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Late Night Open Thread: Calling Out People Who Should Not Be On TV

by Anne Laurie|  April 4, 20222:45 am| 53 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Russia, Television, Trump Crime Cartel, Assholes, Our Failed Media Experiment

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Mick Mulvaney:

Tonight, we address the hot topic at the CBS watercooler. #LSSC pic.twitter.com/hiW3BBKV28

— The Late Show (@colbertlateshow) April 1, 2022

Tucker Carlson:

This tweet is still up. https://t.co/gegsCa0pfD

— Steven Dennis (@StevenTDennis) April 3, 2022


 

Tucker Carlson’s best bud, who should take some time away from *all* media, for their own good:

Glenn should count his blessings. Putin could have sent him to the Front. https://t.co/R3uD4rnwd1

— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec) April 2, 2022

it's weird all kinds of ppl who insist they don't support Russia's invasion of Ukraine, get very triggered at the suggestion that Russia is losing.

— Obama freed the gays ???? (@Nitzky89) March 30, 2022

Area Substacker is QUITE LITERALLY calling bombing "two regions of Eastern Ukraine" against their will as "ensuring the[ir] independence."

Usually he hides his outright propaganda more subtly than this. https://t.co/OZxKmzkTeE

— emptywheel (@emptywheel) March 29, 2022

Hammer of the Glenn…

This is a general fact. I don't think nearly as many people are being paid to say stupid things as one might think. They just have a hammer, and they want to use that hammer. https://t.co/wgBAbl3vxP

— Jane Coaston (@janecoaston) February 25, 2022

They'll use people and ditch them almost instantly because they just want to hammer. It's not that they have no lodestar, it's that they have one lodestar — or in many cases, an anti-lodestar — and from it they cannot deviate.

— Jane Coaston (@janecoaston) February 25, 2022

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  1. 1.

    Villago Delenda Est

    April 4, 2022 at 2:59 am

    Greenwald is way past his sell-by-date. The borscht is rancid. Throw it out, preferably into a toxic waste site that is properly managed.

  2. 2.

    piratedan

    April 4, 2022 at 3:01 am

    just sitting here wondering how in the hell does this shit continue… I’m allowed to be human, sometimes I make a mistake, when it comes to my attention, I try to fix it and I make a note to myself to try and not perform the exact same screw up again. I figure if I’m wrong enough times, I get the reputation of being somewhat less than reliable…

    Whereas….

    1) no migrant caravans
    2) no walls being built
    3) no Jade Helm
    4) no trickle down
    5) the pandemic was a hoax
    6) don’t trust the scientists
    7) screw the blue states
    8) vaccines don’t work
    9) we’ll get them distributed….maybe
    10) etc etc etc..

    These people have proven to be on the ass end of literally EVERY FUCKING THING and yet here they are trotted out by all the networks, with nary a caveat that they have been wrong about every thing and given a soapbox and then not offer a contrary opinion.

    I hope that some damn day, some one with some cash and some morals/ethics will run a news organization that is actually about news

  3. 3.

    Reverse tool order

    April 4, 2022 at 3:56 am

    In the spirit here, Bill Penzey has added “About Republicans” to his commercial spices website. Does not include apologies, either. (I’ve liked & used their reasonably priced & good spices for decades, by the way.)

    A taste: “The Republican departure from conservative values and embrace of what, from a distance, looks a whole lot like insanity didn’t happen by chance.”

    https://www.penzeys.com/shop/about-republicans/

  4. 4.

    sab

    April 4, 2022 at 4:21 am

    CBS isn’t our grandpatents’ CBS with Walter Kronkite and Dan Rather.

    Current CBS are the same guys who had Lara Logan on as a journalist years after they knew she used lying compromised sources. She pushed her political agenda way beyond the facts, and CBS management was fine with it. So of course they want Mick Mulvaney. This is who they are.

  5. 5.

    Baud

    April 4, 2022 at 4:31 am

    Jesus, of course he’s getting paid. Whether it’s by oligarchs or the market is irrelevant.

  6. 6.

    NotMax

    April 4, 2022 at 4:37 am

    @sab

    Bill Paley was a many faceted man, one of which was the intention and conviction to nurture a news division infused with earned credibility and for all intents and purpose immunized against pressure from the bean counters.

  7. 7.

    sab

    April 4, 2022 at 4:42 am

    @NotMax: So current CBS is not his CBS?

  8. 8.

    sab

    April 4, 2022 at 4:43 am

    @Baud: lost the thtead. Who is “he”.

  9. 9.

    sab

    April 4, 2022 at 4:45 am

    @Baud: Who is “he”?

