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COVID-19 Coronavirus Updates: Friday / Saturday, Feb. 11-12

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Silver lining, for you bitterly disappointed parents: If it turns out that three doses provide better protection than two, you’ll have bypassed a lot of what-if afterthoughts…

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  1. 1.

    NeenerNeener

    Monroe County, NY:
    There were 174 new laboratory-confirmed cases of COVID-19 on 2/11.
    There were 116 positive home COVID tests reported on 2/11.

    Still no sign of test kits from the USPS.

  2. 2.

    Amir Khalid

    Malaysia’s Ministry of Health reports 22,802 new Covid-19 cases today in its media statement, for a cumulative reported total of 3,019,163 cases. It also reports 24 deaths as of midnight, for an adjusted cumulative total of 32,099 deaths – 1.06% of the cumulative reported total, 1.12% of resolved cases.

    Based on cases reported yesterday, Malaysia’s nationwide Rt is at 1.51.

    82 confirmed cases are in ICU, 40 of them on ventilators. Meanwhile, 5,442 more patients have recovered, for a cumulative total of 2,846,713 patients recovered – 94.3% of the cumulative reported total.

    11 new clusters were reported today, for a cumulative total of 6,586 clusters. 415 clusters are currently active; 6,171 clusters are now inactive.

    22,708 new cases today are local infections. 94 new cases today are imported.

    The National Covid-19 Immunisation Programme (PICK) administered 160,193 doses of vaccine on 11th February: 20,703 first doses, 1,578 second doses, and 137,912 booster doses. As of midnight, the cumulative total is 64,776,270 doses administered: 26,182,381 first doses, 25,730,652 second doses, and 1,068,547 booster doses. 80.2% of the population have received their first dose, 78.8% their second dose, and 40.0% their booster dose.

  3. 3.

    OzarkHillbilly

    Stepdaughter finally got her covid meds. The nebulizer has made a world of difference for her.

  5. 5.

    Matt McIrvin

    The antimaskers will argue that those kids only like masks because they were abused, just like antivaxxers called me a child abuser for mentioning that my daughter wanted to get vaccinated.

  6. 6.

    New Deal democrat

    Cases in the US are now down over 75%, but still a little above their Delta peak. Cases are down over 2/3’s in all four Census regions, and down 90% in the Northeast. The best State is MD, now down to a very good 16 cases per 100,000. Puerto Rico is close behind, down to 22. Both were down below 10 per 100,000 in summer 2020, and to 1 per 100,000 last June. No States show rises.

    Deaths are down below 2400 for the first time in over two weeks. It appears the US is coming down off peak. In every other country I have been tracking, deaths are down roughly 25% from peak, with the exception of South Africa, which is showing a surge that may be due to late reporting issues, and perhaps more concerningly Denmark, in which cases have also risen back to their peak (BA2 variant?).

    A lot of Canada-US truck traffic has diverted to the Niagara River bridges. RWers have openly said that they are going to try to shut down the most heavily used, the Peace Bridge, today. NYS police appear to be on high alert, but Fort Erie Ontario police (at least the spokesman) seem nonchalant.

  8. 8.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    In New Zealand, authorities turned on the sprinklers and Barry Manilow.

    Playing Manilow is barbaric, right out the KGB handbook. The KGB would torture dissidents by repeatedly playing “Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polka Dot Bikini” until they broke. (video) (not for the faint of heart)

  9. 9.

    NorthLeft12

    The last tweet from Cheryl Rofer is dead on. My experience with kids is that they understand the value and purpose of masks and have very little issue with wearing them. I have to remind my five year old grandson that he still has it on sometimes. Over half the school kids I see OUTSIDE are wearing masks.

    The concerns about their mental health are completely unfounded and is straightforward projection by adults who don’t want to wear masks.
    It is one thing to not personally wear a mask or get vaccinated, but to loudly advocate and prevent others from taking those precautions is sociopathic.

