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Putin’s War Open Thread: Graphic Takes

by Anne Laurie|  March 16, 20228:07 pm| 122 Comments

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(John Deering via GoComics.com)

I have translated and added subtitles to the latest video speech by Vladimir Putin from two hours ago. Please don’t let it go in vain – I want everyone to see what a speech of true fascism looks like.

No further comment needed, it’s all here, in his speech pic.twitter.com/QEzsG9BODX

— Michael Elgort ?❤️???✡️ (@just_whatever) March 16, 2022



Putin's War Open Thread: Graphic Takes

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Putin complaining about cancel culture when he literally sent an army to kill a comedian https://t.co/I9B9XOQWxz

— The Daily Show (@TheDailyShow) March 16, 2022

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(Jack Ohman via GoComics.com)

Putin has collapsed Russian power faster than the unraveling of the Soviet position from 1977-1980 (yes, pre-Reagan), and even faster than the Tsar in 1917. We’re seeing something happen in real time that has no historical precedent for speed. https://t.co/rG7V03I47q

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) March 16, 2022

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truly remarkable how this guy went from feared 3d chessmaster to a sniveling dark web podcaster in one month. he’ll be selling survival buckets featuring superbeets by easter https://t.co/dkGu33o1xY

— kilgore trout, death to putiner (@KT_So_It_Goes) March 16, 2022

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122Comments

  1. 1.

    Baud

    March 16, 2022 at 8:10 pm

    He’ll always have a home on substack.

  2. 2.

    burnspbesq

    March 16, 2022 at 8:11 pm

    Dude with nukes who’s old and quite possibly sick and has lost his shit. Scary.

  3. 3.

    bbleh

    March 16, 2022 at 8:13 pm

    @burnspbesq:  Yes. I occasionally think, “what would Trump do in this situation?” And then I realize that Putin is both smarter and less cowardly than Trump…

  4. 4.

    Cameron

    March 16, 2022 at 8:13 pm

    He could split for Brazil and hang with Bolsonero and Greenwald.

  5. 5.

    WaterGirl

    March 16, 2022 at 8:13 pm

    Is it just me, or were those paranoid ramblings in the first tweet?

  6. 6.

    SpaceUnit

    March 16, 2022 at 8:16 pm

    FWIW, the Ukrainians are fighting the smarter fight.  I heard they managed to erect a toll gate in advance of the approaching convoy.    The tanks had to send somebody all the way back to Russia for a shitload of dimes.

  7. 7.

    burnspbesq

    March 16, 2022 at 8:16 pm

    I wonder what the succession plan is if he should pop a brain aneurysm.

  8. 8.

    burnspbesq

    March 16, 2022 at 8:18 pm

    @SpaceUnit:

    “LePutinmane Thruway? What’ll that asshole think of next?”

  9. 9.

    dmsilev

    March 16, 2022 at 8:19 pm

    Trump saying that Putin has changed, the guy he knew would never do such a thing, blah blah blah is his usual blather for the most part, but it’s telling. One of the manifestations of  Trump’s sociopathy is that he seems to have an instinct about when is the right time to backstab a former ally who is now a liability. If even he thinks is on the ropes…

  10. 10.

    E.

    March 16, 2022 at 8:21 pm

    My God if that speech is accurately translated . . . . This man is much worse than I thought, and Russia is in for civil war. “Self purification of our nation”? By “spitting out” the “traitors and scum” and supporters of “gender freedom” onto the sidewalk??? Holy shite.

  11. 11.

    John Revolta

    March 16, 2022 at 8:22 pm

    Hopefully everyone who ever used that stupid “cancel” whine feels real proud right now.

  12. 12.

    bbleh

    March 16, 2022 at 8:22 pm

    @SpaceUnit: … and the really clever part was, because of currency and banking restrictions, the Russians couldn’t get any dimes!

    Also, they had one of those Turnpike toll-ladies at the booth, and you do NOT fk with them …

  13. 13.

    different-church-lady

    March 16, 2022 at 8:23 pm

    @WaterGirl:  There’s a lot of it about.

  14. 14.

    Mike E

    March 16, 2022 at 8:23 pm

    Yep, never go the full Tr*mp.

  15. 15.

    Calouste

    March 16, 2022 at 8:23 pm

    British Ministry of Defence says that Russia has spend more of their modern weapons than they expected, and they now have to use the older stuff. Less precise, less effective, and according to the MoD more likely to cause civilian casualties, but as the Russians have been explicitly targeting civilians, that might not be the case.

  16. 16.

