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Painting of Steve by Avalune!

What a handsome boy!

I let you know on Sunday that we would  be rolling out links to some of the classic posts over the course of the week.

We’ll be naked mopping, losing the mustard, skull-fucking kittens, dining on tire rims and anthrax, faxing credenzas, reaching peak wing nut… Oh wait, that last one didn’t turn out as expected.

Well, here’s the next installment.

Tire Rims and Anthrax
Skull-fucking A Kitten
Faxing Credenzas / The Helicopters Are Laughing
Faxing Credenzas Explained

Peak Wingnut
Peak Wingnut by John Cole
Peak Cole by Tim F.

The Subaru Saga
Another Day In Paradise
Still In The Field
Please Get My Fucking Subaru Out of the Field

And I’ll look up first posts for another 10 BJ peeps, first come, first served!

Open thread.

 

Reader Interactions

190Comments

  1. 1.

    guachi

    Me, please. I’m interested in how long it took me to finally comment. And if my comment wasn’t embarrassing.

  3. 3.

    JPL

    I’ve been on grandma duty, so if you have already researched mine, just let me know.   jl, JL with same email.

    thanks

  5. 5.

    WaterGirl

    There are some great comments in the skull fuck a kitten thread.  It was 2007 and Cole was already tired of the election cycle.  I wish this commenter would come back, so much to love in this comment.

    Dreggas

    BTW if this is all it takes to get the gooper nomination I hereby declare that not only am i unopposed to knifing people in the thigh but I will also participate in a raucous round of seal clubbing after which I will skull fuck 5 kittens in a row to celebrate while biting the heads off of smalle furry forest creatures and bathing in their blood.

    I however promise I will not be caught harrassing young men on the internet, tapping my foot in a restroom or getting my meth on while getting a “massage”.

  7. 7.

    guachi

    I don’t expect my first comment to be that good. I consider myself a “not valued commenter”, though I did have one comment so good that some regular said it should be a rotating tag. I appreciated that.

  10. 10.

    WaterGirl

    @Baud: I didn’t either!  14 or 15 years later and Rudy just won’t go away.  well, actually, i haven’t heard a peep out of him lately.  Hmm.  It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

  17. 17.

    WaterGirl

    @guachi:

    Unless you changed your email address at some point, your first comment was Feb 2, 2011.

    On a DougJ post announcing that Open Left is closing.

    I’ll just echo Console – Bowers was the only one on Openleft I liked to read, so I stopped making it a daily pitstop. A multi-person blog really needs consistent quality as I don’t really want to have to religiously scan the author before reading a post.

  19. 19.

    Roger Moore

    @Baud:

    Yes, he been strangely quiet.

    Maybe he’s smart enough to listen to his lawyer.  Oh, who am I kidding.  It’s far more likely that he’s trying to pitch a fit, but nobody will give him a platform.

  21. 21.

    piratedan

    checking in on my first post request….

    if you would be so kind to fax it to my credenza, with a credenza or even credenzaless….

  24. 24.

    Edmund Dantes

    The Subaru saga was an all time great.

    I think my other favorite is the story of Lilly and the broken shoulder (?). He was carrying her and fell? I forget it’s been so long.

  26. 26.

    guachi

    @WaterGirl: Ha!

    A post that is still true today and applies to Balloon-Juice. When all the front pagers are good I just start reading and then guess who the author is. Which is easy here as they all have a definite style.

    Feb 11, 2011? I’d been reading BJ regularly for probably four years by that point.

  28. 28.

    dexwood

    Now It Can Be Told / Faxing Credenzas was my introduction to Balloon Juice. Oh, man, I was hooked.

  29. 29.

    evap

    I have used the “tire rims and anthrax” story many times.  This may be my all-time favorite post!

  30. 30.

    WaterGirl

    @debbie:

    I think you need a palate cleanser.  Your first comment was Feb 5, 2009 on John Cole’s post Obama Fiddled While These People Starved.  Always helping!

    Also, if you itemize deductions, you can include medical expenses. For many people without insurance, that can be a substantial amount.

    The next was May 21, 2009 on Good news for Mitt Romney.  You replied to a question from Joanne:

    Is Andrew the kid who was mugging when his father was making a speech a long while ago? Rudy was married to Donna Hanover at the time. He was an obnoxious kid then and if he’s the one I remember, it looks he didn’t grow out of it.