  10. 10.

    sab

    April 4, 2022 at 4:50 am

    Awful to say, but I am commenting on Balloon Juice when I should be downstairs doing tax returns. But these guys have known the filing date for many years (it never changes)  and they still limped their information in this last week. What is wrong with you selfish assholes?

  11. 11.

    Steeplejack

    April 4, 2022 at 4:51 am

    @Reverse tool order:

    A great essay from Penzey. He doesn’t sugarcoat it.

    [. . .] half the time Republicans are intentionally blocking the solution to the problems we face. The other half of the time they are the problem we face.

  12. 12.

    Baud

    April 4, 2022 at 4:52 am

    @sab:

    Greenwald.

  13. 13.

    sab

    April 4, 2022 at 4:52 am

    @NotMax: Great plan. Did not survive him.

  14. 14.

    sab

    April 4, 2022 at 4:59 am

    Robert E Lee’s family never talked to him again because he was such a misbegotten loser. But more because he was very wrong, and they warned him ahead of time, and he still plowed on and lost his wife’s property. Tough guy who wasn’t bound by his oaths or the law. Tough!  But loser.

  15. 15.

    NotMax

    April 4, 2022 at 5:01 am

    @sab

    Sadly, no. Since his death all that remain unspared by the buffeting of the winds and storms of the media marketplace are the three initials.

  16. 16.

    sab

    April 4, 2022 at 5:01 am

    @Baud: Why are we still talking about Greenwald? He is off in Brazil. Why is he relevant?

  17. 17.

    sab

    April 4, 2022 at 5:04 am

    @NotMax: He has a superprotective family. Someday the wall will break. After my lifetime, but my black grandchildren will chortle in their old age.

  18. 18.

    Van Buren

    April 4, 2022 at 5:08 am

    @sab: OTOH, my accountant had all my tax documents on Valentine’s Day, and he informed Saturday that it is “near” the top of the pile. A minor annoyance in these times.

  19. 19.

    sab

    April 4, 2022 at 5:18 am

    @Van Buren: Corporate and partnership guys dump there stuff at the ladt minute for the March 15 deadline. And they are the bread and butter of most accounting firms.

    I feel your pain. I bailed on an accounting firm when they did that to me one year. My dad with dementia yammered at me for six weeks about where was his tax return, when I had had the data in as soon as possible.

    So I fired them, but now I have to prepare it myself in midTaxseason.

  20. 20.

    Baud

    April 4, 2022 at 5:19 am

    @sab:

    He’s in the OP. He’s also a known source of propaganda against us.

    Otherwise, I don’t know.

  21. 21.

    Geminid

    April 4, 2022 at 5:24 am

    @sab: I would agree that Greenwald is individually not that important. He may be representative of a particular political strain some call the “Red/Brown Alliance, which itself is not very large numerically but is maddening to me and others. I get touchy about attempts to undermine confidence in Democratic leadership and that’s all some of these people ever do.

    I like the approach @Wilson_Valdes (Centrist Fan Account) takes to Greenwald: screen-shotting the latest missive from Brazil and burying it in sarcasm.

  22. 22.

    Kay

    April 4, 2022 at 6:13 am

    John Fetterman
    @JohnFetterman
    11h
    My promise to yinz in Chambersburg + across PA: You’ll never open up Twitter or the paper and be like “John Fetterman loves the filibuster now???”

    I don’t know anything about Fetterman or Lamb but this is good politics. It’s funny and it speaks directly and specifically to the most engaged Democratic base. Will it bring over “independents”? No, but that isn’t who it’s for.
    We’re allowed to talk to the various parts of our base. Just to them. No one questions when Republicans do it and Democrats are permitted to do it too.

  23. 23.

    satby

    April 4, 2022 at 6:14 am

    Interesting, from emptywheel:

    There are multiple investigations implicating close Trump associates and the January 6 investigation is absolutely designed to incorporate Trump, if DOJ manages to continue building from the crime scene backwards. But that’s not actually what people want. None of these verbs — to investigate, to indict, to prosecute — are the ones that whingers are really hoping to see.

    And the verbs they’re hoping to see — perhaps “neutralize” or “disappear” — are not ones that happen as part of due process.

    And none of the due process verbs — “investigate,” “indict,” “prosecute” — are likely to work unless people at the same time think of things like “discredit.”

    Here

  24. 24.

    Baud

    April 4, 2022 at 6:14 am

    @Kay:

    I thought Lamb was against the filibuster too. Did he walk that back or is Fetterman implying that Lamb is not trustworthy?

  25. 25.

    Kay

    April 4, 2022 at 6:17 am

    @Baud:

    OMG, I didn’t read all that into it. I thought he was talking about the conservadems, Sinema, specifically.

  26. 26.

    Baud

    April 4, 2022 at 6:19 am

    @Kay:

    Oh, I don’t know.  I was really just asking.

