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Tuesday Morning Open Thread: Eccentric Orbits

by Anne Laurie|  January 18, 20226:54 am| 141 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Show Us on the Doll Where the Invisible Hand Touched You, Space

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Tuesday Morning Open Thread: The Full Wolf Moon

(Arlo & Janis via GoComics.com)
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PLUTO IS A PLANET https://t.co/xQfOYn7TCx

— Gerry Doyle (@mgerrydoyle) January 18, 2022

You know what, I support mandatory military service now. Make everyone do a year or two. If only so they will understand how dumb of an idea this is. pic.twitter.com/Atu1FsdCN9

— Lethality Jane (@LethalityJane) January 16, 2022


Why do so many people assume ‘we’ have an endless backup supply of nurse-NPCs, teacher bots, and the little green army men from Toy Story?

The correct compromise.

— Lucy Kwiatek (@MandHF) January 16, 2022

Be afraid! Be very... wait, what?

In other words: The last time inflation was this high, the President who presided over it won reelection by an electoral college vote of 525 – 13 https://t.co/52rnMkOrZO

— James Carter IV (@JECarter4) January 17, 2022

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  1. 1.

    lowtechcyclist

    January 18, 2022 at 7:00 am

    PLUTO IS A PLANET

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7963278-how-i-killed-pluto-and-why-it-had-it-coming

  2. 2.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 18, 2022 at 7:01 am

    Blech.

  3. 3.

    Baud

    January 18, 2022 at 7:05 am

    You know which countries have mandatory military service?

    Socialist Scandinavian countries.

  4. 4.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 18, 2022 at 7:05 am

    As if we didn’t already have enough to worry about: Chemical pollution has passed safe limit for humanity, say scientists

    The cocktail of chemical pollution that pervades the planet now threatens the stability of global ecosystems upon which humanity depends, scientists have said.

    Plastics are of particularly high concern, they said, along with 350,000 synthetic chemicals including pesticides, industrial compounds and antibiotics. Plastic pollution is now found from the summit of Mount Everest to the deepest oceans, and some toxic chemicals, such as PCBs, are long-lasting and widespread. The study concludes that chemical pollution has crossed a “planetary boundary”, the point at which human-made changes to the Earth push it outside the stable environment of the last 10,000 years.

    Chemical pollution threatens Earth’s systems by damaging the biological and physical processes that underpin all life. For example, pesticides wipe out many non-target insects, which are fundamental to all ecosystems and, therefore, to the provision of clean air, water and food.

    “There has been a fiftyfold increase in the production of chemicals since 1950 and this is projected to triple again by 2050,” said Patricia Villarrubia-Gómez, a PhD candidate and research assistant at the Stockholm Resilience Centre (SRC) who was part of the study team. “The pace that societies are producing and releasing new chemicals into the environment is not consistent with staying within a safe operating space for humanity.”

    Sometimes I think humanity can’t go extinct soon enough.

  5. 5.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 18, 2022 at 7:09 am

    And something to celebrate: Seeing 1,000 glorious fin whales back from near extinction is a rare glimmer of hope

    Good news doesn’t get any more in-your-face than this. One thousand fin whales, one of the world’s biggest animals, were seen last week swimming in the same seas in which they were driven to near-extinction last century due to whaling. It’s like humans never happened.

    This vast assembly was spread over a five-mile-wide area between the South Orkney islands and the Antarctic Peninsula. A single whale is stupendous; imagine 1,000 of them, their misty forest of spouts, as tall as pine trees, the plosive sound of their blows, their hot breath condensing in the icy air. Their sharp dorsal fins and steel-grey bodies slide through the waves like a whale ballet, choreographed at the extreme south of our planet.

    The sight has left whale scientists slack-jawed and frankly green-eyed in envy of Conor Ryan, who observed it from the polar cruiser, National Geographic Endurance. Messaging from the ship on a tricky connection, Ryan, an experienced zoologist and photographer, says this may be “one of the largest aggregations of fin whales ever documented”. His estimate of 1,000 animals is a conservative one, he says.

    Conor Ryan @whale_nerd
    We found about 1000 fin whales over a 5×5 mile area off South Orkney. Blue and humpback also mixed in. Mind completely blown @LindbladExp
    #NationalGeographicEndurance

    (40 sec video at the tweet)

  6. 6.

    lowtechcyclist

    January 18, 2022 at 7:17 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:  Sometimes I think humanity can’t go extinct soon enough.

    Don’t worry, we’re working on it…

  7. 7.

    Baud

    January 18, 2022 at 7:19 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Sometimes I think humanity can’t go extinct soon enough.

     

    Join Baud! 20XX! and we’ll make it happen together!

  8. 8.

    lowtechcyclist

    January 18, 2022 at 7:22 am

    Make everyone do a year or two. If only so they will understand how dumb of an idea this is.

    Given the Bogus Scotus’ OSHA ruling, Biden should just say to requests that he use the military for X, Y, and Z, “Sorry, but Congress hasn’t written legislation specifically authorizing this.”

  9. 9.

    Cermet

    January 18, 2022 at 7:22 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Hopefully, the zooplankton is robust. Apparently the the krill, and algae are doing well. So the larger (through thinner) ice sheets forming around Antarctica are offering good habitat for the algae (alas, not so in the artic) – the base of the food pyramid.

