Is it a distortion caused by my media bubble, or are the Beltway gossip columnists collectively moving on from Trump?
There’s a piece in Vanity Fair about Pence’s political resurrection (despite having been lightly killed politically by Trump) and his willingness to run in 2024 as a “stealth frontrunner” even if Trump is in the race. There’s a CNN article about Trump’s inability to get Republicans to “disavow” Mitch McConnell and how that shows the limits of his power. There are a few “let’s you and him fight”-flavored pieces about Trump calling DeSantis “gutless” on the down-low. That’s all just from today.
Maybe they’re preemptively scrubbing the Republican Party’s Trumpism stains in anticipation of the upcoming election. Maybe I’m imagining things. Just wondered if anyone else had noticed a trend.
Open thread!
germy
debbie
Maybe the better ones are moving on. Already, I’ve heard three separate NPR reports on Steve Inskeep’s “interview” with TFG, who hung up on him after nine minutes.
Old School
Maybe. When they were teasing the “Trump hangs up on NPR” interview yesterday, I assumed I’d be reading about it a lot today. But it hasn’t been much of a story from what I can tell.
Edit: @debbie: Except on NPR, I guess.
germy
They want a Republican. Just not that Republican, apparently.
West of the Rockies
Pence is only mostly dead!
debbie
This comes as a pleasant surprise to this Buckeye:
Old Man Shadow
I think the MSM has been desperately clinging to the notion that the GOP is just fine and Trump is the problem and they would very much like Trump and the MAGAts to go away and stay quiet so they can sell that fiction easier to the masses and go back to focusing exclusively on “how is Joe Biden failing you today” or “Kamala Harris is so shrill” or “we asked this diner in Ohio what they think of Critical Race Theory” stories.
Chetan Murthy
And it seems like TFG is losing a step, extolling vaccines and such. [RWNJ] Electoral lunacy, that. Maybe he really does have dementia.
West of the Rockies
@debbie:
The Post had a prominent write-up on it as well, also, too.
Old Man Shadow
@Chetan Murthy: I think he’s more angry that people aren’t giving him credit for inventing the vaccines.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@debbie:
Can’t wait to see DeWine’s reaction. He was defending the Redistricting Commission’s actions
Betty Cracker
Just read a crazy Florida road rage shoot-out story in The Orlando Sentinel. A board member for the state’s pension fund was allegedly shot and killed after he escalated a traffic accident dispute by ramming the other car and opening fire on its driver:
Florida, where even the Prius drivers are packing!
Chetan Murthy
@Old Man Shadow: Yep, and that’s why I think he’s lost a step. Wilhoit’s Law demands that The Base be unconstrained, unbound. And pushing vaccines on them is not that. It’s one thing to go slagging your opponents; but if you do it by pissing-off your base …..
Ten Bears
Posted at my house three days ago: it’s coming; they’re gonna’ turn on him and it’s gonna’ be ug-ly …
Ken
@West of the Rockies: I was going to say “He’s pining for the fjords”, but that works too.
feebog
Trumps hold on the GOP is already slipping. This latest kerfluffle with Sen. Rounds is illustrative. Note the Turtle came to Rounds defense. As did Romney. You’ll know it’s over when the gutless Susan Collins breaks it off.
Barry
Remember that we also just saw two pair of allegedly high-functioning Beltway genius’ talk about Clinton and Elizabeth Cheney being on the 2024 presidential ticket.
I would say that it’s like a discussion in a college dorm room at 2 AM Sunday morning, when everybody is both drunk and stone, but those discussions are far more intelligent.
CaseyL
GOPers don’t need Trump. They got what they wanted: SCOTUS, monstrous tax cuts for the wealthy, and a hollowed out Executive Branch. They really don’t need the crazy. I think what they’d like is an authoritarian Unified Executive that will be more… palatable, shall we say, to a majority of voters.
Pence fits. White, male, Christian paleocon, and not noticeably insane.
trollhattan
This LGM post about Dick Durbin using his most un-Democrat tungsten spine in telling Republicans to fuck right the hell off trying to resurrect the Judiciary blue slip “rule” they abandoned while they were in charge, and confirming Biden’s judgeship nominations is the best thing you’ll read today. Marsha Blackburn is sad, yo!
germy
@Betty Cracker:
“An armed society is a civil society.”
