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We cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation.

They want us to be overwhelmed and exhausted. Focus. Resist. Oppose.

Putting aside our relentless self-interest because the moral imperative is crystal clear.

After dobbs, women are no longer free.

The most dangerous place for a black man in America is in a white man’s imagination.

You passed on an opportunity to be offended? What are you even doing here?

Accountability, motherfuckers.

No offense, but this thread hasn’t been about you for quite a while.

Roe is not about choice. It is about freedom.

So it was an October Surprise A Day, like an Advent calendar but for crime.

You’re just a puppy masquerading as an old coot.

Marge, god is saying you’re stupid.

The worst democrat is better than the best republican.

If you still can’t see these things even now, maybe politics isn’t your forte and you should stop writing about it.

Black Jesus loves a paper trail.

I would try pessimism, but it probably wouldn’t work.

How any woman could possibly vote for this smug smarmy piece of misogynistic crap is beyond understanding.

Trumpflation is an intolerable hardship for every American, and it’s Trump’s fault.

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Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson Hearings

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Here’s a live-stream on YouTube:

I wish I had time to watch! When I was snagging the code to embed this (which I hope doesn’t wreck WordPress — it’s not a tweet!), Senator Grassley was rambling on about how when he was a boy, rich people zoomed through the sky in zeppelins and dropped coins on people below and how the family always roasted walking birds on Thanksgiving.*

Anyhoo, Judge Brown Jackson had an attentive and patient expression as she listened to the gormless old fool harrumph cluelessly. The Senate is about to test her ability to hold that expression in the face of numerous inanities and hostile attacks.

From what I’ve read, I believe she will be a great Supreme Court justice. Also, she grew up in Florida, so an Associate Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson would be evidence that not everything to emerge from this accursed peninsula is a pox on the nation. :)

*Those weren’t his exact words, but the above snippet is faithful to the spirit of the remarks I heard.

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  1. 1.

    The Moar You Know

    Those weren’t his exact words

    Pretty sure they were.  Would support a mandatory retirement age for anyone in government.

  2. 2.

    geg6

    OT, but I am happy today at work.  The campus therapy dog is here for the day and that always makes the day a good one.  Plus, sweet Duncan always comes to see me before she goes to work on therapy dog day.  She has done that from the day she first came.  For some reason, she loves me.  As I do her.
    And fuck these stupid GQPers.  I’m so sick of them.  I hope Judge Brown Jackson is better at hiding her disgust than I am.​

  6. 6.

    bluegirlfromwyo

    Republicans: those who think Mr. Potter was the hero in It’s A Wonderful Life. If only he’d just been understood enough.

  7. 7.

    The Moar You Know

    Such a double standard.  She’s supposed to just sit there and take days of lunatic attacks, never call them out on their bullshit, and treat them as legitimate.  Boof gets to yell at everyone when he gets rightfully called out as a rapey alcoholic.  I watched his fucking hearings.  That’s all he did.  Yell at everyone.

  8. 8.

    GoBlueInOak

    @The Moar You Know: Chuck Grassley will be 89 on Election Day & is seeking another 6 year term.   He’s been in elective office since 1959.

    We most definitely need a mandatory retirement age for government.

  10. 10.

    Baud

    @GoBlueInOak:

    I could actually support that over term limits or the cynical ‘boomers suck except for boomers I like” theory that I occasionally see out there.

  14. 14.

    bjacques

    I’m gonna cut to the chase. If Manchin or Sinema gets cute and the Republicans predictably vote no, Can Schumer call a recess so Biden can make a recess appointment? 33 Senators will be wanting to hit the road anyway to campaign, so it ought to be possible.

  15. 15.

    Geminid

    I really like it that Judge Brown served 8 years as a U.S. District Court Judge in Washington  D.C. In addition to the usual federal court matters, judges in that district try most serious crimes.

    Except for Justice Justice Sotomayor, other Justices lack this experience in the nitty-gritty world of trials. I think Sotomayor’s trial experience made her a superior jurist.

  17. 17.

    Brachiator

    @bluegirlfromwyo:

    Republicans: those who think Mr. Potter was the hero in It’s A Wonderful Life. If only he’d just been understood enough.

    Oddly enough, Potter is never punished for his actions or is shown having a change of heart.

    Given the religious themes of the movie, I like to think that later he burned in Hell.

    ETA: I guess the Supreme Court hearings today are all preliminary speeches.

