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Republicans are deliberately sabotaging the economy because they believe it will help them win the midterm elections. Jen Psaki called a particularly egregious offender out:

Senator Brian Schatz of Hawaii is sick of elected Republicans using public office to mainstream lurid smears dreamed up by their demented cult, so he called the motherfuckers out:

As discussed in the morning thread, Schatz also read the distinguished pecker-pulling fascist fist-pumper Josh Hawley of Missouri for filth on the Senate floor. Schatz was sick of Hawley brainlessly blocking DoD nominations and hypocritically criticizing the Biden admin’s action on Ukraine, so he called that motherfucker out:

Rep. Jamie Raskin understands that we’re in a global struggle between democracy and authoritarianism — and that some of his colleagues in Congress are on Putin’s side. He called the fascist “gentlelady” from Georgia out:

Senator Chris Murphy said he’s “sick and tired” of powerful Republican politicians bullying transgender kids, so he told those motherfuckers to stop it:

More please, and thank you!

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  1. 1.

    sab

    I am old. By the time I was thirty more of my high school classmates had died of suicide than car accidents. And in retrospect most of those suicides were gay. Many were close friends, and I have always felt I failed them somehow.

  2. 2.

    cope

    It’s a couple of baby steps in the right direction for sure. Now they just have to standardize these push-backs across the Democratic Party. It’s something the GQP is very good at.

  4. 4.

    Old School

    Every little bit helps. Hopefully, these clips will reach people who need to see them.

  5. 5.

    Cameron

    Not just Dems – the TX Ag Commissioner (a Republican wingnut, but I repeat myself) has jumped on Abbott, too.

  6. 6.

    satby

    Well, huh. I was told that Democrats weren’t being vocal enough. The Twitter haters are wrong about one thing: Twitter allows us to completely bypass the MSM squelching what the Democrats say and do.

    And for the Luddites not on Twitter: tweets not only get viewed and shared, but they help move the narrative more onto favorable ground. Which is why the NYT told it’s reporters to quit concentrating on Twitter, because they’re routinely reamed for the bias and lousy framing of stories.

  7. 7.

    Betty Cracker

    I read somewhere earlier that Mexican truckers are organizing a blockade of bridges leading to the U.S. to protest Abbott’s deliberate sabotage, which of course fucks up Mexico’s supply chain too. I bet Fox News won’t cover that trucker protest!

  9. 9.

    Brachiator

    @sab:

    It was a good thing that you were a friend. These losses are tragic, but perhaps we all should remember the past and try to create a better future.

  10. 10.

    gene108

    @cope:

    Now they just have to standardize these push-backs across the Democratic Party. It’s something the GQP is very good at.

    Party wide message discipline is probably the only thing Democrats really need to try and be more like Republicans on.

    Message discipline is a Republican superpower.

  12. 12.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    I’ve been looking at lists of books that hysterical Rs want to ban from schools or even public libraries. I’m curious to know what books they’d approve of?  Chaucer? Balzac? Rabelais? (to echo The Music Man)

  13. 13.

    trollhattan

    @Betty Cracker:

    Read about that. They could really twist some heads if they were protesting vaccine mandates. “Mah Mexican brother-truckers have a point.”

  14. 14.

    Fair Economist

    Abbott’s economic sabotage would be a great opportunity for unified Democratic messaging. Every time food price inflation comes up, say “Americans are paying more at the grocery store because Republican Greg Abbott has broken the supply chain”. Over and over again.

  15. 15.

    trollhattan

    “Russian warship, have a second helping of fuck you!”

    A Russian cruiser which was famously defied by Ukrainian troops on a small island at the start of the war has been hit by Ukrainian rockets in the Black Sea, according to Ukrainian officials.
    The Moskva, the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet, received “very serious damage”, Odesa regional governor Maksym Marchenko said.
    “It has been confirmed that the missile cruiser Moskva today went exactly where it was sent by our border guards on Snake Island!” he said.
    On the first day of the invasion, the small garrison refused calls from the ship for it to surrender, telling the ship to “go to hell”.
    Earlier on Wednesday a fire was reported on the ship. Ukrainian presidential aide Oleksiy Arestovych said Russian rescuers were unable to reach the vessel.
    He said the ship could have as many as 510 crew members on board.
    –BBC

  16. 16.