    Your reply:

    Yes, it was during his father’s inauguration speech as Mayor. Even better was the SNL take-off with Chris Farley playing Andrew.

    So you can stop cringing about that other comment now. :-)

  32. 32.

    debbie

    People were wondering about DeathSanti’s disappearance a couple of days ago. Those who had COVID on their Bingo cards, claim your prize!

    Here is a second angle of Ron DeSantis struggling with breathing problems during his event today. The longer this clip goes on, the worse it gets. pic.twitter.com/J9Jr55x8Py
    — MeidasTouch.com (@MeidasTouch) January 5, 2022

  33. 33.

    Scout211

    @WaterGirl:

    Wow. That was a blast from the past, featuring an “internet protocol” from the way back machine:  Remember when posters demanded they get a “hat tip” for being the first person to post a piece of news that a front pager or any blogger picked up? I always thought that was kind of silly. But it was a thing. And now it’s really not a thing, thank  goodness.

  36. 36.

    guachi

    Comment #4 on Cole’s Peak Wingnut post. So, so true:

    Dennis – SGMM
    OCTOBER 13, 2008 AT 9:10 PM

    I wouldn’t count them out so soon. Should Obama be elected they will create a cottage industry of tying his every decision to some secret agenda involving Socialism, the Islamofascist hordes or black supremacy.

  37. 37.

    MomSense

    Does anyone else remember the obnoxious commenter who used to correct us about our gun terminology and other shit?  He used to post from some kind of duck tent set up thing while hunting.

  39. 39.

    Roger Moore

    @guachi:

    IIRC, Cole was admitting he might have been overly optimistic by the end of the thread.  It just goes to show that the old motto for the blog “Consistently wrong since 2002” was thoroughly earned.

  41. 41.

    WaterGirl

    @JPL:

    Your first comment was on Jan 26, 2009 in a Tim F post called Clinton Post The Third.

    I actually feel the same way as John about the Clinton’s but I can afford to cast my vote in November for none of the above since I live in GA. If I lived in a state such as PA, I would vote for the democratic nominee.

  42. 42.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    Much like the Crazification Factor in terms of never-ending applicability, two things I constantly use from here:

    Cleek’s Law
    Tire Rims and Anthrax

  43. 43.

    The Dangerman

    Sure, me too. Same email (it’s a burner; I have no idea what the password is any longer).

    [email protected]

    I’ll be extremely disappointed if I didn’t drop multiple 4 letter words or maybe a 12 letter one. Cmon, boxcars.

  45. 45.

    Yarrow

    WaterGirl, I don’t know if you’re doing posts with comments from favorite commenters, but this comment from 2017  by efgoldman is still one of my favorites. It’s about his granddaughter turning FOUR. He loved her so much and it’s just palpable in his comment. Excerpt:

    TODAY WE ARE FOUR
    Mommy and Daddy found a place to have the party so Mommy doesn’t have to do it at home. They have games and punch and cupcakes! All my friends said they’d come. The cat has to stay home.

    There’s a lot more if you click through. RIP.

  51. 51.

    Almost Retired

    I wanna know what ultimately happened with “Michael Gass” from the credenza threat.  Did he provide John Cole complete documentation of his multiple he-man law enforcement accomplishments in condensation-proof lamination?  Was he found to be a front-pager trolling for shits and giggles?

    The trolls seemed to be more ubiquitous (and obvious) in these historic threads, although maybe they’re still here and my troll-dar is not very sophisticated.

  55. 55.

    Yarrow

    @WaterGirl:  I don’t know if I’ll be around when that thread happens. My schedule, as usual, is extremely chaotic. What I really would like is if someone could find a way to get that comment to his wife, daughter and granddaughter. What a treasure for them that would be.

  56. 56.

    cain

    @Yarrow:

    Damn I must have missed that post – egoldman yelled at me once – lol. I can’t remember someone maybe it was Stuck beat him with a stick.

    Anyways, the cat’s name was Guybrush which is a CLEAR reference to Guybrush Threepwood!

  57. 57.

    MomSense

    @Yarrow:

    ?

    I think about his wife sometimes, too. I remember EF said she watched all the cheesy Christmas movies.  At some point during TFG’s maladministration I felt so overwhelmed with everything T that I started watching them. Made me think of them.

  58. 58.

    cain

    skullfuck a kitten was a popular saying and I remember when John mentioned that if you googled it you get balloon-juice as the only place that it shows up. haha!