    First Trump, now COVID, have completely exposed some of our fellow citizens (I’m including Canada in this too) as menaces to democracy and our society.
    We have a long fight in front of us to ensure our countries are better places to live.

  10. 10.

    lowtechcyclist

    All this is simply because the Republicans want to make the pandemic worse so that they win the November elections and because a bunch of male pundits want to go to bars.

    I at least understand about the Republicans, that they’re evil people who are willing to engage in mass human sacrifice to win an election.

    But can’t the pundits already go to bars? Presumably as long as they’ve got a drink in their hand, nobody’s gonna tell them to mask up. I’m trying to figure out what aspect of ‘normal’ they want so badly that they can’t already have.

  14. 14.

    Another Scott

    Meanwhile, in Germany, …

    Telegram blocks over 60 channels in Germany — report:

    The messaging app Telegram blocked dozens of channels in Germany, including an account belonging to a prominent conspiracy theorist, the Süddeutsche Zeitung newspaper reported on Friday.

    The move comes amid increased pressure from the German government and authorities, who have expressed concern over groups using the app to spread disinformation about the coronavirus pandemic and organize protests that have turned violent.

    Things like that have to be part of the path forward. Companies have to prevent bad actors from hijacking their platforms to destroy society.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  15. 15.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Matt McIrvin: To the extent that they’re worth responding to at all, I’d tell them that it’s just like the GWOT: they can either be on the side of America, or you can side with the damned virus.  Those are their choices, and they’re traitors because they’re siding with the damned virus.

    And as far as I’m concerned, it’s a lot more true now than it was with the GWOT.

  23. 23.

    debbie

    @sab:

    Just saw this meme on FB: ” FUN FACT: Kids who read Maus don’t grow into adults who constantly compare minor inconveniences to the Holocaust.”

  24. 24.

    YY_Sima Qian

    On 2/11 China reported 40 new domestic confirmed (none previously asymptomatic) & 0 new domestic asymptomatic cases.

    Guangdong Province did not report any new domestic positive cases. As the province does not breakdown recoveries between domestic & imported cases, I cannot track the count of active cases in parts of the province.

    • At Zhuhai there currently are 16 active domestic confirmed cases (all presumed Omicron) in the city.
    • Shenzhen did not report any new domestic positive cases. 4 residential & 1 office buildings are currently at Medium Risk.
    • At Yunfu there currently are 7 active domestic confirmed & 1 active domestic asymptomatic cases in the city, all part of the Omicron transmission chain spreading from Shenzhen.
    • At Huizhou there currently are 6 active domestic confirmed cases in the city, part of the Omicron transmission chain spreading from Shenzhen.
    • In the rest of the province 1 domestic asymptomatic case was released from isolation. There currently are 2 active domestic confirmed (1 each at Heyuan & Meizhou) cases remaining.

    Guangxi “Autonomous” Region reported 30 new domestic confirmed cases. There currently are 250 active domestic confirmed & 2 active domestic asymptomatic cases in the province.

    • Baise reported 30 new domestic confirmed cases, most in the rural Debao County, all part of the same transmission chain. There currently are 249 active domestic confirmed cases (all presumed Omicron) in the city, most of whom are residents in the same village, all part of the transmission chain spreading from Shenzhen in Guangdong. 1 village at Debao County is currently at High Risk, & a hotel is currently at Medium Risk.
    • In the rest of the province there currently are 1 active domestic confirmed (at Chongzuo) & 2 active domestic asymptomatic (1 each at Nanning & Chongzuo) cases.

    At Shaoyang in Hunan Province there currently is 1 active domestic confirmed case in the city, part of the transmission chain spreading from Shenzhen in Guangdong.

    At Tianjin Municipality 1 domestic confirmed case recovered. There currently are 31 active domestic confirmed cases (all presumed Omicron). 1 High Risk residential building has been re-designated to Low Risk. 1 residential building remains at High Risk. 5 residential buildings remain at Medium Risk.

