Bill Stepien will not be testifying at this morning’s 1/6 Committee hearing, and the proceedings have been delayed for 30-45 minutes. Stepien’s excuse is that his wife just went into labor. His lawyer will be reading a statement instead. Stepien is managing the campaign of Liz Cheney’s primary opponent, so he probably wouldn’t have been the world’s most cooperative witness.
Since activists like March for Our Lives, Gabby Giffords and Fred Guttenberg have endorsed this weekend’s gun deal, while noting that it doesn’t go far enough, I’m on board. But, I’m going to have to agree with Steve M on this one: it’s highly unlikely that what was announced over the weekend will pass. The announcement was a “framework,” not a bill, and the pressure on the 10 Republicans to pull back or pull out entirely will be immense. Part of the massive dysfunction of the Senate is that you can’t count on the word of the swing voters — the Manchinema debacle last year is a great example — since their main goal is to burnish their “centrist” reputations.
zhena gogolia
Stepien.
TriassicSands
Wow, it takes real planning nine months in advance to have your wife go into labor the day of your testimony.
Diabolical!
mistermix
@zhena gogolia: Fixed. Thanks
germy shoemangler
Stepian, the guy who helped delay traffic on the George Washington Bridge, is now delaying the Jan. 6 hearings
Martin
Rumors the USSC abortion decision may come down this morning. That’s some serious ratfucking if it does.
Nancy
Arghhhhhhhhhh, sat in front of the local PBS affiliate, watching what was probably perfectly nice stuff, but it was not the hearing.
Balloon-Juice comes through again.
No banner at the bottom of the local public television screen saying things were postponed.
As annoying as those banners are, at times they can be handy.
I called the station and told them (via voice mail) that I wanted to see the hearing and it would be nice if they’d let viewers know why ther weren’t broadcasting it.
I’m a crochety old person. At least today I am channeling one.
I might like it.
NotMax
‘@Nancy
PBS goon squad dispatched in order to repossess the tote bag.
:)
WaterGirl
@Martin: Serious ratfucking is right. Everything they do is transparently political.
They have flushed the reputation of the Supreme Court right down the toilet, again and again.
Gin & Tonic
@zhena gogolia: Replied to you in last night’s thread.
Omnes Omnibus
@Martin: The rumor was false. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
zhena gogolia
@Gin & Tonic: Thanks, I just saw. I’m not a Navalny fangirl, but credit where credit is due — it was a powerful speech.
At one point he says “na Ukrainu,” which isn’t what decent people say, but he’s quoting Russian TV news, so I think that’s why.
Old School
@Omnes Omnibus: That’s only because they want to ratfuck a different hearing now!
raven
@Martin: nope, they are done for today,
WereBear
Will young Stepian forever know their birth was the day Dad was supposed to start testimony of his contribution to secessionist insurrection?
Inquiring mind…
Betty Cracker
Two-minute warning for the hearings to start, according to Mrs. Greenspan.
Dangerman
@Martin:
Here’s to hoping Roberts got someone to flip. I want to see heads explode. Sure, it’s irresponsible to have to use so much water to hose off the remains, but the mess has to be cleaned up.
Carrion and Carry On.
Martin
@Omnes Omnibus: Good to know. I would hope the court would show some deference and respect to another branch of government holding such an important hearing.
trollhattan
@mistermix: “EpiPen”
trollhattan
@Martin: Dear lord, another Ginny project?
“You know, Clarence, what would really take these hearings off the news?”
Dorothy A. Winsor
Good opening, Bennie
Brachiator
What a vile, feeble excuse! How dare anyone put their family above politics.
I don’t get this constant need to view things in terms of how repugnant centrists and centrism must be, and how only progressives are sacred, noble and good.
It is simpler and possibly more accurate to note that Republicans and some Democrats will never vote for any bill that reduces the number of guns or the amount of ammunition that gun-humpers might be able to obtain. But these weasels feel that they must respond to reasonable demands by voters to do something. Cynical gun loving politicians will do everything they can to weaken any legislation that is passed or make sure that it is loosely enforced. Pragmatic politicians who favor gun control will push for strong enforcement and try to build on what has been achieved to pass stronger legislation in the future.
Seems to me that you can acknowledge how politics gets done without playing pin the tail on the centrist.
Jerzy Russian
Liz does not like Rudy, pass it on.
Martin
‘apparently inebriated’
Twist that knife, Liz. You’re doing God’s work now.
Brachiator
@Martin:
Court watchers note that the Supreme Court has 29 more opinions to be released. It is going to be an interesting summer.
zhena gogolia
Which thread should we be discussing the hearing on?
MisterDancer
“Define ‘interesting’.”
“…Oh God Oh God we’re all gonna die?”
Jerzy Russian
Christ, Trump is such an asshole!
JPL
@zhena gogolia: It’s confusing.
Is Liz just assuming that Rudy was drunk, or do they have testimony to support that.
I hope he called Uber
zhena gogolia
I’m torn about whether to keep listening. I kind of know all this already.
