Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Within six months Twitter will be fully self-driving.

I really should read my own blog.

The arc of history bends toward the same old fuckery.

Jesus, Mary, & Joseph how is that election even close?

If senate republicans had any shame, they’d die of it.

Whatever happens next week, the fight doesn’t end.

Republicans don’t want a speaker to lead them; they want a hostage.

Everybody saw this coming.

He really is that stupid.

This has so much WTF written all over it that it is hard to comprehend.

Let’s finish the job.

The cruelty is the point; the law be damned.

I’ve spoken to my cat about this, but it doesn’t seem to do any good.

Let us savor the impending downfall of lawless scoundrels who richly deserve the trouble barreling their way.

Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.

The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

The words do not have to be perfect.

The worst democrat is better than the best republican.

Take your GOP plan out of the witness protection program.

Consistently wrong since 2002

Since when do we limit our critiques to things we could do better ourselves?

If you’re pissed about Biden’s speech, he was talking about you.

I’m sure you banged some questionable people yourself.

Authoritarian republicans are opposed to freedom for the rest of us.

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Local news station, KXLY:

Thirty-one people affiliated with the white nationalist group “Patriot Front” were arrested in downtown Coeur d’Alene Saturday.

Coeur d’Alene Police Chief Lee White said all 31 people are being charged with conspiracy to riot, which is a misdemeanor charge in Idaho. Police believe they were headed to riot at the Pride Festival…

White said they were alerted to the group thanks to an alert citizen who “saw something” and reported it. He said they developed probable cause to arrest those involved based on the gear they had. He said they were equipped with shields and other riot gear.

Police are still working to book all of those involved into jail but said those arrested traveled to North Idaho from Texas, Utah, Colorado, South Dakota, Illinois, Arkansas, Wyoming, Washington, Oregon and Virginia. One person was from Idaho…

Those arrested will make their first appearance in court on Monday.

Two other people were arrested at the Pride in the Park event; one for trespassing and another for disorderly conduct.

“*Not* from around here, except for that one loser.”

The KXLY report includes the names of some of those arrested…

All’s well that ends well!

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  2. 2.

    NotMax

    For any interested, reminder that the Tony awards will, for the first time, be aired live across all U.S. time zones today on CBS (and Paramount +). 8 p.m. Eastern, 7 Central, 6 Mountain, 5 Pacific, and wonder of wonders, 4 p.m. in Alaska and 2 p.m. in Hawaii.

    Only such type of program this old goat makes any effort to catch. The awards themselves and speeches are neither here nor there, I’ve always liked tuning in to glimpse excerpts from a variety of plays.

  3. 3.

    germy shoemangler

    If you're wondering why Patriot Front are being arrested, I'd wager that it's because Patriot Front is generally young guys in their who haven't yet ingratiated themselves with local law enforcement the way Proud Boys, 3Pers, and Oathkeepers have. pic.twitter.com/Ad19XndFnn
    — Chad Loder (@chadloder) June 11, 2022

  5. 5.

    Benw

    Why did they all pile into a U-Haul like that? If they’d driven 4-5 separate cars and just parked like normal people no one would’ve noticed. Fascists are fucking weird, man.

  8. 8.

    Wakeshift

    @Benw:

    cosplay SWAT van.

    That’s how they’ve seen it in the movies, that’s how they see themselves.

     

    ETA – now I’m laughing at myself because i can hear them chanting “hut, hut, hut, hut” as i imagine them piling awkwardly out of the truck and moving to take up position, a la the climax scene in Blues Brothers

  10. 10.

    NotMax

    ‘@Benw

    If they’d driven 4-5 separate cars

    Gas prices, don’tcha know.

    //

    Which, BTW, have not yet reached a previous spike from not all that long ago.

    While the [national average] $5 mark is new, Americans paid more for gasoline back in July 2008, when inflation is considered. The high of $4.11 a gallon then would be equal to about $5.40 a gallon today. Source

  12. 12.

    OzarkHillbilly

    Police are still working to book all of those involved into jail but said those arrested traveled to North Idaho from Texas, Utah, Colorado, South Dakota, Illinois, Arkansas, Wyoming, Washington, Oregon and Virginia. One person was from Idaho…

    Outside agitators!

    I love the sheriff’s sense of understatement:

    “It appears these people did not come here to engage in peaceful events,”

  13. 13.

    Brachiator

    @NotMax:

    For any interested, reminder that the Tony awards will, for the first time, be aired live across all U.S. time zones today on CBS.

    When I lived on the East Coast years ago, I would at least read the drama reviews and go see a few plays, but now I just respect theater talent, but otherwise am totally out of the loop.

    I see some plays that are reworking of movies. Mrs Doubtfire. Mr Saturday Night. And lots of revivals.

    Hugh Jackman nominated for The Music Man. Cool. That Jackman guy has got loads of talent.

    The Girl From the North Country. Inspired by the music of some up and coming troubadour named Bob Dylan. Might like to see that excerpt.

