https://twitter.com/RMConservative/status/1530251360020713472
By the time Tucker Carlson does his next show — if not sooner — it’ll be received TROOF among the ammosexuals that the Uvalde massacre was sparked when filthy anti-freedom lie-brals gave an unhinged teenager a gun he wasn’t man enough to handle…
Funny that. Daniel Defense offers financing and even suggests spending the whole 15k on ammo and accessories! https://t.co/CXBKIR8awj pic.twitter.com/apUVuezszR
— Atticus Goldfinch (@AtticusGF) May 28, 2022
Soul-cleanser thread:
Today marks two weeks since a white supremacist slaughtered 10 Black people at a Tops Supermarket in Buffalo. Here is a 🧵 of Black-led orgs that have been on the ground supporting the East Side community since May 14th. They could still really use your financial support. 👇🏿
— J Coley (They/Them) (@JColey716) May 28, 2022
raven
Daniel Defense has a really nice Thoughts and Prayers popped on their website. spit
trollhattan
I worked at a place where an employee accumulated several credit cards, quit, traveled around the world, returned to the States and declared bankruptcy.
Guessing getting a gun in Texas can be done more easily than that. “No money down!!!” chanted the car/drug/gun dealer. Okay, drug dealer probably wants cash.
Raven
trollhattan The dealer is here in Georgia.
HinTN
‘@ raven – agree! Fuckers
Scout211
We lived in Stockton California when Patrick Purdy used an assault rifle to murder 9 children and wound 32 as he opened fire on the playground of Cleveland school in 1989.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Elementary_School_shooting_(Stockton)
There was so much national attention focused on that mass murder of school children (Southeast Asian immigrants) that money poured in to help the school and the families recover and heal. Even Michael Jackson showed up. A California assault weapons ban was passed in response.
Now these horrible massacres happen so often that donations and attention and help seem momentary and fleeting because there is yet another horrible tragedy and another one right after.
Abbott announced that an “anonymous donor” will pay for the cost all of the funerals for the dead in Uvalde. A donor? Couldn’t he find $175,000 in the state funds somewhere?
Sigh. This is just all too much.
Yutsano
‘@Scout111
“Abbott announced that an “anonymous donor” will pay for the cost all of the funerals for the dead in Uvalde. A donor? Couldn’t he find $175,000 in the state funds somewhere? ”
More than likely not. I don’t know what Texas spends its money on besides roads, but paying to bury brown ones isn’t in the budget.
NeenerNeener
Matthew McConaughey grew up in Uvalde and there is speculation that he’s the anonymous donor covering the cost of the funerals.
SpaceUnit
I’m starting to think that maybe this isn’t what the authors of the 2nd Amendment had in mind.
Baud
Probably bought it with gun stamps.
columbusqueen
Matthew M. is an actual human being, unlike that psychotic jellyfish Abbott.
JanieM
The sick gall of naming a company that sells weapons of war for people to use on school children “Defense” is beyond parody. I would like to give Daniel Defense it’s proper / accurate name from among something like the following (pretend the X’s represent the html for double strikethrough):
Daniel XDefenseX Massacre
Daniel XDefenseX Slaughter
Daniel XDefenseX Devastation
Daniel XDefenseX Of the Hollow Prayers
Daniel XDefenseX Damned
SpaceUnit
‘@Baud:
Don’t give them any more ideas.
debbie
Can’t Daniel be sued like Remington was for its marketing practices?
JPL
Imagine Congress passing a law that weapons must be cash only. How quickly would the Supreme Court strike that because the founding fathers used chickens and corn.
JPL
‘@debbie, I think the company will be, which is why they removed their most offensive pictures.
debbie
‘@Scout211:
“Anonymous” tells me it’s a GOP deep-pocketed gun lover. I’d refuse the money unless the donor self-identified.
debbie
‘@ JPL: Good.
Geminid
‘@Raven: I’m wondering if you paid much attention to that Republican Secretary of State primary. I was surprised Raffensperger beat Hice and even avoided a runoff. Was Hice overconfident? Or does he just suck?
zhena gogolia
‘@SpaceUnit: Ya think?
Hope Scalia is enjoying a weenie roast right now.
JPL
‘@Geminid, I didn’t want to cross over and vote republican so I sat out the election. I assumed that I would vote for Raffensperger in the runoff. Now I’m cleared to vote in the democratic runoff for Bee Nguyen for SOS.
