From the NYT, least surprising breaking news ever:
WASHINGTON — The National Archives confirmed on Friday that it had found classified information among documents that President Donald J. Trump had taken with him to his home in Florida from the White House and that it had consulted with the Justice Department about the matter.
I’ll assume there will be no negative consequences for Trump so I can be pleasantly surprised if there are and avoid being disappointed if there aren’t.
Also this afternoon, a sentence in the case of the cop who killed a young black man as he tried to flee a traffic stop in Minnesota, after the cop mistakenly fired her gun instead of a taser:
(CNN) Kim Potter, the former Minnesota police officer who mistakenly drew a gun instead of a Taser and fatally shot Daunte Wright during a traffic stop, was sentenced on Friday to two years in prison.
The judge said Potter will actually do just 16 months — the rest of the sentence can be served on supervised release, barring any disciplinary problems. The fine was only $1K.
The judge’s demeanor during the sentencing pissed a lot of people off, and I can understand why. She sounded like a member of the defense team in the clip I saw.
Back over to the NYT — Ottawa cops are clearing out the trucks:
Twenty-two days after a trucker convoy rumbled into the nation’s capital to protest pandemic restrictions, hundreds of police in downtown Ottawa moved in to arrest protesters Friday morning, hoping to end weeks of gridlock that have roiled the city, infuriated local residents and shaken the country.
After a night of unusually heavy snowfall, during which police made several arrests, rows of police officers in fluorescent jackets were seen steadily edging toward protesters on Parliament Hill, backed by at least two armored vehicles, and tactical officers armed with rifles and wearing helmets…
Several heavy tow trucks whose license plates had been removed and company names covered with Ottawa police stickers were beginning to tow protesters’ trucks away.
Here’s my favorite commentary on the so-called trucker protests:
me when reading anything about the trucker convoys pic.twitter.com/disHv8zkmA
— Rose Judson (@rosejudson) February 17, 2022
I had no idea there was an asteroid hymn! Brilliant!
And finally, because there may be Monty Python fans here who don’t follow me on Twitter:
Stuffie looks like the Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog! pic.twitter.com/NWZ6PNzPhT
— Betty Cracker ? (@bettycrackerfl) February 17, 2022
The photo was not staged or ‘shopped in any manner — it’s just an amazing coincidental reenactment.
@germy: Great point from the second tweeter. I started reading The New Yorker interview with Baquet and quit in disgust fairly quickly. The title is: “Dean Baquet Never Wanted to Be an Editor.” We’d all be better off if he got his wish.
That rabbit’s DYNAMITE
Any editor who says “I could care less” should be relieved of his duties.
Major Major Major Major
Glad to hear they’re finally clearing Redneck CHAZ out of Ottawa.
Mike in NC
Was expecting FOX News to dispatch a crack strike force led by Tucker “Trucker” Carlson to report on the dire situation in
@germy: Here’s the first question in The New Yorker interview:
Good God, there’s a tough one! When the interviewer finally got around to addressing the Clinton 2016 campaign coverage, it was in an apologetic tone with no follow-up to the self-exculpatory argle-bargle that followed.
I used to sing bass in the Methodist church choir- I heartily endorse the Asteroid Hymn, and if I was still a member of that choir, would lobby mightily for its inclusion. I think it would go well for Easter service…
About the “unusual” amount of snowfall in Ottawa per the NYT, uhhh, it’s winter. I lived near Ottawa for ten years and we always got a shitload of snow THAT DOES NOT MELT UNTIL APRIL!
Now thirty cm is a lot at one time, I’ll concede that, but the removal of the pro COVID occupiers is proceeding steadily…..despite the horrible conditions.
I just finished digging out of the same storm that hit here yesterday.
I bailed after just a few paragraphs.
Buh bye, fuckos!
@germy: Agree, that was one of the things that peeps in the US used to say that got me frothing at the mouth. I would say through gritted teeth “do you even understand what the hell you just said? You just said the opposite of what you thought you were saying!” Harumph!
That’s a lot of debt.
Playing Send Us Thine Asteroid, O Lord is a great reason to tune up my guitar.
@Kay: now that’s some awesomesauce cancel culture!!
@Kay: Comes out to nearly $26K per person. Lots of people will be happy about this.
Coincidentally, I don’t have any regrets about calling the NYT garbage.
I’m surprised Stuffie hasn’t been unstuffed.
16,000 people will be happy. Everyone else will ignore it.
The end of a very ugly odd: Pat King, white supremacist and supporter of the Ottawa occupation, has been arrested.
It’s been going on for a while:
The disability number is interesting. I didn’t know they were doing that.
@Kay: They’re cancelling a lot of debt like this, but because it’s not debt accumulated by people who went to Ivy League colleges he doesn’t get much credit for it on Twitter. This helps people who really need it – those who were misled by for-profit colleges and probably never even got a degree.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Major Major Major Major:
The imagery of rugged individualists with sad expressions being dragged off to jail is both a soothing balm and an aphrodisiac that comforts me after the events of 1/6/2021. As I told friends:
”The Ottawa cops may be learning that it is really a lot of fun to kick the shit out of some whiny-assed RWNJs for a change.”
The public service loan forgiveness people really celebrate it. You see them on Twitter and Facebook. But you’re right- 99.9 % won’t even know it happened.
