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You are here: Home / Politics / domestic terrorists / Late Night Horrorshow Open Thread: Guns’N’Golf Carts

Late Night Horrorshow Open Thread: Guns’N’Golf Carts

by Anne Laurie|  December 30, 20211:26 am| 32 Comments

This post is in: domestic terrorists, GOP Death Cult, Investigations Into Violent Extremist Attacks, Violent Insurrection at the Capitol

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Love too mix liquor and loaded Saigas https://t.co/izVzIDowSB

— zeddy (@Zeddary) December 28, 2021

It’d be funnier, if not for the whole ‘bring down the government’ parts…

Federal judge refuses to dismiss an indictment charging 4 alleged leaders of the far-right Proud Boys with conspiring to attack the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. https://t.co/hQP9XafqOE

— NBC News (@NBCNews) December 29, 2021

… U.S. District Judge Timothy Kelly on Tuesday rejected defense attorneys’ arguments that the four men — Ethan Nordean, Joseph Biggs, Zachary Rehl and Charles Donohoe — are charged with conduct that is protected by the First Amendment right to free speech.

Kelly said the defendants had many nonviolent ways to express their opinions about the 2020 presidential election.

“Defendants are not, as they argue, charged with anything like burning flags, wearing black armbands, or participating in mere sit-ins or protests,” Kelly wrote in his 43-page ruling. “Moreover, even if the charged conduct had some expressive aspect, it lost whatever First Amendment protection it may have had.”

Nordean, Biggs, Rehl and Donohoe were indicted in March on charges including conspiracy and obstructing an official proceeding. All four of them remain jailed while they await a trial scheduled for May.

Defense lawyers also argued that the obstruction charge doesn’t apply to their clients’ cases because Congress’ certification of the Electoral College vote was not an “official proceeding.” Kelly disagreed…

On the morning of Jan. 6, Proud Boys members met at the Washington Monument and marched to the Capitol before President Donald Trump finished addressing thousands of supporters near the White House.

Just before Congress convened a joint session to certify the election results, a group of Proud Boys followed a crowd of people who breached barriers at a pedestrian entrance to the Capitol grounds, the indictment says. Several Proud Boys also entered the Capitol building itself after the mob smashed windows and forced open doors.

More than 700 people have been charged with federal crimes related to the Capitol riot. At least 165 of them have pleaded guilty, mostly to misdemeanor offenses punishable by a maximum of six months’ imprisonment.

And that guy absolutely would have brought it (or other military long guns visible in his indictment photos) had DC not had strict open carry laws that would have prevented him and the countless other gunfuckers Trump collected from getting within a mile of the Capitol.

— zeddy (@Zeddary) December 28, 2021

Meanwhile, among the elite insurrectionists:

The 1/6 rally planners scheduled an aborted second rally that day at the Supreme Court. This little detail leaps out. https://t.co/dJcq3p3k1n pic.twitter.com/dtM7TwOk2V

— zeddy (@Zeddary) December 28, 2021

May seem trivial but evidence that event organizers arranged to transport key people much further closer to the Capitol…and then (the likely case) that transportation being used to assault the Capitol…could be significant to proving a conspiracy.

— zeddy (@Zeddary) December 28, 2021

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  1. 1.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    December 30, 2021 at 1:41 am

    Hmmm, who provided the golf carts?

    They know someone who owned a golf course?

  2. 2.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 30, 2021 at 1:44 am

    If you need a diversion, the docuseries about Monty Python on Netflix is a welcome distraction.

    Didn’t Ginni Thomas provide the funding to bus the seditionists in to Washington, D.C.?

  3. 3.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    December 30, 2021 at 1:46 am

    @HumboldtBlue: What, no continuing accounts of Sir Knight?

  4. 4.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 30, 2021 at 1:50 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    There was only one movie, sadly enough.

    I tried to recount in real time the saga of Brooke Shields ending up in Scotland where she shags Cary Elwes (who was really, really Scottish), the owner of a castle but who pretends to be the groundskeeper, but Potato and Omnes got bitchy and whingey, so I went and made popcorn instead.

  5. 5.

    Mai Naem mobile

    December 30, 2021 at 2:22 am

    @HumboldtBlue:  I thought you were live blogging a Hallmark movie because you used a different actress name yesterday, not Brooke Shields. You made me google the movie. Its a Netflix movie. The only movie I know of Brooke Shields is a really really 80s movie where she gets stuck on an island with some 80s teen heart throb. I doubt her acting skills have improved that much.

  6. 6.