  59. 59.

    schrodingers_cat

    I lurked for a longtime before I first commented. I think my first comment was in the post about Tunch and the furminator. Which I immediately bought for my ginger kitteh with copious floof.

  60. 60.

    WaterGirl

    @mali muso:

    Your first comment was on June 20, 2014 in a soccer thread by Randinho Italy v Costa Rica Open Thread!

    (longtime lurker, first time commenter)

    After watching that first surprise Costa Rica win at the home of Tico friends who were ECSTATIC at the results, I have an emotional attachment for the team. But then again, my grandparents were Italian immigrants, so a win by Italy would suit me as well. Really just hoping to see a match that is more exciting than last night’s crapfest between Greece and Japan…

  62. 62.

    cain

    BTW the naked mop thing – I thought  remembered different. Didn’t John strip naked to mop the house because it was goddam humid that he was trying to stay cool as well????

  64. 64.

    Another Scott

    I had forgotten about balloon boy and Mr. Gass and his credentials. “Gass” appears 137 times in that thread – he was busy! Now I don’t feel so bad about commenting more than 10 times in a long thread…

    Thanks. :-)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  65. 65.

    WaterGirl

    @Almost Retired: DougJ had a reputation for trolling on Bj under assumed names, but I have no idea.

    Were you here for faxing the credenzas? i haven’t re-read that post yet, but it was hysterical in real time.

  66. 66.

    Mike E

    I really enjoyed the calm, collegial backdrop to the DougJ interview of JGC, where “skullfcuk a kitten” can be casually dropped in conversation with no warning lights going off or circuit breakers tripping. And John kinda reminded me a little bit of Stephen Jay Gould…if he ever worked blue, heh.

  73. 73.

    dkinPa

    Just wanted to say that the painting of Steve is gorgeous!  Also, as someone who came late to this blog, I am enjoying the classics — especially enjoyed the story of how John fell in love with Lily!

  78. 78.

    WaterGirl

    @dkinPa: I love that painting of Steve, too!

    Your comment reminded me that in today’s post I forgot the notation that the artwork was done by Avalune.  I just remedied that.

    Avalune is so talented!

  80. 80.

    WaterGirl

    Apropos of nothing, I guess, except maybe leopards eating faces…

    Here’s a photo of Tucker’s Christmas present.  He just finished plucking the eyes out and eating the face.  That’s apparently the best part!  :-)

    More Classics 1

  82. 82.

    Another Scott

    @JPL:  It doesn’t sound like DougJ to me. I wasn’t here, I don’t think, when he was trolling the place, but I do remember him trolling the WP (?) comments and getting some writer there to agree with his astute observation… There’s a slyness to the writing that was missing with Mr. Gass, IMO. (Plus Gass gave names of other places where he posted.)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  88. 88.

    piratedan

    @WaterGirl: aye, it was a Sarah Palin commentary regarding one of her tweets where she illustrated just how ill-equipped she was for any job and emblematic as a harbinger of what the GOP was turning into

     

    and ty!

  92. 92.

    mali muso

    @WaterGirl: Woohoo!  Thanks for blast from the past.  I knew I delurked during a World Cup, but couldn’t remember which one. I think I started lurking somewhere between 2009 and 2010, so it only took me 4 years to get the courage to post. lol

  96. 96.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    The “helicopters and credenza” thing (with condensation!) was one of the gnarlier topics I researched for the anniversary. I couldn’t find some specific things that I “knew” were true. I ended up searching for my later explanation from when the topic came up a few years later, although I’m not completely satisfied with that either.

    I’ll just say that it was one of those epochal blog events where people’s memories quickly overtook the reality. You have to pick through several days’ threads to get all of the reverberations.

    I think Omnes accurately likened it to the line from The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance: “This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.”

  97. 97.

    The Dangerman

    I’m actually a bit afraid of my first post as it was during the Obama/Hillary days.

  98. 98.

    UncleEbeneezer

    “Spanish police had a rather unusual start to the year when they were forced to see in 2022 by breaking up a New Year’s Eve orgy that breached local Covid restrictions.

    According to Spanish paper El Mundo, officers discovered more than 50 people getting to know each other rather well at a property in Llica d’Amunt near Barcelona, after two of the invited guests knocked on the door of the wrong house, causing the man living there to raise the alarm and gave the game away.