Jeffro
I think both the media and establishment Republicans (but I repeat myself) are reading the writing on the wall with the Jan 6 commission and all the other investigations of trumpov & Co that are going on. They are straining to find ways to assert the obvious: the former guy is an utter crook, complete imbecile, election loser, and soon, defendant.
I love that they think he’ll go quietly.
Ken
@Betty Cracker: You might want to audit the state pension fund. I’m not saying all the money’s been spent on cocaine, but it’s not inconsistent with that report.
StringOnAStick
@Betty Cracker:
I guess I’m gonna have to up my game.
debbie
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
I’d also like to know how the son voted on the decision.
trollhattan
@feebog:
Anybody see today’s Furrow Forecast? Trench? Wheat field? Arroyo?
Mike in NC
Jennifer Rubin has written that Pence’s lack of personality is a big handicap.
debbie
@Ten Bears:
Remember that video of the crowd chasing and cornering Quadaffi? Not that I’m rooting for injuries…
Lofgren
Too good to be true.
But then I’ve always thought that whatever brings Trump down will seem totally random. Could be getting booed for getting his booster by his own followers has given a few people the window to try to steal his spotlight. Getting booed is the new wrinkle here, if anything. It’s not as though there haven’t been periodic attempts to swivel away from Trump. The pundits and politicians won’t be the ones who decide when that happens.
Matt McIrvin
Is it me or does this seem like a ridiculous fantasy based on neverTrumper-conservative wishcasting?
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Betty Cracker:
Jesus. Does the governor also appoint the members to the state pension fund board?
trollhattan
@Lofgren: I vote for Melanie with a pillow and 20 oz framing hammer. In the libary[sic].
lollipopguild
@Old Man Shadow: Trump wants to be Pro vaccine and anti-vaccine at the same time and he does not understand why he cannot be both.
Ken
@Lofgren: As others have said, one sure sign he’s out will be when the Fox chyron reads “FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP (D) WAS….”
Urza
@Betty Cracker: Why are people ok with these kinds of things happening so often? Sorta rhetorical.
trollhattan
@Matt McIrvin: ”Please clap” comes to mind.
Pence doesn’t engage in projection, he’s the screen.
trollhattan
@Ken: I laff because you damn well know it’s coming.
NotMax
There’s no one left but thee and me
And we’re not sure of thee
– Chad Mitchell Trio, “The John Birch Society”
Scout211
Yes to all of that, Betty. But to me it seems less likely that the media is driving this turn away from Trump and more likely that this is a planned slow-walk by the leaders of the Republican Party. These media people only print what they have been told by their sources.
Starting with Mike Rounds’ “stunning statement” that Trump lost. Trump was triggered and tried to bully Rounds. Republican colleagues of Mike Rounds “came to his defense.” It’s like it was planned. And I think it was.
I predict that we will see a slow and steady stream of these stories making Trump look weak, triggering his attack of Republicans and then Republican colleagues circling the wagons to keep Trump out. It will slowly make Trump more and more of an outsider. And loser.
Or I could be completely wrong. Again.
VOR
@Old Man Shadow: Agreed. I think there are plenty of media people who want to pretend Trump is the problem, not just a symptom of any underlying condition. If Trump went away the right-leaning media could get back to business as usual.
Except IMHO this is completely wrong. Trump did research and figured out which way the GOP base was going. They wanted conspiracies, he gave them conspiracies. They wanted saying the quiet part loud, he did that too.
randy khan
The press does love its intraparty fights, and maybe this is a sign they’re tired of the Dem fights, which honestly are pretty boring because nobody really calls anyone nasty names.
Hunter Gathers
They are greasing the skids for a Trump led fascist government. These people are all upper class twits who want their low tax rates permanently locked in and are also wondering if fascism will knock a few minutes off their Door Dash delivery times. They know that Trump being off major social media means ‘he’s gone, hurrah!’ to brain dead moderates and centrists.
If they convince all the dullards in the middle that Trump’s upcoming run in 2024 is all Biden’s fault -‘Trump was gone, but BLM/CRT/inflation/2020 school closures/whatever the moral outrage of the moment is brought him back and it’s all Biden’s fault so I’m being forced to vote for Trump’, then we’re Hungary – a white trash Christian fascist country with low upper class tax rates.
It’s what the upper class wants and they are doing everything they can to bring it about.
Geminid
@debbie: I will be interested to see how Trump’s rally in Florence, Arizona goes this Saturday. I think he intends to start his comeback there, and the unusual NPR interview was part of the preparation. Joe Biden has been hitting Trump hard this past week, and Trump will want to come out swinging. He could end up punching himself, though.
