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Sunday Evening Open Thread: Crossing the Streams

by Anne Laurie|  January 23, 202210:02 pm| 158 Comments

This post is in: COVID-19 Coronavirus, Open Threads, Sports

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NFL eliminates daily coronavirus testing of unvaccinated players https://t.co/J4Fg2Nv2qI

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) January 22, 2022

NOT GONNA BE A PROBLEM FOR AARON RODGERS…

unlike Aaron Rodgers, Joe Biden won. https://t.co/Ng1SI3QRKV

— Biden did that! (@gdigitalzsmooth) January 23, 2022

We all thought Aaron Rodgers had a shot, which has happened before

— BUM CHILLUPS AKA SPENCER HALL (@edsbs) January 23, 2022

Maybe #AaronRogers can double check w #JoeRogan about that final score. You know, its important to do your own research.

— Shaun (@anergy_913) January 23, 2022

Awesome pic.twitter.com/MvfeRxyd7J

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) January 23, 2022

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  1. 1.

    Princess Leia

    January 23, 2022 at 10:05 pm

    It was a great weekend of football. The twitter party last night was even more fun!!! SO many hilarious (and well deserved) slams on Rodgers!!! Delightful.

    .

  2. 2.

    Tom Levenson

    January 23, 2022 at 10:06 pm

    I so approve of this post.

  3. 3.

    Alison Rose

    January 23, 2022 at 10:06 pm

    “I guess he got 81 million votes” damn right you dumb fuck

  4. 4.

    Wag

    January 23, 2022 at 10:10 pm

    Aaron in that quote about Biden approaches Trumpian levels of incoherence.

  5. 5.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 23, 2022 at 10:13 pm

    It’s funny, over on the r/NFL subreddit, it seems like Aaron Rodgers choking and Tom Brady being denied another SB win has united all fans across the teams. It’s been a hell of fun time seeing those two, especially Rodgers, getting dunked on.

  6. 6.

    cope

    January 23, 2022 at 10:13 pm

    I just watched my first NFL game of the season to see a former student of mine play for Buffalo, a team I was a big fan of when the AFL first booted up oh so long ago. Gabe Davis had four TD receptions in a loosing effort in overtime. When I had him in the classroom, he was a great kid and it’s fun to see him achieve that kind of success.

    Beyond any personal connections like that, though, my interest in professional football has pretty much withered on the vine.

    Edited to add: I do enjoy seeing asswipes and fuckwads like Rogers and Brady take one on the dick though.

  7. 7.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 23, 2022 at 10:15 pm

    I also love that people are calling him Kaaron Rodgers. That’s just chef’s kiss 

  8. 8.

    Princess Leia

    January 23, 2022 at 10:17 pm

    @cope: He really was a star in the game!

  9. 9.

    Jerzy Russian

    January 23, 2022 at 10:20 pm

    I did not watch any of these games, but followed on the ESPN app.  In the past few minutes if the Bills-Chiefs game, Did the defenses have 11 men on the field, or were they short owing to having several players in the penalty box?

  10. 10.

    cope

    January 23, 2022 at 10:20 pm

    @Princess Leia: He was, I’m just sorry he won’t get a chance to play anymore this season. I will definitely have him at the top of my draft picks for my two fantasy leagues next season.

  11. 11.

    randy khan

    January 23, 2022 at 10:20 pm

    By the way, I’ve seen a report that Patrick Mahomes is not just vaccinated, but boosted.

  12. 12.

    HumboldtBlue

    January 23, 2022 at 10:23 pm

    An absolute bonkers two days of playoff football and as Princess Leia said, last night’s Twitter party dunking on Rodgers was an absolute blast.

  13. 13.

    VOR

    January 23, 2022 at 10:25 pm

    @Alison Rose: The thing is, Trump never cracked 50% approval in any major poll. Not once his entire presidency. He was never popular. Just because the same set of fanatics went to every COVID super spreader event he held doesn’t mean he was popular with the general voting population.

  14. 14.

    Mike E

    January 23, 2022 at 10:30 pm

    Lucked out with a nice sunny day amid two wintry weather weekends and got to do my January art museum visit with Miss E, last day of the Alphonse Mucha show, lovely… same place and time of year where/when we caught Georgia O’Keeffe and Frida Kahlo shows, except last January’s show was postponed of course due to covid.

  15. 15.

    Other MJS

    January 23, 2022 at 10:30 pm

    OMG this one.

    The good thing for Aaron Rodgers is that losing to the same team 4 times in the playoffs builds natural immunity.

  16. 16.

    Scout211

    January 23, 2022 at 10:30 pm

    And on the same general subject, consider John Stockton. I used to admire the former NBA Star, but now he’s just another anti-vaccine, anti-mask (former) athlete. He recently had his season tickets suspended by  Gonzaga for refusing to wear a mask at the home games. He also is busy spreading disinformation and lies about the vaccine. What is wrong with these people? (Not a real question).

    CNN)Gonzaga University has suspended season tickets for one of its most notable alumni and Hall of Fame basketball player John Stockton after he refused to comply with the school’s mask mandates at games, he said in an interview with The Spokesman-Review in Washington.
    The former Utah Jazz point guard confirmed the school suspended his tickets in an interview Saturday.

    Stockton has been vocal about his feelings against Covid-19 vaccines, lockdowns and mask mandates, according to the Spokesman-Review. He previously expressed his views in the documentary “COVID and the Vaccine: Truth, Lies and Misconceptions Revealed” that includes commentary from doctors known for spreading misinformation.
    . . .
    In the documentary interview, Stockton seems to suggest more than 100 professional athletes have died due to vaccination, yet there is no evidence to support such a claim.
    “I think it’s highly recorded now, there’s 150 I believe now, it’s over 100 professional athletes dead — professional athletes — the prime of their life, dropping dead that are vaccinated, right on the pitch, right on the field, right on the court,” Stockton said in the documentary interview.

  17. 17.

    Captain C

    January 23, 2022 at 10:31 pm

    There’s still a chance we’ll see the third ever Bengals-49ers Super Bowl.

    ETA: Which would mean that all three Bengals Super Bowl appearances would be/have been against the ‘Niners.

  18. 18.

    debbie

    January 23, 2022 at 10:32 pm

    @Wag:

    Exactly.

  19. 19.

    dmsilev

    January 23, 2022 at 10:33 pm

    Does Mike Pence have the courage needed to overturn the game score?

  20. 20.