    Beijing Municipality did not report any new domestic positive cases. As Beijing does not separate recoveries between imported & domestic cases, I cannot track the number of active cases on the city. The High Risk community has been re-designated to Low Risk. 1 community, 1 village & 1 residential building remain at Medium Risk.

    Liaoning Province reported 10 new domestic confirmed cases. 1 domestic asymptomatic case was released from isolation. There currently are 34 active domestic confirmed & 4 active domestic asymptomatic cases in the province.

    • Huludao reported 10 new domestic confirmed cases, all at Suizhong County, all traced close contacts already under centralized quarantine since 2/9 or 2/10. There currently are 32 active domestic confirmed cases in the city. 1 village at Suizhong County is currently at High Risk, & a residential compound there is currently at Medium Risk.
    • Shenyang did not report any new domestic positive cases.. There currently are 2 active domestic confirmed & 4 active domestic asymptomatic cases in the city.
    • At Dalian the domestic asymptomatic case was released from isolation.

    At Shandong Province there currently at 2 active domestic confirmed (at Jinan) & 1 active domestic asymptomatic (at Liaocheng) cases in the province, all part of the transmission chain from the cold storage warehouses outbreak at Fengtai District in Beijing.

    At Datong in Shanxi Province there currently are 2 active domestic confirmed cases in the city.

    At Hebei Province 1 domestic confirmed case recovered. There currently are 17 active domestic confirmed cases (5 at Xiong’an, 5 at Hengshui, 6 at Langfang & 1 at Baoding) in the province, all part of the transmission chain from the cold storage warehouses outbreak in Fengtai District in Beijing. 1 village at Hengshui remains at Medium Risk.

    At Yili Prefecture in Xinjiang “Autonomous” Region there currently are 4 active domestic confirmed (3 at 4th Div. of XPCC & 1 at Horgos) & 5 active domestic asymptomatic (3 at 4th Div. of XPCC & 2 at Horgos) cases at the border crossing. 2 residential compounds & 1 residential building were re-designated to Low Risk. 2 residential compounds remain at Medium Risk.

    Heilongjiang Province did not report any new domestic positive cases. There currently are 25 active domestic confirmed (all at Mudanjiang) & 49 active domestic asymptomatic (10 at Heihe, 34 at Mudanjiang, 4 at Qiqihar & 1 at Suihua) cases in the province. 5 residential buildings at Heihe are currently at Medium Risk. 3 residential compounds, 8 residential buildings, 3 residential building units, 4 office buildings & a produce market at Mudanjiang remain at Medium Risk.

    At Shanghai Municipality 1 domestic asymptomatic case was released from isolation. There currently are 2 active domestic confirmed & 2 active domestic asymptomatic cases in the city.

    Zhejiang Province did not report any new domestic positive cases. As the province does not regularly publish recoveries, I can no longer trace the count of active cases on there. 2 businesses, 1 residential compound & a shop have been re-designated to Low Risk. 7 residential compounds & 2 businesses at Hangzhou remain at Medium Risk.

    At Huanggang in Hubei Province there currently is 1 active domestic asymptomatic case in the city, part of the transmission chain from Hangzhou in Zhejiang.

    At Shangrao in Jiangxi Province there currently is 1 active domestic asymptomatic case, part of the transmission chain from the factory outbreak at Hangzhou in Zhejiang.

    Suzhou in Jiangsu Province did not report any new domestic positive cases. There currently is 1 active domestic asymptomatic case in the city, an import logistics worker, found via bi-daily regular screening.

    Tongren in Guizhou Province did not report any new domestic positive cases. There currently is 1 active domestic confirmed case in the city, part of the transmission chain spreading from Huludao in Liaoning.

    At Henan Province 43 domestic confirmed case recovered. There currently are 179 active domestic confirmed cases in the province. 

    At Yunnan Province there currently are 8 active domestic confirmed (3 at Kunming & 5 at Sipsongpanna Prefecture) & 6 active domestic asymptomatic (all at Sipsongpanna Prefecture) cases remaining. 1 zone at Mengla County in Sipsongpanna Prefecture remains at Medium Risk.