  10. 10.

    different-church-lady

    January 18, 2022 at 7:26 am

    Wait… our military raises chickens?

  11. 11.

    different-church-lady

    January 18, 2022 at 7:29 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    It’s like humans never happened.

    Same thing the whole planet is going to say in about ten thousand years.

  12. 12.

    John S.

    January 18, 2022 at 7:39 am

    In Joe Biden’s America

    These dipshits really can’t help but to signal their autocratic tendencies. It isn’t Joe Biden’s America any more than it was TFG’s America. They just want a daddy figure to tell them what to do so badly (as long as it’s their daddy).

  13. 13.

    Cermet

    January 18, 2022 at 7:42 am

    @different-church-lady: Not that short of a time frame; CO2 levels will still be unnaturally high, and the layer of plastic in the sediments will be a permanent record of our existence as will the all the nuclear waste storage sites at every location there was a nuke power plant. Also, the sixth great world wide mass extinction event (occurring now and soon to be over in 50 years or so) will leave the world very deficient in diversity of species. Our footprint runs deep on that short of a time scale.

  14. 14.

    Baud

    January 18, 2022 at 7:42 am

    @John S.:

    ?

  15. 15.

    Peale

    January 18, 2022 at 7:44 am

    Oh, you laugh now, libs. But I’ve heard tell that it’s not just a supply chain issue. Canada has been buying up the chickens and holding them in its strategic reserves in Ova Scotia and Newfowlland. Canada claims that it’s doing this because it needs buffet states, but I think it’s time to end its eggression and send in the navy.

  16. 16.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    January 18, 2022 at 7:44 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Here’s your periodic reminder that 40-50 years ago, there was an active and organized (and broadly participated in) international effort with regard to population control. That effort included family planning assistance, contraception, abortion services and education.

    Thanks to a concerted effort by the evil triad of American conservatives, the reactionary wing of the Catholic Church (I spit at the memory of John Paul II) and Saudi islamists, those efforts were gutted.

    As I remember, that was about 3 billion new people ago.

    The current track is unsustainable.

  17. 17.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 18, 2022 at 7:50 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Yeah, I well remember. Yesterday I past on an article about the depopulation “crisis” in China. Which reminds me of the article I recently espied on how w/o immigration the US population would have shrunk in the past decade.

    We really need some new economic models as all our current ones are dependent upon never ending growth. In a finite world, that’s a recipe for disaster.

  18. 18.

    Baud

    January 18, 2022 at 7:53 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: 

    Mars, bitches.

  19. 19.

    debbie

    January 18, 2022 at 7:54 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    “Encouraging” three children per family! That won’t strain resources much. //

  20. 20.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 18, 2022 at 7:55 am

    @Baud: I knew somebody was going to bring that up. Figures it’d be you. ;-)

  21. 21.

    Baud

    January 18, 2022 at 8:00 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Happy to serve.

  22. 22.

    Kay

    January 18, 2022 at 8:01 am

    With COVID-19 cases on the rise and the March primary fast approaching, county officials across the state are rejecting a high number of applications submitted by voters who wish to vote by mail instead of going to the polls.
    The issue centers on new requirements passed by state lawmakers last year during the 87th Texas Legislature and the special sessions that followed. Senate bill 1, by state Sen. Bryan Hughes, R-Mineola, ushered in sweeping changes to election procedures, including what information must be included on an application for a mail-in ballot.
    The law requires that applications include a potential voter’s driver’s license numbers or Social Security information. That information must match the data on the person’s previously-submitted voting record. Critics of the provision say most people don’t remember which number they used when originally registering.
    In Bexar County, 42 of the 80 ballot applications received Thursday were rejected, Bexar County Elections administrator Jacque Callanen told Texas Public Radio. And roughly half of Travis County’s mail-in ballot applications for the March primary election have been rejected, KUT reported Thursday.

    50% rejection rate is huge. The ordinary range is 3 to 16%.
    The local election officials reporting this should use a prior rejection rate and then compare. One of them did- she said they were rejecting “7 times” as many applications under the new law, but they all should do it.

    That information must match the data on the person’s previously-submitted voting record

    So if you used a Social Security number on one form and then a driver’s license number on the application, that’s a mismatch and it’s rejected. I actually do this. I sometimes use last 4 digits of Social and sometimes DL number on my “in person absentee” but I don’t have a hastily slapped together state law written by rabid Republicans based on information they gathered from the My Pillow guy.

  23. 23.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    January 18, 2022 at 8:03 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    All of our economic models are predicated on uncapped growth and voluntary production/consumption within that framework. China, being China (with a more mixed system and a population acculturated to generally comply with government mandates) will undoubtedly weather depopulation in a stable way, as will Vietnam, the Nordic countries AND Australia/NZ. The UK will break up into its constituent states, we’ll have a bloody, low level urban vs rural conflict (as will France and Germany), and the southern Mediterranean nations will whine a lot while keeping to a cohesive whole. Central America south of Mexico will go either fascist or communist, and South America will go along much the same with the exception of Brazil, which will break up.

  24. 24.

    Immanentize

    January 18, 2022 at 8:03 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Those whales are like the Ents. They are getting ready to go to war.

  25. 25.

    WereBear

    January 18, 2022 at 8:06 am

    Why can’t they open up the Chicken Wing Reserve? We’ve done that before!