    Suzanne

    January 23, 2022 at 10:35 pm

    @cope:

    I do enjoy seeing asswipes and fuckwads like Rogers and Brady take one on the dick though. 

    Agree. I find football super-dull, but I like watching assholes lose and be humiliated. In sports and in politics.

  21. 21.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 23, 2022 at 10:35 pm

    @Scout211: I don’t follow basketball, but I remember when Stockton played for the Jazz (IIRC) and when he took free-throws, he’d tap a band he wore around his (left, I think) arm.  the play-by-play announcer explained that when he did this, he was telling his family that he was thinking of them.

    I thought: wow, that’s really a wonderful thing, he must be a wonderful man, to do that.  It’s all I remember about him.  That, and, well, now I learn that he’s an antivaxxer antimasker asshole.

    Sigh.

  22. 22.

    debbie

    January 23, 2022 at 10:35 pm

    @Scout211:

    WTF does “highly recorded“ even mean? Why can’t these guys even talk good? //

  23. 23.

    Jerzy Russian

    January 23, 2022 at 10:36 pm

    Doesn’t Rodgers have a publicist or an agent who can sit him down and tell him to Shut The Fuck Up?  I remember long ago Phil Mickelson complaining about high taxes on a ~75 million dollar per year salary.  The responses were predictable (I will trade jobs with you to relieve you of that burden was a popular response).  A day or two later Mickelson put out a statement backtracking after being urged to do so by his publicist.  I imagine the session went something like this:  “Phil, you make $75 million a year.  Can’t you just Shut The Fuck Up?”    Rodgers is sorely on need of a similar session.

  24. 24.

    HumboldtBlue

    January 23, 2022 at 10:37 pm

    @Captain C: ​ 

    If you had said that out loud two months ago you would have been scoffed at.

    Now it’s a real possibility.

  25. 25.

    Alison Rose

    January 23, 2022 at 10:37 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Does Mike Pence have the courage needed to overturn the game score?

    FTFY and the answer is no

  26. 26.

    Jeffro

    January 23, 2022 at 10:37 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I’m right there with them!

    What an absolutely insane weekend of football, with that CHIEFS WIN topping it all off!

    Twitter has been on fire with the Rodgers dunks and I am so, so here for it.

    But man…WHAT a WIN!

  27. 27.

    dmsilev

    January 23, 2022 at 10:37 pm

    Schadenfreude towards a different, though probably overlapping, set of idiots:

    Bitcoin drops to six-month low as investors dump speculative assets

    Digital tulips now cost roughly half as much as they did three months ago.

  28. 28.

    dmsilev

    January 23, 2022 at 10:38 pm

    @Alison Rose: Fair point.

  29. 29.

    satby

    January 23, 2022 at 10:39 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: last night’s Twitter party dunking on Rodgers was an absolute blast.

    Yeah, it was HYSTERICAL and I don’t even watch any sportsball.

  30. 30.

    Jeffro

    January 23, 2022 at 10:39 pm

    @Alison Rose: seccccccconded!  ?

  31. 31.

    Jerzy Russian

    January 23, 2022 at 10:39 pm

    @debbie:   To answer your rhetorical question, many of them are just not that smart.

  32. 32.

    HumboldtBlue

    January 23, 2022 at 10:39 pm

    @Jerzy Russian: ​ 

    Rodgers is sorely on need of a similar session.

    You mean going on Joe Rogan’s show and then on several NFL podcasts where you display your ignorance and lack of self-awareness in the most condescending and off-putting way isn’t a winning strategy?

  33. 33.

    Kay

    January 23, 2022 at 10:40 pm

    @Scout211:

    I get emails from an anti-vaxxer I know quite well. I blocked her email once but she must have a new address because I’m getting them again. She has covid. She writes “covid” and then continues with “what they’re calling covid” in case anyone missed the meaning of putting covid in quotes. I feel sorry for her husband – a really nice man- and hope he secretly got vaccinated.

  34. 34.

    Suzanne

    January 23, 2022 at 10:41 pm

    One interesting thing since being in PGH…. I have seen some interesting grappling in local press with the reality that Ben Roethlisberger is (probably) a rapist. Better late than never, I suppose.

  35. 35.

    Jeffro

    January 23, 2022 at 10:42 pm

    @Captain C: let’s hope it doesn’t come to that, but yes, it would be an exciting rematch!

    (As would Chiefs-Niners!)

    These last 4 teams are all great; I’m just glad the Chiefs don’t have to play the Titans or Bucs, and somehow got past the Bills.  Wow.

  36. 36.

    dmsilev

    January 23, 2022 at 10:45 pm

    @Kay: Blocking her new address is probably the sensible thing to do, but there’s still that temptation to respond by offering to send her a tube of horse dewormer.

  37. 37.

    dnfree

    January 23, 2022 at 10:45 pm

    @cope: our daughter used to have Jimmy Garoppolo as a student.  Nice to have some connection.

  38. 38.

    Jerzy Russian

    January 23, 2022 at 10:46 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:   I am not sure about endorsements, but don’t sports agents typically take a percentage of the athlete’s salary?  I would think it would be in the agent’s best interest to keep his clients from making asses out of themselves.  If they get a cut of the endorsement dollars the incentive is even bigger.

  39. 39.

    HumboldtBlue

    January 23, 2022 at 10:49 pm

    Also from Twitter:

    Aaron Rodgers manged to get an entire country to root against the team whose business model and ownership is the most progressive in the NFL and root FOR the team that fired Colin Kaepernick. Good job, Aaron.

  40. 40.

    randy khan

    January 23, 2022 at 10:49 pm

    @Scout211:

    The thing that’s really amazing about the stuff from Stockton is, well, imagine if 150 pro athletes had died from being vaccinated.  It would be all over the news.  So it’s utterly bonkers.

  41. 41.

    Steeplejack

    January 23, 2022 at 10:53 pm

    Also from Twitter: “Aaron Rodgers is looking for someone to help him find four more points.”

    Also: “Okay, they can start testing unvaccinated players again.”

  42. 42.

    HumboldtBlue

    January 23, 2022 at 10:54 pm

    @Jerzy Russian: ​ 

    I don’t know how it’s structured between Rodgers and his agent, David Dunn, but whatever it is, it hasn’t stopped Rodgers from stepping on his own dick repeatedly.