    Imported Cases

    On 2/11, China reported 59 new imported confirmed cases (10 previously asymptomatic), 61 imported asymptomatic cases, 1 imported suspect case:

    • Shenzhen in Guangdong Province – 13 confirmed cases, 10 Mainland Chinese residents returning from Hong Kong & 1 Chinese national each from Indonesia & Thailand, & a South Korean national coming from South Korea; 2 asymptomatic cases, a Mainland Chinese resident returning from Hong Kong & a Chinese national from Indonesia
    • Guangzhou in Guangdong Province – 6 confirmed cases (1 previously asymptomatic), 3 Chinese nationals returning from Russia & 1 each from Mongolia (via Tehran), Turkey (via Tehran) & Venezuela (via Istanbul); 3 asymptomatic cases, 1 Chinese national each returning from Malaysia& Russia, & a foreign national coming from Turkey (via Tehran)
    • Foshan in Guangdong Province – 2 confirmed cases (1 previously asymptomatic), coming from the UAE; 2 asymptomatic cases, a Mainland Chinese resident returning from Hong Kong & a Chinese national from the UAE
    • Dongguan in Guangdong Province – 2 confirmed & 3 asymptomatic cases, all coming from Hong Kong
    • Yangjiang Port in Guangdong Procaine – 1 confirmed case (previously asymptomatic), a Chinese crew member off a cargo ship w/ last port of call in the Philippines
    • Shanghai Municipality – 7 confirmed cases, 3 Chinese nationals returning from the UAE & 1 each from Singapore & the UK (via Helsinki), a Japan national coming from Japan & a Taiwanese resident coming from Taiwan; 1 suspect case, no information released
    • Quanzhou in Fujian Province – 12 confirmed & 4 asymptomatic cases, no information released
    • Xiamen in Fujian Province – 2 confirmed cases, a Hong Kong resident coming from Hong Kong & an Indian crew members off a cargo ship
    • Fuzhou in Fujian Province – 3 asymptomatic cases, 2 coming from Australia & 1 from Japan
    • Chengdu in Sichuan Province – 5 confirmed cases (4 previously asymptomatic), 1 Chinese national each returning from Cambodia & Singapore, & 3 Russian nationals coming from Russia; 2 asymptomatic cases, both Chinese nationals returning from Singapore
    • Qingdao in Shandong Province – 3 confirmed cases, 2 German nationals coming from Germany & a Burmese crew member off a cargo ship w/ last port of call in South Korea
    • Shenyang in Liaoning Province – 1 confirmed case, no information released 
    • Dalian in Liaoning Province – 1 confirmed case, no information released 
    • Chongzuo in Guangxi “Autonomous” Region  – 1 confirmed & 5 asymptomatic cases, no information released
    • Qinzhou in Guangxi “Autonomous” Region  – 1 confirmed case, no information released
    • Tianjin Municipality – 1 confirmed case, a Chinese national returning from Japan
    • Harbin in Heilongjiang Province – 1 confirmed & 1 asymptomatic cases, both coming from South Korea 
    • Yunnan Province (location not specified) – 5 asymptomatic cases, 3 Chinese nationals returning from Myanmar & 2 from Laos, via land border crossings
    • Beijing Municipality – 4 asymptomatic cases, no information released
    • Chongqing Municipality – 1 asymptomatic case, coming from Singapore

    Overall in China, 87 confirmed cases recovered (22 imported), 40 asymptomatic cases were released from isolation (36 imported) & 10 were reclassified as confirmed cases (all imported), & 3,623 individuals were released from quarantine. Currently, there are 1,436 active confirmed cases in the country (637 imported), 6 in serious condition (1 imported), 823 active asymptomatic cases (741 imported), 1 suspect case (imported). 37,471 traced contacts are currently under centralized quarantine.

    As of 2/11, 3,036.707M vaccine doses have been injected in Mainland China, an increase of 7.119M doses in the past 24 hrs.

