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Monday Morning Open Thread: Music & Food, Two Essentials

by Anne Laurie|  April 4, 20227:18 am| 72 Comments

This post is in: Food, Music, Something Good Open Thread, War in Ukraine

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy made a surprise video appearance at the music industry's star-studded Grammy Awards celebration in Las Vegas and appealed to viewers to support his country ‘in any way you can’ https://t.co/hwQYnEpLGx #GRAMMYs pic.twitter.com/dKTBCkfEB8

— Reuters (@Reuters) April 4, 2022


???? Ukrainian singer Mika Newton performs with John Legend in a tribute to Ukraine during the #Grammys https://t.co/5w8R5Vxuvs pic.twitter.com/ixOYmntPns

— Reuters Showbiz (@ReutersShowbiz) April 4, 2022

Joni Mitchell has won a Grammy, the ninth of her career, for best historical album for “Joni Mitchell Archives – Vol. 1: The Early Years (1963–1967).”

Along with her musical team, she thanked her physical therapist, whom she called “my angel.” https://t.co/0PRE8AiC6O pic.twitter.com/0jFGZhw0A4

— AP Entertainment (@APEntertainment) April 3, 2022

"I figured maybe in a couple of decades or something they'd wheel me out, but I'm really happy to take it tonight." Bonnie Raitt says she wasn't expecting her lifetime achievement award from the #Grammys but is grateful for the recognition. pic.twitter.com/Lu2Kgsk12K

— AP Entertainment (@APEntertainment) April 4, 2022

With one plate of food at a time, we may not end this war…but at the very least we are going to make sure that people don’t suffer more. So proud of our @WCKitchen team in Kharkiv, serving every day on the front lines. Watch this… #ChefsForUkraine ???? pic.twitter.com/Rm9vCyitZE

— José Andrés (@chefjoseandres) April 4, 2022

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    April 4, 2022 at 7:28 am

    I can’t believe no one was assaulted.

  2. 2.

    geg6

    April 4, 2022 at 7:30 am

    Jose Andres and his crew are angels on earth. If he and WC Kitchen do not win a Nobel Peace Prize, no one should.
    And the Grammy appearance by Zelensky and the beautiful song performed by John Legend and Mika Newton were extremely moving. I really enjoyed the Grammy Awards show last night.

  3. 3.

    Baud

    April 4, 2022 at 7:32 am

    On Today this morning, the Unofficial Bridgerton Musical won.

    Also, Obama is going to the White House to promote Obamacare.

  4. 4.

    Geminid

    April 4, 2022 at 7:42 am

    @Baud: And this afternoon President Biden, along with Transportation Secretary Buttegieg, will deliver remarks on supply chain issues.

    Tomorrows ACA anniversary event will be the first time Barack Obama has visited the White House since he left over five years ago.

  5. 5.

    Cameron

    April 4, 2022 at 7:43 am

    As this is an open thread, I don’t feel guilty about promoting Georgism (I’ve been an adherent for over 40 years).  If y’all aren’t doing anything that particular evening, sign up and tune in:

    https://www.hgsss.org/marginal-land-marginal-labor-marginal-capital/

  6. 6.

    Baud

    April 4, 2022 at 7:47 am

    @Cameron: 

    Reject Georgism.

    Embrace Baudism!

  7. 7.

    Raven

    April 4, 2022 at 7:47 am

    Bonnie was born two days before me, just in the nick of time!

  8. 8.

    rikyrah

    April 4, 2022 at 7:47 am

    Good Morning, Everyone???

  9. 9.

    Baud

    April 4, 2022 at 7:47 am

    @rikyrah:

    Good morning.

  10. 10.

    Baud

    April 4, 2022 at 7:48 am

    @Geminid:

    the first time Barack Obama has visited the White House since he left over five years ago.

     
    That’ll be a joyous event.

  11. 11.

    Betty Cracker

    April 4, 2022 at 8:05 am

    Good to know he gets it:

    New York (CNN Business) In a forthcoming book, a pair of New York Times reporters and CNN political analysts report that President Joe Biden “assessed” Fox News “as one of the most destructive forces in the United States.”

    The reporters, Jonathan Martin and Alexander Burns, say that Biden was even more critical of Fox Corp patriarch Rupert Murdoch.

    According to the book, Biden told an unnamed associate in mid-2021 that Murdoch was “the most dangerous man in the world.”

