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Late Night Open Thread

by TaMara|  January 20, 202212:33 am| 49 Comments

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There they go again — each and every one of the Senate Republicans blocked #VotingRightForThePeople — but we won’t give up! pic.twitter.com/zPLOhVePNo

— Christine Pelosi (@sfpelosi) January 20, 2022

Tonight will be remembered in history as the night that Joe Manchin, Kyrsten Sinema, and Senate Republicans chose the racist legacy of Jim Crow over delivering voting rights.

— Congresswoman Cori Bush (@RepCori) January 20, 2022

Senate Republicans say that our fight for voting rights is divisive. As Republicans make it harder to vote in communities of color.@SenBooker responds with the facts:#VotingRIghtsForThePeople pic.twitter.com/Vvz6a9Q0A1

— Senate Democrats (@SenateDems) January 19, 2022

In our first year we achieved:

– A record number of jobs created
– A record drop in the unemployment rate
– A record drop in unemployment claims

We’re getting America back to work.

— President Biden (@POTUS) January 19, 2022

New: SCOTUS overwhelmingly rejects Trump's bid to block Jan 6 evidence.

The decision notes Trump's legal claims were so weak they would "fail" even if he were still President.

— Ari Melber (@AriMelber) January 19, 2022

Not to bring the mood down from the Kindness post, but I figure y’all need something to talk about, since today was pretty newsworthy.

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  1. 1.

    TaMara

    January 20, 2022 at 12:38 am

    I’m off to wrap up the evening and get everyone to bed. But if you want something fun, this Antiques Roadshow/Larry Bird NBA Finals Game Shoes made me and my friends very nostalgic. I got to see him play twice (with the championship teammates) and it was amazing.

    Nite all. Play nice-ish.

  2. 2.

    cain

    January 20, 2022 at 12:39 am

    Where are the press in asking these Republicans about voting rights? I suppose they don’t give a shti – the press is all about divisiveness because it sells ads.

  3. 3.

    TaMara

    January 20, 2022 at 12:41 am

    @cain: Don’t get me started on Maddow and Yamiche complaining Biden’s press conference went on too long today. They are all worthless.

  4. 4.

    Eolirin

    January 20, 2022 at 12:47 am

    @TaMara: I’m not sure Maddow has standing to complain about anything going on too long.

  5. 5.

    cain

    January 20, 2022 at 12:48 am

    @TaMara: Everyone of them. As I’ve always said, there are no good people in 24 hour news. The entire format is geared to make people emotional.

  6. 6.

    cain

    January 20, 2022 at 12:49 am

    @Eolirin: ???

  7. 7.

    West of the Rockies

    January 20, 2022 at 12:52 am

    @Eolirin:

    Far too many Maddow shows begin like this:  “In Pulaski, Tennessee in 1959, a home economics teacher named Darla Finster decided to run for city council…”

  8. 8.

    JCJ

    January 20, 2022 at 12:59 am

    @TaMara: 
    I got to see him play for Indiana State and once as a Celtic. Now I am lucky enough to occasionally see Giannis Antetokounmpo in person, but unfortunately not since the pandemic started.

  9. 9.

    Splitting Image

    January 20, 2022 at 1:02 am

    Here is a 1990 article from the New Yorker: the opening statement from Wile E. Coyote’s lawyer in his long-overdue lawsuit against the Acme Company.

    Coyote-v-Acme

  10. 10.

    Another Scott

    January 20, 2022 at 1:10 am

    We’ve got to keep our wits about us and keep pushing forward.

    In yet another example of how the FTFNYT is garbage, consider this thread. FTFNYT is pushing the crime wave story by the same guy yet again…

    THREAD. A new scandal is brewing at the New York Times. I try my best below to document the paper's corporate and police union copaganda, and to share actual evidence and research that the NYT ignores. The stakes are huge.

    — Alec Karakatsanis (@equalityAlec) January 18, 2022

    They never give up. We can’t either.

    (via Popehat)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  11. 11.

    Sebastian

    January 20, 2022 at 1:20 am

    Fuck this shit. Black Votes Count.

  12. 12.

    Sebastian

    January 20, 2022 at 1:37 am

    @Another Scott:

    I’ve seen this. It’s superb. We need a front post about this. Maybe more than one come to think of it.

