Is this Complaints? We have not had any snow this year, not even flurries. Nothing. Dan B shared his snow with me, but it is Not. The. Same.
As long as we’re complaining, it has felt like Sunday all day today. As someone said yesterday (me!) it’s never too late for Festivus.
Open thread.
OzarkHillbilly
They say we might get some come Saturday. I’ll settle for below freezing temps for 24 straight hours.
Professor Bigfoot
We have no snow here in the Hall of Fame City; and I personally *am not complaining.*
I cold stand this weather through the entire winter. I can’t be that lucky though.
[ed: also, the coveted number two spot? Must be my night!]
VeniceRiley
My sister keeps sending pictures of what has been happening since the day I left Utah. Shovel, shovel, toil and trouble!
Roger Moore
I’m sorry, this is abuse. You want room 12A, down the hall.
ETA: We don’t have snow, either, but we weren’t expecting any in Southern California. We have had plenty of rain, though.
Mai Naem mobile
I read San Diego may possibly get some snow. Worried for Tbogg and his diogies. Will they survive flurries which will melt within the day?
WaterGirl
Winter has one redeeming quality: snow. I want a refund!
mrmoshpotato
No snow in your future. But people in the northwest and the mountains might share.
WaterGirl
@mrmoshpotato: I know you’re in Chicago, are you near the lake? That increases your chance of snow.
mrmoshpotato
@VeniceRiley: My sister and brother-in-law have been in Park City since Wednesday.
mrmoshpotato
@WaterGirl: It can increase the chance of snow (lake effect snow). 1.7 inches of powder are forecast for New Year’s.
Achrachno
I can’t understand the desire for snow. I lived in a snowy place for a couple of years and I still vividly remember the shoveling, though it was 40 years ago. Besides, snow is really hard on the orange trees.
Gin & Tonic
As some wag said on Twitter, they seem to have more gravity in Russia than there is elsewhere in the world.
[Emphasis added]
Dan B
Looks pretty there, no argument. As for being snowbound in a city where people don’t know how to drive in the snow….
I grew up in serious snow country. Alas it is no more according to SAB who owns a rental house in my hometown.
burnspbesq
I have a complaint: I was planning a full evening of watching cricket, and England didn’t even last an hour.
Australia retains the Ashes, on the back of one of the most dominant displays of bowling you will ever see.
frosty
1/2” or so in PA east of the Allegheny Tunnel, along with ice on the trees in the mountains. Looked nice except for the grey clouds.
First dusting this year. It’ll be gone tomorrow; temps in the 40s.
Gin & Tonic
@burnspbesq:
So that’s why they call you Mr. Excitement.
Mary G
Baud
@Gin & Tonic:
I wonder if Putin has trouble retaining assassins who feel that their creativity is being stifled.
realbtl
2º and 6″ of snow here in NW MT, elevation 3000′. Lots more snow up high.
Spanky
@Gin & Tonic: I guess the little detail that the neighbors heard shouting from three different people wasn’t worth reporting.
burnspbesq
Holy shit.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-12-27/two-new-storms-heading-into-southern-california-this-week
If the snow level drops to 2,500 feet in OC, there will be snow in Anaheim Hills and Yorba Linda. Yikes! Slow and easy, y’all.
Leto
Had a few hours of flurries here, outside Philly. Nothing that stuck, but it was pretty. I think the high today was about 35F. Next six days highs will be from high 40s to low 50s. Just pick a temp and stick with it, please.
Sure Lurkalot
While I like snow, I hate driving on icy roads and blinding storms.
That said, Xmas in the mountains west of Boulder (not ski country except for the small Eldora resort) had the least snow I’ve ever seen up there. Even though it flurried every day, there was little to no accumulation and the trails were clear with just a coating in the woods. Frankly a bit scary though the high mountain ranges are getting some decent storms.
Dorothy A. Winsor
The non-snowy, sort of warm weather makes me uneasy. It’s just wrong.
Brachiator
We had another day of steady rain here in Southern California. And it is also a bit cold.