    WaterGirl

    March 16, 2022 at 8:24 pm

    In that second tweet, is Putin declaring war on… Russia?

  17. 17.

    PJ

    March 16, 2022 at 8:24 pm

    Don’t count Putin out – if he survives this war and its aftermath (and, right now, I’d put that at 50/50), look for him to be the keynote speaker at the next CPAC meeting.

  18. 18.

    PJ

    March 16, 2022 at 8:25 pm

    @WaterGirl: Certain elements in Russia – anybody who is thinking about turning him in or taking him out.

  19. 19.

    different-church-lady

    March 16, 2022 at 8:26 pm

    @John Revolta: It strikes me as very very weird how the American paranoid style seems to be wagging the Putin rhetorical dog here.

  20. 20.

    bbleh

    March 16, 2022 at 8:26 pm

    @WaterGirl: @different-church-lady: well, it’s Spring weather, and that gets the paranoiacs out of their winter hiding places and into the open, where they ramble in search of mates.

  21. 21.

    different-church-lady

    March 16, 2022 at 8:27 pm

    @PJ: All he has to do is flip Pennsylvania and Michigan.

  22. 22.

    different-church-lady

    March 16, 2022 at 8:29 pm

    @bbleh: That and the vintage convertibles.

  23. 23.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    March 16, 2022 at 8:29 pm

    A fourth Russian general has reportedly been killed in the war in Ukraine, dealing the Kremlin yet another blow to the top ranks of its armed forces.

    Maj. Gen. Oleg Mityaev was killed on Tuesday during a battle in Mariupol, according to Ukrainian Interior Ministry adviser Anton Gerashchenko, who posted a graphic photo on social media purportedly of the dead general.

    These high value targets being canceled can only only mean Carrie Mathison is on the ground.

  24. 24.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    March 16, 2022 at 8:30 pm

    @Baud:

    God, that’s beautiful…(sniff)

  25. 25.

    bbleh

    March 16, 2022 at 8:31 pm

    @different-church-lady: (finding relevant music vids is left as an exercise for the reader)

  26. 26.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    March 16, 2022 at 8:32 pm

    @David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch:

    Russian Major Generals have shorter lifespans than Al Quaeda Number 3 men….

  27. 27.

    Baud

    March 16, 2022 at 8:34 pm

    I blame leaded gasoline.

  28. 28.

    Mokum

    March 16, 2022 at 8:35 pm

    @E.: I know. The Gulag will be opening up the coming weeks. Yesterday people asked for books to understand Russia. You can do worse than read Solzhenitsyn.

  29. 29.

    Sure Lurkalot

    March 16, 2022 at 8:36 pm

    @Baud: Bari Weiss offers Putin a tenure track position at University of Austin?

  30. 30.

    debbie

    March 16, 2022 at 8:40 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    I feel like you’re normalizing Trump.  //

  31. 31.

    Baud

    March 16, 2022 at 8:41 pm

    @Sure Lurkalot:

    The Donald Trump Chair in the Poly Sci department.

  32. 32.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    March 16, 2022 at 8:41 pm

    Putin railing against russians living overseas in “mansions” eating “foie gras” selling out the motherland to party with the “higher caste” sounds like he’s freaking out over complaints he’s receiving from oligarchs.

  33. 33.

    debbie

    March 16, 2022 at 8:43 pm

    @PJ:

    No way can he stay in any sort of office. This will just happen all over again.

  34. 34.

    PJ

    March 16, 2022 at 8:46 pm

    @Sure Lurkalot: Peter Thiel has promised to endow for him the Chair of Government, Foreign Relations, and Nuclear and Chemical Weapon Assassinations.

  35. 35.

    HumboldtBlue

    March 16, 2022 at 8:52 pm

    Ukraine firefighters do their best to save a trapped cat.

    And what the Russians are doing is simply an ongoing war crime. NSFW

  36. 36.

    Gvg

    March 16, 2022 at 8:54 pm

    @different-church-lady: apparently Russians tend to think in conspiracy theory, which made it easy to lead our kooks off the deeper end, but they weren’t faking it and maybe even brought back some of our stupider crackpot ideas.  Both sides are infected.

  37. 37.

    Kalakal

    March 16, 2022 at 8:54 pm

    @dmsilev: If Putin thinks Trump is backstabbing him it will not go well for the Mango Mussolini.

    I would love to see an ‘accidental’ release  of Putrid’s files on Drumpf. I’m sure Putin would never resort to violent means of revenge

  38. 38.