    Thanks for sharing. It’s Times’ time in the barrel at long last (whilst Tucker is en route to Hungary and openly colluding with Russia)

    Shit’s about to go Kablooey everywhere at once. Thanks to awesome black women I’d like to point out. Stacey Abrams, Letitia James (Fuck Yeah! She will take EVERYTHING and expose him as LOSER and I am here for everything), and then of course the Ninja: Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis who will lock the fucker up for blatant election tampering. Although SDNY might beat her to it.

  13. 13.

    LeftCoastYankee

    January 20, 2022 at 1:51 am

    It’s time to be a bit more blunt about the 2 Filibuster Fondlers.  You are who you associate with.

    Sinema and Manchin sided with the racists.

    Any white folks trying to interpret it otherwise are themselves fueling the engines of systemic racism.

    These 2 Clowns are Racists.  Let them hear it for the rest of their days.

  14. 14.

    Mallard Filmore

    January 20, 2022 at 2:04 am

    @Sebastian: 

    Fuck this shit. Black Votes Count.

    the GOP replies, “Why are we letting darkies vote, anyway?”

  15. 15.

    Mallard Filmore

    January 20, 2022 at 2:04 am

    [duplicate post]

  16. 16.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 20, 2022 at 2:05 am

    @LeftCoastYankee: What’s that saying?

    “You may not have overt animus against people of color, but if you act in a manner that is indifferent to their rights, that tramples on their rights in order to profit from them, then you’re still a racist”.

    Grrrrr.

    TL;DR what you said.

  17. 17.

    Mallard Filmore

    January 20, 2022 at 2:08 am

    McCarthy moved off whatever social media platform he WAS on, and moved over to RUMBLE.  That is like getting off the internet and onto AOL.

  18. 18.

    Mallard Filmore

    January 20, 2022 at 2:12 am

    @Sebastian: 

    then of course the Ninja: Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis who will lock the fucker up for blatant election tampering.

    Hopefully it would be too big a political hit for the Georgia governor to pardon Trump for his state crimes.

  19. 19.

    The Dangerman

    January 20, 2022 at 2:14 am

    @LeftCoastYankee: Sinema, Mancin, Dred Scott.

  20. 20.

    Sebastian

    January 20, 2022 at 2:21 am

    @Mallard Filmore:

    Let’s have this discussion in the open because until now it wasn’t. Only voter fraud bullshit which translated means exactly what you wrote.

  21. 21.

    Bnut

    January 20, 2022 at 2:35 am

    I have been arguing this over at another site that is wonderful with war and foreign policy commentary. I say that there is literally nothing the US can do about Ukraine. Nothing. We can send missiles like the Brits. We can follow their landing ships. I am 100% sure we have our sneak and peek boys embedded everywhere. But at what point do we acquiesce to the fact that we don’t have an ounce of influence over a para-Soviet autocrat? Especially when I don’t feel comfortable telling Germany to get good with being cold this winter if they want to intervene. It almost feels like it should be bipartisan that we wait and see how many ballistic missiles hit Kiev, however terrible it will be for the civilians.

  22. 22.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    January 20, 2022 at 2:41 am

    [triplicate post in carbon copy]​

  23. 23.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 20, 2022 at 2:42 am

    @Bnut: http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.com/2022/01/it-took-red-army-almost-decade-to.html

    “It Took Red Army ‘Almost a Decade’ to Subdue Western Ukraine after 1945, Russian Specialist on Ukraine Warns Kremlin”

     

    Idunno, it seems like there’s a lot we can do:

    1. send LNG tankers to keep Germany warm
    2. cut off Russia from SWIFT
    3. expropriate all Putin’s and his boyars’ assets in the West — everywhere

    The last time, the USSR fell apart because they couldn’t get enough foreign exchange.  Well, let’s make that happen again.

  24. 24.

    Bnut

    January 20, 2022 at 2:48 am

    @Chetan Murthy: Those are all great ideas and we should do them tomorrow. I still fail to see how to head off what I see as a train that has left the station. There is no “out” for Putin at this stage in my view, not that he ever wanted one.

  25. 25.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 20, 2022 at 2:52 am

    @Bnut: You could be right.  Certainly our inability (as The West) to do anything to put the hurt on him economically has …. emboldened him.  For sure.

  26. 26.

    Bnut

    January 20, 2022 at 3:07 am

    @Chetan Murthy:  My biggest concern is the loss of life. Nobody should die (on either side) for what is a 2nd rate dictator (now Stalin, that man knew how to kill his own people). The biggest threat to Russia is Russians and that’s really the only way this ends eventually. Putin dead at his Dacha of old age or strung up like an old Italian from a gas station girder. I think we all know what is more likely.