    People were having sex upstairs in a property and the party was reportedly organised by a group of Americans who allegedly hired prostitutes to attend.”

  103. 103.

    WaterGirl

    @The Dangerman: Your first comment was on my birthday, June 13, 2008.  On a John Cole Open Thread.

    Not a Pandora guy, but you can find that track on FineTune.com.

    The Dangerman diggs them FineTunes.

    fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

    Major points for speaking of yourself in the third person!  :-)

    I added the part in italics so you wouldn’t be disappointed at no swear words.

  104. 104.

    guachi

    I’m fascinated by how many comments first comments are about generally mundane things. Just jumping in and adding to the conversation.

  105. 105.

    ThresherK

    I’ve been laughing harder at Please Get My Fucking Subaru Out of the Field than I ought to over something that’s nine years old. The link title alone set me off.

  107. 107.

    WaterGirl

    @guachi: When you’re smart, that’s how you do it.  You just ease in with a comment that doesn’t make you feel too vulnerable, and before you know it people know your nym and then you’re maybe a bit looser.

  115. 115.

    WaterGirl

    @Scamp Dog:

    Your first comment was on Jan 17, 2010 in a DougJ post called Junkies only.

    Somerby had a few choice words to say on Gail Collin’s vacuous column about the MA Senate race in his Thursday Howler. On Friday he just said he had no idea how the race would turn out.

    It does kind of boggle the mind that someone on the internet doesn’t invent an instant opinion on the spot–most of us would be ready to go on a tear on the topic.

  118. 118.

    WaterGirl

    i am reading the middle Subaru post now.  i know i said this earlier but Cole is such a great story-teller.

    edit: holy fuck, i forgot how serious the accident was.  but the beginning and the end of the post are both still funny.

  119. 119.

    Argiope

    @WaterGirl: It’s a pack of snarling jackals…probably best to kind of sneak in slowly at the edges, roll over and show a soft underbelly at first to make friends. Pretty sure that’s how I did it.

  121. 121.

    Argiope

    @WaterGirl: ​
      It’s a pack of snarling jackals…probably best to kind of sneak in slowly at the edges, roll over and show a soft underbelly at first to make friends. Pretty sure that’s how I did it.

  124. 124.

    WaterGirl

    @2liberal: I didn’t forget you, it just seemed like maybe people who had asked weren’t still on the thread, so i switched to the people who chimed in to say they were still here.  And then took one person who had asked in an earlier thread this week, but was not one of there first 10.

    There was a method to my madness.  You’re up next.

  127. 127.

    WaterGirl

    @2liberal:

    Your first comment was in this post No Nipple Uncovered on May 1, 2010.

    LINK

    or

    http://tinyurl.com/26qnypd

    ow, it appears, he may be preparing a legal assault on an embattled proponent of global warming theory who used to teach at the University of Virginia, Michael Mann.In papers sent to UVA April 23, Cuccinelli’s office commands the university to produce a sweeping swath of documents relating to Mann’s receipt of nearly half a million dollars in state grant-funded climate research conducted while Mann— now director of the Earth System Science Center at Penn State— was at UVA between 1999 and 2005.If Cuccinelli succeeds in finding a smoking gun like the purloined emails that led to the international scandal dubbed Climategate, Cuccinelli could seek the return of all the research money, legal fees, and trebled damages.

    this guy is having some fun. too bad he is holding public office. a dubya clone.

  130. 130.

    Omnes Omnibus

    I am glad to see that my memory of being in early on the credenza thing but not at the beginning was accurate.

  131. 131.

    Argiope

    @WaterGirl: Sorry for the double post.  Visual composition window wasn’t working in Firefox (on a Mac, Firefox version 95.0.2 (64-bit), with a keyboard covered by a kind of frayed rainbow-colored silicone thingy to keep me from spilling various liquids into it. TMI?) When I wrote the comment in text mode and hit submit it just kept spinning….so I abandoned Firefox and went to chrome.  Firefox apparently did eventually decide to work after all.  Crafty little browser….it just made me THINK it was sleeping.

  132. 132.

    Baud

    @WaterGirl:

    Thanks. Fascinating. Aside from the reference to Obama, I could have made similar comments last week.

    I haven’t grown at all.

    ETA: Why mess with perfection?

  133. 133.

    WaterGirl

    @Scamp Dog: Yep, i searched for Scamp Dog instead of your email, and you had a different email address early on.