    Martin

    March 16, 2022 at 8:55 pm

    @David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: I think it’s setting the ground for ‘we lost in Ukraine because of disloyal Russians’. Yeah, he’s going full fash. The invasions will resume once the dissidents have been purged.

  39. 39.

    West of the Rockies

    March 16, 2022 at 8:56 pm

    I don’t understand why some cartoons show Putin as slim.  He is a moon-faced, thick little goblin.

  40. 40.

    Cacti

    March 16, 2022 at 8:57 pm

    @PJ: Peter Thiel left his job with Facebook to spend more time with his fascism.

  41. 41.

    Splitting Image

    March 16, 2022 at 8:58 pm

    @bbleh:

    @different-church-lady: (finding relevant music vids is left as an exercise for the reader)

    Music vids? Vintage cars?

    Here y’are.

    Jonathan Richman and the Modern Lovers, “Roadrunner”

  42. 42.

    Suzanne

    March 16, 2022 at 8:59 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    I wonder what the succession plan is if he should pop a brain aneurysm.

     
    What are the odds that Queen Elizabeth survives him?

  43. 43.

    Dangerman

    March 16, 2022 at 9:00 pm

    @David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: Dude has a billion dollar house and he’s making THAT noise?

  44. 44.

    HumboldtBlue

    March 16, 2022 at 9:02 pm

    @West of the Rockies:

    The Butter Goblin?

  45. 45.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    March 16, 2022 at 9:02 pm

    @bbleh: They have faster lanes with one of those baskets, but did you ever try to hit one of those little baskets from the top of a tank?

    Convoy gets hung up for hours as people search through the snow for the coins that missed.

  46. 46.

    Martin

    March 16, 2022 at 9:03 pm

    @Dangerman: Donald Trump is the ultimate man of the people, don’t you know.

  47. 47.

    SpaceUnit

    March 16, 2022 at 9:06 pm

    Also, to hell with unity.  Dems need to tie this Russian shitshow around the Republican Party’s neck and strangle it to death.

    Trump’s cozy, off-the-record meeting with Putin.  All those Russian wise guys hanging around Trump and Rudy G.  That Fourth of July trip to Moscow by a contingent of Republican office-holders.  Russian influence in the NRA.  Withholding Military aid to Ukraine for political leverage.  Etc., etc.

    Screw unity.

  48. 48.

    Sebastian

    March 16, 2022 at 9:07 pm

    If I am assessing the situation correctly (FWIW), then we are going to see dramatic results in a very short time.

     

    The Russians are out of smart ordinance, they stated so themselves in the missile-silo-retreat where Putin and the siloviki spoke about not having enough missiles and that manufacturing would take 3-6 months (if they get the raw materials, something which is in question now).

    The Russians are stuck in the mud, without supplies, morale is shit. They have Chechens shooting deserters. Urban combat is a pipe dream as they don’t have enough troops to conquer any of the large cities.

    They are very successful in rolling over villages and small towns in the South and East because their supply lines are short and villages are hard to defend, unlike a dense urban environment.

    They are currently bombing the shit out of several cities, besieging them as the Serbs did in Croatia and Bosnia or the Russians in Grozny and Aleppo. Once everyone in the city is dead from shelling, freezing, thirst, hunger, and disease, the Russians will march in and execute everyone and declare victory.

    Here is the problem for the Russians:

    US High Tech Weaponry. Those Switchblade drones, of which we are officially shipping one hundred, are super nasty for artillery. You sneak up on the fuckers, let the drone loose, the drone makes a beeline to the ammo dumps. KABLOOWEY! If you think it will be only a hundred of those drones I have a bridge to sell you.

    I believe we’ll see a significant decrease in Russian artillery capability real soon. There will be a lot of dead Russian and Chechen officers and generals and support staff for the same reason. Soon thereafter we will see counteroffensives which will be surprising and astonishing in their velocity. It is likely that Ukrainian forces will gain a myth of Blitzkrieg capabilities. The reason I believe that is because Croatia pulled off the same thing under similar circumstances.

  49. 49.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    March 16, 2022 at 9:08 pm

    @Martin: ​
     liquidate the Kulaks, restore order

  50. 50.

    Alison Rose ???

    March 16, 2022 at 9:11 pm

    @WaterGirl: Pretty sure “paranoid ramblings” is the only language he speaks now

  51. 51.

    Cameron

    March 16, 2022 at 9:12 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I’d try to do some lyrics for “I Am The Vova Model Of A Russian Major General,” but TBH I don’t remember my G&S well enough for a parody.

  52. 52.