    Sinema is the only Dem I can think of that went from opposing the filibuster to supporting. Although, to be fair, I don’t think she ever campaigned on her views on the filibuster.  I think the switch occured over several years.

  27. 27.

    Kay

    April 4, 2022 at 6:32 am

    @satby:

    And the verbs they’re hoping to see — perhaps “neutralize” or “disappear” — are not ones that happen as part of due process.

    Yeah, not really fair play to put words in his mouth. Excuse me, “their” mouths. She’s fine when she’s defending Garland based on the actual criticism but she always, always gets over her skis.

  28. 28.

    Kay

    April 4, 2022 at 6:35 am

    @Baud:

    I just would like to get back to the political practice of unapologetically speaking to and supporting our base. We used to do this. We can do it again. “Independents” won’t even fucking hear it, so no one has to worry about offending them.

  29. 29.

    Geminid

    April 4, 2022 at 6:36 am

    @Baud: Lamb made a a point of rejecting the filiuster when he announced his run for Senate last fall. Some of Fetterman’s supporters characterize Lamb as “Manchin-lite,” and Fetterman is implying that Lamb may be “soft” on the issue.

    Both Lamb and Fetterman were fairly restrained in their criticism of each other until last week, but with 6 weeks to go before the primary their rhetoric is heating up.

  30. 30.

    Baud

    April 4, 2022 at 6:37 am

    @Kay:

    I doubt independents care much about the filibuster, except for those independents who are reliably republican.

  31. 31.

    satby

    April 4, 2022 at 6:51 am

    @Kay: ?

  32. 32.

    Kay

    April 4, 2022 at 7:02 am

    @satby:

    It seems like defending Garland shouldn’t have to include accusations that the critic is against “due process” or want to “disappear” the target of the investigation, yet they always do.

    Wheeler should also stop implying that Trump himself will be prosecuted. She has absolutely nothing to back that up other than an attenuated series of guesses. If she thinks people are mad at Garland now they’ll only be madder if they are assured a prosecution that doesn’t happen.

  33. 33.

    eversor

    April 4, 2022 at 7:06 am

    The issue with cities for the right isn’t so much poor people or high rises, is cultural and very religious.   They want a  white mono culture where traditional Christian values govern EVERYTHING.   And that just doesn’t work in cities.  So they see all the assaults on traditional Christian value as coming from cities, and they aren’t wrong here.    They also see a multi culture and they aren’t wrong here either.   Even if you go to countries that have very little diversity you’ll see the rurals screaming about the godless urbanites ruining traditional religion because that’s always been the case.   I have relatives in the Netherlands, Phillipines, and Mexico and it’s all the same there.   Godless urbanites and my traditional Christianity.

    Until we seriously start to address religion as a core issue to all our problems nothing is solvable politcally.

  34. 34.

    satby

    April 4, 2022 at 7:31 am

    @Kay: so your opinion is that emptywheel’s opinion is wrong.

  35. 35.

    Geminid

    April 4, 2022 at 7:34 am

    @Geminid: So, Lieutenant Governor Fetterman did not make the John candidates debate at Muhlenberg College last night. In advance, Lamb accused Fetterman of ducking questions about the 2013 jogger/shotgun incident. Some of Fetterman’s supporters say that as the frontrunner he is just playing it smart.

  36. 36.

    Betty

    April 4, 2022 at 7:39 am

    @Kay: Love him or hate him, Fetterman has been outspoken and unapologetic about his agenda. Pro marijuana legalization, pro-abortion, etc. Chambersburg, by the way, is a very conservative area.

  37. 37.

    BellyCat

    April 4, 2022 at 7:44 am

    @eversor:Until we seriously start to address religion as a core issue to all our problems nothing is solvable politcally

    This.

  38. 38.

    James E Powell

    April 4, 2022 at 8:00 am

    @Kay:

    Are you saying that the same rules apply to both parties? Mind blown.

  39. 39.

    cleek

    April 4, 2022 at 8:07 am

    what GG wants is the opposite of what Democrats want, updated daily.

     

    if this resembles any other Law, that’s just a giant coincidence.

  40. 40.

    Geminid

    April 4, 2022 at 8:13 am

    @Betty: Fetterman has been very strong on cannabis legalization. He is probably more “pro-choice” than “pro-abortion” but I think that’s what you meant anyway.

    But I’m curious about your reference to Chambersburg. It’s in the I-81 corridor, so I’m not surprised that it’s very Republican because the Shenandoah Valley is as Republican as any part of Virginia. None of Pennsylvania’s Senate candidates live anywhere near it, though.

  41. 41.