  27. 27.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 20, 2022 at 3:09 am

    @Bnut: There was a way to make your wish come true: eye-watering economic sanctions and expropriation.  But we didn’t do it, b/c he bribed people in our governments (like in the UK, also the US).  Ah, well.

  28. 28.

    Ruckus

    January 20, 2022 at 3:10 am

    @Eolirin:

    OK I laughed out loud at that! Thank You!

  29. 29.

    ian

    January 20, 2022 at 3:11 am

    @Bnut: 

    But at what point do we acquiesce to the fact that we don’t have an ounce of influence over a para-Soviet autocrat?

    Never

    It almost feels like it should be bipartisan that we wait and see how many ballistic missiles hit Kiev

    Also no.

    Stand up to Putin. Stand against his aggression, his foreign meddling, and his wishes for the direction of world affairs. We may not be able to do a whole hell of a lot short of war, but folding our cards and waiting for Kiev to submit is not how our country and it’s allies should handle this.

  30. 30.

    Bnut

    January 20, 2022 at 3:15 am

    @Chetan Murthy: I truly wish it was that easy. Those things occurred, but I still think Putin would be doing something else to another country. The amount of buy in he has with the average Russian citizen is staggering. They want something to believe in, even if it’s a lie.

  31. 31.

    Kathleen

    January 20, 2022 at 3:16 am

    @TaMara: I wish these people would make up their minds. They whined that Biden wasn’t holding press conferences. Now they’re whining that his press conference was too long. There are no words to express the depth of my contempt and loathing of the media.

  32. 32.

    Bnut

    January 20, 2022 at 3:18 am

    @ian: So what is the next step? Sending in actual American troops? Freezing Russian accounts would be a nice start, but then we need WE to get on board. I am honestly looking for good resolutions, the ground won’t be bad for tank treads much longer.

  33. 33.

    Irishweaver

    January 20, 2022 at 3:21 am

    @TaMara: count me in on that thought.  First, it’s “he doesn’t talk to the press enough” and then this!

  34. 34.

    Ruckus

    January 20, 2022 at 3:22 am

    @cain:

    The entire format is geared to make people emotional.

    And it does. It has made me pissed off enough I don’t bother to listen to the news. I have a friend who can’t get enough news and he has to insure that he hears/sees it all. How he maintains his BP I’ll never know. The news is just repetition for exactly the reason you state. If you are pissed off and think that the news is the most important thing, you will watch, you will see/hear commercials and you will buy at least some of the stuff. I repeat this constantly – it is all about the fucking money. All those conservative shows saying that a free vaccine that actually works, that has a very good record of making a deadly disease not fucking kill you, which most of those conservative show hosts and politicians have actually taken means their entire stick is BULLSHIT. It is about money first, and then it is about control. And getting more money. It isn’t in the same dictionary as democracy.

  35. 35.

    Ruckus

    January 20, 2022 at 3:33 am

    @Chetan Murthy:

    You aren’t going to hurt vlad monetarily. You can hurt his country and his people, the one’s still alive anyway, because they really seem to have a valid reason to not believe in the Russian vaccine. But his money? He’s not going to run out of money. Or even come close. He’s profited way too much out of being the head MF in charge.

  36. 36.

    Ruckus

    January 20, 2022 at 3:38 am

    @Irishweaver:

    If they aren’t complaining it’s approval. So they complain.

    But the overwhelming level of bullshit available in 24 hr constant “news” programs is staggering. There is less bovine waste in a thousand square mile dairy. And it smells better.

  37. 37.

    bjacques

    January 20, 2022 at 3:46 am

    @Bnut: uh huh. I reckon there’s other, less public assistance on offer, probably conveyed during Anthony Blinken’s personal visit. Ukraine are already getting military support and likely access to a level of C3I and cyberwarfare support they could only dream of before. And Russia don’t own a patent on little green men.

  38. 38.

    opiejeanne

    January 20, 2022 at 4:04 am

    This is a cheery bunch tonight.

    My son’s wedding in Vegas was nice, he’s ecstatic, the bride was happy, and everyone was surprised by what a nice event it was because, well, Vegas wedding chapel. Friends he hadn’t seen in many years came, his younger sister decided to come at the last minute and that was a nice surprise for him, and his uncle came from Iowa.

    There was a nice party afterwards in the couple’s suite, cake, champagne, Martinelli’s, sandwiches, fruit, and more, and I’m now an instant grandma, with a 12-yo and a 14-yo. They’re great kids.