I suppose we need the rain, but still, it has been a bit of a pain.
I guess I should not complain.
ETA: Monty Python anticipated an aspect of the Internet.
I was reading some comments connected to a video clip of a fairly innocuous game show. Sure enough after about 4 comments, someone had to start an argument containing a heap of invective.
Carol Van Natta
We’ve had nearly zero, zip, nada, zilch* in the snow department in Fort Collins, CO, about 70 miles north of Denver. We usually have a total of about 12 inches by this time, so we’re WAY behind.
However, as much as neither I nor the cats are fans of snow and cold, I am equally not a fan of dragging around my hoses and sprinklers to save the new xeriscape plantings because the automatic drip system has been shut down for the winter.
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*The weather service said we had 0.4 inch on Nov. 1. It melted in 4 hours.
WaterGirl
PSA: Has everyone backed up their computers recently?
Amazing that 9 GB can take less than 5 minutes to back up.
dmsilev
@burnspbesq: Yeah, looks like we’re getting off to a good start with regards to water this year. Now, we just need like five or ten such years strung together…
Ceci n est pas mon nym
There were a few flakes this afternoon, but none of them stuck around..
If there’s going to be a “serious” snowfall here in Philly, as in requiring actual shoveling, it usually seems to be late in the winter, like Feb or March.
Being a nutcase from the Frozen North, I usually try to get out there and do a snow sculpture when the conditions are right (enough snow and of a consistency to allow sculpting). Half the winters we never have a single day where conditions are right.
FelonyGovt
Seems boorish to complain about rain in Southern California, so I won’t. Not like I’m going anywhere anyway…
mali muso
My kiddo shares this complaint. According to her, Christmas is supposed to have snow. Here in VA, we had 60-something degree weather. For her sake, I hope we get at least one good snowfall this season.
debbie
I would sell my soul for a snowless winter. Also a winter without polar vortexes.
worn
So Watergirl, we have all your snow hoarded where I am currently – up in the Sierras at Lake Tahoe, where there is a good 4-5 feet on the ground. My girlfriend & I set out from Portland on Xmas day, driving in turn from Ashland to Reno yesterday via the woodsy track just south of Mt Shasta. I will just say that for this Georgia expat it was quite the intense driving experience – 130 miles or so of driving thru the forest on a 2 lane deeply-snowEd track, followed by about the same distance buffeted by gale force winds south from Susanville, with conditions of zero visibility cropping up at random moments. Somehow we managed to just squeak by the road closure being set up on the road out of Susanville; phone map routed us around it on a surface road beside the airport. The police had to move their barriers a mile or so down the road to plug the cheat route. Highway 395 is still closed 24 hours later. I am so glad we made it out of there and that I was able to shuttle those of my family who managed to make it to Reno up the mountain.
Oh wait, this is the complaints department.
Well in that case, I’d like to complain that my brother & his wife are currently stuck in Sacramento. We will see tomorrow if they open any of the roads from the east so that they have a chance of joining us. Currently it’s a no-go situation. Also, too: my youngest sister, who had managed to avoid contracting Covid, had her company bought by another & they immediately required upper management to come into the office rather than the remote work all had been doing. End result, the entire team got infected. And so my she & her partner had to cancel joining us here. Yeah, I can fucking complain about those fucking fuckers (insert EFG quote here)…
To everyone else here, hope your holidays have been & will continue to be wonderful!
Mike in NC
I thought it was Sunday, too and didn’t go to the mailbox until 6 PM.
scav
Snowing here in the upper left and after losing power at least four times starting late on the 25th, today we had frozen pipes (all successfully dealt with). The power outage today was just a fuse. I’m always out of sync with the cool kids.
JAFD
“Wintery Mix” falleth on Gotham City and environs tonight
I and friends have noticed that warm wet autumn hath produced plentiful allergens – mold, pollen, ??? Been dosing myself with generic Cetirizine Hydrochloride, which seems to have reduced some symptoms.
Am hunkering down until this <bleep> Omicron <bleep> mess clears up.
