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You are here: Home / Economics / C.R.E.A.M. / Late Night Open Thread: If the Fire *Must* Fall…

Late Night Open Thread: If the Fire *Must* Fall…

by Anne Laurie|  March 4, 20222:25 am| 34 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Open Threads

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Me, a week ago: Man, I’m sure sick of Twitter being about crypto and NFTs all the time. pic.twitter.com/y1vOxep3j9

— Damion Schubert, Zen Designer (@ZenOfDesign) March 1, 2022

There’s some consolation in knowing it will end hype-machines like this.

Friends With Benefits has been compared to a “decentralized Soho House” and a group chat with a bank account. Last year, investors also declared it was worth $100 million.

I flew to LA to find out what was behind the hype.

with @kevinroose:https://t.co/LyJ6RCHNcV

— Erin Woo (@erinkwoo) March 2, 2022


The perfect modern FTFNYT story! Because, really, if it doesn’t involve $MONEY$, what is the point of friendship?

On a recent afternoon, nine members of the crypto social club Friends With Benefits sat in the historic Bradbury Building in downtown Los Angeles, testing out a new beverage — a flavored, sparkling yerba maté that the group had developed with a coffee company.

As members sipped from their glasses, Joey Rubin, a leader of the group’s Los Angeles chapter, explained that the drink contained adaptogens, herbs said to increase focus and stimulate creativity.

There were some blank stares. Adapto-what-nows?

“It makes your soda $6 instead of $2,” Mr. Rubin explained…

DAOs [decentralized autonomous organizations], which have been described as “financial flash mobs” or “group chats with bank accounts,” are among the fastest-growing parts of the crypto ecosystem. There are thousands of DAOs organized around a variety of causes, from managing decentralized crypto exchanges to bidding on historic copies of the Constitution. The largest DAOs have thousands of members, and some control billions of dollars’ worth of cryptocurrency…

The group was started in 2020 when Trevor McFedries, a digital entrepreneur, got the idea for an online club for his friends in the art and music worlds, with a private chat room that they would use special cryptocurrency tokens to unlock.

“I wanted a place for my creative peers who were so skeptical of tech and finance to have a little light at the end of the tunnel,” he said.

Mr. McFedries’s theory — which he tested by creating a token called $FWB and sending it to some of his Twitter followers — was that attaching cryptocurrency to an online social club would give members an incentive to make it a fun, interesting place to hang out. The more fun people were having, he thought, the more newcomers would want to join, and the more valuable their tokens would become.

With Friends With Benefits, “what you’re getting is vibes,” he said. “This token is starting to reflect some of the value of those vibes.”

The group’s rapid growth soon attracted investors, who saw Friends With Benefits less as a fully formed start-up than a crowd of crypto enthusiasts from which the next great web3 ventures might emerge. In a blog post announcing its investment, Andreessen Horowitz compared the group to the merchants of 13th-century Venice and the Homebrew Computer Club, the Silicon Valley hobbyist group where Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak debuted the Apple computer in 1976…

To join, applicants are vetted by a committee of current members. If approved — only about 20 percent are — they receive certain perks based on how many of the group’s in-house $FWB token they own.

Members with at least one $FWB token (current price: about $45) can read the group’s newsletter and blog posts. Local membership, which requires holding at least five tokens, comes with limited access to the group’s chat rooms on Discord, a talking and texting app, as well as entry to offline events. Global membership costs 75 $FWB — roughly $3,400 today — and includes access to all Discord chat rooms. (Friends With Benefits lent a Times reporter five $FWB tokens in order to view the Discord chats; those tokens have been returned, and the reporter does not have a stake in the organization.)…

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34Comments

  1. 1.

    cain

    March 4, 2022 at 2:30 am

    “It makes your soda $6 instead of $2,” Mr. Rubin explained…

    lol – yeah, that’s what it is all about.

  2. 2.

    Hkedi [Kang T. Q.]

    March 4, 2022 at 2:52 am

    A DAO and their monies are soon parted.  The classics updated for 2022

  3. 3.

    opiejeanne

    March 4, 2022 at 2:58 am

    Blech!

  4. 4.

    opiejeanne

    March 4, 2022 at 2:59 am

    The Bright Young Things, before the crash. Is this going to be the roaring 2020s?

  5. 5.

    opiejeanne

    March 4, 2022 at 3:01 am

    @cain:
    Certain populations that should avoid adaptogen use include:

    • Pregnant and breastfeeding women.
    • Diabetics.
    • People with high or low blood pressure.
    • People with stomach ulcers or history of them.
    • People with autoimmune disorders — especially thyroid disorders.
    • Surgery candidates.
  6. 6.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 4, 2022 at 3:06 am

    Punch them all in the fucking dick.

  7. 7.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 4, 2022 at 3:11 am

    @opiejeanne: I hope these bitchass, shitass, trustfund, shitstains heavily invested in Russia.

  8. 8.

    Villago Delenda Est

    March 4, 2022 at 3:21 am

    These dudebros all need to be drafted into the Marine Corps and feel the pain inflicted by Marine DIs.

  9. 9.

    opiejeanne

    March 4, 2022 at 3:47 am

    @mrmoshpotato: They are clueless.

    I hope that when all the Bitcoin and clones come crashing down it doesn’t take the economy with it. I don’t think it will, I don’t think it’s entwined enough.  Yet.