  43. 43.

    dmsilev

    January 23, 2022 at 10:54 pm

    @randy khan: Also, how many active pro athletes are there in the country? A few tens of thousands maybe, so about 1/10,000 of the population. If 150 young fit people died from the vaccines, the overall death toll from the country as a whole would be ten thousand or more times larger, or pushing two million people. That’s …hard to hide.

    Math. It has uses.

  44. 44.

    Kay

    January 23, 2022 at 10:57 pm

    Bill Maher
    @billmaher
    · Jan 22
    “This [pandemic] is going to be remembered by the younger generation as a catastrophic moral crime.” -@BariWeiss

    I just wanted to comment on this because I had a kid in high school when covid hit – he’s now in college- the kids I encountered during this period were much less whiny about it than the adults, certainly much less whiny than Bill Mahr and Bari Weiss. So maybe they should hold off a bit before making pronoucements about what a huge group of people – people who are at least twenty five years younger than them (and don’t know who either of them are) – think about anything.

    Why can’t they just bitch about masks and vaccines like the rest of the Right wing? They have to pretend to be prosecuting a “catastrophic moral crime” because they’re Big Thinkers with Important Thoughts.

  45. 45.

    Another Scott

    January 23, 2022 at 10:57 pm

    ObOpenThread – Well, this is something one doesn’t see on political Twitter very often…

    Last week saw a bill about ivermectin in the Senate of Virginia. That is the substance I use to deworm equine. Lots of statements were made. Had me thinking many people need to go back and review Plato's Allegory of the Cave.

    — Creigh Deeds (@CreighDeeds) January 23, 2022

    (via ssurovell)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  46. 46.

    TriassicSands

    January 23, 2022 at 10:59 pm

    “It’s because him and his… — A. Rodgers

    Did Rodgers graduate from high school? He really needs to work on his grammar, which is as bad as his medical advice. Dumb-ass.

  47. 47.

    Suzanne

    January 23, 2022 at 11:02 pm

    @Kay: I don’t know, I will remember this pandemic as a catastrophic moral crime. It’s even more clear than ever that close to half of this country actively wants to kill the other half, and the only thing stopping them is that a chunk of them are killing themselves first. It’s staggering.

  48. 48.

    Kay

    January 23, 2022 at 11:02 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Oh, I don’t respond. I often don’t read them but I read this one because “I have ‘covid’ was the first line and I do like her husband. Secret vaccine was the way to go there- maybe he did. Takes a half hour, 40 minutes. He could be to the drugstore and back with no problem.

  49. 49.

    Ken

    January 23, 2022 at 11:02 pm

    @Wag: Aaron in that quote about Biden approaches Trumpian levels of incoherence.

    Aaron has the excuse that several times a year, very large men hit him very hard and then fall on top of him.

  50. 50.

    dmsilev

    January 23, 2022 at 11:04 pm

    @Kay: The college kids I interact with aren’t particularly traumatized by wearing a mask or being ‘forced’ to get vaccinated. They don’t particularly enjoy wearing masks all day, but they by and large do it and that’s really the end of the story.

    Hard to build a tv rant around that though.

  51. 51.

    Steeplejack

    January 23, 2022 at 11:05 pm

    @Jerzy Russian:

    I remember Mickelson getting reamed by people pointing out that he learned to play golf on public (taxpayer-funded) courses.

  52. 52.

    dmsilev

    January 23, 2022 at 11:05 pm

    @Ken: Can we arrange that for Trump? I’m sure there’d be a large paying audience.

  53. 53.

    Alison Rose

    January 23, 2022 at 11:06 pm

    @Ken: kinky

  54. 54.

    Ken

    January 23, 2022 at 11:07 pm

    @dmsilev: Digital tulips now cost roughly half as much as they did three months ago.

    I’m sure all the true believers are saying “Buy the dip!” I suspect so are the people who bought into it three months ago thinking they could make a quick buck in a bubble market.  (And found out they were the bigger fool of this bubble.)

  55. 55.

    zhena gogolia

    January 23, 2022 at 11:07 pm

    @Suzanne: I doubt that that’s what Bari Weiss means by it.

  56. 56.

    Steeplejack

    January 23, 2022 at 11:10 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    Glad you got that! I wanted it here, but I couldn’t remember where on Twitter I saw it.

  57. 57.

    Ken

    January 23, 2022 at 11:10 pm

    @dmsilev: They don’t particularly enjoy wearing masks all day

    I am half-expecting one of the red states to accidentally repeat all laws against indecent exposure, with a less-than-competently-drafted law forbidding mask mandates.

  58. 58.

    Kay

    January 23, 2022 at 11:10 pm

    @Suzanne:

    I don’t know what they think about it. I took my son and his (new!) gf to breakfast a couple of weeks ago- they’re both college freshman- and I tried to get them talking about it by asking if they thought the college rule where they have to wear masks outdoors made sense. She shrugged, he said nothing, and they started talking about something else. I got no sense that they thought they had been the victims of a “catastrophic moral crime”. If I had to say one “issue” they worry about it seems to be climate change and that was true of his friends in high school too.

  59. 59.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 23, 2022 at 11:10 pm

    @Suzanne:

    I will remember this pandemic as a catastrophic moral crime.

    An entire year of being mortally afraid for our loved ones.  And for many, losing their loved ones.  And even now, we still have some fear for our elders’ safety.   It is as you say, just so.

  60. 60.

    Shalimar

    January 23, 2022 at 11:12 pm

    @Suzanne:  There is next to 0 chance Roethlisberger only did that kind of harassment/intimidation/force thing once. I would bet money on over 10 times before I would bet on it having been a scam/lie.

  61. 61.

    Ken

    January 23, 2022 at 11:15 pm

    @Kay: This gives me an idea for a crime novel, where a husband gets rid of his inconvenient wife by smothering her with a pillow and blaming COVID. Pity I can’t write.

  62. 62.

    Kay

    January 23, 2022 at 11:17 pm

    @dmsilev:

    but they by and large do it and that’s really the end of the story.

    That’s how they were in high school, too. Really surprising where I live since it’s so Trumpy and they were hearing all kinds of things at home about violations of the Geneva Conventions and such.

    I agree it was hard on them- the whole thing- but can you really just ground your grievance on a huge group of people without at least asking some of them? I genuinely wonder what they’ll think about it when they’re older, but I would never presume to know. I had an entirely different experience then they did.

  63. 63.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 23, 2022 at 11:18 pm

    @Kay:

    In this same vein, it’s amazing how the defenders of Kristen Sienma on Twitter rationalize her defense of the filibuster.