  26. 26.

    Ken

    January 18, 2022 at 8:10 am

    I remember back when Pluto got de-planetized, having an email exchange with someone who was actually angry about it. I asked about the 5 or so then-known similar Kuiper belt objects that would also have to be promoted to planetary status, but he was firm — Pluto was a planet, the others didn’t count. As far as I could tell, he had learned “nine planets” in grade school, and that was the end of it.

  27. 27.

    rikyrah

    January 18, 2022 at 8:11 am

    Good Morning Everyone ???

  28. 28.

    Immanentize

    January 18, 2022 at 8:15 am

    My Grandfather (and Godfather and Uncle) were butchers/meatcutters. There was a time when veal was cheap and chicken was expensive. Veal was cheap because we couldn’t engineer the gender of the cow births, so all the bulls were put to the knife. I have a very yummy recipe for “city chicken” from back when which is cubed veal and pork, seasoned, placed on a stick (like for candy apples), breaded, fried then baked. So fine — but it was cheaper than chicken legs.

    American football parties and Hooters cornered the wings market which is why what was recently thrown away or used for soup stock is now 3-4 bucks per pound.

  29. 29.

    Immanentize

    January 18, 2022 at 8:15 am

    @rikyrah: Good morning!

  30. 30.

    Ken

    January 18, 2022 at 8:16 am

    @WereBear: You fool, it’s not the wings! Our strategic buffalo sauce reserve is empty, after the excesses of the former administration.

  31. 31.

    WereBear

    January 18, 2022 at 8:17 am

    @Ken: As far as I could tell, he had learned “nine planets” in grade school, and that was the end of it.

     
    Which. Isn’t. Science.

  32. 32.

    Cermet

    January 18, 2022 at 8:17 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: In less than 70 years, a minimum of 50% of the Earth’s population will be gone; that is at best, the Earth will have 4 billion people left by then. Maybe far less – all thanks to AGW. Current fertility rates are really meaningless – between lost of the equatorial regions as places people can live/grow food and droughts in many food producing areas will lead to mass starvation; and don’t forget these weaken people will get and spread new diseases, and then, of course massive war from forced migrations will rapidly reduce our population. All these ‘benefits’ of AGW will be starting in a big way in thirty to forty years. Our children and grandchildren aren’t gonna much like that world to live in – worse, I’d say there will be a very high chance nukes being used in this future.

    Go back to your (really) excellent life (for us!)

  33. 33.

    Immanentize

    January 18, 2022 at 8:20 am

    @WereBear:
    @Ken:
    Wasn’t there a mnemonic about the planets? I remember it started with:
    “My Very Elegant Mother…” But like so much else, the rest has slipped into the ether

  34. 34.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 18, 2022 at 8:21 am

    @Baud: It’s what you live for.

  35. 35.

    rikyrah

    January 18, 2022 at 8:22 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Yeah ??

  36. 36.

    Immanentize

    January 18, 2022 at 8:22 am

    @Cermet: What’s you problem? Got crabs?

  37. 37.

    Baud

    January 18, 2022 at 8:23 am

    @rikyrah:

    Good morning.

  38. 38.

    Ken

    January 18, 2022 at 8:24 am

    @Immanentize: There are several mnemonics for both 9 and 8 planets, including at least one obscene one which I can’t find now — but XKCD has a couple (because there’s an XKCD for everything).

  39. 39.

    rikyrah

    January 18, 2022 at 8:24 am

    @Kay:

    And, while this is happening in real time, the Trifling Trick from Arizona is blustering about why an exception to the filibuster can’t be carved out for voting rights ??

  40. 40.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 18, 2022 at 8:26 am

    @Ken:  I gather he’s not too fond of Mike Brown then, is he?

    Oh, wait a minute, probably never heard of him.

  41. 41.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 18, 2022 at 8:28 am

    @Immanentize: ​ My mother used to make fried wings regularly for her family of 8 because they were so cheap.

  42. 42.

    jeffreyw

    January 18, 2022 at 8:30 am

    @Ken:

     

    Ken

    January 18, 2022 at 8:16 am

    @WereBear: You fool, it’s not the wings! Our strategic buffalo sauce reserve is empty, after the excesses of the former administration.

    There was a huge insider theft of wing sauce from the reserve warehouse that the government hushed up because it cast Jared in a very bad light.  PPE redux.

  43. 43.

    WereBear

    January 18, 2022 at 8:30 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Never ate a wing until the 80’s. They were for soup in my family for generations.

  44. 44.

    WereBear

    January 18, 2022 at 8:32 am

    @jeffreyw: Of course they suspect the conservatives because the Strategic Celery Reserves were untouched.

  45. 45.

    debbie

    January 18, 2022 at 8:32 am

    @Immanentize:

    I remember city chicken!

  46. 46.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 18, 2022 at 8:33 am

    @WereBear: My mother would make soup out of almost anything, but she drew the line at gnawed on chicken wing bones.

  47. 47.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 18, 2022 at 8:34 am

    I wonder how Betty Cracked and Badger are doing with the big freeze they got this morn.

  48. 48.

    Ken

    January 18, 2022 at 8:36 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: I imagine his head would explode if Brown’s “Planet Nine” is ever verified. Or maybe he’d drift off into weird conspiracy theories, that seems popular nowadays.

