I want this movie so bad https://t.co/10TNnfzMm7
— zeddy (@Zeddary) June 1, 2022
True story: Since a lot of our friends were serious Society for Creative Anachronism people, I’d been joking for years that if we ever *did* get married, I’d insist on a SCA-themed gown so that I actually could wear it again. (This had not yet become a cliche, in the early 1990s.) When the Spousal Unit’s dad finally called our bluff with an offer we couldn’t refuse, of course we planned to pay for the wedding party’s outfits: plain shirts and dark trousers with brocade vests matching his tunic; plain shifts & skirts with bodices from the same brocade as my dress.
The doyenne of our friend group was mildly horrified: “You’re dressing your escorts as serving wenches?!?“
plus you just know those guys take plagues more seriously than Red Lobster
— zeddy (@Zeddary) June 1, 2022
NotMax
Classical grooming.
;)
eclare
One of my cousins is in SOLAR, not SCA, because SCA requires charitable duties. He bought land to host whatever they do. It all seems weird to me.
oatler
I remember Medieval Times in Orlando in the 90s.and its “Arabian” variation.
Baud
They don’t strike. They joust.
NotMax
‘@Baud
That comes after the meal proper.
Joust desserts, as it were.
:·)
prostratedragon
A friend who had a scholarly interest in medieval culture sometimes went to SCA gatherings. Her detached amusement was kept at the ready, and occasionally deployed.
Narya
The wife of a friend of a friend does SCA. I got major points the first time I met her by knowing what it was and asking interested questions about her character, activities, etc. I have no interest in doing it but am genuinely interested.
NotMax
BTW, 522 error notice reared its head once more at approximately 2:40 to 3 a.m. blog time.
Nancy
@NotMax:
Perfect.
Appreciation with no desire to top your comment.
Tony Jay
Snigger all you want, Modtards, but when either the Y2K(+22) Bug brings down e-civilisation or a solar flare fries all the power grids or the microchips they put into bullets are activated or something equally bonkers happens, it’ll be the people who know which end of a falchion goes forwards and how to weave a superb cotehardie that bestride the fallen world like Cnihts of old.
History as it was meant to be, bicces.
raven
They used to do their thing on the Quad at the University of Illinois!
raven
@Tony Jay: Celebrating Her Majesty are we?
David ☘The Establishment☘ Koch
Happy anniversary to Elizabeth II, who was crowned Queen of Great Britain and the Commonwealth 70 years ago, today.
Baud
@David ☘The Establishment☘ Koch:
She’s seen some shit.
Geminid
@Baud: Yesterday someone brought up a recent retightening of Virginia’s cannabis laws, and I think you asked if some Democrats in the state Senate had defected on this issue. I read about this yesterday evening, and while the Washington Post article did not cover the actual vote, it detailed the retightening. Last spring the General Assembly kept possession of over a pound of cannabis a felony; anything under carried a civil penalty only. Under the revised law, possession of between 4 and 16 ounces will be a misdemeanor. Possession of 4 ounces or less will still carry only a civil penalty.
David ☘The Establishment☘ Koch
Now, more than ever, we need
gundoor controlNotMax
‘@Tony Jay
Quasi-obligatory?
:)
Baud
@Geminid:
Thanks. Why though?
David ☘The Establishment☘ Koch
Kay
Most of them are African American, two of them are wearing team jerseys.
MisterDancer
As someone who spent 20-something years in that “Medieval-esqe” space, I can go on at lenght about the difference between the SCA, Medieval Times, (most) Renn Fairs, etc. until your ears (rightly!) drop off.
I will say that being in the SCA directly led to me exploring my ability to research and think critically — including, eventually, about the SCA. And, to be frank, about my own history.
I think having spaces like that, where you’re encouraged to do layperson research and thinking, really makes a big difference — as flawed as the SCA can be.
We need more of them, in today’s world.