    West of the Rockies

    March 16, 2022 at 9:15 pm

    @Sebastian:

    I hope you are correct on all fronts.

  53. 53.

    White & Gold Purgatorian

    March 16, 2022 at 9:16 pm

    @West of the Rockies:  Putin’s face used to be a lot thinner and it seems odd how much broader it is now at brow and cheeks. The rest of him used to be slimmer as well, but it isn’t odd to put on a few pounds over the years. The facial changes … I don’t know. Looks like the guy hasn’t been living right to me.

  54. 54.

    dmsilev

    March 16, 2022 at 9:19 pm

    @Kalakal: The phrase “root for injuries” comes to mind.

  55. 55.

    Kalakal

    March 16, 2022 at 9:19 pm

    @Sebastian:Those  long stalled convoys are within a hairs breadth of converting into pre-assembled lines of POWS. They’ve been stuck and on minimal supplies for at least a week while being whittled down by constant harrassment. Their morale must be non existant

  56. 56.

    Kalakal

    March 16, 2022 at 9:21 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: I tip my hat

  57. 57.

    Gin & Tonic

    March 16, 2022 at 9:21 pm

    @Cameron: Paging Subaru Diane! Subaru Diane to the white courtesy phone, please.

  58. 58.

    Gin & Tonic

    March 16, 2022 at 9:22 pm

    @White & Gold Purgatorian: My dear wife, a pharmacist, looks at him and says “prednisone.”

  59. 59.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 16, 2022 at 9:23 pm

    @Sebastian: the Brits are sending their version of the switchblades, and Barry McCaffrey on MSNBC the other day said that France and Australia have some very impressive technology

  60. 60.

    Martin

    March 16, 2022 at 9:24 pm

    @David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: Is that your advice for Russia or the US? I’ve sorta been advocating that for the US for a while.

  61. 61.

    zhena gogolia

    March 16, 2022 at 9:25 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Exactly!

  62. 62.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 16, 2022 at 9:27 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    I’m here, what up?

  63. 63.

    brendancalling

    March 16, 2022 at 9:28 pm

    @SpaceUnit: you win this thread.

  64. 64.

    Suzanne

    March 16, 2022 at 9:29 pm

    @SpaceUnit:

    Also, to hell with unity.  Dems need to tie this Russian shitshow around the Republican Party’s neck and strangle it to death. 

    100%.
    God, being a Trump Republican has got to be just humiliating. That complete moron, that used-car salesman, that game-show host… has completely shredded that last credibility you might have had. He tweeted about wanting a war criminal to be his best friend. The war criminal wanted him to be in office. He shook down the president of Ukraine, who has turned out to be a generational hero, for a cheap political favor. God. I can’t imagine how embarrassed I’d feel, for everyone to know that I had such terrible judgment.

  65. 65.

    dmsilev

    March 16, 2022 at 9:30 pm

    @Kalakal: From FTNYT, As Russian Troop Deaths Climb, Morale Becomes an Issue, Officials Say

    Hell of an opening paragraph:

    In 36 days of fighting on Iwo Jima during World War II, nearly 7,000 Marines were killed. Now, 20 days after President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia invaded Ukraine, his military has already lost more soldiers, according to American intelligence estimates. The conservative side of the estimate, at more than 7,000 Russian troop deaths, is greater than the number of American troops killed over 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.

    Pentagon officials say that a high, and rising, number of war dead can destroy the will to continue fighting. The result, they say, has shown up in intelligence reports that senior officials in the Biden administration read every day: One recent report focused on low morale among Russian troops and described soldiers just parking their vehicles and walking off into the woods.
    The American officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss operational matters, caution that their numbers of Russian troop deaths are inexact, compiled through analysis of the news media, Ukrainian figures (which tend to be high, with the latest at 13,500), Russian figures (which tend to be low, with the latest at 498), satellite imagery and careful perusal of video images of Russian tanks and troops that come under fire.

  66. 66.

    CaseyL

    March 16, 2022 at 9:31 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: I figured it was some kind of steroid.  That doesn’t narrow down what might be ailing him, though: steroids are magical drugs that work well against all sorts of things… as long as  you don’t mind your face puffing up and your bones melting.

  67. 67.

    Mike in NC

    March 16, 2022 at 9:31 pm

    @Splitting Image: Had not thought of them in 30 years.

  68. 68.

    White & Gold Purgatorian

    March 16, 2022 at 9:32 pm

    I just watched the subtitled speech by Putin and it reads to me like he’s declaring war on the oligarchy, preparing to blame those with a villa in Miami, etc. for Russia’s impending failure in his war.  Maybe also a shot across the bow should any of them be considering arranging a little accident …

  69. 69.