  49. 49.

    Immanentize

    January 18, 2022 at 8:36 am

    @debbie: I still make it, maybe once a year. Perfect picnic pot luck item.

  50. 50.

    White & Gold Purgatorian

    January 18, 2022 at 8:37 am

    @Immanentize:

    The one I learned is:

    Mother Very Thoughtfully Made A Jelly Sandwich Under No Protest

    A is for the asteroid belt.

  51. 51.

    Kay

    January 18, 2022 at 8:39 am

    @rikyrah:

    The Texas Secretary of State office scolded one of the local officials on Twitter for noting the problem publicly. So we see the committment to educating the public on the new law- they would prefer she call them privately so voters won’t know they’re rejecting 50% of applications.

    If only we had a federal civil rights law that establishes and enforces a baseline in election administration for all Americans, just in case their state government is taken over by a cult. But that’s a pipedream. Unimagineable that anyone should even ask for such a thing.

  52. 52.

    different-church-lady

    January 18, 2022 at 8:39 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

     Chemical pollution has passed safe limit for humanity,

    Humanity has passed the safe limit for humanity.

  53. 53.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 18, 2022 at 8:40 am

    Catherine Rampell in the WaPo has a column about the Biden administration’s abysmal handling of immigration policy (can’t link now), an issue that has been my personal hobby horse as well. As commenter s_c has pointed out repeatedly, the US actively discourages immigration, and this appears to be a policy which transcends administrations.

  54. 54.

    Betty Cracker

    January 18, 2022 at 8:40 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: We are unhappy about it.

  55. 55.

    Ken

    January 18, 2022 at 8:41 am

    Now you’ve all got me wondering if chicken feet will someday follow the same path as wings — and if so, what sauce will be used.

  56. 56.

    NotMax

    January 18, 2022 at 8:41 am

    Is America ready for Walcoin?

    Walmart appears to be getting ready for a leap into the metaverse. Recent trademark applications indicate the company is looking to establish its own NFTs and cryptocurrency, according to a report from CNBC.

    The retail giant filed for several trademarks on December 30th, suggesting plans to start selling virtual goods, including electronics, toys, appliances, sporting equipment, apparel, home decor, and more, as noted by CNBC. There’s mention of offering customers a digital currency, as well as the opportunity to buy and sell NFTs.… Source

  57. 57.

    John S.

    January 18, 2022 at 8:42 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    The same used to be true of skirt steak. But then it became extremely popular because everyone all of a sudden discovered churrasco, and now it’s like $9.99 per pound.

    All the Latino families I grew up with in South Florida used to make it precisely because it was cheap. No more.

  58. 58.

    Baud

    January 18, 2022 at 8:42 am

    @NotMax:

    plans to start selling virtual goods, including electronics, toys, appliances, sporting equipment, apparel, home decor,

    Aren’t those real goods?

  59. 59.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 18, 2022 at 8:43 am

    @Ken: I hope I’m still alive when it is found, tho that’s a bit of a crapshoot considering it’s projected orbital period.

  60. 60.

    rikyrah

    January 18, 2022 at 8:43 am

    ???

     

    TheSadTruth? (@ReportsDaNews) tweeted at 8:10 PM on Mon, Jan 17, 2022:
    BREAKING

    @Maddow – Mike Pence knew before January 6th that there were states that sent in forged election documents.
    (https://twitter.com/ReportsDaNews/status/1483260543058255874?t=h1tnpvFgK2UElBaObqjr_A&s=03)

  61. 61.

    Soprano2

    January 18, 2022 at 8:44 am

    @Kay: And let me guess, you can’t put both on the form to cover all the bases. I wonder how many of these rejections are white Republicans – with a 50% rejection rate, some of them have to be white people who have easily voted by mail in the past and had no idea the law would affect them. It’ll be interesting to see the reaction to this totally predictable result of a sloppy law designed to suppress voting.

  62. 62.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 18, 2022 at 8:45 am

    @Betty Cracker: Well, at least your fingers are still working. :-) Hoping the day warms up for both of your sakes.

  63. 63.

    Ken

    January 18, 2022 at 8:45 am

    @Baud: Well, sure, if you want to clutter up your life with things. But think of how satisfying it will be to own a virtual home gym — you still have all your floor space, and no guilt over never using it.

    (I once helped some friends move. They had a home gym, but had lost the assembly instructions, so we just started removing bolts until it collapsed into a mess of steel rods and cables that we could fit into a box. I have no idea if they ever got it back together again.)

  64. 64.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 18, 2022 at 8:47 am

    @Ken: My Spanish born wife is ready for it. I have to get the feet from our chickens every year for her.

  65. 65.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 18, 2022 at 8:49 am

    @Baud: I was wondering what one does with a virtual appliance. Wash one’s virtual clothes?

  66. 66.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 18, 2022 at 8:49 am

    @Immanentize:

    I have a very yummy recipe for “city chicken” from back when which is cubed veal and pork, seasoned, placed on a stick (like for candy apples), breaded, fried then baked. So fine — but it was cheaper than chicken legs.

    Oh, yes. When I was a youngster we often had “mock chicken legs,” which were exactly as you describe. Loved them.

