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Late Night Open Thread: Snippets Concerning Ukraine

by Anne Laurie|  May 25, 20226:15 am| 24 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, War in Ukraine

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In a video address at the World Economic Forum in #Davos, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said President Vladimir Putin was the only Russian official he was willing to meet with to discuss how to end the war https://t.co/Ezqpphjie3 pic.twitter.com/EwlRFXnBUM

— Reuters (@Reuters) May 24, 2022

 

Adam is irreplaceable, of course, but I can share a few things that turn up in my aggregation sweeps…

Ukraine's Zelenskiy urges allies to pressure Moscow on prisoner swap https://t.co/RR2BzUkEL0 pic.twitter.com/cbXzqHV0vy

— Reuters (@Reuters) May 24, 2022

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called for “maximum” sanctions against Russia for invading his country as he addressed the World Economic Forum in Davos by video link.

More: https://t.co/Jt3prTGDgo pic.twitter.com/1llgh0zRe1

— AP Europe (@AP_Europe) May 23, 2022

This is your occasional reminder that: a) Zelensky made offers along these lines and Putin rebuffed them; and b) even if Russia loses badly it will not be humiliated. https://t.co/k2Ap3mkfn0 https://t.co/23sV4HN73h

— Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) May 24, 2022

Appearing on Russian state TV, head of RT Margarita Simonyan explained why Russia isn't nuking Ukraine: not because it's wrong, but because it's not practical. They want those territories usable and don't want to kill all inhabitants—only some of them—and need to sort them first. pic.twitter.com/wfe6cgPKiu

— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) May 23, 2022

 

Somebody has decided it’s better to be on the right side of history…

Russian diplomat quits in protest at "bloody, witless" war in Ukraine https://t.co/7PEQgLu4xS

— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) May 24, 2022

Truly amazing quote from the email a Russian diplomat sent to his colleagues to explain his resignation. https://t.co/CmweCXFWtm pic.twitter.com/m38Xo8vMg1

— Justin Vogt (@Justin_Vogt) May 24, 2022

 

Not this fekkin’ guy, though:

Dude should be roasting in Hell telling Satan to cede part of Heresy to Violence https://t.co/6GdCfEKyUa

— HatKicksSandOnDershReaders (@Popehat) May 24, 2022

Hell doesn’t want him, and Heaven won’t have him…

Wake me up when he dies. https://t.co/b6TlIG13mQ

— Jort-Michel Connard 🐘 (@torriangray) May 24, 2022

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24Comments

  1. 1.

    Fifi Chu

    May 25, 2022 at 2:36 am

    The religious pundits should have been fired from the very beginning. Remember the game telephone? Humans, are the worst. I’m too old to want a website.

  2. 2.

    Ninedragonspot

    May 25, 2022 at 3:02 am

    Not a whole lot of daylight between Kissinger and Chomsky these days.

  3. 3.

    Chetan Murthy

    May 25, 2022 at 3:46 am

    Ninedragonspot: jesus, you’re so right! I wonder if Noam has second thoughts, upon seeing ol’ Henry agreeing with him?

  4. 4.

    eclare

    May 25, 2022 at 4:23 am

    Great roundup! Thanks. I wonder where that diplomat is now….maybe there is a spare room at one of the Vindman’s.

  5. 5.

    p.a.

    May 25, 2022 at 6:07 am

    Shouldn’t it read, “Former U.S. secretary of state and acknowledged war criminal…”?

  6. 6.

    geg6

    May 25, 2022 at 6:15 am

    War criminal Kissinger stanning for war criminal Putin.

  7. 7.

    Rich2506

    May 25, 2022 at 6:18 am

    Really good letter here to Noam Chomsky and the NY Times that demonstrates just how out of touch they both. are. https://blogs.berkeley.edu/2022/05/19/open-letter-to-noam-chomsky-and-other-like-minded-intellectuals-on-the-russia-ukraine-war/

  8. 8.

    Baud

    May 25, 2022 at 6:24 am

    ‘@Rich2506

    Excellent stuff. I like the “Warmest Regards” at the end.

    I hate when people are more committed to their paradigm than reality.

  9. 9.

    Baud

    May 25, 2022 at 6:52 am

    ‘@Ninedragonspot

     May 25, 2022 at 3:02 AM

    Not a whole lot of daylight between Kissinger and Chomsky these days.
    ____________________

    Interesting to contemplate how both of them would be praising Trump’s handling of Ukraine had he won in 2020.

  10. 10.

    Ohio Mom

    May 25, 2022 at 7:02 am

    What happened to Adam, where did he go? Miss him.

  11. 11.

    Gin & Tonic

    May 25, 2022 at 7:08 am

    Two ancient has-beens.

  12. 12.

    Anne Laurie

    May 25, 2022 at 7:19 am

    ‘@Ohio Mom: What happened to Adam, where did he go? Miss him.