    On 2/12, Hong Kong reported 1,514 new positive cases, 5 imported & 1,509 domestic. There are another ~ 1,500 cases who are preliminarily positive, awaiting confirmation.

    On 2/12, Taiwan reported 60 new positive cases, 49 imported & 11 domestic.

  26. 26.

    Ohio Mom

    @sab: I am rusty on these things and perhaps Granddaughter’s school is already doing these things — at a minimum, they can give her advance notice (This morning we will have a drill during reading time), and an illustrated social story (https://www.google.com/search?q=social+story+for+active+shooter+drill&client=safari&hl=en-us&ei=27cHYpjzNo6sqtsP_qS_sAg&oq=social+story+gor+sctivd+shooter+drill&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAEYADIECB4QCkoECEEYAVAAWABgrA1oAHAAeACAAUKIAUKSAQExmAEAwAEB&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp#sbfbu=1&pi=social%20story%20for%20active%20shooter%20drill)

    Sorry I don’t know how to embed links. I used to know but I forgot.

    You can always insist these sorts of things are included in the IEP (Granddaughter will demonstrate improved self-regulation skills during 2 out of 4 safety drills, provided the following supports…).

    The IEP is a legal contract (even if it is largely unenforceable). Do you or another ally accompany your stepdaughter to the IEP meetings? She is entitled to bring someone.

    Finally, were you able to find the information you wanted about Ohio’s ABLE program — in our state, it is called a STABLE account. I don’t dare try to include another link.

  27. 27.

    Wag

    @Geo Wilcox:   Tetanus shots are a carrier for vaccines against diphtheria and whooping cough.

    We should be very concerned if the antivax idiots succeed in ending trad vax mandates.

  28. 28.

    Kalakal

    The thought of anti-vaxxers getting what they wish for makes me very relieved that smallpox is extinct ( in the wild ). All we need now is an outbreak of the Black Death

  30. 30.

    UncleEbeneezer

    @sab: In two years almost none of my students (age 6-15, predominantly Asian-American) have complained about wearing masks.

  31. 31.

    Robert Sneddon

    Scotland — 5,601 new cases of COVID-19 and 16 new reported deaths of people who have tested positive. C’est le weekend, au naturel so info from various sources may be delayed. Still no precipitous fall in these numbers. The death rate from COVID-19 in Scotland per capita is about half that of the current US rate.

    888 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 with 22 people in intensive care. Hospitalisations continue to decline in number, the ICU numbers are staying around the same. The downside is that any reduction of numbers in ICU beds is usually reflected in the total of deaths reported that day.

  33. 33.

    grandmaBear

    @NeenerNeener: got my test kits yesterday in south central Ohio. I ordered them as soon as they were mentioned here. I think the bad weather may have delayed the delivery.

    I’m trying to be positive- I slipped on some mud/snow on the 1st and broke my leg. I was supposed to start a trip to Italy on the 28th, but have had to cancel. I’ve scheduled another trip for next October and should get some relief from travel insurance, but was so looking forward to traveling again. Oh well, I will be much further along in my Italian lessons by Fall.

  36. 36.

    Tenar Arha

    @grandmaBear: Hope you’re healing up okay. Sorry to hear re your vacation cancellation. October in Italy is a good time, bc fewer tourists blocking the art  in museums ;)

  38. 38.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @Kalakal: All we need now is an outbreak of the Black Death

    If you want to scare yourself silly read up on it. It’s real curiosity why we aren’t still having Black Death pandemics.

  39. 39.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @Kalakal: All we need now is an ioutbreak of the Black Death

    Presuming it’s the wild version of bubonic plague – i.e., not engineered for antibiotic resistance – that wouldn’t be much of a problem. Yersinia pestis** is exquisitely sensitive to antibiotics that most germs have long since become resistant to, e.g., streptomycin.

    ** Which FTR is found amongst rodents in the US Southwest, so don’t get bit by a prairie dog’s fleas!

  40. 40.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @lowtechcyclist: But can’t the pundits already go to bars? Presumably as long as they’ve got a drink in their hand, nobody’s gonna tell them to mask up. I’m trying to figure out what aspect of ‘normal’ they want so badly that they can’t already have.