  14. 14.

    Kay

    @Benw:

    They want anonymity and there are a group of people on the anti-fascist side who monitor them- photograph them and their vehicles and license plates, compare to photographs from other events they attend etc. If they arrive in a rented uhaul and cover their faces they’re harder to identify. That’s why they’re calling it an “unmasking”. Obviously backfired here but they intent was to remain anonymous.

  18. 18.

    Wag

    @Benw:    Dramatic entrance at the Festival, with 30 guys leaping in unison from the back of the truck?   ‍♂️

  19. 19.

    geg6

    @Brachiator:

    My niece and her best friend are heading to NYC in a couple of weeks and have tickets to see The Music Man with Jackman.  She is beyond excited.  Both of them are theater kids, with her friend actually majoring in theater in college.  They have tickets for something else, but I forget which show.

  22. 22.

    Betty Cracker

    ProPublica did an in-depth article on Patriot Front a few years back. Since they’re a white supremacist group, members are virulently racist, anti-immigrant and anti-Semitic. LGBTQ hatred has always been on their list of bigotries, but now that the Republican Party has fully embraced anti-LGBTQ policies as a wedge issue, we’ll probably see more focus on that.

  23. 23.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    Totally OT: I’m editing a draft and I came across a place where the characters suddenly started talking about a boy is tokening. He’s always been tokening, says another. He uses his token to manipulate people, says another. And I’m thinking, what the hell?

    Then it dawns on me. The character they’re talking about has a silver disc he wears on chain around his neck. At first I called it a charm. Then I globally changed that to token. So charming becomes tokening.

    The dangers of a global change!

  24. 24.

    germy shoemangler

    90s america, sowing: we'll crush all the factory worker unions by simply putting the factories in a different country, AND we'll get cheap imports because of it! two birds! nothing will ever go wrong here!

    2020s america, reaping: well this fucking sucks. what the fuck

    — Colin Spacetwinks (@spacetwinks) June 12, 2022

  26. 26.

    Brachiator

    More Tony trivia

    A Tony award is the final piece of the puzzle for Jennifer Hudson, who is on the verge of reaching EGOT status — or winning an Emmy, Grammy, Oscar and Tony. Hudson was a producer for A Strange Loop, which is nominated for best musical.

    Hudson has won a Daytime Emmy for her role as executive producer for Baby Yaga, Grammy awards for The Color Purple and her debut self-titled studio album, and an Oscar for best supporting actress in Dreamgirls.

    Wishing her luck.

  29. 29.

    Brachiator

    @Amir Khalid: 

    I’m kind of disappointed that Wolverine: The Musical never actually happened.

    That or Hugh Jackman starring in Logan!

    It could still happen.

  31. 31.

    Eric S.

    @Benw:  They are cosplaying. The U-Haul was their troop transport.

    ETA: I see Wakeshift in before with the shaw observation.

  34. 34.

    germy shoemangler

    When conservatives say “the left is silencing free speech” it’s bc they can’t handle a forum where 81yo Pulitzer winning career political commentators write 700 words about their bad opinions only to get immediately publicly eviscerated by a random gamer girl with 100 followers pic.twitter.com/SR81wz0Y00

    — Rob Sheridan (@rob_sheridan) June 11, 2022

  36. 36.

    Kay

    @Benw:

    From the Propublic article BC linked:

    The chats show some members regard Rousseau as a disciplined and effective spokesman for the group, and they appear to heed his repeated scoldings about preserving their anonymity. “The enemy cannot attack you if they do not know who you are,” Rousseau wrote. Using the pseudonym Samuel, a member from New York expanded on the idea in response.“I would say the biggest accomplishment of masking up is obfuscating our total numbers,” he wrote. “We can make them feel as if there are thousands of us when it’s only a few hundred, and we could be anyone and no one. Next time they are at the CVS and see a white kid with a neat haircut, it could be us. Fear of the unknown is the greatest fear of all.”

  37. 37.

    Baud

    @Kay:

    Next time they are at the CVS and see a white kid with a neat haircut,

     
    Tell me you’ve never been to a CVS without telling me you’ve never been to a CVS.

  38. 38.

    raven

    There’s a Pride Parade in Athens today and, apparently, there have been bible thumpers downtown tasing hell fro a couple of days.

  39. 39.

    germy shoemangler

    Patriot Front are accelerationist fascists who want to start a shooting war. The uniforms are deliberate, as is the masking, as are their symbols, as are their targets. I know we like to make fun of them but these people are very, very serious and dangerous.

    — Thomas Lecaque (@tlecaque) June 12, 2022

    A ton of their internal communications and documents got leaked–they are organized and trying to recruit and organize even more, in every state. Their goals are exactly what you'd expect–it's murder, the violent dismantling of the state, the overthrow of democracy.

    — Thomas Lecaque (@tlecaque) June 12, 2022

    We are lucky this group got arrested before they could attack the Pride rally. We're lucky that one of the leaders of it was there and is under arrest.