SpaceUnit
‘@zhena gogolia:
On the other hand, I’d let them keep their muzzleloading muskets and flintlock pistols. I’m a reasonable guy.
Kay
Daniel Defense isn’t making the loan.
“Credova” is actually Montery Financial with is a notorious predatory lender:
“BattleHawk offers financing through Cordova who sells your loan to Monterey Financial, Battlehawk should remove these finance
companies from their website, these finance companies use unscrupulous tactics to rip you off and steal your money by the
deceptive advertising practices. They offer 90 days same as cash, I was
approved several months ago through a different Firearms dealer and paid off the gun before the 90 days. I went through the same Finance
company both times, the second time I thought it was the same deal
because on BattleHawk website it says 90 days same as cash, by the
time I realized it was already too late and I ended up paying close to
double for the gun in just over 30 days. Battlehawk should remove the
deceptive advertising!”
It gets worse. Credova also has a “lease” program so you would be leasing the gun (or any other item they financed)
But the 18 year old didn’t finance the gun, because you have to be 21 to enter into the predatory contract.
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/finance/monterey-financial-services.html
opiejeanne
‘@debbie. I don’t think that’s why the donation is anonymous. It’s considered better to donate quietly rather than to say, “Aren’t I great for doing this?”
As for turning down the money, these people would probably be cleaning out what little they have saved to bury their loved ones.
Bex
‘@Scout211 Abbott took it out of state mental health fund. Amount left in the fund is now $1.34.
JPL
‘@Kay, Yesterday I read that he asked his sister to buy a gun for him a year ago and she refused. If that’s true, he’s been saving for a while.
debbie
‘@ opiejeanne: I totally understand what you are saying, but I wouldn’t want to accept blood money for my child’s funeral. ♀️
Anonymous At Work
Daniel Defense seems to have owned the gun that killed the kids and teachers and it negligently loaned the gun to the murderer. I’m pretty sure a local jury will be interested in that reading of the law.
lowtechcyclist
Since it’s an open thread, I’m sitting out on my back deck in the cool of this sweet evening on the borderline between spring and summer, just enjoying the heck out of this perfect weather after yesterday’s wind and rain.
I just remembered that today is the 45th anniversary of the first time I went to see a baseball game in Fenway Park, and boy howdy, was it ever a Fenway sort of game. The KC Royals were visiting, and took a 10-4 lead in the top of the 5th. (Tiant started, but didn’t have his good stuff that day. They relieved him with Mike Paxton, who did even worse.) But the Sox scored the next 13 (!) runs, and that pretty much settled it.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BOS/BOS197705280.shtml
Kay
“Shelley
April 23, 2022 • @sakking001
Beware of them attaching your digital signature to forms and documents you didn’t authorize, like signing up for 6mo no interest and at month 6 you find out it’s a lease and you still owe more that you’ve pd so you’re paying over double and then an additional fee to keep it. Never again”
savoy613
“March 18, 2021 • @savoy613
Do not use this service they loan out and then it becomes a lease and you are on the hook for double the value of what you just purchased. Stay away go elsewhere.”
It “becomes a lease”. I could weep.
Kay
And you see this. You see people who make 40k a year who have “80k” in guns, but of course it’s no longer “80k in guns” because the country is indundated with guns and they’re never going to be able to sell it to recoup what they paid.
There are 22 million assault rifles. They could never make another one and easily meet demand just by selling them to each other.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2021/03/25/us-has-at-least-20-million-assault-rifles-a-ban-wouldnt-reduce-that-number/?sh=795848064978
opiejeanne
‘@Kay, how can it just magically become a lease?
debbie
Lending guns is just fucking sick. I wonder if the CFPB can do anything about this.
Jay S in WA
It will be interesting to see where the money came from to buy the guns and ammo. Daniel Defence is only credited with one gun, the one that was used in the school shooting. The second gun that was left behind wasn’t ID’ed in anything I read so far. The purchase was made or at least finalized by a local Texas dealer. $2000 for the one used, probably around $4000 for everything. The guns were purchased days apart. The number of magazines should have raised flags with the dealer(s). Just turned 18? There was some mention of birthday money, but this much?
Kay
And gun nuts always think the guns in estates are worth more than they are, so they give you these ridiculous estimates – “well, his gun collection is worth 10k”. It’s like a fucking used lawnmower. There’s a million of them.
The only people who are more ridiculous with estimating value are people who “estimate” what department store jewelry is worth. If they made TEN MILLION of them you’re not getting back what you paid.