Hoping that all you jackals have a merry New Year’s and a healthy, happy, peaceful and prosperous 2022 !
Ken
Nonsense, it’s just a little warmer than normal.
— Signed, A Fellow Frog in the Pot
Grumpy Old Railroader
Went from fire season directly to mudslide season here in Northern California. For giggles you can look at the I80 web cams over Donner Pass here:
http://newtoreno.com/ca-i80-webcams-donner-summit.htm
All the highways over the Sierra are closed except CA70 which follows the Feather River at a lower elevation. But that will be closed when the normal winter mudslide/rockslide closes that route. One of my most favorite jobs on the railroad was working a snow flanger keeping the tracks open in big snow storms.
worn
@burnspbesq: Damn, really?
It’s a little nuts at Tahoe…4-5 ft of snow on the ground near as I can tell. Glad I won’t be behind the wheel for a few days. Driving down from OR yesterday was quite enough.
raven
@worn: it was 72 in Athens today
Jackie
@Dan B: To be fair, steep hills – which the Seattle area has many – isn’t easy driving on snow and icy conditions.
But, yeah, Western NW drivers panic on the freeways at 1/2” of snow.
debbie
@JAFD:
I’m just now getting over this summer’s allergies. They were just horrible, the worst year yet.
dmsilev
Speaking of snow, the LA Times’s story about the wet weather has this lovely correction attached:
worn
@Grumpy Old Railroader: Are you sure 70 is open? Map currently showed it as closed almost all the way across the Sierras. I went & took a gander because I’m trying to find a route to get my brother & his wife across the mountains. It ain’t pretty out there.
Sure Lurkalot
@worn: I’ve had a few of those harrowing drives not only in snow, but rain and fog. I drowned a car in a torrential rainstorm in a city that gets 15” of precipitation per year. The scary shit can happen anywhere.
oatler
@FelonyGovt:
It never rains in California
But girl, don’t they warn ya?
It pours, man, it pours
Leto
@raven: my parents sent me pics from the beach where they were hanging out for the day. Also 72 in Charleston. We were only about 40 degrees lower… =/
FelonyGovt
I posted this in the COVID thread this AM after it was about dead. We have tickets to a hockey game on Thursday and are really hoping the NHL postpones it, as so many players and coaches are in the COVID protocol. Although they check vax status at the door, mask compliance was poor at the last game we attended. If they don’t postpone we have a decision to make, but probably won’t go.
raven
@Leto: Yea it was like that all the way on our drive down from Virginia.
worn
@Sure Lurkalot: The mercurial aspect of the weather on the east side here has been fascinating. You can go from bright & sunny to zero visibility in a couple of miles. Never seen anything like these winds before, that’s for sure.
Leto
Interesting piece on how climate change is affecting wine production (CBS: 60 Mins):
Europe’s wine industry being altered by climate change
prostratedragon
With folks complaining about the lack of snow around Chicagoland. A dusting due tonight, but nothing much on the horizon. Proper winter temps, borderline parka weather, are due (mostly) to set in after New Year’s, though.
HumboldtBlue
Coastal Humboldt is in one of those “you literally can’t get there from here” phases that happens every now and then during winter storms. The weather has been simply dreadful. Cold, wind, lotsa hail and rain and a lot of snow 1500 and up.
Lots of trees and limbs down, power lines as well and driving conditions are terrible.
Elsewhere — interesting read about the tentacles of the drug war, this time on 90s TV.
Dan B
@Jackie: I sent a pic to Watergirl of the arterial at the end of our block – a steep 120’+ hill with two cars jack knifed midway. What nuts drive down a snow covered steep hill? Oh, Seattle drivers in snow!
Dan B
@dmsilev: Two locations in WA Cascades have regular snowfall in feet. M. Baker at 95′ or so one winter and Paradise at Mt. Rainier at 90’+ one year. The snow plows are nuts blasting the snow straight up 100′.