@Baud: I see your definition of “lots” starts at 16,001 or greater. Noted.
Taking classified documents (obviously, some are Top Secret) is a major offense – if this isn’t prosecuted then no crime can be. This does not require proof of intent – since removal is the crime. Possession of said documents is also a crime. He is a private citizen and can’t, after the fact declassifry the material and as someone posted, there had to be a record of it being de-classified before removal.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
They’ve been supposed to do that all along.
Well, I don’t really think that’s fair. There’s a lot between “Ivy League” and Corinthian College. For profits are terrible but they’re a small slice. The basis for the forgiveness is they defrauded students. They’re in their own category.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Another Scott: it was even more basic than that; Hillary was investigated numerous times over the years and no wrong doing was found yet the NYT brushed off all the allegations against Trump in 2016 that turned to be true. Rape might be difficult to prove, but Trump being so incompetent he went bankrupt 11 times was a matter of public record. Basket Case, Baquet, or whatever the hell his name is really is useless.
@Kay: Is the government contemplating action against the for-profits? No doubt some are already defunct.
Ben Cisco, MSCIS Padawan
@mrmoshpotato: TIL this is actually a thing.
You can really learn ANYTHING here.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
I am a bit saddened that there weren’t more clubs used.
Would appreciate seeing three or four of them get beaten like a baby harp seal.
I think it’s good because if you can clear out the for profit debt and the public service debt and the disability debt you get a much clearer picture of the rest of it. It becomes a more manageable problem with solutions that wouldn’t and shouldn’t apply to these categories anyway.
@mrmoshpotato: Depends what state they’re all in.
@Kay: Current COVID-based student loan deferral ends on May 1. I guess that’s when the rubber will hit the road on this issue.
@Ben Cisco, MSCIS Padawan: Thanks, but I need to rock. ?
The FTC Takes New Aim At Deceptive For-Profit Colleges (forbes.com)
Oh, God that’s been going on forever. Obama started in 2008. If you follow the link in my comment you can see the process for each school laid out. It’s a lawsuit (by students, by a state AG, by the federal government) followed by a finding they defrauded, followed by inclusion in the group of debtors who get the forgiveness. They just added one in Minnesota.
@Baud: Excellent. Not wholly dissimilar from the Trump U case, though of course as always run-of-the-mill fraudsters appear to be paragons of virtue compared to the pig.
Pulling up Baud’s comment about restauranteurs joining the class action suit against the whiny ass titty baby “convoy.”
@Kay: Good. I haven’t had a dog in that hunt so I wasn’t up on the details. Working to get back from wrongdoers the money forgiven on the loans is something good faith opponents of the program would want to see (if in fact good faith GOPers actually existed).
I’m not sure that’s correct.
18 U.S. Code § 1924 – Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu)
I looked at the question because I thought maybe they asked “should school boards be able to be ban books?” (bad question) which of course people would object to but it’s a better question than that- they asked from school curriculums and they gave a real life example and it’s still 71 opposed.
There may be hope for us yet! :)
Well, the NYT did do that deep dive into Trump’s taxes. But timing is everything, and there’s no comparison between that article’s publication date, long after Trump became president, and the constant harping on Clinton’s emails just before Election Day.
Im so old I still remember Whitewater on the front page, again and again.
@Baud: I’m pretty sure they can show that (intent as described in the statute).
The for profits really took off during the recession because people couldn’t find jobs and a lot of what people “know” about college is due to them having parents who went to college so the “first generation” students were vulnerable and ripe for the picking. It just broke my heart because they’re everything we’re supposed to value- earnest, trying to better themselves, aspiring.
Biden’s 4 PM ET update on Ukraine – YouTube link. Hasn’t started yet.
I’m having a grumper of a day, but it’s been nice to see those morons in Ottawa get arrested. They’re in a world of shit now, a real world of shit.
One wonders how many state secrets Trump and his sprogs were going to sell to hostile nations.
@Kay: We’ve all seen the ads for the “universities” at issue. They played on the characteristics mentioned in your post and did so using pretty much the same words.
@Baud: As I understand it, items found at Mar-a-Lago were marked as classified. Or are you saying the possible defense is that Trump didn’t know what was in the boxes?
Yeah, that’s one possible defense. We don’t have any details, much less any hint about what prosecutors can prove.
@Soprano2: Yep. If I were running the show, I’d only relieve debt from public institutions and people with disabilities from privates. And if I felt compelled to relieve debt from for-profits, it would come with instructions that the for-profit be shut down.
The privates can use their endowments to relive the debt of their alums, and I’d make that publicly clear.
I was like a salesman for the local community college – “nursing? They have that! Not a rip off! Right down the road!” :)
But you don’t know what you don’t know.
Community College nursing programs are a huge bargain…
And the reason why they have wait lists up to 2 years.
@Old School: The law is trying to walk a fine line. It’d designed to punish the people who remove the material, not the journalists who might receive and report on it (unless the journalist was a participant in the removal). Basically, once the government loses possession of the material, there’s generally no harm attached to it.
Seems to me that Trump needs to be held accountable for this. Even if he didn’t pack the boxes, the person who did pack the boxes worked for him at the time with the intent that it be in his possession.
Among the other disappointments related to BBB is that Manchin nixed free community college early on. I think that would have been pretty popular (and probably helped a lot of people in WV).