  39. 39.

    opiejeanne

    January 20, 2022 at 4:05 am

    @bjacques: I never mentioned it before, but I really like you, especially after this post.

  40. 40.

    Biff Baxter

    January 20, 2022 at 4:13 am

    @West of the Rockies: She loves to take the long scenic route to the point.

  41. 41.

    John S.

    January 20, 2022 at 4:20 am

    @Ruckus:

    Today will be a good day to ignore the news, because every headline will be the same:

    DEMOCRATS FAIL

    Nobody will bother to get to the 6th paragraph to read that in fact the Republicans unanimously blocked voting rights. And even for the folks that do start to read the story, they will only see that 2 out of 50 Democrats decided that democracy was less important than preserving a Senate rule.

    The only message that most people will come away with is the one the news wants them to digest:

    DEMOCRATS FAIL

  42. 42.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    January 20, 2022 at 4:36 am

    @John S.: ​
      that’s why I ignore news and stick to sports and cat memes

  43. 43.

    p.a.

    January 20, 2022 at 5:24 am

    If ‘Murcans weren’t so ignorant of our own history there could be some political profit in Dems labeling Sinemanchin as copperheads.

    Watch as they now use the vitriol coming their way as an excuse to deny ANY filibuster reform: cutouts, real talking filibusters, whatev else.

  44. 44.

    Ruckus

    January 20, 2022 at 5:24 am

    @John S.:

    Hence my first sentence. It’s almost too easy to say “It’s all bullshit all the time.” Because a lot (maybe most) of it is. Look at access on the web, how many “news” sites are free or even have X number of views/month? Not many. Almost certainly none that are worth the time of a retired person. Who has almost nothing but time… How many people here get the FTFNYT, either in paper or electron delivery? They make money selling their crap, so they are going to continue to sell crap.

  45. 45.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    January 20, 2022 at 5:50 am

    It’s very simple. The GOP is trying to destroy American democracy, and in Manchin and Sinema, the Democrats are dealing with their own Benedict Arnold and Vidkun Quisling.

  46. 46.

    lowtechcyclist

    January 20, 2022 at 6:02 am

    @John S.: Nobody will bother to get to the 6th paragraph to read that in fact the Republicans unanimously blocked voting rights.

    This. All too much this.

    There are fifty Republicans in the United States Senate, and FIFTY OUT OF FIFTY voted against voting rights.  Unanimous.

    We need a Wall of Shame where we could chisel every last one of their names into.  Yeah, and Sinemanchin too, but ZERO OUT OF FIFTY REPUBLICANS voted in favor of making sure everyone could vote and have their votes count.

    Fuck ’em all.

  47. 47.

    debbie

    January 20, 2022 at 7:15 am

    @Kathleen:

    It went longer because the press asked him to take more questions. What a disappointingly stupid thing for Rachel to say.

  48. 48.

    Kay

    January 20, 2022 at 7:37 am

    Well, I think we find out what happens with no federal civil rights protections for voters. Hasn’t been the case since 1965 so it’s uncharted waters.

    You’ll see these “voting police” in every southern state run by a Republican: 

    Former U.S. Sen. David Perdue promised Thursday to establish a new police force to investigate election fraud if elected governor of Georgia, marking the Republican’s latest attempt to energize Donald Trump supporters by channeling GOP fury over the 2020 results. Perdue also said he’d require election results to be “independently audited” before they’re certified, taking a swipe at Gov. Brian Kemp for not delaying the process. The governor was bound by law to certify the 2020 election, which ended with a slim Joe Biden victory over Trump. The proposal to create an “Election Law Enforcement Division” in Georgia echoed a plan unveiled this week by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis to establish a first-of-its-kind police force that has infuriated voting rights advocates. It’s among a string of proposals by Perdue that have put false claims of election fraud at the center of his primary challenge against Kemp.

     

  49. 49.

    Kay

    January 20, 2022 at 7:49 am

    Garrett Haake
    @GarrettHaake
    ·9h
    Republican senators are lined up to shake Sinema’s hand on the floor

    Huge win for Republicans, Manchin and Sinema. If federal civil rights protections for voters don’t matter, why are the opponents of federal civil rights protections for voters so thrilled that they’re gone?
    If the Voting Rights Act “didn’t matter” wouldn’t the conservatives on the Supreme Court have left it in place and Republicans not object to reinstating it?
    They matter a lot to people who oppose them, apparently.

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