    Splitting Image

    March 16, 2022 at 9:32 pm

    @Sebastian:

    If I am assessing the situation correctly (FWIW), then we are going to see dramatic results in a very short time.

    I think that “Slowly, then very suddenly” is baked into the pie at this point. The only variables are how long it will be before we hit the “Suddenly” stage and how many people are killed before that happens.

    I go back and forth between optimism and pessimism on this.

  70. 70.

    Keith P.

    March 16, 2022 at 9:33 pm

    @SpaceUnit:  That Fourth of July trip to Moscow by a contingent of Republican office-holders.

    How in THE FUCK did this not end up being made into a bigger deal?  Just the optics alone (on the 4th of July?!??!!  Nothing going on stateside?  With constituents?)

  71. 71.

    SpaceUnit

    March 16, 2022 at 9:33 pm

    @brendancalling:

    I never won a thread before.  Hooray for me!

    I’ll take my winnings in cash, please.

  72. 72.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 16, 2022 at 9:35 pm

    @Sebastian: And blowing up ammo is a good way to put artillery of commission.  You don’t have to destroy the guns, just deny them the ability to shoot.

  73. 73.

    Calouste

    March 16, 2022 at 9:35 pm

    @Sebastian: I’ve been wondering about those Russian generals that have been killed. Were they taken out by snipers, who presumably after they got their shot in got the hell out of dodge? Or were they taken out by drones or missiles, with presumably some of their staff as additional casualties? The latter makes it harder to keep the whole division running.

  74. 74.

    opiejeanne

    March 16, 2022 at 9:35 pm

    @White & Gold Purgatorian: If he’s been on steroids for any reason, that could explain the moon-face. A friend who was being treated for cancer in the 1980s was put on steroids because the drugs were so hard on her, so that she could stand to eat. Now, I don’t know if that is a treatment that has been dropped since then, but someone mentioned today that Putin has cancer.

    The shaking makes me think he’s got Parkinson’s.

  75. 75.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 16, 2022 at 9:35 pm

    @Cameron:

    I believe I can help.

    I am the very model of a modern Major-General
    I’ve information vegetable, animal, and mineral
    I know the kings of England, and I quote the fights historical
    From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical
    I’m very well acquainted, too, with matters
    mathematical
    I understand equations, both the simple and quadratical
    About binomial theorem I’m teeming with a lot o’ news
    With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse
    With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse
    With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse
    With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotepoteneuse
    I’m very good at integral and differential calculus
    I know the scientific names of beings animalculous
    In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral
    I am the very model of a modern Major-General
    In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral
    He is the very model of a modern Major-General

    I know our mythic history, King Arthur’s and Sir Caradoc’s
    I answer hard acrostics, I’ve a pretty taste for paradox
    I quote in elegiacs all the crimes of Heliogabalus
    In conics I can floor peculiarities parabolous
    I can tell undoubted Raphaels from Gerard Dows and Zoffanies
    I know the croaking chorus from the Frogs of
    Aristophanes
    Then I can hum a fugue of which I’ve heard the music’s din afore
    And whistle all the airs from that infernal nonsense Pinafore
    And whistle all the airs from that infernal nonsense Pinafore
    And whistle all the airs from that infernal nonsense Pinafore
    And whistle all the airs from that infernal nonsense Pinapinafore
    Then I can write a washing bill in Babylonic cuneiform
    And tell you ev’ry detail of Caractacus’s uniform
    In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral
    I am the very model of a modern Major-General
    In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral
    He is the very model of a modern Major-General

    In fact, when I know what is meant by “mamelon” and “ravelin”
    When I can tell at sight a Mauser rifle from a javelin
    When such affairs as sorties and surprises I’m more wary at
    And when I know precisely what is meant by
    “Commissariat”
    When I have learnt what progress has been made in modern gunnery
    When I know more of tactics than a novice in a nunnery
    In short, when I’ve a smattering of elemental strategy
    You’ll say a better Major-General had never sat a gee
    You’ll say a better Major-General had never sat a gee
    You’ll say a better Major-General had never sat a gee
    You’ll say a better Major-General had never sat a sat a gee
    For my military knowledge, though I’m plucky and adventury
    Has only been brought down to the beginning of the century
    But still, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral
    I am the very model of a modern Major-General
    But still, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral
    He is the very model of a modern Major-General

    I love G&S parodies! Can’t wait to see yours!

  76. 76.