    But there are a lot of them, and again, they are organized.

    And they are just one distinctive group of many.

    — Thomas Lecaque (@tlecaque) June 12, 2022

  40. 40.

    Danielx

    Post gives me to wonder: wtf do these people do for a living that they can take time for interstate travel solely to make trouble? Or do they plan vacations around breaking heads and general assholery? Do they, like, get a stipend from somebody?

    If “assholery” isn’t a word, it should be.

  41. 41.

    Brachiator

    @geg6: 

    My niece and her best friend are heading to NYC in a couple of weeks and have tickets to see The Music Man with Jackman.

    Hope they have a great time.

  42. 42.

    brendancalling

    Every morning when i wake up, I check the BJ posts I may have missed. You’ll have to pardon my lack of commentary on the gay-hating Nazi scum of Coeur D’Alene, Idaho—I’m still trying to absorb the SEXN post without overloading my WTF capacitors.

  44. 44.

    Kay

    @Baud:

    Well, as the NY member said, there aren’t that many of them so they go to college campuses (for example) unmasked and do recruiting as a far Right wing political group but for the work of starting riots at Pride events they have to use the same set of people, except masked. Two roles, same people.

  46. 46.

    Ramalama

    @Brachiator: My gay uncles (married) moved from their most tony and gorgeous home in the Bay Area where they’d lived for a very long time, to the East Coast. Why? all of us relatives begged to know. We had this nugget in our brain that if things got too cold or boring in our spread out lives not on the West Coast…well, we could always go visit the uncles. Some of us panicked.

    The answer? “We wanted to be able to go to Broadway shows whenever we wanted without all the planning required.”

    There were other reasons too. But that’s the one that I think moved the needle. They’re elderly now. This is their bucket list.

  48. 48.

    germy shoemangler

    We finally saw the latest Batman movie and the Riddler is not portrayed as a giggling guy in a green derby and ? suit, but as an incel who develops a violent online following.  “Hey guys” he says in his videos for them (sounding like Donald Jr.) and they share information on the best gear and weapons. The Riddler always covers his face and uses software to distort and deepen his voice.

    When he’s finally captured we see that he’s just a mousy little guy (great performance by Paul Dano) who lives in a hoarding situation in a tiny studio apartment.  But his followers are now armed and planting bombs all over Gotham City to destroy its physical infrastructure.

    “Torn from the headlines” is the point I’m trying to make.

  50. 50.

    sab

    We have a local park that has little festivals all Spring and Summer. About ten years ago we stumbled into a little festival that turned out to be our first local gay pride festival. We were a middle-aged straight cis couple and they were very nice to us, so we kept going back year after year.

    Nothing scheduled this year. Then we found out they had graduated to the big important location downtown in August, Day after my dad’s 98th burthday. Month after my husband’s horrific back surgery, Hope we can go, but they will be fine without us. Glad to see my city moving against the tide.

  51. 51.

    Geminid

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: I’ll be interested to see biographical info on these 31 goons. My impression is that many Patriot Front recruits are from the working class. Two guys could leave after work on a Friday and drive 800 miles by noon on Saturday. But we’ll know more before too long about who these guys are, and maybe how they got to Coeur d’Arlene

  52. 52.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: ​
     

    Then it dawns on me. The character they’re talking about has a silver disc he wears on chain around his neck. At first I called it a charm. Then I globally changed that to token. So charming becomes tokening.

    Prince Charming Tokening Pendanting Amuleting

  54. 54.

    Served

    Not a coincidence that today is the 6th anniversary of the Pulse shooting. 49 lives lost.

    The trans panic has already been expanded to include all LGBT people and right wing extremists are boiling over with rage and attacks in a way we haven’t seen in years. This isn’t the first or last of this type of violence against the LGBT community and it will be a miracle if no one is killed.

  55. 55.

    zhena gogolia

    What a coincidence. Both Apple news on my phone (how do I get rid of that?) and the NYT are telling me that Democrats don’t want Biden to run in 2024.

  57. 57.

    Danielx

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Then there’s the thought about how these are young single white guys – do they not have lives? Do they not date, have girlfriends, whatever? Though I can see how “sorry, I know we had plans for this weekend but me and the bros have to go to Idaho to fuck up some faggots” would be off putting to a lot of women…

  58. 58.

    germy shoemangler

    @zhena gogolia:

    Go to “apps”   then “show all apps”  and then you can scroll down to the apple one and select “disable”

    I disabled facebook the minute i got my phone.

  60. 60.

    Old Man Shadow

    Something tells me if those guys weren’t white and their targets weren’t marginalized, they’d be slapped with a LOT more than a misdemeanor.

  63. 63.

    Brachiator

    @Danielx:

    Then there’s the thought about how these are young single white guys – do they not have lives? Do they not date, have girlfriends, whatever? Though I can see how “sorry, I know we had plans for this weekend but me and the bros have to go to Idaho to fuck up some faggots” would be off putting to a lot of women…

    Then there’s the “Patriot” who went to Idaho and had sex with a gay person. He got the orders mixed up, but met the love of his life.