    You certainly are not the only one!

    Pure speculation on my part, but: (1) He’s probably kinda busy with IRL work-related projects right now; and

    (2) This work-in-progress standby site is *not* easy to navigate when you’re using tons of links, graphics, and embeds; Adam might just be waiting & hoping that the situation settles down soon.

  13. 13.

    Ohio Mom

    May 25, 2022 at 7:50 am

    Anne Laurie, thanks.

  14. 14.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    May 25, 2022 at 7:55 am

    Most people weren’t alive when Kissinger was SoS and they think he has the hot take.

  15. 15.

    RubberDuck

    May 25, 2022 at 8:33 am

    I think they’ve always held fairly compatible beliefs. It’s the system, maaaannn……

    This is a war of choice, made by a foolish, small minded person, whose brain was cooked by too much Great Patriotic War B-movie bullshit.

    Only a homicidal nut looks at the horror of the Russian WW2 experience, and decides that is what his undeserving citizens require.

    Putin would have ended up dead in a Belarusian field circa 1941, done in by his own guys.

  16. 16.

    debbie

    May 25, 2022 at 8:46 am

    ‘@ Rich2506:

    Similarly, the Kiev Independent responded to the NYT’s editorial about compromising:

    https://kyivindependent.com/opinion/editorial-the-kyiv-independents-response-to-the-new-york-times-editorial-board/

  17. 17.

    Barry

    May 25, 2022 at 8:47 am

    Chetan: “Ninedragonspot: jesus, you’re so right! I wonder if Noam has second thoughts, upon seeing ol’ Henry agreeing with him?”

    That would require both self-awareness and integrity.

  18. 18.

    RubberDuck

    May 25, 2022 at 9:39 am

    Projection on the nuclear front.

    Putin is a bad faith actor and shit weasel.

    Putinists have always assumed Ukraine lied about non-proliferation. Because that’s what they would do.

    They’re afraid Moscow will get hit if they go full on stoopid.

  19. 19.

    debbie

    May 25, 2022 at 10:12 am

    Wrong thread.

  20. 20.

    Calouste

    May 25, 2022 at 10:25 am

    Of course Zelenskyy doesn’t want to talk to any one else but Putin. Putin sees Ukraine as a vassal state at best, and vassals don’t get to talk to the top boss on an equal footing.

  21. 21.

    Jinchi

    May 25, 2022 at 10:26 am

    ‘@Baud: “ Interesting to contemplate how both of them would be praising Trump’s handling of Ukraine had he won in 2020”

    TFG would have signed an agreement ceding Ukraine to Russia in the first few months of his second term. We probably wouldn’t notice because he’d be busy shredding our NATO membership and arresting Democrats for treason against the king.

  22. 22.

    PaulB

    May 25, 2022 at 12:07 pm

    Out of curiosity, historically speaking, has offering appeasement to someone like Putin ever led to long-term stability? In my (admittedly limited) knowledge, I don’t think it ever has. It simply emboldened the aggressor to move on to the next target.

    I’m also puzzled by the insistence on the part of some that Russia cannot be defeated. If we’re talking about seeing Ukrainian troops marching into Moscow, that’s certainly true. But if we’re talking about the removal of Russian troops from occupied territories in Ukraine, the evidence to date suggests that Russia is most definitely beatable. And that it would be in the best interest of Ukraine, Europe, and indeed the rest of the world if it were to be defeated.

    I’m struggling to understand the view that we should stop supporting Ukraine and force it to hand over a substantial part of its territory to Russia. The bad-faith actors I get and can easily ignore but some of this is coming from people I would normally be listening to. What am I missing?

  23. 23.

    J R in WV

    May 25, 2022 at 12:20 pm

    The ” Open Letter ” to Chomsky is wonderful! Filled with facts which contradict most of Chomsky’s points, well written and logical.

    I now have about the same respect for Professor Chomsky as I have for noted war criminal Kissinger.

    Note that my tablet volunteered “Kissinger” after I typed “noted war criminal” — so my tablet is better informed than the FTFNYT!

  24. 24.

    Lacuna Synecdoche

    May 25, 2022 at 3:07 pm

    PaulB:

    “Out of curiosity, historically speaking, has offering appeasement to someone like Putin ever led to long-term stability? In my (admittedly limited) knowledge, I don’t think it ever has. It simply emboldened the aggressor to move on to the next target.”

    I can’t speak for all of history, but Putin has already shown that appeasing him will not work. He has de facto control of Crimea, after invading in 2014, and now he wants Eastern Ukraine.

    Plus, Putin has already made plain his desire to takeover all of Ukraine. As soon he has full control of Luhansk and Donetsk, he’ll use them as staging grounds to push westward, further into Ukraine.

    Appeasement is completely useless under these circumstances, and the Russian government, as currently constituted, cannot be trusted to abide by any agreement or treaty.

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