Via Steve Benen, I see that the National Archivist released a letter today answering some questions about the 15 boxes of presidential records.
@Kay: I’m mostly talking about the Twitter “warriors” who talk about how Biden won’t forgive $50,000 worth of student loan debt for everyone. I was being a little too snarky, I guess. It’s kind of a sore spot with me, because I don’t think people should take on debt they have no intention of repaying. I think there need to be reforms to the student loan program – they should be dischargeable in bankruptcy after a certain amount of years, for example – but just waving a magic wand and letting most people completely off the hook for debt they said they were going to repay doesn’t sit well with me.
@Baud: Manchin opposes anything where he can’t get a cut of the action.
@Kay: I think what they’re doing is great. I think it helps the people who most need it – the ones who were defrauded by those terrible for-profit colleges, for example.
Read more about it on page A29 of the NYT.
No harm attached to what? What does that “it” represent?
What an embarrassment.
James E Powell
No doubt, Former FBI Director Comey will have a tirade or two about this. Right? Right?
@mrmoshpotato: That struck me too.
Something classified doesn’t suddenly become declassified because it’s published in FTFNYT. (Recall that one of the things HRC had to finesse when she was SOS was something that was published that hadn’t been declassified that her staff knew she was going to be asked about. Thus the screaming about classified information in her e-mails.)
Biden’s speaking now.
@Baud: April will be a big month for the student debt relief debate. Some people plan a “Day of Action” to highlight the issue on April 3. There should be some more thorough analysis of who owes how much by then, and legislative proposals as well.
I will be interested to see good polling on the issue. There are interests of justice and equity here, and some cut both ways. But it’s also a political question that excites strong feelings, and I want to know how debt relief would help Democrats, and how it would hurt them.
Well, the degree I wound up with was from Close-Cover-Before-Striking University, but I wasn’t defrauded (it was both cheap and accredited), so I’m glad to see people who got snookered get something back.
Handy hymn! And easy, familiar tune.
I will be shocked if all student loan debt get cancelled. So what will be interesting to me will be (1) whether anything gets done and (2) if so, will the action be received positively or negatively by advocates and borrowers.
I like bankruptcy too for a lot of reasons-they’re an expert debt court that already exists and they run really well. But I also like it because the idea behind bankruptcy in the US is you don’t want to scare people into not trying anything. You want them to take some risk. It’s a nice thing about the US right? How you don’t have to do what your father did. I wouldn’t like a program that said “you must check what is the most useable degree, dollar for dollar, and get that one or you’re carrying that debt forever”.
So they can try. And if they fail they get dinged a little in the bankruptcy but not too much and they get a fresh start so they can try something else.
There’s a lot of ways to look at it. You could make the first undergrad year free! That’s a 25% reduction right there. That way if they’re not cut out for it they move on to the next thing.
“As of this moment, we believe he has made the decision to invade.”
@Kay: No actually it isn’t. That’s about 1.5 years of loans at a large state college. It really adds up when you have 50,000 enrollment. These flyby night schools are usually much smaller, but there are too many of them. Also DeVos was sitting on years of applications that should have been processed and approved. So there should be quite a backlog getting cleared.
James E Powell
Neither Baquet nor anyone else at the FTFNYT believes their coverage and hysteria about Hillary emails was an error or wrong in any way. They are happy, ecstatically happy, that their 20+ year smear campaign kept That Woman! out of the White House.
@Baud: I’ve decided that Manchin is a spineless, vain, stupid, small, dick of a man who will leave behind nothing- no legacy of good; no real friends, no statues… just a rusty Maserati and a defunct houseboat. I hope he departs the world soon
Cute hymn. Someone should try doing something with “The Church’s One Salvation”, whose verse meter tends to yield amusing results with nearly any English prose, especially of a semi-formal or bureaucratic variety.
@Baud: I’d say also just freezing /refinancing the debt at prime plus one would be a huge win. -a lot of students are paying north of 8 percent interest
@Ksmiami: Dem Senate candidates should run on the slogan of Cancel Manchin.
@James E Powell:
He’s already pardoned Trump for all crimes. Still running his mouth after all that damage.
I always think about this with regular-people criminals. At sentencing : “Judge, I just want us to heal and focus on what matters going forward”. That people say this with a straight face about celebrity criminals! Amazing.
@Mike in NC: They couldn’t find enough crack.
@germy: Can’t find it at the moment, but years ago when online news sites were on the rise, Baquet’s publisher was similarly insouciant about the future of the NYT. He expressly said he didn’t care if the paper could survive. So Baquet is giving us the don’t give a fuck attitude of the top.
That’s kind of interesting. There are a lot of options.
@Soprano2: One modest proposal introduced by Representative Conor Lamb (PA) would create a one-time $10,000 education credit that could be applied by anyone to retire debt or pay for education. It certainly does not go as far as some people want, but it may not be a bad starting point. I think Eric Swallwell has introduced legislation as well but I I haven’t checked into it. The problem is getting legislation through this Congress, which is why the proponents of blanket debt cancellation are so insistent that this can be done by executive action.
Thanks. I knew about DeVos. She got a really tough California judge who was just not fooling around with her bullshit when 160k students sued her. It was a JOY to watch someone powerful (judge) hold someone else powerful (billionaire) accountable. That’s the thing about it. I think the public would love that if we did more of it and it would “restore trust” more than any number of speeches about restoring trust. Just do it. The “trust” will come as a result of the actions.