    SpaceUnit

    March 16, 2022 at 9:36 pm

    @Keith P.:

    I know, right?

    By election day every voter should see Putin as head of the Republican Party.  Chuck Todd won’t like it but fuck him.

  77. 77.

    SpaceUnit

    March 16, 2022 at 9:37 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    That’s enough singing.

  78. 78.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 16, 2022 at 9:37 pm

    @SpaceUnit: All prizes are payable in Russian cryptocurrency.

  79. 79.

    Cameron

    March 16, 2022 at 9:38 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Thank you.  I have my work cut out for me.

  80. 80.

    bbleh

    March 16, 2022 at 9:39 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: Plus, a clever Ukrainian psy-ops operation convinced enough Russians that a 5-kopeck coin was close enough to a dime to fool the machines, but not!

    And then the toll-lady comes out, and oh boy …

  81. 81.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 16, 2022 at 9:39 pm

    @SpaceUnit:

    Never enough!

  82. 82.

    realbtl

    March 16, 2022 at 9:41 pm

    One of the side effects of prednisone is reduced immunity.  Might explain the huge table.

  83. 83.

    Gin & Tonic

    March 16, 2022 at 9:41 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I knew you’d come through (sorry, was away for a bit reading this WSJ article about Russians getting their asses kicked in a small town in the south.)

    Key graf:

    “Everyone is united against the common enemy,” said Voznesensk’s 32-year-old mayor, Yevheni Velichko, a former real-estate developer turned wartime commander, who, like other local officials, moves around with a gun. “We are defending our own land. We are at home.”

  84. 84.

    SpaceUnit

    March 16, 2022 at 9:42 pm

    @Suzanne:

    They are apparently impervious to shame.

  85. 85.

    cain

    March 16, 2022 at 9:44 pm

    @SpaceUnit: For some reason, I keep thinking this would be the kind of jokes that Zelensky would say on late night TV or hosting Saturday Night Live.

  86. 86.

    White & Gold Purgatorian

    March 16, 2022 at 9:46 pm

    @opiejeanne:  Well, he’s clearly not right. Steroids are used to treat a lot of conditions, but they generally are not a cure for anything, and as others have pointed out, the long term side effects are pretty bad. About 35 years ago one of our cats was very sick. The vet, who admitted not knowing the root cause of his illness, gave him steroids. He said this wouldn’t cure him, but would make him think he was better. And it seemed to, up until he suddenly died.

    Edited to add: The cat died from sudden GI bleeding which, it turns out, is a not unusual side effect of prednisone.

  87. 87.

    Gin & Tonic

    March 16, 2022 at 9:47 pm

    This is important to remember. The bomb on the theater in Mariupol, where women and children were hiding, was dropped not by Putin himself, but by an ordinary Russian. Ordinary Russian who knew that the order was criminal and still did it.#RussianWarCrimes— Oleksandra Matviichuk (@avalaina) March 16, 2022

    The word “children,” in Russian, was written in large white letters on the ground both in front of and behind the theater.

  88. 88.

    delk

    March 16, 2022 at 9:48 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: hydrocortisone did it to me.

  89. 89.

    sanjeevs

    March 16, 2022 at 9:48 pm

    @White & Gold Purgatorian: I thought Putin was attacking the oligarchs too.

    Kamil Galeev had previously mentioned that Russian purges are sometimes driven by economic reversals. Instead of rightsizing, they purge.

  90. 90.

    West of the Rockies

    March 16, 2022 at 9:50 pm

    @Suzanne:

    I earnestly believe that Democrats have the ability to be embarrassed and the ability to turn on their own (John Edwards, for instance).

    I don’t think Republicans are built the same way.  The biggest lot of them double, triple, quadruple down, deny, lie, sputter whataboutisms, and carry on the collective circle jerk.

  91. 91.

    HumboldtBlue

    March 16, 2022 at 9:50 pm

    Russians don’t seem as eager about this invasion as Putin is.

    Russia’s state TV hit by stream of resignations

  92. 92.

    Ms. Deranged in AZ

    March 16, 2022 at 9:52 pm

    Way back in college in the late ’80s I was in Army ROTC and it was assumed that the next war we fought would be against the  Russians.They emphasized that the best way to defeat the Russian army was to take out their officers. The thinking was that they did not prepare their soldiers to think creatively and adjust to circumstances as well as American soldiers, and the military culture did not reward soldiers who took initiative.   They also did not cross train to the degree that we did.  So if you take out their officers it weakened them, whereas with American troops if you take out an officer they simply adjust taking on the officer’s duties.   Looks like the ukrainians were paying attention, but of course they would have been since they knew there was a high probability they would face the Russian army someday. I never actively served, but those lessons are coming back me to now.