    She really, really gets it:

    Asked why New Zealand does not suffer from the rage of older white men like in other western Anglo countries, PM Jacinda Adern replied, "Because we've never allowed Rupert Murdoch to set up a media outlet here." The guy has wreaked havoc on civil society in US.

    — Jaimey Sexton (@JaimeySexton) April 3, 2022

  12. 12.

    Emma from Miami

    April 4, 2022 at 8:10 am

    President Zelenskyi was born for this time and place. I remember some of the jokes made in the European press when he was elected. And here we are. Putin must be livid watching “the crass comedian” earn a reputation as a heroic leader while his crashes and burns. Of course, it might be he’s lied to by his subordinates as they seem to do in most things.

  13. 13.

    Cameron

    April 4, 2022 at 8:16 am

    @Baud: I kneel, defeated.

  14. 14.

    Baud

    April 4, 2022 at 8:17 am

    Orban won big in Hungary.  The GOP must be jealous.

  15. 15.

    p.a.

    April 4, 2022 at 8:26 am

    @Baud: Not jealous; they’re taking notes.?

  16. 16.

    Nicole

    April 4, 2022 at 8:27 am

    That’s so cool about Joni Mitchell, and so nice she thanked her physical therapist.  I love that she chose to develop alternate tunings for her guitar because her polio-weakened left hand couldn’t handle some chords (barred F chord, cough cough it’s the devil) and now guitarists study her signature tunings and playing style.

  17. 17.

    p.a.

    April 4, 2022 at 8:39 am

    They’re back to Hunter Biden’s laptop 24/7 over there.

    https://youtu.be/Pubd-spHN-0

  18. 18.

    Anyway

    April 4, 2022 at 8:43 am

    @Baud:

    Nah. he is their hero. That’s what scares me – they have all these democracy-denigrating role models from around the globe. It didn’t use to be so overt.

  19. 19.

    sdhays

    April 4, 2022 at 8:44 am

    @Baud: I don’t know much about Hungary, but it’s shocking and disturbing to see Hungarians so quickly go all in on being pro-Russia considering what Russia did to them a few decades ago.

  20. 20.

    NotMax

    April 4, 2022 at 8:44 am

    @Baud

    Reject DeSantis.
    Embrace DePantsless.
    ;)

  21. 21.

    Baud

    April 4, 2022 at 8:46 am

    @sdhays: Apparently, they have the same urban/rural divide that we do.  Part of the problem over there is that the opposition was a multiparty coalition.  I’m not sure how unified they were.  But the bigger problem seems to be Orban’s control over the media.

  22. 22.

    Soprano2

    April 4, 2022 at 8:54 am

    @Baud: I don’t see how anyone else could win in Hungary since Orban controls 90% of the press. I don’t think anyone else could win in the face of that. Also, I heard a report this morning about their election that said the majority of the population lives in rural areas. That would make it even worse.

  23. 23.

    Betty Cracker

    April 4, 2022 at 8:59 am

    @Baud: Yep, and in addition to co-opting media outlets and educational institutions, Orbán and his party have rigged the vote to the point that opponents can’t win (3/31 NYT):

    [Orbán] has unleashed a fresh round of election law changes that benefit his party. He put an inflammatory but ultimately symbolic L.G.B.T. referendum up for a vote, a move that is likely to rally his most strident supporters. And he legalized the registration of voters outside of their home districts — a common practice, until now criminal, that is known as “voter tourism.”

    Sounds awfully familiar…

  24. 24.

    Baud

    April 4, 2022 at 9:02 am

    @Betty Cracker: Apparently, he also gerrymandered districts too.

  25. 25.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    April 4, 2022 at 9:06 am

    Interesting, if predictable, article about how paying Fox viewers to watch CNN instead changed their views.https://www.salon.com/2022/04/04/can-fox-news-viewers-be-deprogrammed-paying-them-to-watch-cnn-makes-them-less-gullible_partner/

    From Salon

  26. 26.

    bjacques

    April 4, 2022 at 9:07 am

    @Betty Cracker: Hungary is one of Europe’s (and NATO’s red states; clearly democracy is wasted on them. I wouldn’t be very sorry if Putin wanted to send tanks there, for old times’ sake. Oh well, we go to war and trade with the democracies we have, not the ones we wish we had. Orbán is a turd, but he’s still a more clever politician than the majority of GOP presidential hopefuls.

    I just hope NATO are careful about the intel Hungary get to see—maybe Man Called Intrepid feints to pipeline to Putin.