  64. 64.

    oldgold

    These damn NW territories, like Idaho, should have never gained statehood.

    The Usual Suspects, the GOP, corruptly made them stares at the end of the 19th Century to offset Democratic Dixie.

    Now that Dixie and the NW territories have linked-up politically, we have a Senate that took the fun out of dysfunctional.

  66. 66.

    Kay

    @germy shoemangler:

    Rousseau, the leader lives with his father as does the member who they arrested in Chicago on weapons charges -lives with his parents who insisted he unlock his safe and turn over his weapons to law enforcement. Honestly they mostly seem like young men who failed to “launch” – they don’t have anything going on outside these groups.

  68. 68.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Kay: They’re cowardly scum.  Most of them will probably be unemployed once the names are revealed.

  69. 69.

    Soprano2

    The young medically-retired Marine I met at a family dinner (hubby’s niece was going thru town on her way to Chicago from CA) could easily be one of these Patriot Front people. He said he wanted a civil war! I wanted to ask him more in a “tell me more about it” way, but decided not to ruin a family event. The dummy had a gun stolen on the trip because he left it in the console of a U-Haul. “Thieves will never look there”. They didn’t plan their stops, so they ended up at a skeezy motel in Tulsa, where the U-Haul got broken into.

  70. 70.

    M31

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    my favorite search-and-replace story is when a UK newspaper changed all the occurrences of “the queen” with “Queen Elizabeth” and they ended up with “Queen Elizabeth is ten times the size of  workers and lays over 2000 eggs per day”

  72. 72.

    Soprano2

    @zhena gogolia: What’s funny is that they always write stories like this during the mid-term year. I bet someone wrote a story like it about TFG in 2018, and about Obama in 2010. You’d think they’d learn…..

  73. 73.

    Phylllis

    @Danielx: A lot of them are probably state or local government employees, or work for utility companies, with generous vacation and sick day accrual policies. Yes, I’m well aware of the irony.

  74. 74.

    MagdaInBlack

    @Kay: I think ” failed to launch” is a pretty good description of most of them.

    But, someone is funding them, and all of this.

  75. 75.

    germy shoemangler

    NAMES of potential Patriot Front from Kootenai County website, arrested on conspiracy today at that location.

    MORRIS, KIERAN PADRAIG
    ROUSSEAU, THOMAS RYAN
    SMITH, DEREK JOSEPH
    TABLER, DAKOTA RAY
    TUCKER, STEVEN DERRICK
    WHITTED, ROBERT BENJAMIJN
    CORIO, DYLAN CARTER#PatriotFail

    — Jason Paladino (@jason_paladino) June 12, 2022

    MORE NAMES:

    BUSTER, JOSIAH DANIEL
    HANEY, BRANDON MITCHEL
    JOHNSON, JAMES MICHAEL
    JOHNSON, JAMES JULIUS
    OLEARY, JUSTIN MICHAEL
    RANKIN, FORREST CLARK
    SIMPSON, SPENCER THOMAS
    WHITFIELD, NATHANIEL TAYLOR#PatriotFail

    — Jason Paladino (@jason_paladino) June 12, 2022

  77. 77.

    J R in WV

    @Danielx: 

    I think all of these guys are “involuntary celibate” incels… none of them looks particularly social, probably have only had “dates” with some poor young woman making it as a sex worker online.

    Not even any affection, just a financial transaction.

    Sad, so glad it happens to these little monsters, if they can’t reproduce, maybe they will be gone soon…

  79. 79.

    Kay

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    It’s the same grievance thing we see over and over on the Right. Someone is taking or has taken or will take something from them that they were entitiled to:

    “It shouldn’t be hard to believe that the group facing the harshest oppression from our ruling elite are producing shooters,” one Patriot Front member wrote. “White men are being slowly destroyed in a way calculated to produce resentment and a sense of helplessness. Of course, some of them decide to lash out.”

    I feel like it comes from the mainstream conservative ideology-everything is zero sum. They can’t win if an immigrant is also winning. There has to be a winner and a loser, because there is only X amount of “success” available.

    Remember the serious Right wing argument when Obama expanded Medicaid? “There won’t be enough health care to go around! We’ll have wait lists!” as if expanding the supply is impossible, like we couldn’t possibly make more health care workers or clinics.

  80. 80.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Geminid: ​
     

    At the very least, the police should already have been able to find out who rented the U-Haul, and where. Maybe it was rented in Virginia and they drove across the country picking people up along the way, or maybe they all converged on Spokane (the nearest ‘big’ city) and rented the U-Haul there.

  81. 81.

    Soprano2

    I saw a guy wearing a T-shirt with “Ultra Maga” on it yesterday. It’s useless to try to label or insult them, they take every insult as praise. Who else thinks being called “deplorable” is something to be proud of?