    Get this: according to them, the various Voting Rights acts proposed in Congress are a “federal power grab” of elections. Oh, and the last two filibusters of the John Lewis Voting Rights Act prove democracy is alive and well. Oh, and anybody criticizing Sinema and Manchin is a #fascist. I’d like to ask these people if I had a Twitter account if they think the 1965 VRA was “federal power grab”.

    The sky is green and the grass is blue, up is down, and war is peace, I guess with these assholes

    I suspect that there’s a strong overlap between these people and those in 2020 who denied that Mitch’s stacking the courts and stealing Obama’s SC pick was court packing

  64. 64.

    Kay

    January 23, 2022 at 11:19 pm

    @Ken:

    Oh God, she is such an insistent person. I cannot imagine what antivaxx would do to her. I can kind of imagine because I got several emails a day and she evaded my block.

    He might be gone by now. Not dead. Just fled.

  65. 65.

    Morzer

    January 23, 2022 at 11:20 pm

    So many people are needling Rodgers after his latest playoff loss, you’d have to think he’s an immune zone all on his very ownsome.

  66. 66.

    HumboldtBlue

    January 23, 2022 at 11:21 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    Second best was:

    The good thing for Aaron Rodgers is losing to the same team four times in the playoffs builds up natural immunity.

    Two of those losses, as pointed out last night, were to Colin Kaepernick.

  67. 67.

    Ruckus

    January 23, 2022 at 11:22 pm

    @Jerzy Russian:

    I don’t think he will be for long. For all the hype he seems to just not be worth it. At All. Sure we all have bad days, but not all of us make our bad days so far worse by opening our mouths and showing everyone exactly who we are.

  68. 68.

    TriassicSands

    January 23, 2022 at 11:23 pm

    @dmsilev:

    I wonder if Mayor Bitcoin in NYC is sad?

  69. 69.

    Ruckus

    January 23, 2022 at 11:24 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Isn’t it funny that a totally speculative scam seems to be unable to actually play the game.

    See how I made this in the spirt of the post…….

  70. 70.

    Suzanne

    January 23, 2022 at 11:24 pm

    @Kay: Spawn the Elder is 18 and he definitely has strong opinions about it. He was supposed to enforce mask-wearing by himself at a Walmart, with no security. I told him to quit. Fuck that shit. He is pretty damn salty about :::gestures vaguely:::.

  71. 71.

    Ruckus

    January 23, 2022 at 11:25 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    Who’d a thunk it?

  72. 72.

    Ruckus

    January 23, 2022 at 11:29 pm

    @dmsilev:

    The new thing is eating pig skin beauty cream.

    It doesn’t cure anything but it does put a lovely barnyard scent to your farts.

  73. 73.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 23, 2022 at 11:29 pm

    @Suzanne:

    He was supposed to enforce mask-wearing by himself at a Walmart, with no security.

    I know Spawn the Elder is 18, but still, that’s child abuse.  You did right by recommending he quit.

  74. 74.

    Kay

    January 23, 2022 at 11:31 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    It was inevitable that they would end up opposed to federal civil rights laws protecting voting – this was going nowhere else. Because they have to be. If the filibuster is more important than voting rights then voting rights have to be tiered as unimportant. There’s no other way to square this.

    Obviously I think they’re wrong, but they won and we will now find out if we don’t need federal civil rights laws protecting the right to vote.

    I think putting state incumbent politicians and incumbent Parties in charge of who gets to vote has some obvious problems with the self interest of incumbents being to remain in power, but my side lost.  States rights won. Each state will now decide- maybe they’ll let you register and vote aaaannnnd- maybe they won’t.

    But we will have the filibuster. Because a 1975 senate rule that applies to exactly 100 powerful people is more important than the right to vote for 350 million.

  75. 75.

    Captain C

    January 23, 2022 at 11:32 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: Kaepernick would likely have been no worse than the 20th or so best quarterback in the league since the blacklist started. The one and only saving grace is all the football hits he hasn’t taken the last half-decade.

  76. 76.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 23, 2022 at 11:32 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I also love that people are calling him Kaaron Rodgers. That’s just chef’s kiss

    SNORT!  That’s genius!

  77. 77.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 23, 2022 at 11:32 pm

    @Suzanne:

    Almost nobody’s wearing masks anymore where I live. I actually brought up the fact that a local hospital system was under crisis standards of care because of too many COVID patients/low staffing levels to a few customers. Most of them have no idea what crisis standards of care even mean. I have to explain to them it means care has to be rationed.

    I had one guy today explain to me he was fully vaxxed and there was nothing he could do further. I guess wearing a mask indoors is something he couldn’t do apparently.

    Assuming he was telling the truth, I suspect there are quite a few “Vaxxed and Done” people out there who just want to pretend the pandemic is over along with the anti-vaxxers/anti-maskers. Nevermind the hospitals and and healthcare workers being stretched to their limits, putting us all at risk.

    I hate their smiling faces as they act like nothing is wrong. It’s like they act intentionally obtuse

  78. 78.

    Ruckus

    January 23, 2022 at 11:32 pm

    @dmsilev:

    He don’t need no maths, he can throw a football..

    …..

    Oh wait I see the flaw in that argument.

  79. 79.

    dmsilev

    January 23, 2022 at 11:32 pm

    @Suzanne: Oof. Yeah, quitting sounds like the right thing to do there.

  80. 80.

    dmsilev

    January 23, 2022 at 11:34 pm

    @Ruckus: Fortunately or not, math is like the virus: it doesn’t matter whether or not you believe in them.

  81. 81.

    Suzanne

    January 23, 2022 at 11:36 pm

    @Chetan Murthy: He was 17 at the time, and he’s trans and small. I do not want him interacting with crazy Trumpy people. It is psychotic.

  82. 82.

    James E Powell

    January 23, 2022 at 11:36 pm

    @Kay:

    Is Bari Weiss Maher’s  new right-wing honey now that Ann Coulter has aged out? He just turned 66; he has no idea what school age children think or go through.

    Schools are open all over the country. Here in Los Angeles, we had one day delay starting the spring semester so everyone could get tested. We are fine. The students are fine. I’ve got like two students who are pain in the ass mask removers. Everyone else just wears masks.

    The catastrophic moral crime is that the Republicans are working very hard to make the pandemic worse and longer lasting. But for some reason, the press/media do not want to give them any blame for the deaths they cause.

    Why do you think that is so?