@Ksmiami: An interest rate reduction like you speak of would certainly help debtors, and could possibly be done through executive action.
@Geminid: it just makes sense all around- I think
@Baud: good idea! I’m game…
It really is expensive, even at public schools. I got sticker shock between paying for one undergrad and then 15 years later paying for another. It had gone up a lot. I myself graduated with 1500 in debt because I came up during “the generous years” :)
The payments were like 22 dollars a month. It was a nuisance. I paid it off with a tax refund.
@Kay: and the government could pick up the administrative costs relatively easily- young people will notice a decreased payment amount in their monthly bill
Judge in the case was also very insulting with her “no intent to harm Daunte”. How does a taser work?
also huge departure from the sentencing guidelines even for a first time offender.
This man runs a newspaper.
@Betty Cracker: I hope the dogs don’t find the holy hand grenade.
It’s not just that. Paying towards the principal makes debtors feel like they’re digging out of the hole. What kills them is being stuck- paying and not getting anywhere. We don’t want them stuck either. We want them to move on and have fabulous lives :)
There’s multiple major serious investigations of TFG going on NOW. Where’s the wall to wall coverage from NYT???
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Kay: My first academic job was teaching in a so-called non-profit private business college. The president of the college got a bonus for the “overage” they ran. I got out of there as quickly as I coul
ETA: On a happier topic, I recommend Lianne Moriarty’s NINE PERFECT STRANGERS. Nine people at a woo-woo health resort. Moriarty is really good at getting into characters’ heads.
@different-church-lady: The Google Machine says:
There ya go.
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
I have a technical degree from a community college and then a bachelors and then a law degree. The technical degree was objectively the most difficult. I never in my life worked harder in school, before or since. It’s basically “start doing this job you have no idea how to do and get judged really harshly, immediately”.
@Ohio Mom: Plus, being, you know, New-York-City based-dammit!, they had a duty to warn back in 2016, because the guy had been known for what he was around there for years, odious adulation by gossip columnists notwithstanding.
But not until the Ds have a secure 50 votes in the US Senate without Manchin. Or Sinema. Because if the Rs take the Senate, they will control all legislation as well as the Senate’s committee investigation powers, and approval (i.e. whether votes are even held on) federal bench nominations, etc.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Kay: IMHO, community college should be part of every school system, and free. That would reflect the changing needs of the job market and of the students.
Art school almost did me in. Two all-nighters every single week.
@Kay: I think if I joined Twitter, it’d be just to follow Brian Schatz.
I think this means that the legal obligation to keep stuff secret applies only to government employees. If a government official leaks classified information to the media, that official can be prosecuted for leaking, but the media can’t be prosecuted for publishing. The only exception is if the media actively helped the leaker get the information they leaked.
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
Oh, thank you! I’ve read two or three of her books, some years ago now, and remember enjoying them. I’ll give this a try — I’ve been immersing myself in Sayers-Christie-20th-century-England, in preparation for the class I plan to teach (which was approved yesterday, yay me!), but I’m feeling the need for a little break. This might be just the thing!
@cmorenc: Rt…. But it may not make much difference anyway
I’m seriously surprised that no one has front-paged Biden’s brief remarks yet. Seems like pretty major news to me.
Time to start shopping for Miss Marple half-capes*.
*Probably a more specific couturier term for that style?
Gradually, and then suddenly… GovExec:
Excellent. This is what oversight is about. TFG should not be able to profit from this corrupt lease (it should have been terminated before he took office) and sale.
I think I heard a bit of puff piece a few days ago that ARod was part of the investment group that was offering to buy the lease.
@Kay: if it’s good enough for homeowners it’s good enough for young ppl
Old Dan and Little Ann
My student loans piss me off every day. Paying for years on time. Deferred a bunch of years. Coming up on having to pay again. Nearing 47 with 10 years to go between the 2 of us. Where is that $500 going every month? Who is it helping at this point? I’m sure we would put all that money back into the world and help fuel other people.
Student loan relief should first be targeted at those who haven’t been able to pay them off in 10 years or more. The 10 year period evidences good faith but unsuccessful attempts at servicing and repaying the loans. For borrowers who used the loans for college, technical or vocational schools, the age range after 10 years would be in the 30-38 age range, which allows time to recover financial health.
Watching (in a desultory kind of way) Steve Schmidt (Schmitt?) on MSNBC, and am once again struck by what a robotic, Uncanny Valley intonation he has in his speaking voice.
Before I start shopping, for such a garment (I don’t know its name either), I first need to master knitting and gardening. Time enough for personal adornment.
@SiubhanDuinne: I assume that either they’re busy or Adam is working on something with 11,000 links. ;-)
Yeah, he was very, very blunt.
He gave the actual timeline as being very short: “week” (no “s”) or “days”.
I’m having flashbacks to the first Gulf War when the US’s overwhelming superiority was such a surprise to many. Biden has been very clear about warning of “devastating” consequences if VVP invades. Maybe not direct US vs Russia confrontation, but certainly economic and, er, I wouldn’t want to be in a truck or tank moving into Ukraine…
@Baud: I kept paying my son’s loan thru the deferral period. The loan is small enough it will be paid off within the 10-year public service period. I probably could have saved some bucks with the COVID deferral but oh well. Too much work to see if that would have extended it into the writeoff range.