Baud
@David ☘The Establishment☘ Koch:
No matter how bad things get, I’ll never get tired of having a respectable president.
Baud
@Kay:
I hope they sue. Use Johnny Depp’s attorneys.
David ☘The Establishment☘ Koch
@Baud: I swear I avoid TV trials, but after six weeks of ignoring it I got sucked in last week by the darling alpacs that showed up to court dressed like pirates (photo). So I’ve been binge watching the last week and Depp’s attorney Camille Vasquez is a rock star (video)
Kay
@Baud:
Depp is a hero on the Right now. Everyone from Kyle Rittenhouse to the cast of Fox News to the House GOP have adopted him as their standard bearer.
Look for tens of appearances on Hunter Carlson, Joe Rogan and the anti-woke substack industry pages.
Gross.
Baud
@Kay:
I haven’t really followed the trial. I can see how Depp is a hero on the right. I don’t know if he has embraced that though. It would seem to be a bad move for him, but what do I know.
Kay
Baud
@David ☘The Establishment☘ Koch:
She looks Hollywood.
Baud
The Queen is on the balcony!!!
Geminid
@Baud: I did not follow the debate, if there was one. It could be that legislators were looking ahead to the establishment of licensed recreational cannabis stores, and wanted to defend the Commonwealth’s monopoly and tax revenues. I think the presumption was that anyone with more than a quarter pound of weed does not have it for personal use only and probably is a seller.
Baud
@Geminid:
Thanks.
David ☘The Establishment☘ Koch
@Kay:
Once they get pass the verdict, they’ll get back to hating him.
I’m surprised then didn’t support Amber Heard considering her relationship with wingnut Elon Musk
debbie
@Kay:
I doubt Depp appreciates their attention. He’s never displayed any RWNJ affectations.
Kay
Now there’s a negotiator. Perhaps another lie – the mayor seems especially unreliable- but isn’t this something Texas state investigators would have found out immediately? They left out the whole negotiator part of the timeline?
Kay
@debbie:
I don’t care about who celebrities back politically. That was a disgusting pile on and I loathe pile ons. His idiot, misogynist fans savaged her. If he’s anything like them the Right can have him.
debbie
O/T: Am I the only one who can’t find the “Contact a Front Pager” or even that hamburger thing where I think that used to reside?
BellyCat
@debbie: “hamburger” shows up in mobile (upper right), but no “contact a front pager” yet.
Bells and whistles to come, no doubt, amid this amazing rebuild.
MisterDancer
Fucking Goddamned Agreed. I wrote a comment elsewhere here on this asswipe of a situation:
Tony Jay
@raven:
‘Celebrating’ is perhaps the wrong word to use.
Loathing, maybe? Despise? That’s closer. Let’s use it in a sentence.
“I despise cold-blooded racists who exploit a glaring weakness at the heart of British democracy to amass vast wealth and unmatched privilege while tens of millions of ‘her subjects’ live squalid lives of hopeless misery.”
Yeah. That works for me.
Kay
@MisterDancer:
I feel like it’s special treatment for celebrities too. He’s a public figure. Isn’t the standard for defamation supposed to be incredibly high? How did this case even get this far?
Well, now he’s the poster boy for a rabid band of online misygonists, so I guess he “won”. Couldn’t he have just written his own op ed in the Washington Post in response?
Tony Jay
@MisterDancer:
Seconded. I ignored the whole shitshow for the longest time because, what the fuck did I care about the marital problems of two pampered Hollywood celebs?
But the cynical, exploitative methods used by Depp’s team to basically relitigate the case he lost in London (minus any of the inconveniently damning evidence that won-by-proxy that case for Heard) have tipped my scales.
Basically, they went with a “if the bed was shit, you must convict” strategy to counteract the fact that Heard was a… how shall I put it… ‘physically sympathetic’ victim of spousal abuse, and it worked.