Ruckus
@Chetan Murthy:
MAYBE? It may not be traditional dementia but it is what I call idiot dementia. It isn’t that his brain has stopped normal functioning, it’s because it was never actually in a normally functioning human.
Jeffro
@Mike in NC:
@Matt McIrvin:
Pence, perhaps more than any other Republican, would draw trumpov’s ire/fire/dementia-addled raving and ranting to his hardcore base more than any other R (or should I just say ‘RINO’, because that’s what trumpov would and will say).
On top of that, there are so many utter lowlifes like Pompeo, Cruz, Cotton, etc etc, who are more than willing to ‘question’ Pence’s loyalty to
trumpover I mean the Republican Party in order to try and position themselves as the heir apparent.Never say never but Pence seems like a non-starter for many, many reasons.
debbie
@debbie:
The more I read, the better it gets.
MazeDancer
Big Deal – if real.
Schumer and Pelosi are going to try to pass Voting Rights by a “Message Between the Houses” scheme. It’s a reconciliation process that happens when both chambers pass a bill but need to work out language. It can’t be filibustered. And after it’s done 3 times, it’s set.
Here is along thread explaining it.
Bill Arnold
@Old School:
Somebody sent me a link, and I watched 1/2 of it before getting bored. Mr DJT appears to genuinely believe that he actually won the election, or at least that’s his working belief system ATM.
He will continue to flail himself (and flail his most gullible followers) against the reality that he lost, and lost really badly in the popular vote.
debbie
@Geminid:
Based on his performance in the interview, he’ll be self-punching. At some point, you can repeat yourself too often.
sab
@debbie: Wow. I was not expecting that at all.
MisterDancer
RE: Voting Rights. And they (we!) have a plan: (EDIT Credit to nick-alike @MazeDancer as well!)
What does it mean?
Fascinating. I heard the “messages” term used before, yet this is the first I recall anyone using it in this way, if all this is true (I’m looking for a 2nd source on all this).
Again, if true: This falls right in with how Schumer and especially Pelosi have used their (relative) depth of knowledge of Congressional rules to beat back some of the worst effects of the GOP’s excesses — remember how we got Garland in because the GOP forgot what happens when they just walk off the “create a media circus” job without closing up the shop, the right way?
I guess we’ll see what happens.
Omnes Omnibus
@sab: Good things are actually possible.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@debbie:
Oh, he dissented from the majority opinion. Because of course he did:
Here’s a good write-up from the Columbis Dispatch:
Chief Justice O’Connor was the key vote. She actually called out the Commission as blatantly partisan and disobeying the will of the voters. Dem Associate Justice Melody Stewart wrote the majority opinion
ETA:
@debbie:
You beat me to the punch. Pretty good, right?
Old School
@MazeDancer:
As I read the tweets, it is the motion to proceed that can’t be filibustered. Republicans could still filibuster the final bill, so a carve out would need to be approved.
Still, it’s nice to see movement.
AWOL
When one converses with Ten Bears, one converses with an entity who believes quite strongly that “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” was a conspiracy created by “The Jews” to somehow form the nation of Israel.
And I will never let the readers of any blog this entity posts on NOT know this.
Ruckus
@Mike in NC:
My opinion is that Pence’s lack of a personality is better for them because when they pick republicans with a personality it is always a worse choice than Pence. Not that he’s a good choice mind you, but less poisonous is still less poisonous. Their big problem is that any of their choices is poisonous for the country and the voters. Including Pence.
whomever
@Lofgren: I mean look what’s going on across the pond. After everything Boris has done, it looks like he’s going down because of…a few parties during lockdown.
debbie
@sab:
I’m not finding any GOP reactions yet, but Nan Whaley and Common Cause are dancing in the streets.
dopey-o
i seem to recall something ….. heat ….. kitchen …. Harry Truman …..
which makes me all the more eager to see Schiff / Maddow / Cole take TFG up on his debate challenge.
NotMax
Psst. Pence is the stealth head honcho behind MS-13.
Pass it on.
//
Geminid
@Jeffro: I think you are right about Pence being a non-starter. He’ll find this out when he tries to raise money.
sab
@debbie: The decision was for the state senate and house districts, not for Congress. Maureen O’Connor voted with the three Dems.DeWine voted with the other two Repubs.
debbie
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
I want to hear Bill Sietz’s thundering rage!