    Mai Naem mobile

    December 30, 2021 at 2:25 am

    Judge Tim Kelly was appointed by TFG. One of his earlier appointments. Bet he’s been a bit of disappointment to TFG. He also ruled in favor of Jim Acosta when the WH pulled his press credentials. On the more important stuff, Kelly ruled to let Mulvaney stay on as temporary head of the CFTB after Rich Cordray had appointed somebody to replace him before he left to run Ohio governor.

  7. 7.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 30, 2021 at 2:38 am

    @HumboldtBlue: I’ll have to not add it to my list.

    Bitchy Potato

    Steak Au Poivre with Bitchin’ Potatoes

  8. 8.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 30, 2021 at 3:08 am

    @Mai Naem mobile:

    The blame lays with Omnes and Potato. They were haters of Brooke Shields who plays romance author Sophie Brown who kills off her fans’ favorite character and she flees in distress to a castle in Scotland where she meets a kindly black woman of African descent who just happens to manage an Inn but also a knitting circle.

    It’s very deep.

    There was also the abrupt coming-together of Brooke née Sophie, and Hal, the gardener (there were awkward kisses).

  9. 9.

    opiejeanne

    December 30, 2021 at 3:39 am

    I especially liked the statement he made, that the voter ID law had to be passed by all three branches of government, and the House and Senate.

  10. 10.

    prostratedragon

    December 30, 2021 at 3:40 am

    Do-di-do-bee-dooo …

  11. 11.

    opiejeanne

    December 30, 2021 at 3:43 am

    @HumboldtBlue: Last night’s thread is a blur, is Potato mr moshpotato? I remember Omnes asking you to stop, the rest of the evening … pfft!

  12. 12.

    NotMax

    December 30, 2021 at 3:47 am

    @HumboldtBlue

    Brooke Shields but the Mongol hordes.

    Or something.

    :)

  13. 13.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 30, 2021 at 4:06 am

    @opiejeanne: @NotMax:

    It was all very confusing and upsetting, and then I remembered I had beer.

    Now that I think of it, Max may have had a hand in the poo-pooing (there was a lot of that, as is this blog’s wont), and disdain for castle romance at Christmas time, so we struggle on, bringing the stories of life to the muddled… (at this point in a giant cartoon foot would drop down from above and kill the skit).

    And we’d all laugh, and laugh, and laugh.

  14. 14.

    NotMax

    December 30, 2021 at 4:09 am

    @HumboldtBlue

    Hey, I did no such thing Live and let blog, I say. Except doomposting.

    ;)

  15. 15.

    JWR

    December 30, 2021 at 4:58 am

    The other day, someone, (I forget exactly who, maybe Omnes), mentioned the TV show Route 66, so imagine my surprise when just a few days later I actually saw an episode. So I did my own research looked it up and found that it’s on every day on the newish MeTV+ network, (54.3 in the SoCal area.)

    ROUTE 66
    07:00 am – 08:00 am EST (4AM on the left coast)

    Yer all welcome, dammit. ;)

  16. 16.

    NotMax

    December 30, 2021 at 5:09 am

    @JWR

    All four seasons also currently streaming on Tubi, the Roku channel, and Prime via IMDb TV.

    BTW, MeTV began operations in 2003.

  17. 17.

    JWR

    December 30, 2021 at 5:58 am

    MeTV began operations in 2003

    Ah, but this isn’t regular MeTV, it’s MeTV + (plus), which has only been on for the last few months. Speaking of regular MeTV, I haven’t seen a Mr. MyPillowface ad in weeks. Must have something to do with Lindell’s  deep and abiding love of the holidays. And sweet baby Jeebus. Either that, or he’s finally found better uses for his (lawsuit) money. ;)

    Also, I asked you about my Roku 3. Still haven’t picked up an HDMI cable, so have yet to try it out. Maybe soon?

  18. 18.

    lowtechcyclist

    December 30, 2021 at 6:09 am

    @NotMax:  BTW, MeTV began operations in 2003.

    MeTV, huh? Now I’ve got “This is UTV! For you, the viewer!” from Firesign’s Don’t Crush that Dwarf, Hand Me the Pliers running through my head.

  19. 19.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    December 30, 2021 at 7:15 am

    Is Route 66 supposed to be an adaptation of Jack Kerouac and Neal Cassady?

  20. 20.

    SFAW

    December 30, 2021 at 7:17 am

    @NotMax:

    Except doomposting.

    I seem to recall there was that one time where you went after that guy for doing that non-doomposting thing about something or other.