If yiu like collecting invest in Snap On Tools. They hold value and they’re actually useful.
Jay S in WA
“@Kay, how can it just magically become a lease?”
The comment basically said they misrepresented the terms implying that a lease is a loan. Buried in the fine print of the online agreement.
Of course this is an internet comment so truth and accuracy are not assured.
Jay S in WA
I am not in the new or used gun market but I believe that the current market is still frothy enough to get your money back. Someday the fever will break but I don’t think that’s true today.
Baud
Clearly, what we need to do is flood the market with even more guns so we can break the gunhumpers financially.
debbie
At TFG’s WY rally: Overflowing. //
https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/1530673292268318722?s=20&t=RcRfHwRgdjPzJTsLQLA6iw
Feathers
Since the thread is discussing soccer/football and cats are always appreciated, I think this might be a nice palate cleanser: https://twitter.com/yoda4ever/status/1530251236800274432?s=21&t=0Bl1HR161NtaRgRpxWkCRw
smedley the uncertain
‘@zhena gogolia: I dunna Know, them automated muzzle loaders can get off a few quick rounds.
debbie
‘@ Feathers:
Could that cat defend from this *animal*?
https://twitter.com/PerezEd/status/1527423476499369985?s=20&t=bC3yLFmdYX1mmtqvbzM4nA
Rick Guhl
I gave to several of the organizations in Buffalo. Given the poverty of the area. They could use the support.
Feathers
‘@debbie Now I’m curious if cats will avoid objects if they are coming in too fast. I must imagine that is the case, but never heard or read anything about it.
BellyCat
‘@JPL: “ chickens and corn”.
Seems like the proper currency to enforce today, as well.
debbie
‘@Feathers:
I believe I’ve seen TikToks where they have, but I didn’t save any.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Baud @ “Clearly, what we need to do is flood the market with even more guns so we can break the gunhumpers financially.”
OMG, it just occurred to me, they are just trying another Bubble like the Home Loans with guns.
Geminid
‘@JPL: I read that a number of Democrats crossed over and voted for Kemp and Raffensperger. The Washington Post had an article on Raffensperger’s win. It said that he drove all over Georgia and spoke to any group of Republicans he could, even if it was only 6 people.
I was somewhat surprised by the primary results. It seems that Georgia’s Republicans were less radicalized than those of Ohio and Pennsylvania.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Kay @ Not to mention that AR-15 aren’t keep up with inflation. Friend of mine bought and AR-15 in 1980s because he was in the National Guard and wanted to use it for target practice and paid pretty much what they are going for today. AR-15’s kept up with inflation they would $4K USD.
That might be away to get around the court nonsense – ban the EZ loans and regulate and tax the manufacturing to get the price up.
Another Scott
‘@JS in WA – AlJazeera:
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He left lots of clues, and investigators need to follow every lead. What did he buy in March, and from whom did he buy it? Where did he get all the ammo, and from who? It looks like 30 round mags are around $10-$20 a piece, plus the cost of the rounds. It looks like 1000 rounds of ammo is around $400.
He had a lot of stuff with him that cost a lot of money. Just the ammo and magazines was around $1400 (at todays prices according to a quick Google search).
Lots and lots of questions need to be answered…
Grrr…,
Scott.
Soprano2
‘@Kay 8:21; And big flat screen TV’s. I’ve had people say to me that the poor people who bought big screens with their pandemic money would rather sell them than work. Hell, we’ve had people try to give them to us for the bar! You can’t sell them for much at all, because new ones are so cheap, but conservatives are convinced poor people are selling them for money to live on.
HumboldtBlue
Is quiche a pie?
opiejeanne
‘@HumboldtBlue,
Yes, it is a savory egg and cheese pie.
lowtechcyclist
https://twitter.com/i/lists/1494877848087187461
‘Russian invader’ figurines produced by a Japanese company. Shows them carrying off toilet bowls and radiator fixtures.
Skookum in Oly
I am frustrated by Abbott’s reference to an anonymous donor. Does nobody realize the State of Texas already has a funeral fund for these victims? Every state has money set aside for victims of violent crimes, sourced by general funds and federal grants. It’s generous and beautiful that someone stepped up anonymously, but the fact is the money is already there and dedicated, administered by the Texas AG under the Texas Crime Victims Compensation fund. I work the for WA version of the same. Every state has one.
oatler
Hot hemp!