  18. 18.

    different-church-lady

    @bluegirlfromwyo:

    Republicans: those who think Mr. Potter was the hero in It’s A Wonderful Life. If only he’d just been understood enough more ruthless.

  20. 20.

    Geminid

    @GoBlueInOak: Some in Iowa believe that Grassley intends to win election and resign some time afterwards. Then the Republican Governor might appoint his grandson, a state legislator, to that seat.

  23. 23.

    Alison Rose ???

    @The Moar You Know: Yeah, it’s absolutely enraging, isn’t it? So nice to be a white dude…

    In other news, I watched Hamilton again last night, which means I’ll be singing the songs for the next week, so apologies to my cat and lucky break for my coworkers that I’m remote and it won’t be inflicted on them for 9 hours a day.

    (I…do not have a good singing voice. To put it mildly.)

  25. 25.

    different-church-lady

    @Brachiator:

    Oddly enough, Potter is never punished for his actions or is shown having a change of heart.

    One of my all time favorite SNL skits is the “deleted scene discovered”, in which Uncle Billy remembers where he left the money and they all go to Potter’s office and kick the crap out of him

     

    @Brachiator:

  26. 26.

    Brachiator

    Supreme Court History Tidbit.

    The first Jewish person to become a Supreme Court Justice was Louis Brandeis, in 1916. His nomination was hotly contested because he was perceived to be too “radical.” And too Jewish.

    In order to deal with his nomination, a new Senate procedure was created.

    The controversy surrounding Brandeis’s nomination was so great that the Senate Judiciary Committee, for the first time in its history, held a public hearing on the nomination, allowing witnesses to appear before the committee and offer testimony both in support of and in opposition to Brandeis’s confirmation. While previous nominees to the Supreme Court had been confirmed or rejected by a simple up-or-down vote on the Senate floor, often on the same day on which the President had sent the nomination to the Senate, a then-unprecedented four months lapsed between Wilson’s nomination of Brandeis and the Senate’s final confirmation vote.

  29. 29.

    Baud

    @Raven:

    Whitehouse has been really really strong on the Supreme Court for a long time now.  But he’s not a big Twitter presence so he doesn’t get recognized as much.

  30. 30.

    Soprano2

    @GoBlueInOak: There are people who think if he wins he’s going to resign and have the Iowa governor appoint his son grandson to the seat. That would be my bet, that he doesn’t actually plan to serve for 6 more years.

    ETA correction by Geminid above, because I thought it was his son. The rest still stands.

  34. 34.

    Baud

    For the ninth time this year, Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse gave a speech this week blasting right-wing anonymous donors whom he believes have “captured” the Supreme Court and “built” its current 6-3 conservative majority.

    “Our Supreme Court is awash in dark money influence,” the Rhode Island Democrat said on the Senate floor on Tuesday. “The American people may not be able to see all of the rot, but they can see enough to know that something is rotten over there across First Street at that court.”

  38. 38.

    hueyplong

    @Baud:  “Dang.  They didn’t even change Senate procedure after Dred Scott.  But appoint a Jew and everybody loses their mind.”

     

    Felt a little like a Dark Knight riff.

  48. 48.

    Winston

    But she does not appear to have any experience in Beer Boofing or Boofing Beer or Black out drinking. Things L.Graham thinks importmant.

  49. 49.

    Kent

    @bjacques:I’m gonna cut to the chase. If Manchin or Sinema gets cute and the Republicans predictably vote no, Can Schumer call a recess so Biden can make a recess appointment? 33 Senators will be wanting to hit the road anyway to campaign, so it ought to be possible.

    Stop the hand-wringing.  Neither of them have shown any indication they are opposed to her nomination.  And both confirmed her last time she was in front of the Senate.

    I think the bigger question is whether some Senate so-called moderates like Murkowski, Collins and Romney are going to confirm and/or what sort of complete bullshit lies they will have to come up with to vote against.

  50. 50.

    Kay

    COLUMBIA, Mo. (AP) — Ex-wife accuses Missouri GOP Senate candidate Eric Greitens of physical abuse in affidavit made public Monday.

    It’ll make him more popular with the Trump base. He probably released it. I don’t think there’s any bigger difference between the candidates in the two parties as Republicans embrace of domestic violence and sexual harrassment. It’s pretty amazing. In one party it’ll get you thrown out on your ass and in the other it’s not just accepted but seems to be admired. Extraordinary. Yawning gap.