    And now that I think of it, it occurs to me that we — a large and not at all well-off family — frequently had meat loaf for dinner, but a chicken dinner was a rare treat.

  67. 67.

    Betty Cracker

    January 18, 2022 at 8:50 am

    @Gin & Tonic: I just read that column. My guess is the admin believes it’s politically untenable to liberalize immigration laws. Maybe they’re right — I don’t know. Rampell says the Biden admin is getting the worst of both worlds by pissing off the pro-immigration base AND opening themselves up to “open border” lies from the right. I think the latter is a given no matter what. As for the former, I’m not convinced the failure to welcome more immigration is bad for Dems politically. (Just commenting on the politics of it, not the moral dimension.)

  68. 68.

    Soprano2

    January 18, 2022 at 8:51 am

    Overheard in a kind of diner here yesterday, three older men (probably in their 70’s or 80’s) talking about politics opining that “Trump can talk two hours, Biden can’t even talk twenty minutes”, which is a) wrong and b) stupid. Anyone can babble nonsense for two hours! It’s amazing what they think is an indicator of greatness.

  69. 69.

    narya

    January 18, 2022 at 8:51 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: that made my hair stand on end; thank you for sharing.

  70. 70.

    Soprano2

    January 18, 2022 at 8:52 am

    @Betty Cracker: And on top of that there is a pandemic going on right now, which makes it harder to open up immigration.

  71. 71.

    Kay

    January 18, 2022 at 8:55 am

    @Soprano2:

    Oh, well. They’re all just subject to any and all experiments Republicans want to conduct with voting. Maybe it will suppress votes, maybe it won’t. It’s no longer considered a civil right, so it’s like an error at the BMV. They’ll sort it out – or not.

    The important thing is NOT to tell voters – that’s from the top state election official. Report this only to headquarters!

  72. 72.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 18, 2022 at 8:56 am

    @Ken:

    (I once helped some friends move. They had a home gym, but had lost the assembly instructions, so we just started removing bolts until it collapsed into a mess of steel rods and cables that we could fit into a box. I have no idea if they ever got it back together again.)

    Magic 8-Ball says: Not bloody likely

  73. 73.

    Baud

    January 18, 2022 at 8:57 am

    @Soprano2:

    Overheard in a kind of diner here yesterday

     

    Tell the NYT! They’ll be there in no time.

  74. 74.

    WereBear

    January 18, 2022 at 8:59 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: And Pete the Perpetual Puppy.

  75. 75.

    NotMax

    January 18, 2022 at 9:00 am

    Diamonds are a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri’s best friend.

    Auction house Sotheby’s Dubai has unveiled a diamond that’s literally from out of this world.

    Sotheby’s calls the 555.55-carat black diamond — believed to have come from outer space — “The Engima.” The rare gem was shown off today to journalists as part of a tour in Dubai and Los Angeles before it is due to be auctioned off in February in London. Source

  76. 76.

    WereBear

    January 18, 2022 at 9:01 am

    @Ken: Now that would be a marketing challenge.

  77. 77.

    WereBear

    January 18, 2022 at 9:02 am

    @Baud: Not when they are paid for in Bitcoin.

  78. 78.

    Ken

    January 18, 2022 at 9:02 am

    @Kay: The Texas Secretary of State office scolded one of the local officials on Twitter for noting the problem publicly.

    Using Twitter to tell people not to discuss something in public strikes me as self-defeating.

  79. 79.

    Josie

    January 18, 2022 at 9:05 am

    @John S.: The same was true in South Texas where I grew up.  Skirt steaks or fajitas were the cheap cuts that we used for barbeque.

  80. 80.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 18, 2022 at 9:12 am

    @WereBear: Dammit! I knew I’d forget one.

  81. 81.

    Bex

    January 18, 2022 at 9:17 am

    @Immanentize:  We called them mock chicken legs, although I don’t remember ours being breaded.  They were available ready-made by the butcher.

  82. 82.

    Geminid

    January 18, 2022 at 9:21 am

    After attending his shabby  successor’s inauguration Saturday, Virginia’s ex-Governor Ralph Northam took Sunday off. On Monday he went back to work at the Children’s Specialty Group in Norfolk, where he’ll again practice as a pediatric neurologist.

    A Democrat from neighboring Portsmouth, State Senator L. Louise Lucas has now become a leader of the anti-Youngkin Resistance. As Majority Leader, Lucas and her slim 21-19 majority in Virginia’s Senate will try to limit Republican damage to the state until the 2023 elections.

  83. 83.

    debbie

    January 18, 2022 at 9:21 am

    Smartass Wordle. Take the full six chances to solve it and get a “Phew.”

  84. 84.

    NeenerNeener

    January 18, 2022 at 9:21 am

    @Ken: I’m still laughing over that last xkcd panel…

  85. 85.

    debbie

    January 18, 2022 at 9:23 am

    @Geminid:

    Colbert was brilliant last night. He reported COVID Dick was real, “but he prefers to be called Ron DeSantis.”

    ?

  86. 86.

    gvg

    January 18, 2022 at 9:23 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Prior stories I have read with statistics suggest China will NOT weather depopulation well.  A consequence of their long standing previous law of 1 child per family plus the cultural preference for boys has resulted in an excess of boys who therefore will never marry. A decade ago their were concerns about a rise in violence because of frustration.  Even children of that generation who marry are all going to be expected to support 2 sets of aging parents with no sibling help. Frankly, I found the problems caused by that to be overwhelming, but perhaps that is just my unfamiliarity with the problems. The stories I have read seemed to be saying China didn’t have something like our social security, especially in rural areas. Elder care must be done by family.