Suzanne
@frosty: Fo’ realz? It is like 45 degrees here in PGH. Spawn the Elder is visiting from AZ and he is really hoping for some snow before he leaves. We had a very light dusting a couple of weeks ago, but nothing that has required any shoveling.
Dan B
@Leto: The erratic weather Europe is having seems to be the weakening and increasingly wavy Jet Stream that is a consequence of the Arctic warming very rapidly. The Jet Stream is fastest when the temperature difference between the subtopics and Arctic is greatest. A slow and weak Jet Stream allows for giant meanders like the slow Mississippi south of the confluence with the Ohio. These ‘eddys’ allow Arctic air like we have in the PNW and, when the incursion comes from the south, heat domes like this summer that brought 100° – 115° heatwave.
It was interesting that England is growing fine wine and has avoided the extremes. The Gulf Stream may be providing protection.
Darren
Here in Vancouver BC it’s a dozen below (Celsius as it’s the modern world up here) snow on the ground (a few centimetres. I already told you why) and I’m right down by the water (elevation of a few meters. You’re catching on) where this shit never happens. We already had floods and fires and pestilence this year. Expecting frogs next year and hoping boils hold off at least for a while.
And many worse things are already baked in for billions of people who bear far less blame for this than we do.
Jackie
@Dan B: Almost anytime Seattle gets snow, there’s bloopers showing cars sliding down Queen Anne. Or trying to go up. In slo-mo.
Sister Golden Bear
@WaterGirl: If you really want snow…. Donner Pass has gotten almost 15 feet of snow this month. One of the nearby ski resorts got more than six feet in the last 48 hours, with more on the way.
Easy to see how the Donner Party got trapped after a single snow storm.
The Pale Scot
Does anyone know how to short circuit a tv purposely without that being obvious?
Asking for a friend
Jay
@The Pale Scot:
flyback transformer from a CRT, on off switch, microwave emitter from a dead microwave, ( it’s always the timer), small parabolic metal dish,……
Kayla Rudbek
Complaints: I can’t get any more rapid at-home Covid tests, and Mr. Rudbek and I had to use the one box we had today (we saw some of his family on the 20th and three days later one of them tested positive). Both of us tested negative so at least that is good news.
Geoduck
As noted, we here in western Washington State have gotten a dose this week. Only three or four inches here in the state capital, but any amount is a pain for those of us who are life’s pedestrians. Roads at least get plowed. Sidewalks? Ha!
debbie
@The Pale Scot:
Flip off the fuse.
Dan B
@Geoduck: My brother attended McGill in Montreal. They had sidewalk plows.
So… They bkw the snow toward the street. The street plows pushed it back towards the sidewalk. Rinse, repeat. There developed ridges with icy sides between sidewalk and street. To cross the icy street you had to ascend the icy ridge and hope you could do the same on the far side of the road.
Careful what you wish for. The difference in Montreal was snow for at least three months. The build up was substantial.
Dan B
@Jay: If we end up in dystopian future can I be an intern on Team Jay?
Leto
@Dan B:
They’re not really avoiding it. Their summers have warmed a good bit. When we lived there (2013-2017) they were having hotter summers, high 80s and up into the 90s. As well as the corresponding milder winters. They’re also having issues with flooding and sea level rise.
It’s definitely weird to think of the UK as a potential good wine maker. As we were leaving it was becoming more of a thing; more advertising involved, more word of mouth stuff. I guess we’ll see how it pans out.
HumboldtBlue
Here are some outtakes of Julie Andrews swearing, so there’s that.
Dan B
@Leto: Last time I was in London (1987?) it hit 86°. The heated towel bars in the hotel room were still on.
I thought that one of the Brits on 60 Minutes said England had avoided the frosts and extreme weather that had plagued France and Italy. 80’s and 90’s is sort of extreme for England but wine growing regions in the PNW, Australia, and South America hit the hundreds every year.
Jay
@Dan B:
we are currently accepting applications in anticipation of 2022,….
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Dan B: I saw this when it snowed and walked up the hill to my gf’s place, driving sideways.