  51. 51.

    Kent

    @Ked:Wow, I’ve been out of the loop.  Who is she (potentially) replacing?

    Yes you are out of the loop.  Breyer announced his retirement 2 months ago.

  54. 54.

    Betty Cracker

    @Baud: He’s no Katy Perry, but Whitehouse has a fairly strong Twitter game and more than half a million followers, which I think isn’t too bad for a politician who hasn’t run for president. Here’s his latest:

  56. 56.

    Brachiator

    @germy:

    He’s complaining about what happened to poor Mr. Bork.

    The Republicans don’t just nurse a grudge, they raise it, send it to school and let it live in the basement and spend time on the Internet reading conspiracy theories.

  59. 59.

    Kropacetic

    @Brachiator: The Republicans don’t just nurse a grudge, they raise it, send it to school and let it live in the basement and spend time on the Internet reading conspiracy theories.

    School? Those leftist indoctrination camps? They home school the grudge.

  60. 60.

    eclare

    @Geminid:   Ain’t that the truth.  I remember seeing him on The Daily Show years ago.  He was personable, funny, he and Trevor played a game of pool, which Lindsey won handily.  Then TFG won…

  62. 62.

    Winston

     

     

    @Geminid: no moral ballast and blows with the wind.

    Pretty much the definition of an asshole. And whiney to boot. H/T  pb3550

    As is the Canadian/Cuban Cancun refugee.

  64. 64.

    hueyplong

    @Geminid: Graham would be the main character in an It’s A Wonderful Life remake in which George sees how much better the world would have been if he hadn’t been born.  Clarence gets no wings.

  65. 65.

    Anonymous At Work

    What’s the running count of questions with a subtext of “Why aren’t you white” and “Why don’t you have a PEN15?”

  66. 66.

    Kropacetic

    @Anonymous At Work: What’s the running count of questions with a subtext of “Why aren’t you white” and “Why don’t you have a PEN15?”

    From the Republican side? All of ’em Katie.  Not watching, just know the level these people operate on.

  68. 68.

    Bupalos

    @Anonymous At Work: Just speeches so far. The crux of them from the GQP up through Cruz (when I became physically sick and shut it off) is just stuff saying how important the SC is now that Dems are trying to snatch guns, eat babies, and destroy the world. That it must remain pure to keep us all pure.

  69. 69.

    James E Powell

    @Brachiator:

    Oddly enough, Potter is never punished for his actions or is shown having a change of heart.

    He also keeps the money that Uncle Billy lost.

  71. 71.

    bluegirlfromwyo

    @hueyplong: That’s more like it. Modern GOPers aren’t even asking us to understand Mr Potter. They’re demanding that we simply do what he says.

    Disagree. They want us to do what they say and appreciate them for doing so. Half of what you hear from those idiot diner interviews is that poor conservatives aren’t respected or understood anymore, and they’re entitled to be forever and always. Especially when they do things that aren’t understandable or respectable.

  72. 72.

    sdhays

    @James E Powell: It’s been a few years since I saw it, but didn’t Uncle Billy literally “give” it to him?

    When you literally shove the cash into someone’s hands, you don’t have much legal recourse. Of course, any ethical person wouldn’t simply look at the situation from a legalistic viewpoint and give the money back. But if Potter was a half-way decent person, the altercation probably wouldn’t have happened in the first place.

  73. 73.

    Gin & Tonic

    The average age of the first 5 senators to make statements at Ketanji Brown Jackson’s confirmation hearing is 80
    — Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 21, 2022

  75. 75.

    Winston

    Hawley setting the stage for refuting what AGraham and Cancunkid promised they would not do. She’s for child porn! So you know this guy is a projectionist so we should start to investigate him. eta

  77. 77.

    Anonymous At Work

    @Bupalos: So I’m seeing 100% on subtext but being directed at their base only, dog-whistle-style.  No actual questions as such but lots of bloviating for Fox News to rebroadcast.

    I’d be a horrible Senator because I’d straight up ask her those questions as a way to get it out in the open.  “My colleagues seem to want to ask you these questions…”

  78. 78.

    Geoduck

    Re: Potter’s lack of punishment. I guess Capra and the other producers thought about including a scene where he gets some, including one idea where he approaches George’s house, hears everyone celebrating inside, and just slinks away, knowing that everyone hates him and he will die unloved and forgotten. But in the end they didn’t include anything.