LOL, true dat.
Gin & Tonic
@SiubhanDuinne: Yes, it is.
Gin & Tonic
@Another Scott: An awful lot of Ukrainians, if given the opportunity to kill the Russian invaders, will not have to be asked twice. Russia may have conventional superiority, but Ukrainians have motivation. This will be a bloodbath.
@debbie: My college roommate was an art major. She worked her ass off! I worked pretty hard too, but she got to sleep only about three nights a week. An all night projects due before every art class.
Well, now I’ve had that tune as an ear worm for the last hour. Thanks a bunch, Frank. But I love writing in 18.104.22.168 meter, and I’ll see what I can do.
I can’t look at the word ‘butter’ without thinking emails.
Exactly. I believe it was intentional; they were culling the herd to get rid of the weak and unserious.
Why don’t we do that here?
Pence wants to have his cake and choke on it too.
@eachother: Try this…..https://food52.com/blog/25230-how-to-make-cannabutte
@Kay: I have worked in financial aid for 28 years and I got through college doing work study in the financial aid department so I have watched changes for a long time. States don’t subsidize college tuition like they used to so tuition has been rising faster than inflation for more than 30 years. People don’t realize that when they went to college back before, they weren’t paying the real cost of their tuition. States used to pay most of it. With less money, Universities had to raise the price. It’s not happened evenly in all states. Florida and Texas have done better than most others. Michigan was sky high IMO 20 years ago, to the point it was cheaper for them to pay our out of state rate than their own instate. The New England area is mostly really high but so is a lot of the south. We are the exception mostly for that.
The other problem is minimum wage doesn’t have the buying power it used to and they can’t get by on non college part time work while going to school. They could in my parents time, it was hard in mine and I think it’s impossible now, especially with employers like Walmart that won’t give predictable shifts.
Next, the grant funding both federal and state haven’t kept up with costs even at a bargain state school so loans have increased and are now necessary for almost everyone. And we are an elite state school that the well off compete to get into”….
So I disagree with the people who say they paid their loans and don’t want lots of forgiveness. By not paying more taxes and funding all the people who will in the future be taking care of us, we have crippled a lot of future prosperity.
The rules also don’t have enough public service debt forgiveness. It used to be teacher got a lot. Now they don’t seem to get approved anymore. Doctors can, but I don’t know about nurses and I think we are going to have to do a lot to keep as many as we can.
@Baud: Hoping for some debt relief for other borrowers by then. I’d like to be able to retire someday.
Who’d be left?!?
@Salty Sam: I sang bass in the junior-high and high-school choirs at the church where I grew up, and it took me a minute to recognize that as the doxology (“Praise God from whom all blessings flow…”. Well done!,
BTW, did you know that the words to the doxology can be sung to the tune of “Hernando’s Hideaway”? Little known fact. Also, any Emily Dickinson poem can be sung to the tune of “The Yellow Rose of Texas”.
Those whose student loan debt gets canceled will be considerably less happy when it comes time to file their 1040s. Unless an exception applies, COI is included in gross income.
@Don K: Some wag in one of the comments called it the “Rocksology.”
@Burnspbesq: One of the rescue bills passed last year had a provision that any student loan forgiveness would not be counted as income.
@NotMax: Butter (62,300) emails. (But his) 15 boxes of cold hamberders. (“page A29 of the NYT.” Baud) A high cholesterol political diet.
@Cameron: Now we’re cooking with
@Gvg: The “have to” tuition inflation tracks perfectly with the “Let’s provide virtually unlimited, 100% non-dischargeable debt” and hang it around the necks of young folk who want to become educated. Sounds like a real winner.
Land grant colleges did a fabulous job of educating a bunch of peeps. Student loans have wrecked that model.
I graduated from the University of Illinois in 1978 with a few thousand dollars of loans. The rest was scholarships, some income from a programming job at the Psych department, and my parent’s money. The terms of the loans were 3% simple interest and I paid about $35 a month for 8 years or so. Compound interest is what kills you.
James E Powell
I want all their names. I am going to be phoning them as soon as they can vote.
J R in WV
I married Wife a few days after she graduated from WVU. In the first months of the marriage I learned she had a $500 loan from a bank up in Morgantown, cosigned by a professor who she studied with.
She paid it off damned quickly, was the money she subsisted on to finish her senior year.
Speaking of the talibangelical angle to the trucker convoy, Toronto is headquarters of one of the most poisonous of megachurch traditions, Toronto Blessing and the Vineyard Churches, so not at all surprised at the religious origins of the protest…https://www.patheos.com/blogs/rolltodisbelieve/2020/01/11/the-authoritarians-arise-in-the-toronto-blessing/
Gin & Tonic
Speaking of idiots, Twitter tells me that Rod Dreher got himself deported from Hungary.
Sister Golden Bear
Really excellent Twitter thread with a reminder about why we fight — applicable to not just trans issues — amid trans activist burnout from the ever-increasing number of threats against us. Among other things there’s been at least 320 anti-trans bills introduced so far this year.
For some reason I keep thinking of this poem:
I saw speculation that the ramp up in anti-gay violence was due to RWNJs need a new issue to get people riled up since abortion will soon be off the table.