  27. 27.

    Betty Cracker

    April 4, 2022 at 9:10 am

    @bjacques: I’ve wondered about the intel thing too. Since Hungary is a NATO member, we’d be obligated to defend it if Russia invaded, but that’s unlikely since Hungary is basically acting as a Russian cat’s paw.

  28. 28.

    jonas

    April 4, 2022 at 9:15 am

    @Betty Cracker: I was reading recently that other NATO intelligence agencies have realized that Hungary’s intelligence agency has been so thoroughly penetrated/co-opted by the Russians that they can’t deal with it any longer. They may be a member still technically, but they aren’t on our side.

  29. 29.

    bjacques

    April 4, 2022 at 9:18 am

    @Betty Cracker: Adam did say he’d address it tomorrow, so I’m looking forward. A friend of mine is Hungarian on his father’s side (so went to Young Pioneer camp back in the day) and expected Orbán would win again because of the vote rigging and the opposition not quite holding together.

  30. 30.

    debbie

    April 4, 2022 at 9:18 am

    @sdhays:

    The EU should end their funding. Biting the hand that feeds is not a good look.

  31. 31.

    OzarkHillbilly

    April 4, 2022 at 9:22 am

    Rex [email protected]
    Amazing.

    Goodable
    @Goodable
    · 20h
    In Denmark, there are libraries where you can “borrow” a person instead of a book to hear their life story for thirty minutes.

    Each person has a title like Refugee, Unemployed, Monk, etc.

    The goal is to fight prejudice and it’s now in 85+ countries.

  32. 32.

    jonas

    April 4, 2022 at 9:22 am

    @Soprano2: ​
      Budapest is really the only significant urban center, and many who once made up the more educated, liberal-minded electorate there have simply fled the country. The country’s best university, the CEU, had to relocate to Vienna.

  33. 33.

    Baud

    April 4, 2022 at 9:23 am

    FBI International needs to relocate their base of operations from Budapest ASAP.

  34. 34.

    jonas

    April 4, 2022 at 9:25 am

    @debbie: Yep. The EU has put up with waayy too much illiberal shit from Hungary, but Poland, too. The problem is, a lot of the Brussels bureaucracy still views the EU through the lens of a customs union, not a bloc of liberal western democracies. So as long as goods and services are flowing freely, it really doesn’t matter that you, say, criminalize homosexuality.

  35. 35.

    Kay

    April 4, 2022 at 9:25 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    Just right out there with the anti-gay. Imagine for a moment if this were the spokesperson for a DEMOCRATIC governor and they were this extreme Left. You could hear political media screeching about it from here.

    For some reason “nutjob Right” is perfectly acceptable. It’s a ridiculous double standard.

    Ruth Ben-Ghiat

    @ruthbenghiat

    This is DeSantis’s extremist spokesperson, wishing that the US would have a version of Orban’s anti-LBGTQ referendum.

    Christina Pushaw 
    @ChristinaPushaw

    · 11h

    Replying to @roddreher @josh_hammer and @GovRonDeSantis
    Love the referendum idea. Wish the USA could do something similar

  36. 36.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    April 4, 2022 at 9:28 am

    @Cameron: , I don’t feel guilty about promoting Georgism (I’ve been an adherent for over 40 years).

    So forget Republication (you know, Robot Nixon) it’s back to the classics; The Hanoverians like George III of England.

  37. 37.

    Another Scott

    April 4, 2022 at 9:30 am

    @Cameron: Thanks for the pointer.  Interesting ideas.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  38. 38.

    Baud

    April 4, 2022 at 9:35 am

    @Kay: Didn’t Ohio do something like that in 2004, which helped Bush get a second term?

  39. 39.

    OzarkHillbilly

    April 4, 2022 at 9:35 am

    The Meanest TA, [email protected]
    Everyone on my team (5 men ages 48-75) texts me to make sure the slang they’re using is correct in context.
    In return they translate my frustrations into professional corporate.

    Me: “How do I say this meeting is a waste of my time I am not paid enough to deal with your bullshit?”
    Boss: “Can you provide me with a meeting agenda so I can ensure my presence adds value? I want to prioritize my schedule to support our most urgent needs.”

    Me: “How do I say there is no way you are this fucking stupid?”
    WorkDad: “I think there was a disconnect, can you restate your definition of this concept so we can ensure there’s no miscommunication?”

    Me: “How do I say you fucked around now you’re finding out?”
    Boss: “I think you’ll find that this outcome is in line with the predictions we made during the (date) meeting.”