  93. 93.

    Cameron

    March 16, 2022 at 9:54 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Absolutely.  Putin may be directing traffic, but he’s not on the scene ordering these horrors.  If Fortune smiles (which it usually doesn’t), there will be a very full docket in the Hague for years to come.

  94. 94.

    SpaceUnit

    March 16, 2022 at 9:55 pm

    @cain:

    You know, Zelensky hosting SNL would be seriously awesome.  Great idea.

    Let’s all hope he gets the chance.

  95. 95.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    March 16, 2022 at 9:56 pm

    @Sebastian: I hope you’re right about the artillery.

    By the way, I owe you thanks for the link to saintjavelin.com.

    Here’s my brand new T-shirt.

  96. 96.

    Mike in NC

    March 16, 2022 at 9:57 pm

    @Calouste: The Russian airborne general killed by a sniper deserved it just because of his silly fur hat.

  97. 97.

    White & Gold Purgatorian

    March 16, 2022 at 10:00 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    The word “children,” in Russian, was written in large white letters on the ground both in front of and behind the theater.

    This was pointed out on the evening news. Unconscionable. And the “poor targeting ability” excuse for hitting all these civilian targets is just not credible day after day. It is deliberate murder and Biden was right to call Putin a war criminal. His reputation can never be cleansed of this blood.

  98. 98.

    Kalakal

    March 16, 2022 at 10:00 pm

     

    @Gin & Tonic:  I’ll bet she’s right. Moon face is the classic symptom of long term prednisone use. One of the common conditions people are put on it for is Irritable Bowel Disease.

    Irritatable Bowel is a good description of Putin

  99. 99.

    Sebastian

    March 16, 2022 at 10:01 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    you are welcome. My shirts and hoodie arrived yesterday

  100. 100.

    NotMax

    March 16, 2022 at 10:02 pm

    OT.

    Noting the death at just shy of 85 of Bernie Nussbaum (WaPo link – NYT link). Senior counsel to the House Judiciary Committee investigating Watergate, later brought back from private practice to be White House counsel for Clinton.

    Knew him personally, not professionally. One tough cookie. Controversial but never less than meticulous and honorable.

  101. 101.

    Jeffro

    March 16, 2022 at 10:04 pm

    @E.: why it almost sounds familiar, from a domestic perspective, doesn’t it?

    This country needs a primer in Fascism 101, stat.

  102. 102.

    Sebastian

    March 16, 2022 at 10:04 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Yeah, the rag tag Russian army will get a lesson in 21st century warfare. This is like line infantry vs tanks.

  103. 103.

    Jeffro

    March 16, 2022 at 10:06 pm

    @Kalakal:I would love to see an ‘accidental’ release  of Putrid’s files on Drumpf.

    I can see the next speech including a line or three about having previously owned an American president*.  I’m here for that  ;)

  104. 104.

    Sebastian

    March 16, 2022 at 10:07 pm

    @Splitting Image:

    Same here to be honest. Talking about the back and forth. Something’s gotta give and give soon.

  105. 105.

    Jeffro

    March 16, 2022 at 10:08 pm

    @SpaceUnit:

    to hell with unity.  Dems need to tie this Russian shitshow around the Republican Party’s neck and strangle it to death.

    Trump’s cozy, off-the-record meeting with Putin.  All those Russian wise guys hanging around Trump and Rudy G.  That Fourth of July trip to Moscow by a contingent of Republican office-holders.  Russian influence in the NRA.  Withholding Military aid to Ukraine for political leverage.  Etc., etc.

    Screw unity.

    I am seriously, SERIOUSLY, hoping that this is in the cards.  Every GOP Senator who voted to acquit trumpov the first time, when he tried to extort Zelenskyy’s support for fabricated anti-Biden investigations in exchange for taxpayer-paid-for and Congress-approved defensive weaponry?  STFU.  Beat them absolutely to electoral death with it.

  106. 106.

    NotMax

    March 16, 2022 at 10:08 pm

    @NotMax

    Report from Mom (who attended the funeral today) that she ended up seated next to, of all people, George Conway.

  107. 107.

    Steeplejack

    March 16, 2022 at 10:10 pm

    @bbleh:

    Texas, “In Demand.”

  108. 108.

    J R in WV

    March 16, 2022 at 10:12 pm

    July 4th Cult?

    July 4th  Conspiracy?

    July 4th Cabal?