Odie Hugh Manatee
We’re back to our usual fall-winter monsoon weather here on the south Oregon coast but colder than usual. A bit of snow fell this am but did not stick around. More is expected tonight but still not expected to stick around. Most of Oregon is covered in snow, even the east desert. That fuckhead the failed cop, Jared Schmuck… I mean Schmeck… Schmuck-Schmeck, same thing… lives in Central Point and supposedly commutes the hour and forty-five+ minutes to Klamath Falls (and back) to work for his felon daddy at his religious electric company. One of the roads he would use is closed and the other is not recommended after dark as there is minimal road maintenance at night.
I wonder if he ‘works’ for daddy for COVID relief loan purposes…
Jay
@Dan B:
when I was a kid in the Maritimes, the mountains of snow between the sidewalks and the street were perfect for snow forts, tunnels, parapets, so we we would have snowball “wars” with across the street.
they got pretty intense and complex.
I think we were the only neighbourhood kids in the world with catapults and siege ladders.
dnfree
This is infuriating. The other officers were telling the officer who killed the teenager to slow down.
LOS ANGELES — The Los Angeles Police Department released an array of video footage and audio recordings Monday that captured the chaotic moments before and after an officer opened fire with a long rifle inside a Burlington store two days before Christmas, killing a 14-year-old girl and an assault suspect.
The videos and audio, showing everything from the suspect’s erratic movements in the store and his attacks on multiple customers to the moments an officer opened fire with a long rifle, show police didn’t give any commands to the suspect, who was shot down the aisle from the bloodied assault victim.
The lone officer who opened fire, however, was told to “slow down” more than a dozen times by other responding officers before shots were fired. He has been placed on administrative leave, the department confirmed to USA TODAY, and not yet publicly identified.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Apparently the reply to MAGA Hats now is “Let’s Go Darwin!” lol
HumboldtBlue
Here are The Supremes and The Temptations tearing it up with “I’m losing you.”
HumboldtBlue
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
I like it.
The Pale Scot
@Jay: You have a diagram?? Maybe a microwave magnetron would do it?
@debbie: No fuse, LED, I have Soldering Certs so it has to be with a light touch so as to remain blameless
Another Scott
ICYMI, Jon Swift Roundup.
Several Juicers are listed. :-)
Cheers,
Scott.
mrmoshpotato
@The Pale Scot: What show is driving you crazy?
Suzanne
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: It’s already going viral and I have to admit I find it funny.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@The Pale Scot:
Sounds painful, have you seen a doctor?
The Pale Scot
@mrmoshpotato:
All of them Katie, family is in town, the fucking thing is on all day, I don’t watch TV, It’s driving me nuts.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@The Pale Scot: can you sneak outside and disconnect teh cable, antenna, what-have-you?
mrmoshpotato
@The Pale Scot: Hiw long do you have to endure?
Jay
@The Pale Scot:
Parental controls. Limit it to the fireplace channel.
Grumpy Old Railroader
@worn: Take Amtrak #5 from Sacramento to Reno. A 5-hour scenic route they will never regret
Betsy
@Carol Van Natta:
Umm … le point, where is it!?
Betsy
@The Pale Scot: I feel you. No Tv in almost 40 years. Can’t stand hotel lobbies at breakfast time. Now all the doctors have them in their waiting rooms, too. Nasty, distracting, crazy-making stuff!
The Pale Scot
I appreciate the help, the is a Floridian open floor plan house. One floor all rooms exit to the middle of house. It’s just the tv in the living room (middle of the house) I’m hating. If all the tv’s went down it wouldn’t work. The McGuffin is my flight attendant sister, whose husband recently died of cancer and her dog has cancer. She said she would work from here and my father and could watch the wee dog, I have a broken foot and dad has COPD, one month? OK. She comes back from a work trip and plants herself in front of the TV from 5am to 9-10pm, there’s no place to truly get away from it. Now the timeline is extending apparently.