  79. 79.

    bjacques

    @Kent: I don’t know abut hand-wringing, but, okay, a bit early to get cynical. I was thinking of Sarah Raskin Bloom, the Fed Chair nominee who Manchin was mouthing off about.

    Damn, Sen. Hawley is a nasty piece of work.

  80. 80.

    Betty Cracker

    @Baud: He seems like he’d make a fine POTUS because he understands the extent to which dark money is destroying our democracy, plus we could talk about the Whitehouse White House as an added bonus! ;-)

  82. 82.

    Soprano2

    @Kay: Yep, he’ll probably get a bump. He’ll just deny it, and all the MAGA’s will mindlessly believe him

    One of my financial advisers (who is good, and is a good guy, and no I’m not going to fire him) was on Grieten’s election staff, I think perhaps as treasurer. To be fair, Greitens had a lot of people fooled as an ex-Seal with a charity that helped veterans. Shoot, I saw him on Colbert’s show and I was fooled – I thought he sounded like an interesting, worthwhile person even if he was a Republican. Adviser used to have a picture of himself and his wife with Greitens and his wife at the inaugural ball; it disappeared from his office after Greitens resigned.

  83. 83.

    hueyplong

    @Geoduck: Capra’s production company (Liberty?) failed when the movie bombed in theatres, so we’ll never know whether he might have planned a sequel in which the Potter character gets a comeuppance

    ETA: Actually, this is the kind of place at which someone might well know.

  84. 84.

    Anonymous At Work

    @Betty Cracker: I’ve thought he and SPW (Senator-Professor Warren) should be Senators-for-Life from their respective states.  Much more good they can do there with hearings.  If you got a subpoena to testify under oath in front of SPW, the subpoena needs to include the option of Seppuku.

  85. 85.

    Brachiator

    @sdhays:

    When you literally shove the cash into someone’s hands, you don’t have much legal recourse.

    I think he gave him the newspaper, and forgot that the cash was in it. But he did not intend to give him the cash itself.

    But this may still have created a problem.

  88. 88.

    sdhays

    @Brachiator: Yeah, that’s what I recall. He still put the cash in Potters’ hands, and while IANAL, Potter has the cash to buy very good ones, so it’s hard for me to imagine that Potter would be even obligated to return the money after a trial, let alone face any legal consequences.

  89. 89.

    Kay

    David Weigel
    @daveweigel
    ·4h
    During the Barrett hearings, Josh Hawley suggested that asking a Catholic nominee about Griswold was religious bigotry. (KBJ is a Protestant so we’re in the clear.)

    Just ridiculous, and completely accepted in these hearings.

  91. 91.

    UncleEbeneezer

    Since this is OT:

    Finally watched Coda. It was good, moving, funny and sweet. It had some good acting performances. But at times really felt like a made-for-tv movie or an after-school special. It had a lot of only-in-a-movie moments and stuff that just didn’t make sense.  [MILD SPOILERS AHEAD]

    Like, they are JUST NOW finding out that they had to have a hearing person on their fishing boat in order to legally operate as a business? That never came up when they had to renew their fishing license? Who schedules an interview with the local news but doesn’t tell their interpreter to be available? What public school (with a student from a deaf family) wouldn’t think to have somebody ready to do ASL for her vocal performance? Why wasn’t she signing while singing? (knowing her family was watching). Etc. Also the whole out-of-touch govt regulators who just don’t understand the small business owners trope was a bit gag-inducing to see for the billionth time.

    Also, everyone knows that when practicing a duet with someone you are very attracted to, you don’t look into each others’ eyes (way too creepy) or stand back-to-back (makes nods and other signals like “go to the chorus” etc. very challenging).  The proper protocol is to sit next to each other or on different chairs and stare blankly at some random point in the distance or on the wall/floor. Ideally, even your lines of sight don’t touch!

    All in all, it’s the kind of sweet movie that Hollywood loves and will probably win some awards, but I didn’t think it was anywhere near as good as Passing, King Richard and to a lesser extent, Power of the Dog.  And for a movie about the world of deafness, Sound of Metal was much better, imo. Also, having grown up only a stone’s throw from Gloucester, I found it bizarre that NOBODY had thick, Boston accents.

  92. 92.

    different-church-lady

    @sdhays: I rather think the entire point in the film was that Potter had no ethics.