    Skepticat

    Although I’m not their constituent, I’ve written each a brief note expressing support and gratitude for their statements and urging them to keep on keeping on. It is a shame we don’t have media to do that, but at least they’re speaking out, and I hope more Democrats will.

  18. 18.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    Republicans are deliberately sabotaging the economy because they believe it will help them win the midterm elections

    I am getting more and more convinced that the Right just breaks shit for the sake of breaking shit and there is no cunning strategy behind it.  Look at Governor Abattoir there is who will win his reelection because he was a R behind his name, even though he broke the medical system, power grid, state national guard and now food supply chain for his state. Abbot could get the elections results and have more fun by streaming himself doing threesomes with hookers while on a cocaine binge over the internet but instead he does this miserable crap.

  20. 20.

    Villago Delenda Est

    Margarine Traitor Grusome is writing checks with her mouth that her body can’t cash.

  21. 21.

    Cameron

    @Betty Cracker: Sounds like it’s playing hell with the produce departments all over TX; will have to get my sibs’ (I have 4 there) read on it.  Quite certain it won’t be Abbott-positive.

  22. 22.

    Skepticat

    @Fair Economist: ​
     

    … a great opportunity for unified Democratic messaging.

    We need more people—and I include and myself all jackals—to make more of and take advantage of those opportunities.

  24. 24.

    O. Felix Culpa

    This is excellent. I’m glad that Democrats are Speaking Truth while not spewing hate, which is the GQP unifying message.

  26. 26.

    Matt McIrvin

    I have to admit the latest Republican turn toward hardcore homophobe/transphobe witch hunting is giving me very bad thoughts, sometimes thoughts that are eliminationist or authoritarian in themselves. Which is probably part of what these provocations are about.

  28. 28.

    delk

    The complete and total maga Texas Agriculture Chief called out Abbott to knock it the fuck off.

  29. 29.

    Brachiator

    @gene108:

    Message discipline is a Republican superpower.

    Lies, slander and wacky conspiracy theories are easy. It don’t take much talent or skill.

    The GOP can’t craft an agenda. They can’t do anything that requires thinking.

  31. 31.

    sab

    @Brachiator: Going forward these kids are still out there and they have friends who should be more active than I was.  These kids need to know people do love them. Their friends need to let them know they care a lot. I assumed my gay friends knew I loved them. Apparently they had no idea.

  32. 32.

    Old School

    Not sure how big of a difference it’ll make, but a little progress:

    After heavy bipartisan backlash, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Wednesday ended a Texas DPS checkpoint for commercial trucks coming in from Nuveo León, Mexico, after striking a deal with Gov. Samuel Alejandro Garcia Sepulveda.
    …
    Abbott said he is working with other Mexican governors to end the checkpoints at other points of entry, but until those agreements are reached, Texas DPS will continue its secondary inspections.

  34. 34.

    Betty Cracker

    @Cameron: It’s not just affecting TX — Abbott is holding up produce bound for all over the U.S. and is thus directly responsible for scarcity and higher prices.

  35. 35.

    cain

    @Lord Fartdaddy (Formerly, Mumphrey, Smedley Darlington Mingobat, et al.):

    Still chasing after the white male demographic. They should ask themselves, if they lose the democracy what would be status of their jobs in office?

    Every democratic person should to the best of their ability push back as vigorously as they can. People want to see our elected Democratic officials show moral courage against the GOP. They should not let the Squad or others speak  on their behalf.

  38. 38.

    Betty

    A politics question for Adam if he reads this. The traitorous Congressman Scott Perry, who gets way too little coverage as a leader of the Freedon Caucus, is my Congressman in a deep red district. There are two Democrats in the primary, one is a lovely woman running on immigration reform and advocating for women and minorities, absolute losers in this district. The other one is a retired guy from the Army War College focused on education. I would like to know if Adam knows him and, if so, has any thoughts about him he would like to share. His name is Rick Coplen. I don’t want to put this in the Ukraine thread.