  87. 87.

    NotMax

    January 18, 2022 at 9:27 am

    @Bex

    mock chicken leg

    It’s conceivable one could design an entire dinner party around foods with “mock” in the name.

    Got a recipe for Mock Hollandaise Sauce around here someplace. Acceptable though less elegant simulacrum of the real thing.

    ;)

  88. 88.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    January 18, 2022 at 9:28 am

    @Soprano2: Honestly if we’re going to be doing this macho posture BS in a 2024 rematch between Biden and Trump, Biden should just challenge the guy to a feats of strength and endurance competition. Maybe see who can finish a 5K or 10 mile bike ride first, followed by a pushup contest. One of those two guys can do those things with relative ease. The other might drop from a massive coronary, and it’s not the one these guys think lacks stamina.

  89. 89.

    Ken

    January 18, 2022 at 9:33 am

    @NotMax: Got a recipe for Mock Hollandaise Sauce

    If it starts “1 cup Miracle Whip™ Salad Dressing”, please don’t share.

    I do remember back in the USENET days, a “mock apple pie” recipe that was prefaced with “found lurking on the back of a Ritz cracker box”. No apples, just crackers and cinnamon.

  90. 90.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 18, 2022 at 9:33 am

    @NotMax:

    Mock Turtle Soup as a starter.

  91. 91.

    NotMax

    January 18, 2022 at 9:39 am

    @Ken

    Nothing which is intended to go into my mouth contains Miracle Whip, in any measurement.

    “If you can choke it down, it’s a Miracle.”

    ;)

  92. 92.

    John S.

    January 18, 2022 at 9:40 am

    @Josie:

    There seems to be almost some sort of class warfare being waged on the poor with food throughout history.

    Foods that were cheap enough for the poor consistently become appropriated by the wealthy until those foods are no longer affordable. Then the poor find a new cheap food source only to have that eventually made too expensive.

    It’s a vicious cycle.

  93. 93.

    Raoul Paste

    January 18, 2022 at 9:41 am

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?:

     

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?: I think a push-up contest would be the quickest competition.  But don’t stop filming until the ambulance arrives

  94. 94.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 18, 2022 at 9:43 am

    For those who might be looking for English-language news about Ukraine,

    Finally, I can share the news. Today we launched the newest and largest independent news website about Ukraine for English-language audience. The New Voice of Ukraine! https://t.co/VOJC7PABhX
    — Nika Melkozerova (@NikaMelkozerova) January 18, 2022

    This is separate from (and in addition to) the excellent Kyiv Independent, formerly known as the Kyiv Post.

  95. 95.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 18, 2022 at 9:45 am

    @NotMax:

    Is it really a “Miracle” if nobody asked for it?
    — Hellmann’s (@Hellmanns) January 13, 2022

  96. 96.

    debbie

    January 18, 2022 at 9:46 am

    @Ken:

    Mock apple pie was big back in the Depression.

  97. 97.

    Steve in the ATL

    January 18, 2022 at 9:49 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: for cooking or for voodoo rituals?  Asking for a friend who needs help with his mojo.

  98. 98.

    different-church-lady

    January 18, 2022 at 9:50 am

    @NotMax:

    Nothing which is intended to go into my mouth contains Miracle Whip

    Okay, this sort of demands someone ask what you’re making with Miracle Whip that isn’t food.

  99. 99.

    Sloane Ranger

    January 18, 2022 at 9:51 am

    Don’t know if Tony Jay will read this, but I am thinking of visiting Liverpool later this year, just to do the touristy things such as gawp at Beatles related stuff, take a boat trip on the Mersey and visit the Tate, the Slavery and Western Approaches Museums and wanted to ask him a question.

    While researching options, I noticed that hotel prices seem to be higher and availability lower during the winter months (September onwards). This seems counter-intuitive. Is this because they expect lots of football fans to descend on the city over those months or is there another reason?

    Also, Tony, where would you recommend I visit/pass on due to it being an overpriced tourist trap?

    Any advice gratefully received. Thanks.

  100. 100.

    different-church-lady

    January 18, 2022 at 9:51 am

    @John S.: Same with neighborhoods.

  101. 101.

    Steve in the ATL

    January 18, 2022 at 9:51 am

    @Ken:

     

    I asked about the 5 or so then-known similar Kuiper belt objects that would also have to be promoted to planetary status

    Today in “tell me you’re a nerd without telling me you’re a nerd”…

    Zing!

  102. 102.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    January 18, 2022 at 9:55 am

    @debbie:

    I thought “no way X or Y”.

  103. 103.

    NotMax

    January 18, 2022 at 9:58 am

    @different-church-lady

    In both cases (whether food or non-food) my lips are sealed.

    ;)

  104. 104.

    Ken

    January 18, 2022 at 10:03 am

    @debbie: Mock apple pie was big back in the Depression.

    @Steve in the ATL: for cooking or for voodoo rituals?

    Every now and then, I read consecutive comments as if they are threaded, with amusing results.