    I’m surprised none of those guys were from Missouri.

  82. 82.

    Mike in NC

    I enjoyed seeing the cuffed shithead with the “Reclaim America” shirt. The fascist slogan “Make America Great Again” really meant let’s pretend we live in Alabama in 1950. The racist Tea Party movement that the Koch brothers and other billionaires funded for the 2010 elections was all about “taking our country back” from those people (i.e., whoever stupid white people hate/are afraid of).

  83. 83.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @M31: “Queen Elizabeth is ten times the size of workers and lays over 2000 eggs per day”

    glad to see some facts are breaking through

    @Soprano2:and about Obama in 2010

    Ah, yes, the “Buyer’s Remorse” whisper campaign, when Democrats were going to revolt and nominate HRC for 2012. Tweety, of all people, was all over it.

  84. 84.

    JMG

    @geg6:  Saw Music Man in late April. It’s a great show, but the emphasis is on dancing rather than the songs. Not that those get short shrift, but the choreography is meant to be the feature attraction.

  88. 88.

    Kay

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    So did you suspect there were more when you posted yesterday about the one armed guy strutting around the edge of the park?

    I saw the news about the arrest and felt “tipped off” by Sister Golden Bear :)

  90. 90.

    kindness

    Only one of the 31 reichtwingnutz was from Idaho?  I hadn’t read that yet.  Damn, what some people choose to do with their vacation time…….  If nothing else this will hopefully start a file on each of these lunatics within the halls of our security agencies.

  91. 91.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @Benw: That’s been their MO for the various reasons stated. It does warm the cockles of my cold, cold heart that the TikTok kids are busy identifying them — and their employers.

    I also wanted to note that today is the 6th anniversary of the Pulse massacre. If when another awful attack on LBGTQ+ happens, please reach out to the queer and trans people in your life. Probably the worst part for me was the utter silence from the straight cis people in my life, acting like nothing even happened. Later on, some of them said, they didn’t know what to say, but that why we have stock phrases, like the ones we use when we find out someone has lost a loved one.

  92. 92.

    NotMax

    ‘@Kay

    At one juncture they actually tried rolling out “Windmills will use up all the wind” as an argument.

  94. 94.

    J R in WV

    @Sister Golden Bear: ​
     

    How to lose your library card forever-more, without telling the librarian you quit. Don’t return popular books, lose your ability to check anything out again, ever! Local library here reopened after a huge rebuilding campaign, now they loan tools and equipment, 3-D printer in the hi-tech gear lab, etc … hope the Nazi fascists stay away!

    Not your grandma’s library any more, that’s for sure!

  96. 96.

    Soprano2

    @Kay: They think they deserve to be at the front of the line for everything – jobs, houses, cars, girlfriends, anything you can think of. To them oppression is anyone else being able to get something before they do. I saw it expressed well by a writer who interviewed people in southern Louisiana – they see themselves in a big line for stuff. They think liberals make policies that let “undeserving” people who haven’t earned it cut in front of them in the line, which they think isn’t fair. All “those people” should have to wait their turn (which is always behind white people). They resent it when any of “those people” have something they don’t have, because obviously they didn’t earn it!

  97. 97.

    CaseyL

    One thing I noticed about some of those PF bozos, as they were on their knees, was the soles of their combat boots were clean. Either brand new, bought just for this, or only worn for PF activities.

  100. 100.

    Kay

    @NotMax:

    The thing is you can’t get “19” back. You have to be doing things at 19 to be okay at 25, like laying some groundwork, setting things in motion and that’s personal life as well as financial independence. The real “scarcity” for these young men is TIME because sadly you don’t stay young.

  101. 101.

    Betty Cracker

    Regarding the “will someone other than Biden will be the Dem nominee in 2024” stories, I’ve seen at least three of those in the last couple of weeks. We should get ready to see many more stories in that vein in the coming year and a half.

    While a lot of the content is crap, I don’t think it’s illegitimate on the media’s part to tackle the subject since Biden is pushing 80, and his approval ratings are badly underwater right now. Of course they’ll go there. The speculation is pointless in the grand scheme of things, basically just gossip, but the same is true of a lot of political gabbing, including most of the topics we discuss here.

    The talk about 2024 will become deafening if Dems do poorly in the midterms. My guess is that Biden will run again if his health permits, especially if he thinks Trump will be his opponent again. He’s said some things that lead me to believe he’s convinced he would have beaten Trump in 2016 (he may be right), and he probably believes he’s more capable than anyone else of beating Trump again in 2024 if it comes to that.

    If Trump falls to the wayside and someone like DeSantis looks like he’ll win the 2024 GOP race, it might change Biden’s calculus.

  102. 102.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Kay: ​
     

    Remember the serious Right wing argument when Obama expanded Medicaid? “There won’t be enough health care to go around! We’ll have wait lists!” as if expanding the supply is impossible, like we couldn’t possibly make more health care workers or clinics.