Edmund Dantes
@trollhattan: nah. He should have done this long ago. They should have been putting out both red and blue state judges the entire time. Otherwise you have one senator suddenly pushing up daisies and you’ve wasted time and no longer get to put forth nominations at all.
but yay for finally doing what should have been done as soon as Dems were in power and control of the process.
Ruckus
@lollipopguild:
It’s really just a blip in the total list of things he does not understand. This total can be stated in one word, everyfuckingthing.
debbie
@sab:
Understood, but those maps gave the GOP an 81% to 19% advantage when the actual voting runs closer to 54% to 46%. Seitz himself called the new maps “constitutionally consistent.” Compared to what, I’d like to know.
ETA: These are the maps that will determine whether all vaccines become unmandated, whether the Ohio legislature can overrule election results, etc. This is a big deal.
azlib
@Geminid:
It is somewhat ironic the rally is in Florence which is where several state prisons are located. In fact the prisons are most of Florence’s GDP.
trollhattan
@Ruckus: St. Mittens of Mittlandia would like us to reconsider the role of this “personality sham” in presidential politics. And from the far past, Mike Dukakis.
Geminid
@azlib: It’s like someone checking out retirement communities.
trollhattan
@Edmund Dantes: Mine=blown Leahy didn’t do the same. WTAF, we knew what Republicans were by then!
Ken
“Are there no white coats? Are there no butterfly nets?”
West of the Rockies
@Jeffro:
I suspect he could win a race for mayor or possibly even a House seat for Indiana, but probably nothing higher.
MisterDancer
@Old School: Right, that’s what I’m finding from the Axios article:
They also note it’s a similar tactic to the one that got the debt ceiling in position to be passed. That one, though, I don’t know as much about the details on how it all went down, rules-wise.
I’d not be shocked if this move is why McConnell has been lying like a rug around this situation for a few days, now.
trollhattan
@NotMax: Was it the neck tattoos?
moops
GOP has gotten all they wanted from TFG. A country ready to slide into minority rule through election tampering and all power in the hands of a partisan supreme court and the wealthy even wealthier.
TFG is not going to usher in a new theocracy.
mrmoshpotato
Dense vs Dump! Let them fight!
artem1s
@debbie: thank goodness for Jennifer Brunner.
Jon Marcus
@Chetan Murthy: Eh, Since he left office Trump has been big on “his” BEAUTIFUL AMAZING vaccine.
Ruckus
@Bill Arnold:
Look at SFB over the long haul.
He has always had a completely illogical, idiotic, childish opinion of himself because every functioning adult human sees him as nothing more than a useless sack of poisoned protoplasm.
Omnes Omnibus
@artem1s: I have always liked her. Nice person, great advocate.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@debbie:
Hah!
Another related tidbit from the linked article:
West of the Rockies
@debbie:
I think that Trump’s whining about the election will eventually play like a 60-year-old man saying, “Back in ’79, we should have gone to the state championship, but the coach played another guy, and everybody knows I woulda ran it in for the touchdown!”
mrmoshpotato
We (Democrats) – and Pepperidge Farm – remember – that the GOP has been a shitpile long before the more skillful, orange conman oozed down the escalator.
Roger Moore
@germy:
It’s a variant on the general principle. How failures are treated depends on who fails. Failures among people like Us are always personal faults, while failure among Those People are always a reflection of how bad the group is. It’s just that this time Us is a political party rather than a race or gender. No matter how many Republicans fail in the same way, it’s always a personal failure and never a reflection of a problem with the party. Whenever a Democrat fails, it’s a sign that the Democratic Party has a problem.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@artem1s:
@Omnes Omnibus:
I was happy to vote for her in 2020. She seemed like a fair person and she had done a good job as Ohio SOS. She’s the one who introduced no excuse vote-by-mail IIRC. Her victory was one of the few bright spots in Ohio for that election.. Too bad O’Donnell wasn’t also elected instead of Sharon Kennedy, who wrote the dissent for this redistricting case
cain
@CaseyL: But they have invited the crazy into their house and they have taken over. They are not going to be able to continue without having to appease them. But the thing is, they are being replaced by crazy conspiracy theorists and soon the money bag people will have no one to lean on because it’s completely controlled by right wing crazy framing.
Gin & Tonic
@Omnes Omnibus: Heretic!
