94. 94.

    lowtechcyclist

    December 8, 2021 at 12:46 pm

    @Jeffery: It was a setup by FOX. They probably paid the guy to do it. Now they can cry christian persecution.

    Well, about time they were persecuted by Christians!

  95. 95.

    lowtechcyclist

    December 8, 2021 at 12:48 pm

    @MattF:

    I went to a flea market years ago and saw a ‘40s dollhouse that had been ‘electrified.’ Just astonishing, what was considered acceptable electrical wiring for a child’s toy, back in those days.

    I have a feeling my mid-1960s chemistry set wouldn’t pass muster nowadays either…

  96. 96.

    Ruckus

    December 8, 2021 at 1:10 pm

    @lowtechcyclist:

    Neither would any of the inventory of mine or of the high school chemistry class I took about then. Looking back, I’m amazed that they could sell that stuff. But then I remember that we used white lead and oil as a tapping fluid – that’s making threads in holes, white lead was banned from sale, it’s only slightly toxic, lead poisoning currently killing somewhere around 550,000 people in the world every year, even as it’s use has been cut dramatically 50 yrs ago in the US.

  97. 97.

    sab

    December 8, 2021 at 1:33 pm

    @MattF: My mother had an electrified dollshouse. When I got it as a child they had removed the plug, but it still had little ceiling lights

    ETA My grandmother had a little propane stove/ oven that they occassionally had to rush into the backyard in case it was about to blow up.

  98. 98.

    Suzanne

    December 8, 2021 at 1:46 pm

    @Honus:

    as someone pointed out on another thread, every one of those guns in Massie’s Xmas card tweet cost more than the Le Creuset Harris bought. 

    I’ve run into this mindset before. So many gun owners see their arsenals as necessities and not luxuries. I remember a former friend complaining about how she never had money to travel or buy new clothes, and I suggested that she sell some of the firepower she owns (or just stop buying more), and you would have thought I suggested chopping off an arm.

  99. 99.

    lurkypants

    December 8, 2021 at 1:49 pm

    @Nina: possibly there was a fire hazard/bad wiring.  I recognize those nutcracker/soldiers from when I worked at Rock Center 20 years ago (I was two doors down, in the building that put giant ornaments in the fountain out front, kitty-corner from Radio City). And who knows how old they were then?

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