    (And yes, it means ignoring the attributions.)

  105. 105.

    WereBear

    January 18, 2022 at 10:05 am

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?: Since they have eliminated the debate, I foresee a Battle of the Network Stars kind of thing.

  106. 106.

    Elizabelle

    January 18, 2022 at 10:06 am

    @Gin & Tonic:   That’s hilarious.

  107. 107.

    Ken

    January 18, 2022 at 10:09 am

    @WereBear: How about reviving Circus of the Stars?  I’d pay to see certain people shot out of a cannon.

  108. 108.

    PPCLI

    January 18, 2022 at 10:12 am

    @rikyrah: 
    This is a puzzlingly formulated tweet. First of all, “states” didn’t send in forged certificates. Rogue Republican operatives from contested states did.

    Secondly, of course Mike Pence knew! It was widely reported in real time, even at the level of details (such as that the “certificates” were being sent to the National Archives). Though to be sure we are learning even more damning details, such as the identical language that suggests an even higher level of coordination than was obvious before.

    (Witness the Michigan Republicans who were denied entry to the state house, and so they did their cosplay ritual in the parking lot, so as to try to claim they were doing it in the place designated for the counting. It was pretty cold that day, as I recall. Why not just go to a nice warm coffee shop or restaurant? Evidently because it was conveyed to them that doing this “in the place designated for the counting” was part of the claim they were going to make.

  109. 109.

    PPCLI

    January 18, 2022 at 10:13 am

    @Gin & Tonic: Maybe it’s a miracle if someone does ask for it.

  110. 110.

    Geminid

    January 18, 2022 at 10:16 am

    @Geminid: State Senator L. Louise Lucas started work in 1967 as an apprentice ship-fitter at the Norfolk Navy Yard, and became the first woman ship-fitter there in 1971. She was an engineering draftsman before moving on to management positions.

    While working for the Navy, Lucas earned a B.S. and a Master’s degree at Norfolk State University. After leaving federal service, she won a seat in the General Assembly in 1991, and has represented Portsmouth ever since.

    L. Louis Lucas is a fit and feisty 77 years old. The “L” is for Lillie.

  111. 111.

    Matt McIrvin

    January 18, 2022 at 10:17 am

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Mock Turtle Soup as a starter.

    To be served after a Caucus-Race.

  112. 112.

    Kay

    January 18, 2022 at 10:18 am

    @Ken:

    Texas Secretary of State
    @TXsecofstate
    ·Jan 13
    Replying to
    @TravisCoClerk
    Always, you can pick up the phone and call our office instead of calling a press conference. Much more time efficient.

    Stop telling the public we’re rejecting half their applications. Instead, call this guy:

    Texas’ new secretary of state says he wants to “restore confidence” in the state’s elections, despite a background that includes helping former President Donald Trump challenge the 2020 presidential election results in Pennsylvania.

    Nothing “restores confidence” like having your application wrongly rejected!

  113. 113.

    Matt McIrvin

    January 18, 2022 at 10:21 am

    @Ken: Fried chicken feet are a dim sum mainstay if you don’t order off the English-language menu. I’ve had them. The main trouble with them is that there’s not a lot of meat on a chicken foot. It’s a lot of work for a little bit of food, like wings but even more so, in miniature. But as a sort of amuse-bouche they’re OK.

  114. 114.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 18, 2022 at 10:22 am

    .@SecBlinken is traveling to Kyiv and Berlin to continue diplomatic engagements to resolve tensions caused by Russia. His meetings with European counterparts will include discussions of consequences for Russia if it does not de-escalate. https://t.co/CvkMzt9QE4
    — Ned Price (@StateDeptSpox) January 18, 2022

    So Blinken is going to Kyiv – maybe he can be moved to NOMINATE A FUCKING AMBASSADOR!

  115. 115.

    Baud

    January 18, 2022 at 10:22 am

    @Geminid:

    Yeah but was she ever a shady real estate developer?

  116. 116.

    different-church-lady

    January 18, 2022 at 10:22 am

    @Ken: With. You meant with, right?

  117. 117.

    Ken

    January 18, 2022 at 10:25 am

    @Matt McIrvin: I’m sure the Americanized version will wrap the chicken feet in sausage and bacon, bread and deep-fry them, and serve them with a melted cheese dipping sauce. The toes will be left sticking out at one end for the amusement value, but otherwise the foot will just be acting as a skewer.

  118. 118.

    Cermet

    January 18, 2022 at 10:26 am

    @Immanentize: Called reality and few here are aware of it or chose to ignore it. As for sexually transmitted diseases, those will increase, too. But for crustaceans, those are likely to continue to decrease. But in any case, Blue crabs freshly steamed and with Old Bay are considered the best by thinking people.

  119. 119.

    Ken

    January 18, 2022 at 10:27 am

    @different-church-lady: That would be more appropriate for a period drama set in the British Raj.

  120. 120.

    debbie

    January 18, 2022 at 10:32 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:

    Exactly!

  121. 121.

    bnatebuckeye

    January 18, 2022 at 10:32 am

    I wish I could obsess over anything as much as the media obsesses over inflation.

  122. 122.

    Denali

    January 18, 2022 at 10:34 am

    Am currently reading the Woodward and Costa book,  Peril. It reveals the forged electoral documents attempt. Why didn’t the media cover it?