  40. 40.

    cain

    @Old School: Why does need to strike a deal with Mexican governors? He can just leave. There is no reason for them to be there. It’s not their damn jurisdiction.

  41. 41.

    sab

    @Old School: He will negotiate until December. Point is to fuck up prices now until the election.

    Why does Texas want to be governed by monsters?

  42. 42.

    Old School

    @cain: Abbott is trying to appear tough on immigration.  I assume he wants to shift blame to Mexican officials rather than appearing to give up.

  43. 43.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @sab: If it’s any consolation, sometimes knowing that someone loves you still isn’t enough in the midst of societal bigotry. I’ve seen it happen with people I thought were well-loved and well-supported. But it’s hard to swim in a sea of poison without swallowing some of it yourself.

    Regardless, thank you for trying to make difference going forward.

  44. 44.

    debbie

    Good to see this pushback on the Senate/House floor. So much more effective than sending out tweets.

  47. 47.

    Brachiator

    @sab: 

    Going forward these kids are still out there and they have friends who should be more active than I was. These kids need to know people do love them. Their friends need to let them know they care a lot. I assumed my gay friends knew I loved them. Apparently they had no idea.

    Things are not simple, especially when people take their own lives. I have had friends who struggled with depression. One thing I learned was that sometimes people have so much difficulty dealing with their pain that they cannot see how much others may care about them.

    We just have to do the best that we can. Over the past few decades, gay people and those who love them have tried to create a world in which people can be free to be who they are. Free to love and be loved.

    The work continues.

  49. 49.

    Renie

    I read that the Russians put sanctions on almost 400 members of the House.  Will be interesting to see a list of who they did NOT sanction.

  50. 50.

    frosty

    @Betty: My condolences on your rep. He was mine too until PA got ungerrymandered and now I’ve got Schmuck. He’s based in Lancaster and hasn’t ever crossed the Suskie to our side of the river.

    We’ve had great candidates against Perry and I’ve knocked doors for a lot of them. I hope one of these does well.

  53. 53.

    Old School

    @Renie:

    I read that the Russians put sanctions on almost 400 members of the House.  Will be interesting to see a list of who they did NOT sanction.

    Nobody.  Between today and earlier sanctions, all members of the House of Representatives are on the list.

  55. 55.

    The Truffle

    I need to get off Twitter. Everyone there is bellyaching over Hakeem Jeffries’ remarks about focusing on pocketbook issues. They think Democrats aren’t doing anything to push back on being called pedophiles.

  57. 57.

    debbie

    Not sure if this has already been shared, but the Brooklyn Public Library has started a program distributing e-cards so kids everywhere can take out banned books.

    More school districts are banning books from classrooms and school libraries. A recent survey from Pen America found that more than a thousand titles have been banned from various school districts since July, books like “The Bluest Eye” by Toni Morrison and the memoir Genderqueer by Maia Kobabe. But one library system has announced a program to challenge the tide of book bannings. NPR’s Andrew Limbong has more.

    ANDREW LIMBONG, BYLINE: Let’s say you’re a 14-year-old kid living in a school district that’s just banned the young adult memoir “All Boys Aren’t Blue” by George M. Johnson. You can email the Brooklyn Public Library system over in New York and explain to them the situation.

    NICK HIGGINS: We are offering them, basically, a free out-of-state e-card…

    LIMBONG: That’s Nick Higgins, chief librarian at the Brooklyn Public Library.

    HIGGINS: …Which gives them access to about half a million audiobooks and e-books in our system at Brooklyn Public Library unrestricted, totally for free.

    LIMBONG: This would normally cost 50 bucks, by the way. And it’s specifically for younger people, folks between the ages of 13 and 21. It’s part of a campaign the library is calling Books Unbanned. And the free e-card is just one part of it.

  58. 58.

    eachother

    Knowing the harm being done to children and doing it anyway.  The right to life does not include the right.  They reserve the right to wrong children who may know who they are or are trying to figure out who they are.  I hear it said, cruelty is the point.  This exceeds cruelty.  These are menacing, intimidating threats. Life threatening, violent assault against vulnerable American citizens.

  66. 66.