    That one at least superficially made a certain amount of sense – enough so, actually, that I’m still somewhat unclear on why it didn’t prove to be true.

    Sure, med schools and nursing schools are always graduating new doctors and nurses, but to a large extent they’re replacing the doctors and nurses who are aging out of the work force. And I wouldn’t expect it to be easy to expand the number and capacity of such programs in a hurry.

    If anyone ever did a “how come the shortage of medical professionals didn’t happen” story, I missed it. (I hope whatever the reason was, it’s going to work its magic again, given the number of people exiting the profession after being burned out by Covid.)

  103. 103.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @Kay: The guy with the assault rifle was not affiliated, and apparently wasn’t the only one open-carrying. And while it didn’t get reported, there were other hate groups out in force, including folks from Atomwaffen, and couple of hate preachers (who surprisingly the cops actually barred from the event).

    This is typical at Pride celebrations. I just want to repeat this for those in back: This is typical at Pride celebrations.

    When I took safety training for SF Pride (required for groups in the parade) even a decade ago there were warnings about needing to be on alert in post-parade area, since there are routinely haters who lurk on the edges of Pride who’ve assaulted Pride goers.

    Twice on other occasions, I’ve almost been gay-bashed (but luckily managed to escape), and I’ve have several friends who were, so I’m already hyper-vigilant. Older trans/queer people like me had to be. I’d say almost all of us have at least minimum low-grade CPTSD from growing up/living in a hostile environment.

  105. 105.

    Mike in NC

    Patriot Front, Oathkeepers, Proud Boys, and numerous other neo-Nazi hate groups either didn’t exist prior to the rise of Trump or they were a tiny fringe. FOX News and talk radio will be the death of this country. Glad to be an old person for once.

  107. 107.

    Kay

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    Thanks. It really could have been bad and I’m pleased that for once it seemed like police were protecting rather than just observing Right winger aggression. I want and expect them to prevent violence and we all know by now these people are setting up conditions where violence is inevitable- that’s why they came. We don’t have to pretend we don’t know that.

  109. 109.

    The Moar You Know

    It’s obvious that these jerkoffs read all about the brownshirts and equally obvious they all skipped the ending.

  110. 110.

    OverTwistWillie

    I’m pretty sure “Real Estate Agent” means unemployable and leaching off of a female.

    In this market, working agents are trying to make it to their sixth showing on a Saturday afternoon.

  112. 112.

    Betty Cracker

    There was a hate preacher at the St. Pete Pride march a few years back, standing on a sidewalk yelling about hellfire and damnation to the marchers. A woman stationed herself next to him with an airhorn, and every time he opened his yap, she blew it. The airhorn was less annoying than his yelling, so I thought it was a pretty good way to shut him down.

  114. 114.

    ksmiami

    @Danielx: They are unfuckable losers with mad agro energy and bad facial hair. Limited life prospects as well. If we get into a real shooting war with Russia (which I give at least a 12% chance of) these are the the guys who get blown up as cannon fodder first not because of bad military planning, but because of their own reckless stupidity.

  115. 115.

    The Moar You Know

    (I hope whatever the reason was, it’s going to work its magic again, given the number of people exiting the profession after being burned out by Covid.)

    @lowtechcyclist: it’s here.  I’m on my fourth primary doctor since January 2020, and regular appointments are now being made for January, urgent appointments in late August/early September.  Two of the three doctors I have lost quit because of COVID.  The doctor shortage is now a real thing and medical care in the United States is in for a bad decade.

  117. 117.

    Baud

    @ksmiami:

    If we get into a real shooting war with Russia (which I give at least a 12% chance of) these are the the guys who get blown up as cannon fodder fight for the Russians.

  122. 122.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Kay: The zero sum thing is key.  They don’t have the imagination to think beyond it.  Depressing, really.

  123. 123.

    Cacti

    @Benw: Why did they all pile into a U-Haul like that? If they’d driven 4-5 separate cars and just parked like normal people no one would’ve noticed. Fascists are fucking weird, man.

    Probably couldn’t afford/were too cheap to all pay for their own gas to drive there.

  124. 124.

    Kay

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    I know I’m supposed to be intimidated by their big, stupid guns but the manacles and zip ties they all carry now piss me off more. Who told these people they had authority to strut around looking for people to “arrest” and detain? No one consented to deputizing these freaks. What nerve. No one consented to being part of their fantasy world where they control everyone. Leave us out of it. Strut around your parents basement. Patrol the borders of mom and dads house.

  125. 125.

    Steeplejack

    @Kay:

    Re anonymity: Interesting that the cops allow them to keep their masks on even after being cuffed. If they were unmasked they could be photographed by onlookers. Just sayin’.

  126. 126.

    oatler

    Look forward to Kimmel bashing this Monday night. I’d predict it’ll get mentioned in Colbert’s “Meanwhile..” but Steve’s probably on one of his non-covid breaks.