    I never would have made it in a corporate environment.

  40. 40.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    April 4, 2022 at 9:36 am

    @Emma from Miami: Maybe, the explanation I heard of Putin is he is an associate member of the Russia Thieves in Law gang and they see themselves as shirtless, tattooed heroic Christian rebels fighting The Man (Never mind Putin is The Man, both Hitler and Stalin though they were fighting The Man, that’s why conspiracy theories rot the brain) In that world view comedians turned successful war leader Zelenskyy just supports it’s all just a conspiracy against Putin, like “sleepy Joe” Biden winning an election supports Trump and his supporters crazy ass conspiracy theories.

  41. 41.

    Kay

    April 4, 2022 at 9:37 am

    I’m old enough to remember when any Democrat who had even a passing connection/statement to any Leftist government had to issue elaborate explanations, yet that doesn’t seem to apply at to the Right who openly admire far Right wing authoritarians in other countries and vow to bring that here, to the US.

    Just seems like a really nutty double standard. Perhaps political media could ponder why they have accepted it.

  42. 42.

    Kay

    April 4, 2022 at 9:41 am

    @Baud:

    I think the Bush antigay campaign in Ohio in 2004 was determinative. Ohio Republicans told the NYTimes it was so I’ll take their world for it. The while thing has been sanitized and memory holed but it was fucking vicious– they targeted gay people specifically, and it worked. That nice, conventional, blue blood Republican, George W Bush.

    Maybe people will remember it now that it’s back and really on steriods.

    They never change. Only the tactics change.

  43. 43.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    April 4, 2022 at 9:45 am

    @bjacques:  I gather Orbán is and knows he’s on Putin’s enemies list for the crime of not being a Putin puppet.

  44. 44.

    zhena gogolia

    April 4, 2022 at 9:45 am

    @Baud: Oh, shit.

  45. 45.

    Jeffro

    April 4, 2022 at 9:48 am

    @jonas: I’m trying to picture this happening in America and I can’t get there.  A whole university relocated?  Wow.

  46. 46.

    zhena gogolia

    April 4, 2022 at 9:49 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: I so identify with that tweet. Luckily I have a YOUNGER colleague who does this for me.

  47. 47.

    zhena gogolia

    April 4, 2022 at 9:51 am

    @Jeffro: It’s another terrible tragedy, like Russia. You can’t keep skimming off the cream and hope to have anything worthwhile left.

    Unfortunately, it was Soros who first promoted Orban!

  48. 48.

    Baud

    April 4, 2022 at 9:56 am

    @zhena gogolia: Oh man.  That’s a bridge too far.  I’m returning all of the money Soros paid me.

  49. 49.

    Betty Cracker

    April 4, 2022 at 9:58 am

    @Kay: I’ve been telling anyone who will listen that DeSantis is following the Orbán playbook to the letter in FL and would love to take that act nationwide. Most people say “Or-who?” ;-)

    It’s amazing how Joe Biden still has to answer for “defund the police,” which he never said and has explicitly disowned for years, but no one will ask DeSantis about Pushaw’s nutty, taxpayer-funded bullshit.

    Hillary Clinton was on Meet the Press this weekend. She had a lot to say about Putin, Saudi Arabia, etc. She also said Democrats need to do a better job of calling out right-wing extremists, which is basically every elected Republican these days. Maybe she’s right.

  50. 50.

    James E Powell

    April 4, 2022 at 9:59 am

    @Baud:

    That kinda sorta sounds like us.

  51. 51.

    Baud

    April 4, 2022 at 10:01 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    Checking her twitter, Hillary was hoping for an Orban defeat, so that’s disappointing.  But speaking of the gay, she shared this bit of positive news.

    Last year, a historic number of LGBTQ people were elected to office. In 2022, we can set new records.

    Add to the momentum by running yourself, or by encouraging a friend to run. https://t.co/Gy8UiPSeCj #OutToWin
    — Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) April 2, 2022

  52. 52.

    prostratedragon

    April 4, 2022 at 10:02 am

    Paul Krugman has been watching Orban for years.  He must have many columns and posts detailing how the situation in Hungary arose.

  53. 53.

    lowtechcyclist

    April 4, 2022 at 10:02 am

    @Cameron: I don’t feel guilty about promoting Georgism

    I don’t know that I can get behind that (or Paulism or Ringoism), but: All Hail Marx-Lennon!