     

    @Brachiator:

    The Republicans don’t just nurse a grudge, they raise it, send it to school and let it live in the basement and spend time on the Internet reading conspiracy theories insist it is the rightful heir to the throne.

  93. 93.

    Ruckus

    @Bupalos:

    That it must remain pure to keep us all pure.

    Their side is pure. Pure shit. They like that, no one to tell them they are shit, and make it stick.

  94. 94.

    different-church-lady

    Covie

    @covie_93

    ·
    23h

    Don’t know much about what will happen during Judge Jackson’s confirmation but I’m sure she won’t cry and tell us she loves beer.

  95. 95.

    JaySinWa

    @The Moar You Know:Such a double standard.  She’s supposed to just sit there and take days of lunatic attacks, never call them out on their bullshit, and treat them as legitimate.

    It would be interesting to see a post nomination hearing opinion or dissenting opinion by the nominee.

  98. 98.

    Ruckus

    @Gin & Tonic:

    I don’t mind old people, likely because I am one, but the vast majority that I know are so set in their ways they can’t find a different route to the store, or change the weekly menu. There is no growth of any kind, mind or body. Now some do better than others as they age, I still walk 2 miles a day. It’s the same 2 miles because it’s interesting but still…. And Joe Biden does pretty good for an old fart. But there is a limit to what most people can do as they age up, especially as they get into their ninth decade. (That’s 80 yrs old. I’m 1/4 through my eighth decade.) What this diatribe is about is that there should be an age limit. It takes a while for some to learn the things an adult should know, humility, how to live, how not to live, how to insure that others get to live, how to insure that others are restricted from restricting others from living, how not to be a greedy fuck, how not to demand that everyone be as crappy at life as they are, IOW basic respect for differences. They should also learn that gender does not make or break one from being an adult, unless they make gender a negative. Same goes for skin color. An ability to recognize mistakes and learn from them is important. And possibly the most important, to learn that no one is infallible or correct 100% of the time but that there are limits to how incorrect one can be. And to understand that there may be more to being a fucking adult than being a spoiled brat. As in there absolutely is.

  99. 99.

    geg6

    @Soprano2:

    I’m sure you have your reasons, but I’d fire him.  There is no way I could trust him and, in my experience, every single person who supports a GQPer is an idiot.  No exceptions.

  100. 100.

    geg6

    @Geoduck:

    I despise that stupid movie so much.  And I’m generally a Jimmy Stewart fan.  I can’t believe I’m reading a discussion of it in March.  Bad enough I have to hear about it in December.

  106. 106.

    zhena gogolia

    @different-church-lady: I have to admit I have never made it through the whole thing once. And I’m also a J. Stewart fan. I sometimes think he’s the greatest screen actor who ever lived. Like when I’m watching him in Shop Around the Corner or Vertigo.

  107. 107.

    different-church-lady

    @Ruckus: It was alarming when I realized I couldn’t stand up without grunting.

    Last night I realized I couldn’t sit down without.

  109. 109.

    Another Scott

    @geg6: I like it.  A lot.

    Now, sappy movies I can’t stand are just about anything from Spielberg.  Especially with a John Williams soundtrack.  Makes my skin crawl, it does.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  110. 110.

    different-church-lady

    @zhena gogolia: Thinking about it, the thing doesn’t really take off until the second half, when George is confronting the horror of a Potterville without his existence. Before that it’s pretty deadly in its measured earnestness.

    Plus it has one of the all time great character-actor quotes: “Hey look, mister – we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don’t need any characters around to give the joint “atmosphere”.

  111. 111.

    Winston

    “does not mean what is doesn’t say” is an illogical contrasting to what “does not mean  what it does say”. Therefor Tom Cotton is illogical.

  115. 115.

    geg6

    @Another Scott:

    All I have to say to that is that the box office begs to differ.  They hated that idiotic Capra movie and love Spielberg.  I’m not a huge Spielberg fan, but he has a lot of great films, much like Capra.  But at least Spielberg’s biggest dog of a film, 1942, is funny and intermittently entertaining.  There is nothing good about It’s a Wonderful Life.  Bad acting, bad script, bad everything.

  116. 116.

    Geoduck

    @different-church-lady: From the same character: “Look at me! I’m givin’ out wings!” It’s not my favorite movie ever, but I like it OK.

    For any Jimmy Stewart fans out there, you might want to check out After The Thin Man, where a young JS plays a very different sort of role than he came to be known for.