  123. 123.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 18, 2022 at 10:35 am

    @Gin & Tonic:

    The Secretary of State does not nominate ambassadors AFAIK

  124. 124.

    Steve in the ATL

    January 18, 2022 at 10:43 am

    @Ken: ha!  That’s like when I’m scrolling through Netflix quickly and read part of one synopsis then part of another and wonder how that plot would make sense.

  125. 125.

    Steve in the ATL

    January 18, 2022 at 10:44 am

    @Matt McIrvin:

     

    It’s a lot of work for a little bit of food

    See also: crayfish

  126. 126.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 18, 2022 at 10:50 am

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): The Constitution gives that responsibility to the President, who customarily nominates someone recommended by (or approved by, in the case of “political” appointees) the Secretary of State. Foreign Service officers at the Ambassador rank report to the Secretary of State.

  127. 127.

    japa21

    January 18, 2022 at 10:54 am

    @Gin & Tonic: These are the things that the press corpse should be asking Psaki at the daily briefings rather than the inane questions they do ask.  Just like they should ask McConnell why he is allowing members of his caucus to hold up nominations that are essential to a smooth running government.

  128. 128.

    Ken

    January 18, 2022 at 11:03 am

    @Steve in the ATL: Sounds like a fun party game. Pry apart the movies from the combined synopsis lines.

    “Timeless MGM classic starring Judy Garland as a Kansas /
    serial killer and Henry Fonda as the detective investigating /
    the chocolate factory.”

  129. 129.

    Ramalama

    January 18, 2022 at 11:54 am

    @Kay: OMG do you have a post about this specifically that I can link to for others to see?

  130. 130.

    Uncle Cosmo

    January 18, 2022 at 12:00 pm

    @Cermet: But in any case, Blue crabs freshly steamed and with Old Bay are considered the best by thinking people.

    According to a Baltimore friend who graduated from Washington College in Chestertown, denizens of the Eastern Shore (bumpersnicker: There Is  No Life West Of The Chesapeake Bay!) would vehemently disagree – Old Bay is considered a parvenu, and the spice of choice for steaming the “beautiful swimmers” is Wye River. (I keep both on my  spice rack.)

  131. 131.

    Miss Bianca

    January 18, 2022 at 12:08 pm

    @White & Gold Purgatorian: What’s “T” stand for, then? Terra?

  132. 132.

    scav

    January 18, 2022 at 12:12 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: But heaven itself for those that are there for the crispy batter and meh about meat.

    (also amazing useful for small children with fathers squeamish around meat that looks like the original critter.)

  133. 133.

    sdhays

    January 18, 2022 at 12:42 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): If Blinken told Biden he needed an ambassador to Ukraine appointed today, the nomination would be sent to the Senate tomorrow.

    The administration seems to think it’s not a top priority, for whatever reason.

  134. 134.

    White & Gold Purgatorian

    January 18, 2022 at 12:53 pm

    @Miss Bianca:  Yes, the first “T” is for Terra. It is entirely possible I picked up this mnemonic in my youth from a sci fi novel, maybe by Heinlein or Asimov.

  135. 135.

    Jinchi

    January 18, 2022 at 1:19 pm

    @Ken: I asked about the 5 or so then-known similar Kuiper belt objects that would also have to be promoted to planetary status

    There’s an answer to that.

    A group of researchers say Pluto was unfairly maligned by a decision to relegate it to “dwarf planet” status — and that we should consider our solar system to have more than 150 planets.

    As to your comment about what your friend learned in grade school, that was pretty much Mike Brown’s motivation for kicking Pluto out of the club to begin with. He thought the idea that there might be dozens of planets in our solar system was ridiculous.

    It’s more obnoxious now that he wants to be the one credited for discovering “Planet 9” (despite the fact that he can’t actually tell us where it is).

  136. 136.

    smedley the uncertain

    January 18, 2022 at 2:04 pm

    @Ken: The Anchor Bar still has hundreds of gallons in their underground saucer.  Reserved for Bills victory galas.

  137. 137.

    smedley the uncertain

    January 18, 2022 at 2:15 pm

    @Ken: There was a well known mnemonic for Resistors.  However it is no longer politically correct.  “Bad Boys ……..”

  138. 138.

    lowtechcyclist

    January 18, 2022 at 2:44 pm

    @Jinchi:

    As to your comment about what your friend learned in grade school, that was pretty much Mike Brown’s motivation for kicking Pluto out of the club to begin with. He thought the idea that there might be dozens of planets in our solar system was ridiculous.

    You mean like they decided about the asteroids?

  139. 139.

    Citizen Alan

    January 18, 2022 at 3:38 pm

    @Ken: I just laugh at people made about Pluto because of “My very educated mother just served us nine pickles.” Honestly, have your mother serve us Nachos instead and the problem is solved. Speaking of mnemonics, I still remember how stars are ranked in terms of temperatures by “Oh, be a fine girl. Kiss me,” but I don’t remember which are the hot ones and which are the cold.

  140. 140.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    January 18, 2022 at 5:23 pm

    @Ramalama:

    There’s a link to a Kera News story in Kay’s comment.

  141. 141.

    Ramalama

    January 18, 2022 at 10:54 pm

    @Steeplejack (phone): OMG thank you. Reading retention much?

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