Fuck him. And fuck anyone I hear going on about “Johnnnnnnny”.
debbie
@BellyCat:
Thanks.
debbie
@MisterDancer:
You can carry this same sort of thing back to prurient trials in the 1930s and 1940s. It’s something about celebrity, maybe wanting to witness others’ fall from grace just to feel better about yourself. Only recently (relatively speaking) has it been weaponized for politics.
It’s not politics so much as it is us ourselves.
MisterDancer
I can always do history, I promise. :) What I’m saying is, this is a political blog. We’re at a critical, make-or-break point for American Democracy. We discuss here, daily, how media ignores much of what’s critical, and distorts too much else — when “media” isn’t being outright manipulative.
I feel like saying “oh, this is just how celebrity trials have worked since X” without understand how things are playing into the above, would be doing my role here, on this political blog, a disservice. We need to see how this specific trial has been used and abused for political gain and cultural setbacks, and not just shrug and go “welp, celebrities suck”.
So I ask some space and grace to let me, and others, process our anger on this, because it’s real. And the fears that this will have a chilling effect on abuse survivors is also real, and also part of why this specific trial has played out, in the way it has.
I get what I think you’re trying to say. And I’m saying there is a much bigger picture that needs to be addressed, and not just shuffled off into the “gossip” pile.
debbie
@MisterDancer:
Except that’s not what I’m saying. I’m not excusing any of it; I’m saying basically it’s what we are. But whatever.
MisterDancer
@debbie: I’m gonna set this aside as well. I’m not in a great headspace on any of this, and I’m clearly not understanding something about your approach.
Kay
@MisterDancer:
For me (and for you too, I suspect) it’s bigger than even abuse survivors. It’s my fear of a Rightward cultural shift that will be very bad for women. Just the glee in her public humiliation feels to me like more than this woman, or this set of facts. I don’t even follow celebrities and I barely watch movies- I watch tv shows, mostly. I’m raw from the rollback of basic legal rights- autonomy for women and now I get to watch this fucking witch burning greeted with absolute delight that he “won”.
SiubhanDuinne
@David ☘The Establishment☘ Koch:
Pedant here. She was crowned 69 years ago today (June 2, 1953), not 70. But she became Queen the second her father died, on February 6, 1952. Because February weather isn’t conducive to outdoor celebrations, her Official Birthday and Silver-Golden-Diamond-Platinum Jubilees always take place in early June.
Assuming she is still around a year from now, there will almost surely be a 70th anniversary of the Coronation itself — just a whole lot lower key than this weekend’s events.
I adore these big spectacles. Loved today’s Trooping the Colour. Loved the fly-past.
debbie
@SiubhanDuinne:
They had amazing weather today!
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
@Kay: This.
The mob-like savagery of the anti-Heard, anti-woman contingent was fucking scary. I get that it’s the internet and all, but this stuff absolutely bleeds into real life.
SiubhanDuinne
@debbie:
Yes, glorious! And Her Majesty looked very happy in the two balcony appearances.
Evinfuilt
I had a nice SCA wedding back in ’98, last time my wife worse some of her wedding “garb” was about five years ago. Now it’s all much too big for her (and I transitioned gender, doesn’t help as much…)
Still, really did enjoy getting a lot of use out of our wedding clothes. and gifting my garb a decade ago to others.
Bruce K in ATH-GR
@Formerly disgruntled in Oregon: You know what it reminds me of? Gamergate, all over again.
J R in WV
It will be a very cold day in Hell the next time I watch any vehicle with Depp in it. From Medicare policy commercials (Hi Joe Namath!) to TV reruns of his movies. Nothing, ever. Evil bastard to have gone to court over it, after having mistreated her.
So disappointed to see people celebrating his lawyer, his “victory”, everything. A sick bastard.
WaterGirl
@debbie: @BellyCat:
Uh oh. I knew on Sunday that I still had to do the mobile menu but I wanted to get the site up.
Then it promptly fell out of my head until I read your comment.
It’s back on my list, toward the top. Sorry about that.