    JustRuss

    Kudos to Raskin for working in “Axis” when referring to Republicans Putin-lovers. They deserve that and much more.

  68. 68.

    Betty

    @frosty: I will probably support and vote for Coplen and hope for the best. Smucker is a perfect name for one of these guys.

  69. 69.

    Suzanne

    I checked in with Spawn the Elder a couple of days ago. He’s been doing really well — transitioning, good mental health care, and old-fashioned just-growing-the-fuck-out-of-terrible-adolescence have all been good for him. I asked if he was doing okay, with all of the anti-trans-kids laws and all of the coverage. He said he is doing fine, and he does not watch any of the media and I am increasingly convinced that he is absolutely doing the right thing. It’s probably terrible that I’m now encouraging him not to maintain awareness of what is going on in the world, but fuck it.

  72. 72.

    Sure Lurkalot

    @The Truffle:

    Please see the link at my earlier comment #33. It’s not a binary choice to a) focus on pocketbook issues vs b) push back against the crazy talk, because the crazy talk is being acted upon and against those most vulnerable.

    They are inciting violence with full intention. Democrats can discount it as crazy talk and talk around it but millions of people believe it and some will take it further. If you were the parent of a child accosted by stranger in the normal course of a day, I think you would want your representatives to address this increasing danger.

  75. 75.

    Geminid

    @Baud: Mark Warner is my Senator and I like him. He sure is bland, though. It was fitting that when Kamala Harris was giving cooking lessons during the 2020 campaign, she instructed Warner in the art of making a grilled tuna sandwich. He probably used white bread.

  77. 77.

    Another Scott

    Guess who has a new book coming out! Come on, guess! You’ll never guess.!!

    What’s that??!

    Charlie Pierce at Esquire:

    Mitch McConnell Knew the Depths of Trump’s Plot to Steal the Election Weeks Before January 6

    Did any of these “Senate leaders” think to alert the FBI or the Capitol Police?

    “I’ve been calling folks in those states and they’re with us,” Trump is reported to have told the Senate GOP leaders in a private December 2020 phone call, according to a soon-to-be-released book by New York Times political reporters Jonathan Martin and Alexander Burns, both CNN political analysts.

    Who guessed that??! I know nobody here did; I mean, it’s unpossible to believe that FTFNYT reporters would sit on such a revelation for a book deal.

    (via CharlesPPierce on Twitter)

    Grr…,
    Scott.

  78. 78.

    Baud

    @Sure Lurkalot:

    It’s not a binary choice to a) focus on pocketbook issues vs b) push back against the crazy talk, because the crazy talk is being acted upon and against those most vulnerable.

     

    Do you happen to have Jefferies’ exact words? Did he portray it as a binary choice?

  79. 79.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @schrodingers_cat:

    It is the 103 anniversary of the Jalianwala Bagh massacre, a turning point in India’s freedom struggle…

    India won its independence less than 20 years after this incident.

    Jalianwala Bagh Massacre: 13 April 1919.

    Independence of India (and Pakistan): 15 August 1947, 28 years and 4 months later.

    You might want to have a chat with whoever did the math for this post.

  80. 80.

    Pauline

    @Betty Cracker: Yes, he is. As someone who grew up in the major port of entry for produce in AZ (Nogales), the shipments first go to  produce packing houses and then the produce is sent on to its destinations in the U.S. Those packing houses are one of the the major industries in Nogales.

  82. 82.

    Geminid

    @The Truffle: I haven’t looked but I bet a lot of Democrats are standing up for Jeffries, especially among the Black Democrats I follow on Twitter. Some people are sincere in their criticism, but Jeffries is a target for people who resent the Democratic establishment and they’re going to tear Jeffries down because they want to tear Democratic leadership down.

  83. 83.

    wetzel

    We are dogs beaten by their previous owners. We learned our helplessness from Reagan. The celluloid parade float and well dang wow bye Jimmy Carter bye Walter Mondale and Newt Gingrich with his fascist, anti-sacred cognitive approach took over and everybody’s been primed we are Democrats! Demorats!!!! The ones, you know, who can’t stop the decay, failure, collapse of the country into deeper crisis. The Democrat Party!!! We are destructive and sick, pathetic and lying, radically liberal, bureaucraticly shallow and most of all traitors, if you get down to it.