    Because they would be by themselves. 80% of the population isn’t stupid.

    The next few months are going to be hilarious as the MSM go nuts because they declared the pandemic over and the major refuses to go along, until it’s really over.

  41. 41.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: If you want to scare yourself silly read up on it. It’s real curiosity why we aren’t still having Black Death pandemics.

    BULLSHIT. Not a curiosity at all. See my post (ETA: #39) above.

    (NB I coauthored a report to the US Army on Yersinia pestis as a biological warfare threat. I kindasorta know what I’m talking about here.)​

  42. 42.

    grandmaBear

    @Tenar Arha:

    @WaterGirl: thanks. As I say, trying to look on the bright side – October is actually a better time than March usually, my Italian will be better, and I got into a better tour for me for the second half than the original plan. And maybe, things will be a little more stable vis a vis the pandemic. Of course that’s what I thought last summer when I made the reservation too. Life is short, I want to get in some travel while I can.

  43. 43.

    Kalakal

    @Uncle Cosmo: As long as people are willing to take the antibiotics. I know bubonic plague is easy to control, I was thinking more of psychological effect. It has (understandbly) the most terrifying reputation of any disease in history. Even the most hard core anti vax/anti science/ horse paste eater is going to have a hard time convincing others that the Black Death is ‘just the ‘flu’. I suppose the modern equivalent in terms of scariness in popular opinion is Ebola.

  44. 44.

    NorthLeft12

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: There are a great number of people that are going to hold off going to bars, restaurants, and entertainment events because they will judge that it is not safe. Just like at the start of the pandemic before indoor dining was restricted.

    I am not going to say that these venues will be empty, but until case rates drop significantly, a minority of people will not go inside without mask or vaccination mandates.

    I am expecting governments, businesses, and media to begin shaming those who still wear masks and refuse to frequent indoor events.

  45. 45.

    Ruckus

    @lowtechcyclist:

    They want control.

    They don’t want you to be able to be better than them.

    They don’t want you to be able to say no.

    They want to hear “Yes sir!”, not fuck off, or you have to do whatever.

    This is not new, it is not an unknown, this is conservatives thinking that their world view is better because they are in control. This is anti democracy, that society is better when everyone does what they want, in the manner they want it done. It is about control, not about being correct, because that is what they want, to control, to be in charge, not to let everyone else make decisions or follow science. They think this is their right, to be in charge, to set the limits. It doesn’t matter realistic, scientific, medicine, they do not want democracy. They want/wanted shit for brains, in spite of his concepts of ignorance, because they want control, to be in charge, to justify their existence. And they will be controlled in ignorant ways to justify their style of control, which is not about democracy but authoritarianism. Control over woman’s bodies, control over children, control. It doesn’t have to make sense, in fact it rarely does, like in almost never. But it is humanity in all it’s failings and has been for centuries. They want stupidity to be in charge.

  46. 46.

    Brachiator

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    Coming late to the threads and this is one I always check out. I guess Feb 15 will be Pandemic is Over Day. Some people really think that they can defeat this thing just because they are tired of it.

    NB I coauthored a report to the US Army on Yersinia pestis as a biological warfare threat. I kindasorta know what I’m talking about here.

    I am always knocked out by the background and expertise of various jackals. Very cool. Big respect to you.

  48. 48.

    Kalakal

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    I coauthored a report to the US Army on Yersinia pestis as a biological warfare threat. I kindasorta know what I’m talking about here.

    That is very impressive.

    I kindasorta know what I’m talking about here.

    Indeed you do

  49. 49.

    Bill Arnold

    @Matt McIrvin:

    The antimaskers will argue that those kids only like masks because they were abused, just like antivaxxers called me a child abuser for mentioning that my daughter wanted to get vaccinated.