    Kay

    April 4, 2022 at 8:15 am

    @James E Powell:

    Embrace Your Base! They do it on the Right- to GREAT effect. Now’s the time to do it, too, not 6 weeks before the election. Fetterman wants to win a primary so that’s what he’s up to but as far as their base they’re all in a kind of primary- they need to lock down their most loyal voters first.

  42. 42.

    Kay

    April 4, 2022 at 8:18 am

    @Geminid:

    cannabis legalization

    I couldnt care less about it, but it seems popular. I’d just stick it under the liquor code and be done with it.

  43. 43.

    Geminid

    April 4, 2022 at 8:24 am

    @Kay: I think cannabis legalization is a good issue for Democrats, but I would make it a second tier issue if I was running a campaign, which I’m not.

  44. 44.

    cmorenc

    April 4, 2022 at 8:53 am

    Does Glenn Greenwald actually have any sort of influential audience, other than progressives indulging in Greenwald’s screeds as some sort of weird S&M fetish?

  45. 45.

    Kay

    April 4, 2022 at 9:18 am

    @Geminid:

    I wonder if it’s maybe a way to get the attention of middle aged working class voters, though. I’ve been surprised at how many of our clients are really enthusiastic about things like edibles and vaping pot. They’re not young. I hear about it because many of them are drug tested at work. In Ohio, that means they have to go do a video interview with a “pot doctor” (my phrase) where it’s prescribed for things like anxiety or chronic pain – then they won’t pass the drug test but it doesn’t matter- it’s “excused” like it would be with any other prescription drug. I think there’s an assumption it’s “young people” or sort of college educated dabblers and that hasn’t been my experience. These are hourly, non college people and they’re middle aged.

  46. 46.

    Wapiti

    April 4, 2022 at 9:21 am

    @sab: Yeah, every year, my dad gets an extension.

    This year, he talks about doing his taxes every time I see him. I’m just looking at the piles of paper on his coffee table thinking “does your accountant only have one client? Maybe you could have passed all that paper to him when we got the last K-1 in the beginning of March?”

  47. 47.

    Baud

    April 4, 2022 at 9:22 am

    @Kay:

    I keep ?that they notice the partisan vote in the House to decriminalize pot.

  48. 48.

    Baud

    April 4, 2022 at 9:22 am

    @Kay:

    I keep ?that they notice the partisan vote in the House to decriminalize pot.

  49. 49.

    Geminid

    April 4, 2022 at 9:33 am

    @Kay: Cannabis is good for pain relief. It’s use can have its own downsides, but cannabis is less destructive than alcohol or opioids. I read of a VA study that seemed to show less opioid overdoses in states where medical cannabis is legal, so legalization might be pitched as a public health measure.

    I noticed that the NFL has lightened up on cannabis testing and enforcement.The league is aware there are much more destructive drugs to worry about. Those pro football players need weed or gummies more than most people, considering the aches and pains they deal with.

  50. 50.

    WaterGirl

    April 4, 2022 at 10:19 am

    @cleek:

    If this resembles any other Law, that’s just a giant coincidence.

    hahahahaha

  51. 51.

    WaterGirl

    April 4, 2022 at 10:22 am

    @Baud: I see that you caught that you had transposed two letters in your email address.

    Does your phone or whatever device you use not remember your email every time?

  52. 52.

    Baud

    April 4, 2022 at 10:50 am

    @WaterGirl:

    Not sure what happened.

  53. 53.

    Ruckus

    April 4, 2022 at 12:25 pm

    @piratedan:

    It’s politics. Hate politics. Plain and simple.

    They want to be something, they want everyone else to be something that doesn’t work, hurts the people that they don’t like for completely asinine “ideals,” and they don’t even know why and couldn’t say it if they did. They are the people that need life in some sort of order that makes far less sense than actual life. They want conformity to bullshit.  Life has never been that way but they think it was and should be again. And it isn’t about them conforming it’s about everyone else conforming. They think that if everyone is conforming to some bullshit ideal that doesn’t work and never has and never will that they will be able to understand and control it. But as life can’t be that way and because there are far more humans than ever before they become ever more increasingly insane with their unworkable ideals of control and conformity.

    The world doesn’t make sense to them because it does not fall into boxes that people actually fit into. White/black, control/chaos, simple/complex, male/object, prig/normal. They have to have the world make sense, in the way that a small child can understand, because that is the level of their development, where they stopped or more succinctly, never got past. And the world has gotten bigger, messier, more complex, better – with the ability to communicate clearer, faster and far more. They are effectively shell shocked at the variety, complexity, differences of the human race. They like the control of someone like vova, because that simplifies and amplifies their “ideal” version of life. They do no understand reality and do not want to understand reality. Reality scares them, takes away their box to stand on and pout about their life not having that level of importance they think they deserve. Reality makes them the tiny little shits that they are but can’t admit.

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