Baud
@MisterDancer:
Is there anything more arcane and complicated than the rules of the House and Senate?
I’ll take it though.
NotMax
@Baud
Fizzbin?
:)
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic: I have been called worse on this very blog. But this OH redistricting decision is huge.
MazeDancer
@MisterDancer:
Did you propose? Wouldn’t MisterDancer be my spouse? And if so, are you going to write lots more PostCards?
Ot maybe MisterMix and I had a love child. Only been here since 2008, might have missed it.
Thought Woodrow was a nice nym.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud:
Habeas Corpus procedures get pretty arcane.
debbie
@artem1s:
She’s a tough cookie. The state GOP has demonized her constantly. I love that she’s on the Supreme Court now.
debbie
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Zzzzzzzing!
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus: I didn’t know that. Never needed it.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: It sucked up about three years of my professional life.
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus:
I’m glad you got out.
sab
@debbie: Absoulutely it is a huge deal. I hope it augurs well for the case on the Congressional map.
I have had the feeling for a while that O’Connor was getting disgusted with the GOP abandoning even a pretense of following actual laws.
Booger
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): He’s not serious unless he explores all 14,000,605 redistricting scenarios that Dr. Strange explored before finding that Tony Stark has to die in order for Ohio to be redistricted fairly.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Gin & Tonic:
@Omnes Omnibus:
I’m sorry I can sometimes be so negative. I know I’ve been pretty bad the last few weeks
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: The federal court house was a nice place.
Woodrow/asim
@MazeDancer: Oh, no proposals here! Just a neat coincidence. Thanks for the compliment on my name; I kind of wanted an actual nym, not just my name(s).
And, hilariously, there’s someone who (used to?) post here under the nym “WoodrowFan” — completely unrelated. Never did find out what that was for…
Shalimar
Pence’s main problem is the talk radio mindset that he was a part of helping to create for so many years. The base never forgets even the smallest slight, and they remember people based on one-sentence caricatures of the worst thing they have ever done.
Pence will always be “that guy who we tried to hang.”
Omnes Omnibus
More state level good news.
MazeDancer
@Woodrow/asim:
Fan club can be revived.
Hope you keep Woodrow. It’s how people know you. Sounds realer.
Lofgren
@trollhattan: Unless library is a euphemism for toilet, I wouldn’t bet on Trump getting murdered somewhere he might accidentally read something.
TriassicSands
@debbie:
I’ve long disliked Inskeep. He has been one of the worst of the bothsiderists. It’s good and a little surprising that Trump would hang up on him. Maybe 1/6 was too much for Inskeep.
trollhattan
@Betty Cracker: Those Prius drivers, they’re feelin’ frisky.
“Prius” and “extremely high rate of speed” are not an obvious pairing.
trollhattan
@Lofgren: I assume that if a library is present, Melanie knows she can hide from him there.
Speaking of, any plans yet for the Trump Casino and Library-Thing Tower?
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
Pence is a bore.
More importantly Dump’s cult wants to hang him, so no, he’ll never win a nomination
The Village loves to build up republican bores. Remember how they touted Fred Thompson and the 5’2″ Mitch Daniels as presidential, then they went all in on Christie and later Lil’ Marco. I’m old enough to remember when they declared Guilliani the presumptive nominee in 2007 and then he failed to win a single delegate. And don’t get me started on their putrid love affairs with ¡Jeb! and Kasich.
The Village suffers from a collective Stockholm Syndrome.
Roger Moore
@CaseyL:
Very much this. Trump got ahead by seeing what the Republican base wanted and giving it to them. They made him, and they can and will unmake him the moment he stops giving them what they want. The idea that Trump is some genius and the only person who can satisfy the base is Trumpist nonsense. It’s possible that nobody else will be as effective at motivating them as Trump was, but what they want is obvious and there are plenty of people willing to give it a try.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Omnes Omnibus:
?
What’s the makeup of the Wis Supreme Court?
debbie
@TriassicSands:
He’s too full of himself. I hate the way he takes up so much time with his questions and then cuts off the interviewee because time’s run out.
Gin & Tonic
@trollhattan: Must have been going downhill.
Speaking of “extremely high rate of speed” here’s a Bugatti Chiron hitting 417 kph on the Autobahn (that’s about 259 mph in American.)