  83. 83.

    Ruckus

    January 23, 2022 at 11:37 pm

    @Ken:

    Aaron has the excuse that several times a year, very large men hit him very hard and then fall on top of him.

    As he seems to prove pretty much any time he opens his mouth.

  84. 84.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 23, 2022 at 11:37 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    I hate their smiling faces as they act like nothing is wrong

    I share your anger and hatred.  When I see people on the bus (well, in mid-December, since I haven’t been out of the house since) who are unmasked, I inform the driver (who instructs them to mask up, since it’s his life on the line too) and if the miscreants don’t, I yell at ’em.  Ditto dicknoses.

    It’s a viral soup out there.  We all have to do our part.

  85. 85.

    Kay

    January 23, 2022 at 11:37 pm

    @Suzanne:

    Ha! Mine worked at Wal Mart too. He was the runner- runs your groceries out to the car. He got in trouble for dallying too long at the cars, talking. He’s very friendly! NOT a crime, I told him  :)

    He liked that they got paid for quarantines after an exposure a lot, but I read they cut that off.

  86. 86.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 23, 2022 at 11:39 pm

    @James E Powell:

    Is Bari Weiss Maher’s new right-wing honey

    IIRC, the despicable Weiss is an out lesbian.  Which … well, there are despicable people of all races, religions, genders, and sexual preferences.  Whaddayagonnadooo ?

  87. 87.

    Kay

    January 23, 2022 at 11:42 pm

    @James E Powell:

    Oh, they all lost interest in “schools” once they could no longer demonize labor unions. They don’t care if anyone is in the school- it just needs to be open. Once it became “but…we have no bus drivers” it stopped being a moral issue. Just Big Ideas. Don’t bother them with details.

  88. 88.

    Ruckus

    January 23, 2022 at 11:45 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    It’s like they act intentionally obtuse

    It might be because they are not acting at being intentionally fucking stupid.

  89. 89.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 23, 2022 at 11:46 pm

    Rodgers is a dick, and an antivaxx/antimask enemy of decency.  But at least, in defeat he’s not been a total ass.  The dril guy on twitter reminds me that I don’t gotta hand it to him, no at all.  So I won’t.  But still, I guess, he hasn’t covered himself in ridicule in the way he handled defeat.  Which, maybe, is something.  Idunno.

    https://nypost.com/2022/01/23/aaron-rodgers-career-may-have-just-ended-in-shocking-thud/

  90. 90.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 23, 2022 at 11:46 pm

    @Kay:

    Sinema and Manchin can’t be allowed to walk away into the sunset if Dems lose both houses of Congress if no voting protections are passed because it will likely mean we will not be in the majority for the next decade at least at the federal level. American democracy will be dead

    I mean fuck, Newt Ginrich is saying 1/6 Commission members should be jailed if Republicans retake Congress

  91. 91.

    Suzanne

    January 23, 2022 at 11:49 pm

    @James E Powell: We just came off of a week of remote learning because the number of Covid cases exceeded five percent of the school, so the physical campus was closed. Then there was a holiday and a couple of snow days in there, too. We are down from our peak, but still high. I am lucky in that SuzMom lives with us and handles lunch when Spawn is home. Everyone at school does a good job with masking that I can see. Honestly, I wouldn’t mind if they just closed until the end of the month, but I know that is not every family’s situation.

  92. 92.

    rikyrah

    January 23, 2022 at 11:56 pm

    How the entire Twitterverse just had a ball when Greenbay lost????

  93. 93.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 23, 2022 at 11:59 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I know how you feel.  But …. if and when that happens, I think we’ll all have more … um ….. pressing matters on our minds.  Adam Silverman said it, right?  “If you’re vulnerable, you need to be making your plans now, for what you will do when the time comes, so that you don’t need to scramble under pressure.”  We’ll be busy trying to save ourselves and others, and there won’t be time for hunting for scalps.

    And …. in that time of extremis, I suspect that people won’t want to give the GrOPers and their MAGAt horde ideas.

  94. 94.

    HumboldtBlue

    January 24, 2022 at 12:07 am

    In other awesome sports news, three U.S. women have made it to the Aussie quarterfinals and Ayoka Lee of Kansas State just set the NCAA record for most points in a game with 61 against No. 14 Oklahoma.

  95. 95.

    Mathguy

    January 24, 2022 at 12:09 am

    Just wanted to mention that Stockton was considered to be one of the dirtiest player in the NBA during his tenure.

  96. 96.

    Suzanne

    January 24, 2022 at 12:10 am

    @Chetan Murthy: How can we fucking “make plans”? Like, da hell?! We have to have somewhere to live and work.

  97. 97.

    HumboldtBlue

    January 24, 2022 at 12:10 am

    @Chetan Murthy: ​ 

    Fuck him, no one gives a shit about how he handled defeat, he’s a selfish prick and folks getting to dunk on his ass after he and his team shat the bed yet again is wholly deserved and hilariously funny.

  98. 98.

    Steeplejack

    January 24, 2022 at 12:13 am

    @HumboldtBlue:

    That one was good  too.

    The thing that kills me is that Rodges is genuinely hip and funny in the State Farm TV commercials. Quite a difference.

  99. 99.

    sab

    January 24, 2022 at 12:18 am

    I am so disappoimted. I don’t follow football much but I did like him on jeopardy.

  100. 100.

    HumboldtBlue

    January 24, 2022 at 12:22 am

    @Mathguy: ​ 

    And he was widely respected for it.

  101. 101.

    frosty

    January 24, 2022 at 12:25 am

    @Suzanne: Us anti-Steelers have been calling him Rapeslisberger for years. That was when the Steelers were calling Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis a murderer. Both claims have some supporting evidence. But hey, going back to high school, football players get a pass … until they’re not playing any more.

  102. 102.

    HumboldtBlue

    January 24, 2022 at 12:26 am

    @Steeplejack: @sab:

    I covered him in Junior College at Butte and watched him a bit at Cal and was mildly surprised he became the pro he was. In fact, I always thought he was far more liberal than this latest ass-showing has revealed, and it’s caught me a bit offside.

    I seem to remember he came from a pretty conservative Christian family that he had issues with and broke away from, but then the next thing you know he’s on Rogan.

  103. 103.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 24, 2022 at 12:28 am

    @HumboldtBlue: I agree with you completely: he’s an antivaxx/antimask MAGAt (his own words convict him).  And everybody who’s dunking on him, is right to do so.  I only mean that, well, at least he had the courage to take his lumps like a man.  It’s not much, but it’s something.