  10. 10.

    bjacques

    March 4, 2022 at 3:49 am

    I take back what I said last thread.

    No, I don’t, but goddamn.

    I liked Bright Young Things better when they were called Vile Bodies.

  11. 11.

    NotMax

    March 4, 2022 at 4:11 am

    Speaking of the deluge of beverages we don’t need….

  12. 12.

    bjacques

    March 4, 2022 at 4:25 am

    @NotMax: it’s no OK Cola.

    EDIT: Er…OK Soda

  13. 13.

    Anyway

    March 4, 2022 at 5:21 am

    Bill Barr’s ugly mug is on MSNBC talking about his last days with the Mango Mussolini. Had to to turn it off. No pushback from the teevee person about his responsibilities to the public as AG.

  14. 14.

    alurkerstempnym

    March 4, 2022 at 5:26 am

    @mrmoshpotato: This is the best response.

  15. 15.

    different-church-lady

    March 4, 2022 at 6:34 am

    Meanwhile I constantly wonder how I’m going to keep paying for the roof over my head.

  16. 16.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    March 4, 2022 at 7:04 am

    Nerds!

  17. 17.

    matt

    March 4, 2022 at 7:44 am

    ‘if you pay me, you can be my friend’

  18. 18.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    March 4, 2022 at 7:50 am

    This sounds like a dork version of Studio 54.

  19. 19.

    Ken

    March 4, 2022 at 8:05 am

    that attaching cryptocurrency to an online social club would give members an incentive to make it a fun, interesting place to hang out

    Because most people are unhappy and bored with their online social clubs, and just participate out of a vague sense of duty?

  20. 20.

    Ksmiami

    March 4, 2022 at 8:10 am

    @opiejeanne: nah it’s still a really small part of the financial economy. I look forward to Bitcoin and crypto collapsing. It’s literally a criminal money laundering greater fool scam.

  21. 21.

    BruceFromOhio

    March 4, 2022 at 8:11 am

    The more fun people were having, he thought, the more newcomers would want to join, and the more valuable their tokens would become.

    Ponzi meets Amway.

  22. 22.

    SFAW

    March 4, 2022 at 8:26 am

    Did one of their “members” resemble Alfalfa Switzer? Are they going to change the name to some not-obviously-misogynistic version of “He-Man Woman Haters Club”? Will the password change from cryptocurrency to “swordfish”? [Apologies for mixing genres.]

    I really appreciate this post. Because, no matter how much my high-level brain functions deteriorate, I will never be as moronic as these assholes.

  23. 23.

    SFAW

    March 4, 2022 at 8:28 am

    @Ken:

    Because most people are unhappy and bored with their online social clubs, and just participate out of a vague sense of duty?

    What, and leave this joint?

  24. 24.

    Bill Arnold

    March 4, 2022 at 9:27 am

    Sounds like a prosperity gospel.

  25. 25.

    barbequebob

    March 4, 2022 at 9:57 am

    @SFAW: My first computer password was Swordfish. Big fan of the Marx Brothers.

  26. 26.

    Mom Says I*m Handsome

    March 4, 2022 at 10:16 am

    Ugh. The future is so stupid.

    I can’t recommend highly enough this video that explains crypto and NFT’s with the proper mix of technical detail & withering social commentary. It’s the first time I’ve watched a 2+ hour YouTube of anything — absolutely captivating. youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g

    TL;DR – Stay far, far away from all of this nonsense.

  27. 27.

    Just One More Canuck

    March 4, 2022 at 10:19 am

    @mrmoshpotato: the simplest solutions are usuallly the best

  28. 28.

    opiejeanne

    March 4, 2022 at 10:26 am

    @bjacques: A fan of Evelyn Waugh.

  29. 29.

    Chip Daniels

    March 4, 2022 at 10:41 am

    I read somewhere a year or so ago about all the new money from Russia and China sloshing around the financial world and how it has created its own ecosystem, sort of like a vast pool of plankton that sustains an entire sea of various types of fishes, sharks and remorae.

    I think about those superyachts and multi-million dollar mansions and townhouses and how all that dirty money filters down through our society and how it warps and distorts everything.

  30. 30.

    oatler

    March 4, 2022 at 10:49 am

    Dear Friend: This is a chain letter…

  31. 31.

    SamIAm

    March 4, 2022 at 11:48 am

    @opiejeanne:

    From Wikipedia:

    The term “adaptogenesis” was later applied in the former Soviet Union to describe remedies thought to increase the resistance of organisms to biological stress.[2] Most of the studies conducted on adaptogens were performed in the Soviet Union, Korea, and China before the 1980s, and have been dismissed for various methodological flaws and false concepts.[3] The term is currently not accepted in pharmacological, physiological, or mainstream clinical practices in the European Union

     
    So meaningless and dangerous

  32. 32.

    Cathie from Canada

    March 4, 2022 at 1:36 pm

    Hmmm…. 
    It SOUNDS like English.
    It LOOKS like English.
    It even READS like English. 
    But as I get further into the article, I realize I actually have NO IDEA AT ALL what these people are talking about.

  33. 33.

    bruce.desertrat

    March 4, 2022 at 4:56 pm

    “The Billionaire Boys Club 2:Crypto Boogaloo”..

  34. 34.

    Quaker in a Basement

    March 4, 2022 at 11:30 pm

    If it “creates wealth” without creating anything else, keep a hand on your wallet.

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