  117. 117.

    hueyplong

    @zhena gogolia: Personal taste is personal.  My daughter spits and develops a speech impediment when she talks about how much she hates Vertigo.  She hates Jimmy Stewart too.

  118. 118.

    Miss Bianca

    @geg6: @different-church-lady: I don’t dislike it. But man, is it dark. I mean, seriously dark. And twisted.

    Although I always crack up when I realize that Mary Bailey’s awful fate in Potterville is that she *gasp* becomes a librarian. Oh, the horror!

  119. 119.

    Winston

    Watched Black Crab on Netflix.  it’s a dystopian WWIII with great cgi, not clear where in the world it occurs. But I liked it. The lead actress is fantastic and deadly.

  121. 121.

    Miss Bianca

    @sheila in nc: I would respectfully submit that in Potterville, being a librarian was probably even more outre than being an old maid.

    Actually, the last time I saw the movie (or part of the movie, anyway – it was on at a Christmas gathering I was attending this past year), Potterville looked like a swingin’ hot spot compared to Bedford Falls or whatever the hell the town was actually called.

  123. 123.

    Another Scott

    @Miss Bianca: I think that was one of the best parts, and I’m sure she enjoyed playing that part in the movie.

    My take on it is: George not being there changed her from being a strong woman who got the man she wanted, rebuilt the house she wanted, raised the family she wanted, into a mousy little woman afraid of her own shadow who fainted when a a man hugged her and said he loved her.

    I mean, come on, fainted??!

    :-)

    Capra knew what he was doing.

    My $0.02.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  124. 124.

    GoBlueInOak

    @Geminid: Oh great – so a gerontocracy married to nepotism.  Congrats America – you’ve backdoored yourself into an aristocracy.

  125. 125.

    Geoduck

    I believe Capra did say later on that the “Mary as librarian” thing is something he would change if he was doing it all over again.

  126. 126.

    Brachiator

    @sheila in nc:

    No, the real horror is that “she’s an old maid.” Gasp!

    Darker than that. Mary was the other side of George’s soul. She was the fierce little girl who whispered into his bad ear “George Bailey, I will love you until the day I die.”

    If he did not exist, a part of her zapped out of existence as well.

  127. 127.

    cope

    @Winston: Noomi Rapace is excellent in kick-ass roles.  Besides a couple of stints in the “Prometheus” movies, she takes no prisoners in a movie called “Unlocked” playing a CIA agent operating in Britain and Europe.  It has one of those “pay attention” plots that I find compelling.

  128. 128.

    Soprano2

    @Miss Bianca: No, the “awful fate” is that she becomes a librarian and never marries. In the 1940’s being single was thought to be a horrible fate for women.

    I like the movie, but I don’t watch it every year. I wonder how many conservatives who love it understand what the real message of the movie is.

  130. 130.

    Miss Bianca

    I wonder how long it will take before jackaldom realizes that this former librarian was *joking* about Mary Bailey’s transformation into a librarian being the true horror of her Potterville self.

  132. 132.

    Brachiator

    @Miss Bianca:

    I wonder how long it will take before jackaldom realizes that this former librarian was *joking* about Mary Bailey’s transformation into a librarian being the true horror of her Potterville self.

    There are a number of people, including some esteemed critics who think it offensive that Mary should have been presented as being upset in any way over George’s loss.

    Old maid. Librarian. It’s all bad.

  133. 133.

    Ruckus

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    I still take stairs 2 steps at a time. At LA’s Union Station there is a subway station down 2 long flights of stairs and there are escalators and elevators for those that need them. I understand that the subway is at least 75 ft below ground level. I still take the stairs and take them at 2 steps at a time. Going up. Going down I hang on the the rail for dear life and watch where my feet go so I don’t end up horizontal. Again.

  134. 134.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Ruckus: I used to run up stairs two at a time on occasion. But I’m pretty sure that running up stairs (at home) was how I messed up my left knee, leading ultimately to a total knee replacement. So I don’t do that now.

  135. 135.

    JustRuss

    @Miss Bianca: I’d just started working at a university and spending a lot of time with the librarians the first time I sat through the whole of IAWL. When Clarence shrieked in horror “She’s a librarian!” I just about died laughing.

  138. 138.

    prostratedragon

    @Miss Bianca:  Since the horror was given to Clarence (who used it to panic Bailey) I always thought it was supposed to be a bit of a joke.

    ETA I see I’m not the first.

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