  104. 104.

    HumboldtBlue

    January 24, 2022 at 12:32 am

    @Chetan Murthy:

    Gotcha, and I didn’t mean it as a shot at you, I got what you were saying.

  105. 105.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 24, 2022 at 12:36 am

    @HumboldtBlue: Oh, no worries.  We’re all stretched out by these last two five years.  And for sure, I also was gleeful at Rodgers’ loss.  Serves him right.

  106. 106.

    sab

    January 24, 2022 at 12:41 am

    @sab: Also too, I remember when husband desperately hoped Browns would hire him.

    He probably wouldn’t have liked the climate. Cold and damp here.

  107. 107.

    Ruckus

    January 24, 2022 at 1:15 am

    @Mathguy:

    I’ve seen college guys that could play as dirty as anyone.

    I lived not far from UCLA and on Thursdays Polly used to be open play. My neighbors and I would head over to play and to see far better players. I’m not that tall but used to be a pretty good shot , at least for a non any kind of league player. One Thursday a fella on the UCLA squad stopped by for a bit of teaching – of the entire building. I really, really did not want to get within arms length of that guy. I did after all have to work for a living with my hands and all those parts they are attached to. Amazing how easy he made it look. Years later I worked in pro sports, a different sport, and the best competitors were the same. They could do things that mere mortals could not. And took and made risks beyond any that mere mortals could. Once had a discussion with one who had won numerous championships and he couldn’t understand how a newer guy did what he did. He was flabbergasted at his competitor’s skills and daring.

  108. 108.

    sab

    January 24, 2022 at 1:21 am

    Probably shouldn’t whine here about this since this has been the condition of humanity forever.

    One of the things I hate about Covid is having to repond to other householders concerns. I am not a monster, but my husband has a really bad back ( has been repeatedly subject to surgery), but he is a guy and feels the need to protect me. Even from stuff I am good at and have done routinely long since before he ever met me. Like snow shovelling. Big dog walking. Grocery shopping in bad weather. Snow shovelling. Going to the grocery after dark.

    Also driving. I do know how to drive, even in snow.

    I have a heart condition, but it is a rhythmia problem. If I go slow and don’t make my heart go too zippy I am fine. My husband is a 70+ plus male and if he overdoes ( shovels too fast)  in the yard he may well have a heart attack.

    We start so many fights protecting each other that it is ridiculous.

  109. 109.

    Jay

    January 24, 2022 at 1:23 am

    @dmsilev:

    I work with a bunch of University “kids”, who work part time.

    They are pissed that from BCIT to UBC, they have basically abandoned Covid protocols, for reasons ranging from Proff’s not wanting to do the work of remote, to $$$.

    Corp delivered today. 15 self tests for each employee now that you can’t buy a rapid test for love or money, and the only way to get a PCR test is to be admitted to a hospital.

    First week of Feb, MN95’s, 50 pack for each employee, havn’t seen an N95 or MN95 on the shelves since May, 2020.

    Everybody at work has been a little freaked out the last 2 days. Every department had peak season coverage for staffing. They are “overstaffing” now by 35% because the first 3 weeks of Omicron cost the Corp $165 million in lost sales, because of Omicron.

  110. 110.

    NotMax

    January 24, 2022 at 1:30 am

    @Ruckus

    The new thing is eating pig skin beauty cream.

    As useless in virus protection, but at least they could display a modicum of panache and opt for pig’s blood chocolate bars.

    This is a real item, BTW.

    Added ingredients Weihrauch, rotwein, blut, kornblume = incense, red wine, blood, cornflower

    ;)

  111. 111.

    Ruckus

    January 24, 2022 at 1:33 am

    @Jay:

    I just got a shipment of 10 N95 and 10 N99 masks on Friday and I ordered them on Monday. They aren’t exactly what I wanted but they are good. I doubt there are many places to walk into and buy masks but people here say they are available at Lowes and Home Depot. This is the third time I’ve ordered from the same place. Well Before. On the web.

  112. 112.

    Ruckus

    January 24, 2022 at 1:35 am

    @NotMax:

    Pass. I’m allergic to blood…..

  113. 113.

    sab

    January 24, 2022 at 1:39 am

    @Ruckus: Jeez. What kind of vampire could you ever be… Oh yes, got our guard down.

  114. 114.

    Another Scott

    January 24, 2022 at 1:58 am

    A depressing view of how VVP may be figuring how a new invasion of Ukraine would go.

    A month ago on this site I predicted that Putin is likely to invade Ukraine this winter. Since then the White House, among others, have come out with a similar assessment.

    Let’s talk now about how such invasion may unfold and what its primary goals might be ? https://t.co/oFEiswnEv6

    — Dmitri Alperovitch (@DAlperovitch) January 23, 2022

    (via Popehat)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  115. 115.

    Jay

    January 24, 2022 at 1:59 am

    @Ruckus:

    Here, I can order on line, gotta vet them of course, no Idea when they will be delivered,

    Corp, ( until the MN95’s arrive) say I have to wear a medical mask, then, overtop, or underneath, I can wear any mask I want. Corp provides the medical mask.

    Fully understand as in early Covid, when “masks” were “mandated”, some were just sequins, some were fish nets, some were just plastic mouth shields

    So far, I have been wearing a medical mask, ( changed every2 hours), underneath a 2 tight cloth layer fitted mask, with Covid M116 filters in the filter pocket, ( changed every 2 hours).

    I will be glad to don a certified, Corp supplied, MN95 instead of the Medical mask, underneath my fitted cloth/M116 mask.

    A few people have been wearing “bought” N95s/MN95’s under/over the medical mask, but here, they arn’t easy to get. Even the hospitals are still having a hard time getting them.

    I still have half a dozen 3M N95’s, but I have been saving them for the Zombie apocalypse or Covid 9.1, ( Not a Windows Product, as far as I know).

  116. 116.

    Arclite

    January 24, 2022 at 2:00 am

    My own Aaron Rodgers joke to my friends:

    “If Aaron Rodgers had been vaccinated, he could have used his 5G connectivity to better locate his teammates for more accurate passing.” ?

  117. 117.

    Arclite

    January 24, 2022 at 2:01 am

    My own Aaron Rodgers joke to my friends:

    “If Aaron Rodgers had been vaccinated, he could have used his 5G connectivity to better locate his teammates for more accurate passing.” ?