    About Newt Gingrinch’s GOPAC memo and the generational changes it brought to American politics, I mean anti-sacred in the anthropological sense. You cannot have a spiritually minded symbolic consciousness if you use language that way on other people. We are Democrats! If there is an OODA loop (orient observe decide act) in the field of propaganda mind control we are already being manipulated. Thank you GOP compatriots! Maybe when Democrats and Republicans are dying together in a war someday, like on Omaha Beach, along with Independents, you will still be dicks.

    Reddit and Facebook are Skinner boxes where karma and likes and downvotes are positive and negative reinforcers applied by various state and non-state actors. We are screwed. On Reddit today, am I being downvoted by some dude in his parent’s basement, the Chinese Communist Party, FSB, Saudi Arabia, the Rosacrucians or the Coca Cola Company? We are supposed to be happy Twitter has an open API but I cannot find how anybody can make an argument on Twitter

    But Betty, then you put up these three videos!!! With these three, we are obviously winning. It’s old fashioned. Existential. FORTHWITH!!! They are beautiful to see.

    No kidding. That Senator Brian Schatz. You can see he is very high in midiChlorians. Wow. He smoothed and combed Hawley’s horse and then fed him a carrot. And then you put up Chris Murphy as your third choice, making an irrefutable argument for love. What a great morale boost!!! We don’t have to play language games. Although the GOP throws chaff and fictions to make it impossible to have criteria for meaningfulness to judge whether propositions agree with reality, there is another aspect of truth, which is how truth can have an existential sense of revealing a way of seeing through plain, artful communication. People need to try to have soul. I think it works to speak directly to things. I’m glad our party is foregrounding sharp. This is a good job on all three of their parts in my opinion.

  85. 85.

    Brachiator

    @wetzel:

    We are dogs beaten by their previous owners. We learned our helplessness from Reagan.

    Bullshit. The only thing I learned from Reagan is that some hair dye might make you stupid.

  89. 89.

    Sure Lurkalot

    @Baud:

    New York Democratic Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, a member of House Democratic leadership, said the best thing Democrats can do is ignore the attack and focus on the pocketbook issues that polls show Americans care about the most—and the big reason Democrats are in a bleak position heading into this fall’s midterm elections.

    “I don’t even really pay attention to anything she says because she has nothing rational to say. It seems to me to be a ridiculous allegation,” Jeffries told VICE News when asked about Greene’s remarks.

    “We’re focused right now on getting things done for everyday Americans: lowering costs, addressing gas prices, and inflation. They can continue to peddle lies and conspiracy theories,” he said.

  90. 90.

    Raven

    @Baud:

    We are destructive and sick, pathetic and lying, radically liberal, bureaucraticly shallow and most of all traitors,

  91. 91.

    schrodingers_cat

    @sab: This was immediately after India had aided the British war effort in the Great War. From Ypres to Galipoli and beyond Indian soldiers served in the British Indian Army and died far away from home. They are whitewashed in most of the Hollywood retellings of the history.

  92. 92.

    Raven

    The man suspected of shooting 10 people on a subway train in Brooklyn on Tuesday called in a tip to Crime Stoppers that led to his capture Wednesday, two law enforcement sources told CNN.

  99. 99.

    Joe Falco

    You’re definitely telling on yourself when you won’t spell the Democratic Party correctly.

  102. 102.

    Geminid

    @Raven: The voluble commenter is from the Peach state. I read his densely packed screeds in hopes that he’ll give up some bass fishing secrets.

  103. 103.

    Sure Lurkalot

    @Baud: Please know I like Hakeem Jeffries, I would vote for him enthusiastically and be happy to have him as my representative.

    But am I misunderstanding what he said? He seemed quite clear that he doesn’t pay attention to the conspiracy theories because they’re “ridiculous allegations”.

    Maybe he can stay in the pocketbook issue lane and others can push back on the rhetoric but I don’t think it can be ignored. It’s dangerous.

  104. 104.

    Baud

    @Sure Lurkalot:

    He didn’t ignore it.  He called it ridiculous, lies, and conspiracy theories. He also said she wasn’t rational.  All true and appropriate responses.