  127. 127.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @The Moar You Know: The ending for the rank and file SA was to be buried somewhere on the Russian Front.  The leadership was disposed of in the Night of the Long Knives.

  128. 128.

    Kristine

    @lowtechcyclist: @The Moar You Know:

    The doctor shortage is now a real thing and medical care in the United States is in for a bad decade.

    During my annual, my PCP told me that their group lost two doctors who left to form a concierge practice. That meant that 100s of patients needed to be spread among the remaining doctors–appointment slots filled accordingly.

    This is in the upscale North Shore, which is the sort of area that could support concierge medicine. Idk if it could extend beyond that economic stratum.

  129. 129.

    Brachiator

    @Wakeshift: 

    I literally can’t tell if this is snark, or an actual true part of the story…

    I was being snarky. But there is something very much “in the closet” about a bunch of fit guys dressed in tight clothes hiding in the back of a dark U-Haul van.

    Reminds me of that very funny parody story from the Onion.

  130. 130.

    Ramalama

    This news about PBs in Coeur d’Alene reminded me of a brilliant song by Iris DeMent – Easy’s Gettin’ Harder Every Day. Has anyone else heard it?

    Also, was reminded of this early-days report by This American Life’s Zoe Chace on the PBs. I hadn’t heard of them yet when it came out. But I was riveted: White Haze.

  132. 132.

    geg6

    @The Moar You Know:

    No kidding.  My niece, a nuclear medicine major, is being recruited by numerous prestigious medical centers for an undergrad internship.  She accepted the one at the Mayo, but every one of the hospitals were more than eager to get her.

  133. 133.

    The Pale Scot

    I with the media would use the proper nomenclature instead of “white nationalists”

    Joke, what do you call 31 white supremacists in  Uhaul?

    I’m working on it, where is Tony Jay when you need him?

  134. 134.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @Steeplejack:  They were eventually unmasked one-by-one as they were being loaded into the back of patrol cars, and there definitely lots of photos taken. Also, while the misdemeanor charges are disappointing, it did mean that there were court filings identifying each and everyone one of them.

    Both Twitter and the TikTok kids have been busy identifying more about them and their (soon to be former) employers.

  135. 135.

    trollhattan

    In case anybody was debating whether cops in Idaho are better than cops in Texas, we have an answer.

    “I was pulling over what I thought was a van full of weed, and you won’t believe what I found instead.”

  139. 139.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @Kay: Since CA bans open carrying, if they tried that at SF Pride, there’s contingents leather daddies and bears who’d be happy to show them just what to do with those zip ties. It won’t go the way they expect….

  141. 141.

    Brachiator

    @Cacti:

    @Benw: Why did they all pile into a U-Haul like that? If they’d driven 4-5 separate cars and just parked like normal people no one would’ve noticed. Fascists are fucking weird, man.

    Also, they weren’t thinking through the need for a quick getaway had they not been discovered. Everything about their plan seemed full of stupid.

  142. 142.

    trollhattan

    @germy shoemangler: Nice to see they have all the free time and money they need to come from as far away as Texas, just to go harass teh gheys in some obscure Idaho park.

    I have hobbies, also too.

  146. 146.

    Spanky

    @Benw: 

    Why did they all pile into a U-Haul like that? If they’d driven 4-5 separate cars and just parked like normal people no one would’ve noticed.

    Clowns gotta clown-car.

  147. 147.

    germy shoemangler

    Illinois police officer resigns after white supremacist posts exposed online by antifascists.

    "When I seize power, 'hate crimes' will be encouraged," read a social media post linked to veteran Springfield officer Aaron Paul Nichols. He resigned in April. https://t.co/mHKpbojuVU

    — Chad Loder (@chadloder) June 12, 2022

  150. 150.

    Mo MacArbie

    @The Pale Scot: I with the media would use the proper nomenclature instead of “white nationalists”

    Joke, what do you call 31 white supremacists in Uhaul?

    I’m working on it, where is Tony Jay when you need him?

    A volklift.

  151. 151.

    germy shoemangler

    @Spanky:

    They were noticed because of their online activity.  Their social media was being monitored, so law enforcement knew exactly where and when to find them.

  152. 152.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @Danielx: Then there’s the thought about how these are young single white guys – do they not have lives? Do they not date, have girlfriends, whatever? Though I can see how “sorry, I know we had plans for this weekend but me and the bros have to go to Idaho to fuck up some faggots” would be off putting to a lot of women…

    The “I am not gay, I just fuck guys” crowd. The Real Brown Shirt leadership was the same way, all gays in denial.

  153. 153.

    trnc

    @germy shoemangler: Cops are just arresting a rival gang here link to t.co

    Police abuses of power and tendencies to protect themselves at great cost to the people they’ve sworn to serve, let’s give credit where due and let’s also understand that shitting on them after they’ve done the right thing is not likely to make them listen to us more.