  118. 118.

    sab

    January 24, 2022 at 2:09 am

    Back to Watergirl about interrupting important threads and also about Amanda Gorman.

    I was a lot startled about that thread. I loved her poem, but I thought she was way too young to be so much in the spotlight. I was concerned about media saturation. Stupid me.

    I had no idea that she herself  was so horribly aware of the risks. I thought her risk was bad  snarky press. Not actual death threats. So she was already in the spotlight.

    Watergirl focussed us on that. As always, thank you.

    Also, some of my tone policing cracks were in that context

    ETA I was trying to protect a yoing girl that you were protecting much more effectively than I was.

  119. 119.

    Jay

    January 24, 2022 at 2:10 am

    @Another Scott:

    keep in mind, it’s only a few weeks to Mud Season, then, nothing until June.

    Mid December would have been the “time to go”,

    More so because the Russians would have been into a month of “field exercises”, trained up, coordinated, but not after 3 months in the field, exhausted.

    Short, quick, sharp, then hide behind General Mud would be a plan, but Ukraine has seriously upped their drone game, and we know how well Russian tactics worked out for Armenia against Azerbaijan.

  120. 120.

    Jay

    January 24, 2022 at 2:17 am

    @sab:

    I work with a lot of both young and old, “visible minorities”.

    Yes, they are aware of the threats and harassment that “standing up” can bring them.

    Many of them stand up every day, aware of the risks.

    I am lucky to know them.

  121. 121.

    sab

    January 24, 2022 at 2:25 am

    @Jay: Yes

  122. 122.

    prostratedragon

    January 24, 2022 at 2:26 am

    @dmsilev:  Given his track record I’d make a small bet that it’s already happened several times over the years.

  123. 123.

    Jay

    January 24, 2022 at 2:27 am

    @sab:

    we are “old”, “oldish”, “aged”, “seasoned”?

    Gamergate isn’t something that happened to us.

  124. 124.

    Jay

    January 24, 2022 at 2:37 am

    @sab:

    Corp threw down on Fasad,

    I pointed out to him, than they had never really “trained him”.

    15 minutes on a shift change is garbage, online training on how to assemble a cabinet, ( when he had graduated from the School of Ikea 5 years ago), was not the same thing as learning how to get his benefits, let alone deal with a gas powered centrifugal waste water pump, or a 5500 kw generator, or a KX71 excavator,

    He pushed back, and is still “here”.

  125. 125.

    NotMax

    January 24, 2022 at 2:39 am

    @Jay

    I prefer “venerable.”

    Or “well pickled.”

    ;)

  126. 126.

    Jay

    January 24, 2022 at 2:43 am

    @NotMax:

    only on day’s off, when the good beer is available,

    low salt though and no dill.

    ( too many years of great salmon ruined by dill).

  127. 127.

    sab

    January 24, 2022 at 2:45 am

    @Jay:  Games? What are those.? I thought they were all on boards.

  128. 128.

    Jay

    January 24, 2022 at 2:47 am

    @sab:

    ?

  129. 129.

    sab

    January 24, 2022 at 2:51 am

    I thought my stepson was uneducable and otherwise an idiot. Then he went to welding and machinist school and found something so interesting and complicated that he could get into it and also learn a living

    ETA He was always good at math, but what use is that out of context.

  130. 130.

    Jay

    January 24, 2022 at 2:52 am

    Some of us are old enough, and condition situationed enough to have made the life long transition from valued employee to disposable worker.

    that’s a history we can pass on to the youths.

  131. 131.

    NotMax

    January 24, 2022 at 2:53 am

    @Jay

    Have a friend who likes to serve salmon baked with a coating of what is for all intents and purposes mayonnaise and dill. It probably has lemon juice and some other stuff in it too, but in insignificant amounts.

    Not inedible yet I cannot suppress an Involuntary shudder each time he serves it.

  132. 132.

    NotMax

    January 24, 2022 at 3:01 am

    @Jay

    Then there’s dill beer….

    ;)

  133. 133.

    Anyway

    January 24, 2022 at 3:01 am

     

    @Arclite:

    Ha! I liked Rodgers from his Jeopardy appearances and thought his guest hosting stint went off ok. Guess he began listening to Joe Rogan a little too much…

    Noticed that “Masks required” ( for everyone) signs are back up at some places. It’s been the wishy-washy “CDC recommends masks for unvaccinated” for many months now.

  134. 134.

    Anyway

    January 24, 2022 at 3:03 am

    @Jay:

    Youth is wasted on the young

  135. 135.

    Jay

    January 24, 2022 at 3:05 am

    @sab:

    welding, even just basic welding is a great skill set. The “weird stuff”, ( nuclear, ss pressure, steamset, etc) can be fascinating and rewarding, for the right mindset.

    great that he found his niche, and it came at the right time.

    Also that he got in the right place, at the right time, to get his certs.

    I am a “jack of all trades, Master of None”, because every time, ( other than SCM), economic collapse in that area, killed getting a 3 or 4th year, then a Red Seal.

    then, SWMBO got an amazing job, in a place where I could never get a job on my Certs, ( no industry), that job then got flushed because they brought in a Disruptor,

    then, 15 years of surviving, until we couldn’t any more,

    so, a move back to the Coast, where there are lot’s of grunt jobs, high cost of living, and I work retail.

    I am old.

  136. 136.

    Jay

    January 24, 2022 at 3:07 am

    @NotMax:

    creamed salmon anyone?

    place your orders now,……

     

     

     

    waiting,……

  137. 137.

    Fair Economist

    January 24, 2022 at 3:10 am

    @Jay: Apparently the freeze came very late to Ukraine this year and it wasn’t until January. And, yeah, now it’s just a few weeks until General Mud returns.

  138. 138.

    NotMax

    January 24, 2022 at 3:12 am

    @Jay

    Ask and you shall lreceive.

    Alternatively.

  139. 139.

    Jay

    January 24, 2022 at 3:18 am

    @NotMax:

    try a marinade of 2tbl Montreal Steak Spice, 1/4 cup soy, 1/4 cup demerra sugar, 1tbl liquid smoke.

    marinate it until it is 1/4” through the fillet side, 1/8th of an inch through the skin side.

    Cook it skin side down, until 1/2 way cooked through the flesh, ( solid, not translucent), then cover it with a lid until almost cooked through.

    Leave the skin in the pan while serving, both cats and dogs love it when cold and crispy.