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Booger:
lol
@debbie:
The whole article is a huge zinger to the state GOP
Peale
@Baud: I’ve been trying to make my corpus easily available for years. Most lawyers I’ve dealt with have been begging me to explore those arcane procedures. Like covering up with a kaftan.
sab
@TriassicSands: I have disliked him ever since I read his book about Andrew Jackson and John Ross.
burnspbesq
@West of the Rockies:
I thought the Coroner of Munchkin Land had thoroughly examined him, and pronounced him Really and Sincerely Dead.
Seriously, though, it doesn’t matter what any formerly mainstream Republicans or Beltway chatterers want to believe. Unless he’s dead or in prison, Trump will be the nominee.
Omnes Omnibus
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Not good.. That is why this was significant.
Roger Moore
@debbie:
IIRC, the Republicans claim that since they won about 80% of the statewide elections, they should be allowed to let themselves win 80% of the districts.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Gin & Tonic:
I don’t think I’d be able to do that. It takes a special kind of person to push themselves to go that fast.
One thing about the Autobahn, it does give people who own supercars the chance to use them to their full potential
Baud
@Peale:
Bad flashback to Rudy Giuliani in that Borat movie.
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic:
Nice flat and straight road. I assume it was in the northern part of the former DDR.
Jinchi
The Pence 2024 stories are ridiculous. He was never popular. He was only elevated to the national stage because TFG needed a stooge. He’s most famous for being completely obsequious to the most despised president in US history.
He’s nothing without TFG and TFG literally sent a mob to kill him.
WaterGirl
@trollhattan: That makes me really happy.
WaterGirl
@Scout211: Consistently wrong since 2002?
eachother
Though there is a lot of Twinkie in the Cheat-O, I think his shelf life is being pruned.
Gin & Tonic
@Omnes Omnibus: Wouldn’t know. I actually never encountered a no-speed-limit section of road anywhere south of Frankfurt, though.
Jinchi
My first car was a Hyundai and it was literally impossible for me to speed on the highway.
Roger Moore
@Lofgren:
When I was in college, I worked in the faculty club, and one of the dining rooms was called the library. It was generally similar to the other dining rooms except the walls were covered with book shelves to make it look classy. The books were bound with color-coordinated covers so they’d look nice on the shelves, which was obviously far more important than the contents. I don’t think I ever saw anyone take one off the shelf in the 3 years I worked there. I could totally imagine Trump in that kind of library.
SiubhanDuinne
@Jinchi:
After all these years, we still don’t know enough about Manafort’s role in Pence’s selection.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Jinchi: Chris Hayes made a funny the other night about being a short, awkward, fourteen-year-old benchwarmer and realizing that however much he loved basketball, he was never going to realize his dream of playing in the NBA. He said Mike Pence needs to have the same kind of awakening about a political future.
Scout211
@WaterGirl:
Ha! I would object, except for the mere fact that I resemble that remark. ?
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic: Nuremberg to Munich was mostly wide open was I was there. 100-120 mph is comfortable for long distances. Much faster and the degree of hyper-awareness needed became tiring after a few minutes.
NotMax
FYI.
Jinchi
That’s an interesting combination of the state’s original “Stand Your Ground” law with the new Desantis rule legalizing vehicular homicide.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Omnes Omnibus:
It’s especially good news in that case
WaterGirl
@Scout211: You are in good company with John Cole. :-)
debbie
@Roger Moore:
Yes, but we both know that’s total bullshit.
Geoduck
@David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: There are many many bad things you can say about Giuliani, but being boring is not one of them.
Ramalama
@Roger Moore: his library is going to contain books he’s ‘written’ plus fake books with Photoshop covers like the fake Time magazines hanging in his office. Winner of the No-bell prize. Winner of 9 Pulitzers.
The way to enter the library will be to climb the walls, like honky Kong of Jan 6th.
yellowdog
@Ten Bears: What happens to TFG is irrelevant. The voter suppression, gerrymandering, and vote nullification at the state level are already sufficiently in place to insure a permanent GQP majority.
yellowdog
@whomever: He’s going nowhere. Any other Tory is even worse and there is no way they will call an early election.
Geminid
@yellowdog: Actually, despite Republican gerrymandering in states they control, the new Congressional map will come out as a wash, maybe slightly positive for Democrats. If the Ohio Supreme Court strikes down tbe state’s Congressional maps like it did the state’s legislative map, redistricting may be two or three seats better for Democrats.
Of course, nothing will be decided for sure until this November. But I like our chances to hold the House this year, and maybe even expand the Democratic majority.