    Quote of the Day has your first comment on Aug 6, 2008.

    You replied to this, probably from up top in the post itself/

    Doubtful, and even if it is significant, how do you magically get these tires inflated to the proper psi ?

    You replied with this;

    You go to this really, really high-tech place called a gas station, and they have this amazing device that will add air to your tires! And then you check it with a pressure gage! If you can’t afford one, see your local Republican party for a freebie, they’ll take care of you…

  135. 135.

    mrmoshpotato

    Ahh the Subaru Saga… :)

    It’s currently being a windy bastard in the Windy City.  And it’s 14 degrees outside.

  140. 140.

    WaterGirl

    Okay, I have looked up my last “first comment” for the night.

    If I didn’t get to you, be sure to show up in the next anniversary post and mention that you asked in this one.

  141. 141.

    cope

    @WaterGirl: Our terrier Jesse has eviscerated every stuffed dog toy and three comfy dog beds in the year we’ve had her. If there’s a squeaky thing in it, she rips out out in a violent biting and shaking attack that brings to mind the bad Indiana Jones movie.

    She treasures these trophies and carries them around for long periods of time. I dread the thought of her ever getting her sharp little teeth into a small, living animal.

  145. 145.

    danielx

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Fifteen degrees in Indianapolis and high wind….time to keep space heater on low in the garage so the damn refrigerator will keep refrigerating.

  149. 149.

    WaterGirl

    @Origuy: We thought that might be too hard since things were pretty grim at the beginning, so that wasn’t in the plan.  Though maybe we could link to a couple of the happy Walter posts and then people could find the others on their own.

  150. 150.

    danielx

    @WaterGirl:

    I certainly am, although…

    …but as I read things, the hey day of modern wingnuttia may have passed.

    Cole’s powers of prognostication are barely better than mine.

    But his and my error were the same, a mistaken assumption. Peak wingnut will never be reached as long as there is a wingnut mediaverse to keep the cauldron boiling in perpetuity,  sort of like a nuclear reactor. Once a self-sustaining reaction has been achieved, it doesn’t go out until it runs out of fools – er, fuel.

  155. 155.

    frosty

    @WaterGirl: The links are great. So many commenters have left though! On one The Moar You Know was the only nym I recognized from the current crew of jackals.

    Did you get a chance to look up my first comment? You may have posted it in a thread with 200+ comments that I didn’t get to. (sorry for the nagging)

    ETA There are some great baked goods in the pie filter tonight. Holiday related!!

  156. 156.

    WaterGirl

    @frosty: You’re not nagging!

    I’m not keeping a running list, though.  But anyone who asks again  in a new post makes it into the 10 for that post, unless they are a total straggler! :-)

    So jump in on the next thread and I’ll make sure to get it done.

  160. 160.

    frosty

    @WaterGirl: 12th Night, whenever that is, ends the holidays? I usually take the lights down a week after New Year’s so that seems like a good time to tidy up the pie filter.

  161. 161.

    Ken

    @WaterGirl: Thanks for the reminders about the holiday pics in the pie filter.  I suppose I have to take those out soon?

    Holiday pics?  I should pie people, I’m clearly not getting the full benefit of this nearly-top-10000 blog.

    As for removing the pictures, remember that Scrooge pledged to keep Christmas in his heart every day of the year. Should we not aspire to the same lofty goal?

  162. 162.

    danielx

    Ooooh! College football national championship IN THE HOUSE this weekend! With free concerts and many other opportunities to spread disease, not to mention the city being infested with rich shitheads from Georgia and Alabama! What’s not to like?

  163. 163.

    geg6

    I was there for the whole credenza, condensation and laughing helicopters saga which lasted several days.  It was the most epic thing ever on the tubes.  Although I had been around BJ quite a while by that time, that whole thing is what made me fall in love with this place forever.  Start to finish, commenter after commenter, I never laughed so hard and so long in my life.

  164. 164.

    Jean

    I remember the Subaru saga, the credenza and the laughing helicopters.  The credenza and helicopters, I know, made me laugh out loud but I couldn’t for the life of me say what the context was or why it was so funny.  Was it some troll trying to make himself important or superior?  The commentary just became crazier and crazier.  I’ll go back and read them.  Thanks, WaterGirl.

  167. 167.

    danielx

    @Poe Larity:
    All in a good cause, better than a lot of other gatherings of which I have heard and read.