    ETA: Absolutely nothing controversial about it.  Not worthy of discussion.

  105. 105.

    Queen of Lurkers

    @schrodingers_cat: Have you seen the movie Sardar Udham? Wasn’t that great a movie, but it made me read up on the history of the guy who took “revenge” against Gen. Dwyer.

  106. 106.

    wetzel

    @Raven:

    If only our vision included sharing, change, and opportunity, a real legacy of moral courage, reform leading to prosperity, a crusade, a movement, for children, for family, then we would be more competitive.

  108. 108.

    Geminid

    @Sure Lurkalot: Jeffries was one of three Representatives who served on the Democratic Caucus Communications Committee advising candidates on messaging for the 2018 midterms. Their guidance was to pound two issues hard: the “trillion dollar tax giveaway” to corporations and the wealthy; and the neccesity to protect the Affordable Care Act and its provisions vital to people’s very survival, such as the protections for people with preexisting conditions.

    House Democrats picked up 40 seats in 2018, and that may not have been a coincidence. This doesn’t neccesarily mean that Jeffries is right on this matter, but he does has a track record in this area.

  110. 110.

    Betty Cracker

    @Sure Lurkalot: FWIW, I agree. Dems don’t have to focus on the bullshit all the time, but when someone tees it up like that? Yeah, push back. Hard. Mention that this theme is from a deranged cult that believes in Jewish space lasers and the return of (very dead) JFK Jr.

  115. 115.

    Tokyokie

    I drink a lot of Topo Chico, a Mexican sparkling mineral water (although Coca-Cola bought it a few years ago). And when I say a lot, I mean probably about 3 liters a day of the stuff. But because of the guv’s actions, it has become scarce on grocery shelves in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. (Only the local grocery chain HEB had when the spousal unit looked for it today.) So I say, “¡Topo Chico, sí! ¡Matadero, no!”

  116. 116.

    Geminid

    @Raven: I hope to fish the Shenandoah River next week and I want bring my “A game.” So thank you for your pragmatic advice.

     

    @wetzel: And you too!

  117. 117.

    Ksmiami

    @Baud: Hit them fucking hard and then hit them again… I want Biden to stop saying he has friends in the GOP… the party needs to be stopped

  119. 119.

    prostratedragon

    @Sure Lurkalot:  From the quote it doesn’t sound like he necessarily was speaking to a choice of issues, but to a specific person’s remarks (invective). Was is MTG or someone? I could kind of see wanting to speak against anti-gay (etc.) rhetoric and violence without having to respond every time she in particular pops off, since part of what she’s doing is inciting people against a devil of her choosing so they don’t notice the one that’s actually stealing their bread.

  121. 121.

    gene108

    @cain:

    I think that was what made Gandhi go hardcore.

    Also, the Rowlatt Acts shocked the INC to push for total independence, because India had whole heartedly supported Britain during WW1, with the expectation of gaining Dominion status in return.

    1.3 million Indian soldiers served in WW1 for the British. India gifted £100 million to help fund the war effort, along with whatever rationing and taxation the Indian people had to endure, as a result of the war.

  122. 122.

    Tazj

    It seems as if Democrats have to repeatedly say “pocket book issues”, and “kitchen table!” In order to maintain some sort of legitimacy with the media and Real America. The media will say but Americans don’t care about whatever, they care about their POCKET BOOKS!!

    It seems to be assumed for no reason at all that Republicans care about Americans more when their only solution to everything is lower taxes for rich people and business owners.

    Anyway, I’m glad that Jen Psaki brought up the Texas governor and his antics at the press conference. I didn’t know about it and it’s something Democrats should bring up every day.

  123. 123.

    prostratedragon

    Now here’s something:

    Fox Pride denounces statements made regarding sexual orientation and gender identity on FOX News in the past week.

    This was the opening of a statement on FOX News employees Slack channel. Evidently Fox Pride is an organized club within the staff. More power to them, but I have to wonder how they feel about some of the other spewings of their employer.

    ETA: Whoops, forgot the link.

  124. 124.