    You know what I mean, and don’t pretend you don’t.

    At least, I think it was you. Probably.

  21. 21.

    SFAW

    December 30, 2021 at 7:19 am

    @David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch:

    Is Route 66 supposed to be adaptation of Jack Kerouac and Neal Cassady?

    Either them, or “Professor” Dean Moriarty and Sal Paradise.

    Or someone else. Like Rosencrantz and Guildenstern.

  22. 22.

    NotMax

    December 30, 2021 at 7:22 am

    @JWR

    Ah. Everything has the plus now. Soon we’ll see B-J+.

    HDMI cables widely available. Even hardware stores now carry them as a matter of course. One wasn’t tucked inside in the box? Only suggestion would be not to go for a bargain basement price. Nothing necessarily wrong with off-brands but if it doesn’t seem near the price range of other brands, be wary.

  23. 23.

    NotMax

    December 30, 2021 at 7:25 am

    @SFAW

    No recollection of it.

  24. 24.

    SFAW

    December 30, 2021 at 7:34 am

    @NotMax:

    Yeah, you say that now, but …

    Just don’t do it again.

  25. 25.

    Geminid

    December 30, 2021 at 7:54 am

    @SFAW  A type “of people on the Left”:

    @David Sirota, “Shitlibs will never save us from fascism or climate change. Pass it on.” Dec. 27 2021.

    I was talking about people like that the other day, not people like you.

    Now I will have a piece of cheddar to go with my whine..

  26. 26.

    SFAW

    December 30, 2021 at 8:33 am

    @Geminid:

    not people like you.

    There’s no people like me. And the world is lucky for that.

    As for the other stuff — not following your banter, Squiffy.

  27. 27.

    JWR

    December 30, 2021 at 9:14 am

    @NotMax: Heh. Or B-J After Dark (++ plus ungood.)

    Thanks for the cable advice. I usually go for middle end, semi-pro stuff, (for audio purposes), so I should be okay.

  28. 28.

    Geminid

    December 30, 2021 at 10:00 am

    @SFAW: This was from last Thursday’s morning thread. Another commenter was  complaining about the lack of support from the left for President Biden’s policies, and I replied that some people on the left were emotionally and intellectually opposed to the success of a liberal administration. You came back that while you appreciated some of my comments, you were “really tired” of my “liberal/left bashing.” Pretty soon another person agreed that this “ironically” was a one track approach. So, being thin skinned as I am, I’m saying that you misread my comment.

  29. 29.

    SFAW

    December 30, 2021 at 10:47 am

    @Geminid:

    Got it, thanks for explaining. I remember the discussion, but have (fortunately) done a brain-wipe for most of the details.

    I just think there needs to be a different term, like “Rose Twitter” or some such, for the (allegedly*) left-side Dem-haters/Biden-haters.

    * “Allegedly” == they think they’re left-side, but it’s not completely clear they really are

  30. 30.

    Mike in Pasadena

    December 30, 2021 at 12:22 pm

    On a thread two days ago I warned courts and judges that they are next, with big targets on their backs if the insurrectionists have their way. Fellow commenter assured me,”oh, no, they are protected, they (judges) have security.” As more info comes out, we learn the Supremes were next on the list with another “rally” planned there.  Yeah, “security.” Tell that to Congress and JFK.

  31. 31.

    Geminid

    December 30, 2021 at 12:42 pm

    @SFAW: This would certainly lessen confusion. Right now the same person might be described or describe themselves as Left, Liberal, or Progressive. The “right” side of the Democratic Congressional Caucus might be described as Moderate, or more invidiously as Centrist or Conservative. My own political taxonomy has the 110 or so members of the New Democrat and Blue Dog Caucuses classified as Moderates, and the 95 Progressive Caucus members as Liberals. But those distinctions are sometimes just a matter of branding. If you compared the thirty most liberal New Democrats to the thirty most moderate Progressives you might find little actual difference, and I think the differences between these two wings of the party tend to be exaggerated.

    Then there is Illinois Congresswoman Lauren Underwood, who accomplishes a lot without joining any of the ideological caucuses.

    But our exchange is another reminder that I need need to choose words carefully, especially labels.

  32. 32.

    SFAW

    December 30, 2021 at 12:56 pm

    @Geminid:

    But our exchange is another reminder that I need need to choose words carefully, especially labels.

    WTF do you mean by THAT????

    No, no — I’m kidding. [I’ve been told my kidding is not always perceived as such.]

     

    Thanks for the further explanation. And have a Happy New Year!

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