    If you are going to spread a virus (of whatever sort), do it with feeling.​

  168. 168.

    zhena gogolia

    OMG, I’ve dipped into the “helicopters” thread and my husband can’t figure out why I’m crying with laughter.

  169. 169.

    Suzanne

    Spawn the Youngest is my uber-cuddler. This pandemic has been going on for 80% of her life, so she is used to having her people nearby to love on her constantly. Not going to lie: this part is a bright spot.

  173. 173.

    NotMax

    First time since before Xmas with enough days of sun (2) to sufficiently dry out the ground in order to do mowing of the entire property. Grass in places was between knee high and thigh high. 2½ hours on the riding mower, now feel as if I ran a triple marathon – in work boots.

  174. 174.

    danielx

    @NotMax:

    It’s 14 degrees with a 30 mph wind from the northwest here and I damn near froze my fingers off using chainsaw on fallen limbs earlier. Fuck you and the riding mower you rode in on.

  175. 175.

    mrmoshpotato

    @NotMax:

    2½ hours on the riding mower, now feel as if I ran a triple marathon – in work boots. 

    How do you think the rider mower feels?!

  177. 177.

    Poe Larity

    Looks like Brandon Brown flip-flopped on wanting to monetize that meme, but Nascar noped:

    NASCAR has rejected a sponsorship deal between driver Brandon Brown and the cryptocurrency LGBCoin, according to multiple news reports.

    Brown’s racing team, Brandonbilt Motorsports, had prematurely announced last week that LGBCoin — a reference to the anti-Biden chant — would be its 2022 sponsor for the second-tier NASCAR Xfinity Series.

  178. 178.

    James E Powell

    @WaterGirl:

    Are any of you guys who wanted your first comments still here?

    Yes, I am. And I am only posting this comment so that I can reference it in the next anniversary thread, as you mentioned.

  182. 182.

    Jean

    @zhena gogolia: I reread the whole thread and couldn’t believe how funny all the commenters were in response to Gass.  I forgot about Brick Oven Bill and noted so many others who were popular at the time (General Stuck) and many who still are.  I didn’t see where “credenza” showed up unless it was, as someone noted, a riff on misspelling of “credential,” making fun of Gass’s  misspelling of  “condescension” as “condensation.”People just started riffing off the theme–“jazz commenting” as someone said.

  183. 183.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    David Axelrod @davidaxelrod
    “There can be no soft-pedaling what happened and no absolution for those who planned, encouraged and aided the attempt to overthrow our democracy. Love of country demands nothing less,” writes
    @KarlRove

    in an oped for the WSJ, so no link. Judging from the comments and replies to Axelrod, Rove is Rove, and tries a little “Democrats are being mean”. But Karl “Turd Blossom” Rove– cause I never forget and infrequently forgive–  has now spoken up more than anyone named Bush.

  185. 185.

    Sebastian

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I have a hunch it’s on purpose. Coming out openly would only lead to polarization.

    I read a while ago that there were concerted activities by Obama and GWB (&Co). Obama was responsible for our allies and W (and his gang) for within US.

    With that in mind, look again at Liz Cheney, Karl Rove, and William Kristol.

    Bill has created a bona fide anti-Trump NRA named RAP (Republican Accountability Project) with ratings for politicians and all that jazz and they are running a brutal ad on FOX on 6 JAN during every commercial break, incl. Tucker and Hannity.

    https://twitter.com/accountablegop/status/1478548703673827331

     

    EDIT: Apparently also on Fox and Friends. This is a Cheney double-barrel.

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    CaseyL

    I do love that portrait of Steve.  It captures him so well.

    I’m not all agog to see my first comment.  I think I remember it.  I didn’t know John yet, and just tore into him about something  he said (regarding welfare, I think).  Gah.

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    Miss Bianca

    @WaterGirl: Late to the thread, but YES.

    Can’t wait to revisit the Subaru saga and of course, faxing the credenza, a thread (multiple threads?) I remember reading and just being in agony from laughing so hard. Litlebritdifferent (spelling? ack!) was en fuego in that thread, as I recall, trolling the troll like nobody’s business.

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    Primer Gray (formerly Yet Another Jeff)

    @WaterGirl: Sparrows and curtain rods…I use that one a lot…up there with Tire Rims and Anthrax for evergreen usefulness.

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