    Help me out here…

  109. 109.

    Steeplejack

    March 16, 2022 at 10:14 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    They should have planned ahead and gotten E-ZPass Motherland Z-Pass.

  110. 110.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 16, 2022 at 10:15 pm

    @NotMax: huh… does that put you within six degrees of separation from The Beast itself?

    You, Mother NotMax, Conway, his awful wife…

  111. 111.

    NotMax

    March 16, 2022 at 10:18 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist

    I’d much prefer Kevin Bacon.

    ;)

    (Whackaloon wifey was not there, AFAIK.)

  112. 112.

    zhena gogolia

    March 16, 2022 at 10:22 pm

    @NotMax: Wow. There were several tributes to him in the tiny obituaries in the NYT today.

  113. 113.

    zhena gogolia

    March 16, 2022 at 10:23 pm

    @NotMax: I first read that as George Clooney! Hence my “wow.” George Conway, not so much.

  114. 114.

    NotMax

    March 16, 2022 at 10:24 pm

    @zhena gogolia

    If only…

    :)

  115. 115.

    SpaceUnit

    March 16, 2022 at 10:33 pm

    @J R in WV:

    In 2018 a group of eight Republican senators and congressional reps inexplicably flew to Russia on July 4th, hoping to meet with Putin in Moscow.  They were unable to meet with the Russian president (supposedly) but spent a good deal of time posing for photographs with other top Russian officials.  They were:

    Richard Shelby – AL

    Steve Daines – MT

    John Hoeven – ND

    John Kennedy – LA

    Jerry Moran – KS

    John Thune – SD

    Ron Johnson – WS

    Kay Granger – TX

    Draw what conclusions you will.  Our corporate media mostly yawned.  My own guess is that they were groveling for Kremlin support and favor, auditioning to be the next Trump.

  116. 116.

    evodevo

    March 16, 2022 at 10:45 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Yep…steroids will do that to you especially over a long term…

  117. 117.

    Bill Arnold

    March 16, 2022 at 10:51 pm

    @burnspbesq: ​

    I wonder what the succession plan is if he should pop a brain aneurysm.

    “Heart attack” is more traditional in Russia.
    (The US uses insanity. It is said. :-)
    Oh, that was a question. No clue. Whoever it would be could make a big political career of cleaning house, though. A botched war that seriously damages Russia might focus them on internal Russian cleanup.

  118. 118.

    opiejeanne

    March 16, 2022 at 10:52 pm

    @White & Gold Purgatorian: Oh God,  poor kitty.

    I finished up a 5 day prescription of Prednisone last week for temporal arteritis, and inflamed artery in my temple. 5 days was brutal for my blood sugar levels, so the doc had me take metformin for a couple of days, which got my blood sugar under control and made me terribly sick.

    I hope I never have to take that stuff again.

  119. 119.

    NotMax

    March 16, 2022 at 10:55 pm

    @zhena gogolia

    Have told it before here: the tale of the anonymous lady and Watergate.

    Bernie was dispatched to NYC by the committee to retrieve relevant financial records. Which were on reels of computer tape.

    On returning to the airport later that same night, discovered the luggage they’d been packed in (presumably by the bank) was too large to be accepted as carry on, and he wasn’t about to let the data out of his sight for so much as one second.

    Airport shops closed; what to do, what to do?

    Bernie spotted a bag lady and asked if she’d be willing to sell him one of her bags. Slipped her some bills (and, IIRC, the bank’s valise), manged to stuff the computer reels into the shopping bag and carried it onto the plane.

  120. 120.

    opiejeanne

    March 16, 2022 at 11:06 pm

    @NotMax: I missed that story when you told it before, so I’m glad you posted it here. Great story.

  121. 121.

    JAFD

    March 17, 2022 at 12:26 am

    @SiubhanDuinne: I assume you’re familiar with “The Wargame Dealers’ Song” from the musical Mik Ado About Nothing or, Back to Rivets by Sue Anderson and Mark M. Keller.  If not, see

    http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?935556

    or

    http://data.nesfa.org/press/Books/KellerAnderson.html

    Unfortunately, can’t dredge up enuf of lyrics from memory to be helpful.  Sorry

  122. 122.

    Uncle Cosmo

    March 17, 2022 at 10:13 am

    @SpaceUnit: Chuck Todd won’t like it but fuck him.

    We need Choke Toad in the past tense: Choked Toad. Preferably live on camera. Classic example of a numnutz who parlayed marginal competence in one area (voting data analysis) into a career as Mr Knowitfuckingall…

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