  54. 54.

    Baud

    April 4, 2022 at 10:03 am

    @James E Powell:

    I don’t know if racial issues are a big thing in Hungary.  In all other respects, it sounds worse there than in the U.S. in terms of being further down the fascist road.

  55. 55.

    geg6

    April 4, 2022 at 10:04 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    She’s been right about everything else.  So I have to assume she’s right about this.  She’s got the receipts.

  56. 56.

    Anyway

    April 4, 2022 at 10:07 am

    @jonas:

    Yes, this! EU spent so many years chasing Greece’s “debt” while turning a blind eye to Hungary’s illiberal laws and Orban’s rigging all the laws in his favor.

  57. 57.

    Betty Cracker

    April 4, 2022 at 10:09 am

    @Baud: It’s been a long time since I saw Budapest, but it was overwhelmingly white, IIRC.

  58. 58.

    Soprano2

    April 4, 2022 at 10:09 am

    @Kay: I don’t know what the referendum was, but I think the “mainstream” Republican position now is that they should all just go back into the closet so none of us have to see them or hear about them anymore. I think most R’s don’t actually want to kill them (yet), they just don’t want to see or hear about them anymore. Except for transwomen, I think most of them want to kill them. They don’t seem to care as much about transmen.

  59. 59.

    James E Powell

    April 4, 2022 at 10:11 am

    @Baud:

    The relentless & determined positive attitude of people like Hillary Clinton & Barack Obama shames me out of my cyclical doom & gloom.

  60. 60.

    zhena gogolia

    April 4, 2022 at 10:17 am

    @Baud: They hate the Roma and immigrants, that’s a big factor in his success.

    ETA: This was supposed to be responding to your post about racism.

  61. 61.

    zhena gogolia

    April 4, 2022 at 10:19 am

    @zhena gogolia: Not to mention us Slovaks, but we’re white so I guess it’s not to the point.

  62. 62.

    NotMax

    April 4, 2022 at 10:28 am

    @Betty Cracker

    Relatively small step to add gays to the Hungarian Unhit Parade which historically includes Roma, Jews and tolerated but not officially recognized minority churches.

  63. 63.

    ian

    April 4, 2022 at 10:35 am

    @Baud: 
    Baudism! A pantless chicken in every pot!

  64. 64.

    germy

    April 4, 2022 at 10:57 am

    Joe!

    now we're talkin' pic.twitter.com/GcUHcrYIen— staid (@staidindoors) April 4, 2022

  65. 65.

    Steeplejack

    April 4, 2022 at 11:03 am

    Hollywood Reporter: “Louis C.K. Wins Grammy for First Special Since Sexual Misconduct Allegations.”

    Matt Burnell: “That is a really specific category but I suppose someone had to win it.”

  66. 66.

    Baud

    April 4, 2022 at 11:07 am

    @Steeplejack: I heard it was very competitive.

  67. 67.

    trollhattan

    April 4, 2022 at 11:15 am

    @Betty Cracker: Jacinda tops my “list of PMs I’d like to have a beer with” [pronounced “bee-ya”].

  68. 68.

    trollhattan

    April 4, 2022 at 11:20 am

    @Nicole: “Reckless Daughter” is a good biography of Joni, really helped me appreciate her more, since she’s kind of always “been there” and I was in no way ready for her music when I was a kid.

  69. 69.

    S. Cerevisiae

    April 4, 2022 at 11:22 am

    @Steeplejack:  That literally made me LOL!

  70. 70.

    Brachiator

    April 4, 2022 at 11:26 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    [Orbán] has unleashed a fresh round of election law changes that benefit his party. He put an inflammatory but ultimately symbolic L.G.B.T. referendum up for a vote, a move that is likely to rally his most strident supporters. And he legalized the registration of voters outside of their home districts — a common practice, until now criminal, that is known as “voter tourism.”

    Orban today. Republicans tomorrow.

  71. 71.

    jonas

    April 4, 2022 at 11:35 am

    @Jeffro: DeSantis is trying to Orbanize the University of Florida, so the right here is paying attention. CEU was an American-style institution created and endowed by Soros to promote liberalism and democracy in the former east bloc countries. So of course it had to go. Orban essentially pulled their accreditation and made it impossible for them to operate independently, so they pulled up stakes and moved over the border into Austria.

  72. 72.

    PaulB

    April 4, 2022 at 12:59 pm

    Just a note that the New Zealand PM quote may be fake.

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