Waiting for a Florida thread. I was talking (via phone) to my soon to be 90 year dad the other night, a lifelong republican. I would say he’s not been living in maga land or anything, but guessing that fox news is a primary source. Kind of out of the blue he says to me “if i had to pick one of them today, for 2024, I’d vote for DeSantis”. I didn’t address it, but was thinking wtf? It was the first time I realized that listening to him is like listening to Grandpa Simpson.
@Gin & Tonic: What did he do wrong? Mistake Orban for a vacuum cleaner?
Mike in NC
Ron DeSatan wants to be Trump on steroids. If he gets reelected in November, he’ll declare he’s running for president in December. Then the war on LGBTQ people will get turned up to 11 and it’ll be the top story every single day on FOX News.
Sister Golden Bear
@TheOtherHank: Us trans folks been the canaries in the coal mine for years. In the Memories thingie on the Satanic Book of Face,* I keep seeing posts from five or more years ago about the same damn things as today.
*Let’s not derail on the pros and cons of Facebook, like any mention of it seems to do. Suffice to say, I have reasons for being there—among them, social media being a way of using the master’s tools to dismantle the master’s house (Andre Lorde not withstanding). It, including FB, have been instrumental in connecting LGBTQ+ people who could be pretty isolated from each other even a decade ago.
@Gin & Tonic:
The entire Shengen Zone in Europe. You can only stay 90 days. He thought going home for two days reset this. It does not. So they locked him in the air port in Vienna until they can armed escort him to a plane and dump him in the UK.
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
@Gin & Tonic: Links? I didn’t see anything with a quick search.
@Mike in NC:
I don’t think DeSantis is smart enough. Pull the plug on his teleprompter at a news conference, and he’ll babble unintelligently. Better yet, cut off those accordion hands he keeps doing.
Chris Rufo (of both intelligent design and CRT fame) said the next thing to do is call drag queens “trans strippers” and show people trans strippers and use this to drive them from the public square. So this is exactly where they will be. Though why conservatives want to show trans strippers to each other is beyond me.
@Eunicecycle: That makes sense to me.
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
@Eunicecycle: I’m not so sure. They really had a lot of success riling up the base in the run up to 2016 with all those trans-panic bathroom bills. I think they’ve seen this as a winning issue for years now.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
By being a better person and doing the work to prove it. Even then, it’s not guaranteed. You ruined your own reputation and you need to own it
I guess DeSantis decided that Florida being the only state not providing COVID vaccinations for kids was not good look for him.
Ooo. Looks like Tuesday’s J6 hearing will include info about Trump’s attempts to “find votes” in Georgia.
@Scout211: But Florida will not get kid vaccines by Tuesday, I suspect.
Daoud bin Daoud
@eversor: hey, don’t kink shame!
The Moar You Know
My ass. I’ll be serving up some of his “reputation” sooner or later.
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Exactly right.
And, after the whiny complaint/request by DoJ, the J6 Cmmt will hand over their evidence to the executive branch sooner than they originally planned.
Correct. From the same article:
@Scout211: What a jerk.
@eversor: ugh. All I have to see is Chris Rufo and I want to vomit.
We went through something similar a few years back at UNC when the GOP gained a supermajority in the legislature and appointed a board of governors that closed down a pro bono clinic program at UNC Law that was representing people like poor folks in Eastern NC that were tired of getting pig shit sprayed on them by CAFOs. Nothing like having a university system board of governors populated by hog farmers, car dealers, and real estate developers. There’s always been a strain of anti-intellectualism in the GOP; here it dates back to assholes like Chub Seawell (who used to fill in for Jesse Helms at the local TV station in Raleigh) calling UNC the “University of Negroes and Communists.”
@Gin & Tonic: It was Austria. He had spent his 90 days in Hungary earlier in the year, came back to the US, and thought the limit applied per country. Austrian authorities assured him he was wrong.
@Daoud bin Daoud:
I can just imagine Rod Dreher, Sorhab Ahmari, and Chris Rufo showing suburban housewives videos of trans strippers “saying this is what they want reading books to your kids in libraries” followed by “why is everyone looking at us funny”.
I got your reputation right here , pal
Bruce K in ATH-GR
My answer to Hosseini is the same as my answer to where DeSantis can go for his apology.
He can go to hell.
OMFG, have these people ever worked in an office, made polite chit-chat with a stranger, interacted with their own goddamn grandparents, etc.? It’s mind-boggling!
The whining is the time honored right wing tradition of working the refs- whine about how you’re oppressed victims, all the time, no matter what. It’s how they get their way.
@debbie: DeSantis appears to be an idiot because he’s channeling what he thinks rightwing trolls want from a leader. And he’s got a damned good instinct for their hatreds, unfortunately. Don’t underestimate him. He’s a lot smarter than any of the other Trump pretenders.
@Gin & Tonic:
I’ma have to run down that story!
@Sister Golden Bear:
Terrifyingly and aggressively true.
I’ve been thinking on that essay, of late. Not coherent yet; it’s rightly lauded and unfairly misunderstood/misused, so I’m trying to step right on it, myself. :)
And it’s specifically trans people because plain old vanilla gay is not as inflammatory as it used to be.
O. Felix Culpa
My older gay friends are debating whether to attend Pride or not, given the threats of violence. And people who are not members of a targeted, vulnerable community do not get to say: “but *we* must fight back,” unless you’re putting your body on the line too. In which case, thank you for being an ally!