    The antimaskers, like the antivaxxers, are stochastic mass murderers, with various motives, some purely selfish, and some more in-group-selfish including hoped-for GOP political gain versus Democrats.
    And they are also advocating for increased long-term and possibly life-long disease (including COVID-19-caused disabilities) in some of the people that they do not murder.
    They have less than zero ethical standing; they are actively, willfully evil. Most of them are also gullible and ignorant. Any concerns of theirs about ethical/moral issues are absolutely irrelevant.

  50. 50.

    Brachiator

    @NorthLeft12:

    There are a great number of people that are going to hold off going to bars, restaurants, and entertainment events because they will judge that it is not safe. Just like at the start of the pandemic before indoor dining was restricted.

    It will be interesting to see how this develops.

    I suspect that quite a few people who want to follow safe practice will go to venues, not wear masks, etc., to accommodate friends and family. They will just throw in the towel.

    I am expecting governments, businesses, and media to begin shaming those who still wear masks and refuse to frequent indoor events.

    Sadly, yeah. I agree. But I think media will be the last to change their message.

  51. 51.

    Another Scott

    @Ohio Mom: There’s some discussion of how to embed tweets (without images, etc.) in this thread.  chris’s comment seems to be the clearest.

    Briefly: Click on the proper spot in the Tweet to see the menu to “Embed Tweet”. Click the button (varies by platform) to copy the Code to your clipboard. Return here, **make sure you’re in the Text tab in the comment box**, Paste, and then continue with your comment.

    Hope this helps.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  53. 53.

    Chacal Charles Calthrop

    @Kalakal: I agree. I’m always really impressed with the knowledge & specialized expertise of the jackals.

    of course, all these morning Covid posts are a perfect example. I always read these posts & the responses (not at 6 or 7 am though, that’s for sure) & every time I talk to anyone I know about Covid I find I invariably know more about the pandemic than the person I’m talking to. And that’s entirely due to this blog.

    And while I’m at it, a special  thanks to New Deal Democrat for info about how all the states are doing relative to each other.

  55. 55.

    Another Scott

    Caveat: I’m not an MD.

    I was curious about the Ricks tweet and clicked over to the Nature Medicine article.

    Ricks’ tweet says:

    Heart-disease risk soars after Covid — even with a mild case. Massive study shows a long-term, substantial rise in risk of cardiovascular disease, including heart attack and stroke, after a SARSCoV2 infection

    Be careful about the use of “long term” – they study was for patients over a year. (Of course, that’s all the data they have right now.)

    From the data, there’s no doubt that some cardiac risks increase after COVID infection. But “heart attack and stroke” are way down on the list (Stroke/TIA, and Cardiac Arrest in Figure 2). Afib and Heart Failure are the biggies.

    Yet another example that one cannot trust Twitter summaries. And yet another example of how people with big followings should spend more time getting their tweets right and less time on trying to be first or somehow more “engaging”.

    My $0.02, FWIW.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  57. 57.

    Dopey-o

    @Bill Arnold: The antimaskers, like the antivaxxers, are stochastic mass murderers, with various motives, some purely selfish, and some more in-group-selfish including hoped-for GOP political gain versus Democrats.

    Don’t blame Adam Silverman, but I came away from one of his posts with the distinct impression that we are seeing the early stages of a low-grade civil conflict. Weaponized Covid.

    Just as Trump and Kushner thought Covid would decimate cities (*cough* black people / LGBT, etc), anti-vaxxers / anti-maskers know the harm they are doing. And embrace it, because they want a white Christianist fascist future.

  58. 58.

    J R in WV

    See, in my ignorance, heart attack and heart failure are this || close together. Closer, really…

    Wife is home now.

    And something appears to be wrong down at the water well. No water pressure, anyhow. Could be the relay that turns on the 220 Volt supply to the submerged pump, or it could be the pump itself down in the well. Hope that isn’t it, much harder to repair.

    Neighbors who share the well with us are on it, she’s actually a licensed electrician… We’re all pretty handy out here in the country, have to be in order to keep civilization running!

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