    Soak the pan well, set the dishwasher on heavy,

    Or grill it on a bbq, and after serving, crank the heat to extreme to burn off the mess.

  140. 140.

    NotMax

    January 24, 2022 at 3:31 am

    @jay

    set the dishwasher on heavy

    Dishwasher? Dream on. My dishwasher has ten digits, and not of the electronic variety.

  141. 141.

    Jay

    January 24, 2022 at 3:35 am

    @Fair Economist:

    love how AGM can/is fu€king over Pootie Poots plans.

    hopefully, if Pootie Poot makes a move, IHROP loitering munitions and Backtayar drones makes life as miserable for the Russians, as it was for the Armenians.

  142. 142.

    Jay

    January 24, 2022 at 3:36 am

    @NotMax:

    crank it up to 11.

  143. 143.

    NotMax

    January 24, 2022 at 3:45 am

    @Jay

    Arthritis limits the cranking to 8, max. ;)

    Bought (on special) a large size purportedly non-stick pan last year. Have yet to use it but keep it on the stove top nonetheless simply because it is so attractive.

  144. 144.

    NotMax

    January 24, 2022 at 3:54 am

    @NotMax

    Bad linky. Fixy.

    Bought (on special) a large size purportedly non-stick pan last year. Have yet to use it but keep it on the stove top nonetheless simply because it is so attractive.

  145. 145.

    Jay

    January 24, 2022 at 3:56 am

    @NotMax:

    kitchen jewelry,

    that’s what SWHMO said about the mortar and pestle, until she used it.

  146. 146.

    NotMax

    January 24, 2022 at 4:05 am

    @Jay

    Oh, I fully intend to use it. Just haven’t had occasion to yet. Meanwhile sure is purty.

  147. 147.

    Jay

    January 24, 2022 at 4:05 am

    @NotMax:

    yeah, no. cast iron, grill if needed.

    we have no “non stick” in the house.

    if you need heat moderation, cast iron. If you need “non contaminate”, Saladmaster.

    Easy test, boiled cabbage, ( steamed ideally, nutrient wise)

    pick a pot, Saladmaster tastes like hot raw cabbage, everything else, well, that’s why kids hate cooked cabbage.

  148. 148.

    NotMax

    January 24, 2022 at 4:09 am

    @Jay

    Two words: Instant Pot. Ingredients for sweet ‘n’ sour cabbage soup already on next month’s wintertime grocery list.

    ;)

  149. 149.

    Jay

    January 24, 2022 at 4:16 am

    @NotMax:

    wok ish, take it out for a drive, probably, other than easy to clean, won’t beat an iron wok.

    see “new stuff” all the time, from construction to cooking.

    I like stuff that has a 20-50 record of provability.

    First house I bought, ( late 70’s) had grey PEX for the “new plumbing”, had to replace it all within a year as it leaked and burst. Copper replacement of course.

    Took 30 years of a proven track record for me to accept “new” PEX.

  150. 150.

    NotMax

    January 24, 2022 at 4:25 am

    @Jay

    Too many years to mention dealing with copper. Flux and antiflux,

    And IMHO modern formulated solder sucks big time.

  151. 151.

    Jay

    January 24, 2022 at 4:30 am

    @NotMax:

    got a Saladmaster pressure cooker, no Instapot or Crockpot,

    too many years, (20) of electricity being at a “premium”, ( living off wind, solar, wood fire, propane),

    sadly, these days, don’t cook much, I don’t eat much. Opening at  6am one day, closing the next day at 10:30pm, not to include 16 hour days because the shift is out with covid, or might be out with covid,

    Well,….. grilled cheese and tomato soup, or a tuna fish sandwich, (toasted buttered multigrain, coarse black pepper, mayo, line caught albacore),

    At work these days, I am lucky if I get lunch, let alone, coffee breaks.

  152. 152.

    Jay

    January 24, 2022 at 4:37 am

    @NotMax:

    I don’t mind the leadless, just gotta use MPS instead and have practice.

    hate the “Chinese”, (pejorative, low, zinc copper alloys) as they don’t last, but they are the standard these days.

  153. 153.

    lowtechcyclist

    January 24, 2022 at 5:38 am

    @dmsilev: ​
     

    Schadenfreude towards a different, though probably overlapping, set of idiots:

    Bitcoin drops to six-month low as investors dump speculative assets

    Digital tulips now cost roughly half as much as they did three months ago.

    Buy ’em now at bargain prices!

    Still time to get in on the rest of the crash!!

  154. 154.

    lowtechcyclist

    January 24, 2022 at 6:30 am

    @Chetan Murthy:

    I know Spawn the Elder is 18, but still, that’s child abuse. You did right by recommending he quit.

    Hell, it’s worker abuse.  It doesn’t matter if they’re 18 or 50, it’s totally unreasonable to expect some barely-above-min-wage worker to enforce mask rules against hostile assholes without backup close at hand.

    Quitting was the right thing to do, given that Spawn the Elder didn’t need that paycheck to survive.

  155. 155.

    prostratedragon

    January 24, 2022 at 6:31 am

    @NotMax:  And to think I just offloaded some dill havarti that an overzealous shopper picked out for me.  Dill beer would have been gone in about a tenth of the time.

  156. 156.

    evodevo

    January 24, 2022 at 8:17 am

    @NotMax:  Yeah…you put on a spot of spicy mustard and a sprinkling of dill and lemon, but mayonnaise is just disgusting lol

  157. 157.

    Another Scott

    January 24, 2022 at 11:50 am

    @Jay: Unfortunately, artillery doesn’t care too much about mud season.  If VVP wants to blow up the eastern third of Ukraine, the weather isn’t going to stop him.  :-(

    Agreed that war never goes as planned, and VVP is a fool if he thinks that everything will be over with in 6 weeks.  But even if he’s not a fool, it would likely to be better for everyone (at least in the short run) if he is convinced not to invade again.  In the long run, who knows – overreach is often the pathway to systemic change…

    My $0.02.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  158. 158.

    J R in WV

    January 24, 2022 at 6:03 pm

    @Kay:

    The “catastrophic moral crime” here is, of course, is the vast number of people refusing to be vaccinated or even wear a mask properly when out in public. Those people spreading mis-information are guilty of the moral crime, literally killing people with their lies.

    Why, yes, I am angry with them, and yes, I do hope that most of them wind up suffering with long covid at least, or winding up in a mass grave out on the edge of town somewhere.

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