  155. 155.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @trollhattan: In case anybody was debating whether cops in Idaho are better than cops in Texas, we have an answer.

    Idaho has had decades of dealing with violent racists so the cops there likely don’t buy into the “They’re our friends” BS.

  156. 156.

    scav

    @scav: huh! Didn’t the Visual tab use to allow us to use naked gt and lt signs as punctuation?  What fun!  The new place is still it’s own place.  There’s a hell of less pseudo linking in my original post. I was trying NOT to identify companies.

  157. 157.

    lowtechcyclist

    @CaseyL: ​
     

    One thing I noticed about some of those PF bozos, as they were on their knees, was the soles of their combat boots were clean. Either brand new, bought just for this, or only worn for PF activities.

    I just looked at the video, and boy howdy, those things are new. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if the police found a big stack of shoeboxes in a corner of that U-Haul.

  159. 159.

    germy shoemangler

    @trnc:

    Those same police detained a young woman who was photographing the arrests.  She’s a progressive who tweets about the violent alt right.  The woman was eventually released but she was very upset and shook.  She said it was harassment.

  160. 160.

    The Pale Scot

    @germy shoemangler: 

    Whitson was also in D.C. Saturday. He was arrested in TX for racist graffiti and MD for distributing LSD and is the chief videogrpher for Patriot Front and the terror group, RAM

    I did NATZI that coming

    And, half of the them are holding their heads up with pursed lips like RU soldiers marching in Red Square. Send them to the UA to be bomb detectors

  162. 162.

    germy shoemangler

    She was getting photos during the arrests.

    getting detained. idk why.

    — alissa azar (@AlissaAzar) June 11, 2022

    I’m free now. I need a break for my physical and mental health. Will update more when I feel up for it. Major headache. Basically it was complete bullshit reasons, an illegal search & seizure, just looking for a reason to arrest leftists, and mainly to try and get information.

    — alissa azar (@AlissaAzar) June 11, 2022

  163. 163.

    Shana

    @geg6: I’ve long thought that the dresses for the Tonys are way better than for the Emmys or the Oscars because theater people are used to how they present as a whole person on stage and know what works better for them in such a setting while TV and movie people are more used to how a camera sees them in pieces and not as a whole person.

  164. 164.

    germy shoemangler

    Same event:

    fascists were just harassing a trans woman, the cops arrested her and left the fascists alone.
    — alissa azar (@AlissaAzar) June 11, 2022

  165. 165.

    Benw

    @Spanky: “clowns”

    There you go. I’m glad they got reported and caught like clowns, cause if they were very violent, dangerous clowns.

  167. 167.

    Shana

    @geg6: I hope it’s Company, a reworking of the show with Bobby (a man in the original) recast as Bobbie (a woman). It, frankly, works much better than the 70s version where 35 year old Bobby is worrying about not being married yet, or wanting to be married. The whole story works so much better with a woman as the leadcharacter.

  168. 168.

    VOR

    We have burned out the medical community over the past two years during COVID. First, a temporary ban on money-making non-emergency procedures. Second, high-stress jobs with very real risk of illness. Third, long working hours and shorthanded so limited time off. Fourth, real danger from anti-vax assholes upset because they can’t get Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin in the ICU. My sister works in an ICU and deals with this one all the time. Here’s a good article from the Atlantic’s Ed Yong. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/11/the-mass-exodus-of-americas-health-care-workers/620713/

  170. 170.

    dr. luba

    @VOR:  My niece graudate nursing school in 2009, and was launched into COVID nine months later. She became a COVID nurse because all med-surg nurses became COVID nurses.

    She got burned out with the night shifts, PPE, and crazy patients. She’s now in education/administration.

    I, OTOH, am a board certified OB/GYN. Was working as an OB hospitalist prior to COVID. Stopped working during COVID because our unit was overstaffed and I was high risk. Sciatica kept me out several months longer. I came back very part time, and have stayed there.

  171. 171.

    Ruckus

    @NotMax:

    Where can you purchase gasoline for $5.40/gal?

    Not where I live in SoCal. Cheapest around me is an Arco station, $5.87 cash, $5.97 credit. Not close to cheapest is a Chevron, $6.39/$6.55

  173. 173.

    thalarctosMaritimus

    @Danielx:

    As often as Mr. thalarctos and I use it when we’re talking politics, if it wasn’t already a word, surely we’ve summoned it into existence.

  174. 174.

    Misterpuff

    @lowtechcyclist: @lowtechcyclist: 
    lowtechcyclist

    JUNE 12, 2022 AT 10:41 AM

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: ​

    Then it dawns on me. The character they’re talking about has a silver disc he wears on chain around his neck. At first I called it a charm. Then I globally changed that to token. So charming becomes tokening.

    Prince Charming Tokening Pendanting Amuleting

    Ankhing!

  176. 176.

    Paul in KY

    @ksmiami: They are generally too weeny to actually get in the real military. Plus, being losers, they probably wouldn’t cut it at bootcamp.

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