    A Ghost to Most

    If the district in question includes Carlisle and surroundings, I would call it a lost cause. We ran screaming from that area, and wife’s relatives there, in 2009.

  126. 126.

    Jeffro

    THIS.  All of this.

    This is what we’re asking for when we ask Dems to ‘throw punches’.

    Fire up the base.  Point out the scummy, lowlife Rs for what they are.  Call it out.

  128. 128.

    Ohio Mom

    @Raven: The version of the story I heard is that a fellow named Zack recognized the shooter and called over some police who were walking by.

    https://abc7ny.com/amp/zack-tahhan-nyc-subway-shooting-frank-james-brooklyn/11745173/

    (One day maybe I’ll learn how to embed links).

    Maybe both versions are true? The police were walking in that area because of the shooter’s called-in tip and Zack noticed him first? Of course the cops could give this concerned citizen at least partial credit but that’s not in their nature.

    In other ways too, NYC cops did not covered themselves in any glory here. Despite their huge budget and presence in the subway, they didn’t prevent this or stop it midway; critical security cameras were not working; right after the shooting they asked bystanders to call 911 because their communication devices were not working.

    Most of what the cops do in the subway is arrest teenagers who turnstile jump (that could have been me back in the day!) and terrorize homeless people.

    Anyway, Sunset Park, Brooklyn is one of the places Ohio Family will be visiting during our NYC trip in May. But we will be driving that day.

  129. 129.

    wetzel

    If you include the illegitimate electors and their state-by-state felonious conspiracies, the web of schemers, plotters, interlocutors, traitors, sycophants, enforcers and kingpins, bigwig GOP people soon to be under federal indictment  Raskin recently intimated would like exceed 1000. How wonderful this summer to have the public hearings. Nothing like court TV!!! Tune in next week for Kate Mcinhwatshername!!!! Gym Jordan in the witness stand!!!

    People are worrying too much. Normally we are messaging back and forth and it’s hard. This season, the GOP took it to the plane of action. They left the democratic ritual. So it stays on the plane of action as a criminal matter. The Jan 6. committee and the Dept. of Justice have the full force of law to investigate and, for the DOJ, to prosecute. There’s no ‘Hunter Biden’s laptop’ story on Facebook that’s going to matter when we start seeing the criminal conspiracy presented to the American people and the GOP’s panicked death rattle. They will change their name back to the Whigs by October.

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    Ohio Mom

    @schrodingers_cat: We exchange the Soda Stream cartridges at Target, they are about $30 each and according to their website, each cartridge makes about 60 liters. But that is for very fizzy shelter, you can stretch it further.

    Ohio Dad, the family mathematician says we were spending a lot more on seltzer, though we did end up buying a Brita water filter because our hard water made terrible tasting seltzer. So that cost has to be added in — which I don’t remember off the top of my head.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Moar voter fraud…

    Orlando Sentinel @orlandosentinel
    Two men from The Villages admit to casting multiple ballots in 2020 election

    According to the pre-trial intervention documents, the prosecution of Barnes, 64, and Ketcik, 63, will be deferred if they abide by a series of court-ordered requirements set by the office of Ocala-based State Attorney Bill Gladson. Court records show the men will avoid further punishment if they regularly meet with a supervising officer, complete 50 hours of community service and attend a 12-week adult civics class, among a handful of other requirements.
    In December, Ketcik, along with Joan Halstead and John Rider, who also reside in The Villages, was arrested on voter fraud charges for casting more than one vote during the 2020 election, according to police affidavits. Halstead, 71, and Rider, 61, are still awaiting trial. Both have pleaded not guilty. …

    State voter records show Barnes and Rider are not affiliated with a political party in Florida. Ketcik and Halstead are registered Republicans.

    I think I can guess….

     

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    wetzel

    @Geminid: Hey no fair. I’ve been a lurker here for twenty years! I’m good for twenty comments at Reddit a year. I used to comment at Kos and a place called Plastic. I would comment at SongTown occasionally, but that place is a henhouse.

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    Omnes Omnibus

    Wait, wasn’t I told just this morning that the Democrats don’t do this kind of thing?  It must have been some other blog.  That’s it.

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