They’re expanding it as we speak. Allies and LGB people with privilege need to be vigilant and stand up for Trans people, but they will not stop there. The shift to bundling drag performers and transgender people into one “outsider” group is their bridge to go after everyone.
And apparently that asshole Rufo is now trying to tie Drag Queens to Sex Work via, well, lying his ass off and ginning up the overall Movement to do the same.
And he’s not even hiding that this is a tactic, a ploy, an abuse of words to heap more abuse on people.
I read this bullshyt in my local newspaper.
This angers me so much. Libraries are there for everyone.
Book bullies attempt to hide our diversity
Libraries, bookstores deal with patrons trying to keep titles on Black and LGBTQ people out of sight.
By Neil Steinberg Jun 16, 2022, 5:48pm CDT
Florida Chris (@chrislongview) tweeted at 7:15 AM on Fri, Jun 17, 2022:
the largest city in montana has no water and yellowstone, one of the biggest tourism revenue generators for the state and our country’s first and most famous national park is shut down, but enjoy the wine tour of Italy, governor.
Lily Adams (@adamslily) tweeted at 7:03 AM on Fri, Jun 17, 2022:
The sanctions team at Treasury is one of the most dedicated group of public servants I’ve ever met — who would defintiely embrace the term “nerd warriors”
Read a thorough deep dive on their work to disrupt and degrade Russia’s economy >> https://t.co/JHEJBQXvcb
Tangerine Baal is giving a speech in Nashville right now and confessing to crimes on camera, so the Jan. 6 committee video people may have to work over the weekend. (Saw clips on Twitter here.)
@Gin & Tonic:
Ha! The enormous bellend. Kicked out of the Kingdom of Christofascist Heaven.
Oh for fucks sake. No. Just no.
Sister Golden Bear
Coming soon to a conservative near you. From Christopher Rufo the guy who opening talks about pushing CRT as a slur unrelated to any reality about what’s actually taught in school in order to incite the wingers and shut down any discussion of racism. (From tweets that I won’t link to, but if you can report it, please do.)
Dreading to see how quickly this spreads.
@debbie: Bright or not bright, that isn’t the point to the voters who’ll vote for DeSantis. If they don’t already adore him, they will by the time 2024 rolls around. Youngkin got whoops and hollers at fundraisers here in SW Virginia when he pledged to govern like DeSantis.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Betty Cracker: Oy
He can’t not talk about his grievances, but he has an instinct for getting them back. As Tweety Matthews put it in an appropriately gross way, ‘he listens with his tongue’
@Sister Golden Bear: Rufo is like a rattlesnake in that he warns before he strikes. He explained exactly why he picked CRT as a subject to demagogue in a similarly detailed and public way.
Trump is jumping on the anti-trans bandwagon in a less articulate way. In a speech that’s being delivered right now, he said, “No teacher should ever be allowed to teach transgender to our children.” As if it’s a language or mathematical formula.
@Sister Golden Bear: It already is spreading like wildfire. They found a picture of a 5 yo girl putting dollars bills in the garter of a burlesque performer (apparently this happened in NOLA 3 freaking years ago), so of course that is making the rounds right now. And they’re calling drag queens drag strippers….
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Just saw that clip too! He weirdly over-pronounces “woke gender ideology” as if it were the “woman man camera TV” test. It’s the sincerest form of flattery for DeSantis.
Sister Golden Bear
@Betty Cracker: They’re inciting stochastic terrorism and when LGBTQ+ people start getting killed, that’ll be a feature, not a bug.
At least one political and several mega-church pastors have openly talked about killing every single last one of us. “Bullet to the back of the head” sayeth one of God’s gentle loving people.
Sister Golden Bear
@louc: As someone who’s an actual burlesque performer, it’s probably only a matter of time before one my show photos ends in their hands.
I hate the idea of having guns in my house, but if I doxxed, it may be prudent.
@Sister Golden Bear: Those types like Rufo seem to be really adept at these ‘language shifts.’ For a while now (and I’m guessing lawyers here could explain why this isn’t my most practical notion, aside from the expense and mental turmoil), I’ve been thinking private citizens could be suing these creeps for libel or slander. But here you’d be re-victimizing strippers. I wonder if bullying or harassment could be grounds for a suit, maybe even a class action suit, because plenty of people are going to be affected.
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
He had no problems with transgenders and drag queens back in his Studio 54 days. His hypocrisy needs to be called out and mocked very, very loudly.
@Sister Golden Bear: we should swamp it out by saying, What? TRANSISTOR? every time they try to use “trans stripper”.
Sister Golden Bear
@debbie: just a friendly FYI we’re trans people not “transgenders.”
And yes his hypocrisy should be called out.
J R in WV
@Sister Golden Bear:
There is more to it than just acquiring a weapon.
You may know all this, but you will need training in breaking down, cleaning, and reassembling your selected weapon after cleaning it. Youtube can help with cleaning procedures.
You should also connect with a good shooting range where you can learn safety, targeting, etc. Shoot regularly, perhaps with friends who also have decided they need to protect themselves and their families. Practice won’t make perfect, but it gets you closer and closer.