She’s had a really rough year, with COVID and my foot I can’t get away. I wouldn’t leave the dog alone with dad anyway. Before COVID I lived alone for 30 years. Not having any solitude (except in the middle of the the night), It’s affecting my ability to plan and make decisions.
If I can just fry the living room TV….
Jay
@The Pale Scot:
or, shut the tv off, pull the batteries out of the remote. Hide the remote.
The Pale Scot
@Betsy:
Hey Betsy, did you buy a computer yet?
The Pale Scot
@Jay:
Loosing the remote would only give me a day or two, and constant demands for me to fix it. TV dies, I offer eventual solutions that don’t pan out. set up a ROKU TV in her bedroom
Chetan Murthy
@The Pale Scot: how about earbuds with a really long cord ? You could sell it as a compromise.
The Pale Scot
@Chetan Murthy:
I forgot about buying a bluetooth transmitter for her AirPods, that could work. Thx
Gotta crash, Ciao
frosty
@Suzanne: Yep, fo’realz. Snow stuck all the way home to the Maryland line. An odd one were Western PA got less than the Susquehanna Valley. You’ll get your share, sorry Spawn the Elder missed it.
ETA: warming up on Tuesday here, sounds like you’re on the leading edge in the west. Or “west” LOL since you’re from Arizona.
frosty
@The Pale Scot: Earplugs. Then tell her your hearing aids failed. What? You don’t have hearing aids? Point to the earplugs and tell her it was recent, you’ll email the details later.
HumboldtBlue
This is what the latest earthquake felt like from inside a moving vehicle.
L&DinSLT
@worn: Six feet on the ground at our house at 6270′ elevation near the Y in South Lake Tahoe. Seriously would just like a BIT of sun and a couple days of no snow. Our ideal is 1-2 feet every week. The lake, at least, should be up to it’s natural rim – if we have a good robust melt! This is one for the record books. Seriously, at the Central Sierra Snow Lab up on Donner, the new record for December is 197 – something inches vs the record from, I think, 1970 of 170 something. Recently 2016-2017 was also epic, and we got the bumper sticker for that one! Hearty mountain people. The newer arrivals, work from home mostly Bay Area transplants, are less sanguine. “But my Tesla is AWD!!!!” They’ll learn, soon we hope!
Dan B
@Jay: Optimist! I’m to the epilogue of Adam Schiff’s book. A bit ominous.
worn
@L&DinSLT:I think I’ve lived too long in Oregon. Sun? Is that that fickle yellow thing in sky that regularly disappears for months on end?
I’ll get out tomorrow and figure out how much is on the ground here (we are on the lake just a wee bit N of the state line). Today I shuttled my Dad up here from Reno, unloaded the luggage, immediately drove back, and then shuttled up the remainder of the family. Took all day to get that done. Those new snow tires I bought last week may very well be my best decision of the year; my rig has been a real champ thru this mess!
Chris T.
@Darren: I’m just a bit south of you, just east of I-5, and we got a fricking FOOT of snow (ok, about 30 cm). Which I shoveled using the snow shovel I last used in Utah a decade ago. It is not supposed to do this here. I was supposed to be done shoveling that much snow.
MagdaInBlack
Shall I assume the Illinois folks missing snow don’t have a 2 hour round trip commute in Chicago traffic? Or do you all just enjoy the challenge? I do not miss it.
dyspeptic
Not a flake in Chicago – I mean someone said they saw some a couple of weeks ago but nothing that stuck. Normally we’ve had at least one significant snow event by now and Xmas is regularly white. Nothing good about this.
Miss Bianca
@Another Scott: Ooh, looks like I’m going to have some serious reading to do…
MagdaInBlack
@dyspeptic: Look now. Its snowing in South Elgin
Carol Van Natta
@Betsy:
Le point: The hoses and sprinklers, when connected to the outdoor faucet, bring much needed water to my grass, plants, and shrubberies. But they require me schlepping them from area to area to accomplish said watering.
L&DinSLT
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10223750275877747&set=pcb.4745496855536821
dyspeptic
@dyspeptic: so funny. You say it here and it comes out there. Snowing since I left the comment