Rufo just chases the latest crazy. The Christian intelligista has been ranting about trans for some time now. It was Rod Dreher who dug up drag queen story hour and Desmond (child trans dancer) and blew it into a huge thing. This was well over a year ago. Then Sorhab Ahmari picked up and beat David French over the head with it as to why freedoms must go away and government must instate Christian law or it’s evil.
Just like CRT and Intelligent Design Rufo showed up late to a religious fight and is now grifting by lying his ass off and creating a huge scene to convince the bible bangers they have a winning tactic. People will get hurt and he’ll flee the wreckage and move onto the next thing.
Notice how NOBODY talks about intelligent design anymore? Notice how CRT dropped off the radar and now it’s all trans all the time?
Rod Dreher and co are out their demanding people give Rufo money because “he fights” and Rufo is laughing all the way to the bank from his cushy think tank job.
@J R in WV:
The difficulty also depends on the weapon, former military here. For home defense you want to keep it simple and you don’t need tactical porn. Go get a break loading double barreled shotgun and a 38 revolver. The shotgun is all the blam you need, impossible to miss with for home defense, and doesn’t fly through the damn wall. And it will blow someone in half. It, along with the revolver, will not jam or malfunction unless the round is just bad. Very easy to clean, and very very very safe because you can see the rounds so there is no question if the stupid thing is loaded or not. Also both of these guns are fun as hell to shoot and do not make you look like a right winger, these are guns with class!
If you decide you like shooting, you will, then get a bolt action rilfe and do some distance shooting.
If you must get an automatic pistol (and for home defense this makes no sense) get something like a 1911, aka a 45 with an actual safety and not the trigger dingus. The stupid safe triggers are why idiots are forever shooting themselves with things like Glocks but you almost never hear of that with something like a 45 (outside of cleaning) and probably will never hear of it with a revolver.
Don’t be squeamish about it. Here in NOVA it’s full of liberals with guns because of the military and intel around here and nobody goes on rampages or causes as mess. It’s also fun when conservative people say “liberals hate guns” and you can say “I’m liberal and I own three guns, and I support gun control”.
@debbie: Is it time yet to dig out those old pictures of Rudy Giuliani?
Trump had no problem with Rudy Giuliani in drag. (Studiously not looking for a link.)
Sister Golden Bear
@J R in WV:
Oh I know. (As well as having done the self-examination of whether I’m capable of shooting/killing another human being.) Having to do the maintenance, and more importantly regular training, are definitely among of the reason I’d rather not. I’ve got other things I’d much rather be doing with my time.
@Sister Golden Bear:
Apologies. I was mirroring TFG’s statement in that video and wasn’t thinking.
@Sister Golden Bear:
To be horrific there is killing and then there is killing. It’s one thing when you are tasked with carrying out a mission and it’s a deliberate thing, it’s a whole nother ball game when you or someone you love’s life is at risk. People do all sorts of crazy shit when they are backed into a corner and have to.
The point of getting the gun is not to use it, it’s so you don’t screw it up if you have to use it. And if you are already questioning if you can kill someone, rather just blindly assuming can, you’re responsible enough to own one.
‘@Sister Golden Bear:
Call me old-fashioned but I prefer to think of everybody as “people,” with no antecedent qualifiers necessary.
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: It’s all his speeches ever are, just a rambling whine of all his grievances. I’m listening to it now.
“If I were president blah blah blah….
Well, you’re not, thank the gods
( and I’m in moderation. what did i doooo?)
He cant be stupider or more ignorant than Trump i think. not a disqualifier in today’s environment
Villago Delenda Est
Hosseini can fuck right off. Parasites like him are destroying this country.
Villago Delenda Est
I’m in moderation too for telling Hosseini to fuck off!
@2liberal: The problem with ruling out potential Republican nominees is that they all are more or less deficient in character, charisma etc., but one of them will still win the nomination in 2024. With that party’s current mood, the question isn’t, is he too big an asshole? but rather, is he a big enough asshole?
If I had to deal with people like that regularly, I’d have the Dennis the Peasant scene from MP&HG perpetually cued up and ready to play. “Help, help, I’m being repressed, come see the violence inherent in the system!”
@Sister Golden Bear: I stumbled across this Trans-Advocacy/Anti-Racism video yesterday. Would love to hear longer talks on this subject as I think it is going to become increasingly important for those of us on the Left to help people make this connection between Transphobia and White Supremacy and understand why it’s so important to stand up for Trans Rights.
PS- to the Front-Pagers: would love to see you let SGB or other commenters from the LGBTQ (especially T) communities be allowed to write some posts (assuming they are interested) on this terrain above the comments/fold. I feel like it would not only be good for greater diversity of voices at this blog, but it would just be the right thing to do in a time when their community is being so horrifically targeted by the GOP/Nazis in this country.
Sister Golden Bear
While I appreciate the sentiment, it comes across as kind of the equivalent of saying “I don’t see color.” Just as being a Black woman (or man) usually involves certain experiences that are integral to who they are, same thing with trans folks. So ignoring the adjective — they’re not qualifiers, at least when we use them — is a bit of an erasure.
A better way to put it is “trans woman are women; trans men are men.” I.e. while we may have experiences that differs from other women and men — just as there’s a wide variety of experience among women and men in general — we’re still part of the larger whole.
Love me some Betty Cracker.
Hahaha, “U-Heil”! Betty, you are a treasure. Keep having fun–the spirit of Molly Ivins shines upon you.