Baud
@zhena gogolia:
All of them, Katie.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Jerzy Russian: I’d blotted out my awareness of exactly how big an asshole he is, so it’s probably good to be reminded by his own testimony
zhena gogolia
Cher is on again!
Jerzy Russian
@zhena gogolia: It is a good thing you are only listening, otherwise you would have had to look at the mugs of Jarvanka et al.
zhena gogolia
Oh, I take it back, this is juicy.
zhena gogolia
@Jerzy Russian: I’m watching.
Dorothy A. Winsor
Good, they’re showing Stepien’s taped testimony
ETA: And he says Rudy was drunk
Baud
@Martin:
Glad to hear that women are fully human for a few more days at least.
pat
they are talking about rudy being drunk right now
hhehehe
MisterDancer
They are playing the tapes right now — people are saying Rudy was visibly inebriated.
pat
they have the goods.
cain
@MisterDancer:
More like the Chinese curse. :-)
Gin & Tonic
I’m enjoying the underbussing of Rudy.
scav
@MisterDancer: And who of us who have seen Rudy on the teevee set are really surprised at this? But, were there flies!??!
Dorothy A. Winsor
Ooh. They made him say Biden won
zhena gogolia
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr., of the great state of Delaware!
Brachiator
@MisterDancer:
People will be looking at the decisions to see how far the conservative majority on the Court will go to impose their own vision.
And I am hoping that reaction to the court will bring out more Democrats for the midterms.
Citizen Alan
Is anyone liveblogging this? Preferably someone snarky?
Jerzy Russian
Christ, Bill Barr is such an asshole!
Baud
@Gin & Tonic:
I was hoping you were speaking literally. Sadly, the Dems went high.
Doug R
@TriassicSands:
Nice INDUCtivE reasoning. Not to beLABOR the point.
lee
Couple of things I picked up ‘from the internet’ this morning (so they are worth exactly zero):
Stepien has never spoken of his martial status in public and internet sleuths have yet to find a record of his marriage.
His wife could have been induced.
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
“Gee, honey. I’ve got an important appointment next Monday, so would you mind scheduling the birth for this week?”
I know my wife wouldn’t take that well…
Dorothy A. Winsor
“Thrice”
You don’t hear that very often
mistermix
@Citizen Alan: Marcy Wheeler is live tweeting it:
emptywheel (@emptywheel) / Twitter
Baud
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
Probably no more than thrice.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Citizen Alan: If you want snark, it’s hard to beat Wonkette. Here’s their live blog
zhena gogolia
He spanned ideology from Trump to Bush! wow!
Dorothy A. Winsor
Is that guy testifying from his bathroom?
raven
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Thrice in Thrace!
sdhays
Re: the gun deal – They got 10 Republicans to sign the framework, and in the news article announcing this in the Washington Post yesterday, it was quite notable (to me, at least) that the NRA didn’t respond with a comment before the article went to press (well, to pixel). Maybe they still won’t pass anything (always the better bet in this and most Senates), but I’m not so sure. It will depend on the political calculations of the Republican Party. At least some of them are concerned that this could hurt them if they don’t do “something”.
TaMara
@Citizen Alan: I like Mueller, She Wrote, although it’s individual tweets, not a thread, so a little hard to follow.
https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote
Layer8Problem
@raven: Thrace thrice?
raven
He winked!
raven
@Layer8Problem: Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum!
Immanentize
@Omnes Omnibus: i will say it again: my prediction is the Mississippi abortion case will be issued Friday, July 1.
Martin
Boy, you can’t help but get the impression all of these folks working for Trump just fucking despise each other. They’re all self-serving assholes, including his kids.
Martin
@sdhays: Gun deal is bullshit, but we’ll take what we can for now. It qualifies as ‘something’.
Tony G
@germy shoemangler: Jesus. I hadn’t known that Bill Stepian had been involved in “Bridgegate”. His sorry ass should have gone to prison for a few years for that. Instead, he failed upwards (these guys always fail upwards) and became one of Trump’s advisors. A true low-life. To the degree that “Bridgegate” is remembered at all almost a decade later, it tends to be thought of as a fraternity prank. It should never be forgotten that A WOMAN DIED on the way to a hospital that day when her ambulance was stuck in the manufactured traffic tie-up. These are horrible people with blood on their hands.
Roger Moore
@sdhays:
My gut feeling is this follows the general pattern of people agreeing to the broad framework and objecting to the details. Once this actually gets turned into legislation, there will be some minor point they can say wasn’t in the framework, is beyond the pale, and they can’t possibly accept. They’ll get away with it because the news media will lap it up.
zhena gogolia
The moral quality of these witnesses is irrelevant to the matter at hand. They are telling the truth, their stories jibe with each other, and the truth needs to be established.
Layer8Problem
@raven: I’m actually visualizing Rudy Giuliani’s next job, in a dinner theater cast for A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum, doing a Phil Silversesque “but you’ll never learn, you’ll always be a eunuch!” He likes dress-up; he might be able to pull it off.
martha
Ok, for the first time in a long time, I’m going to say nice things about NPR. Am listening to the hearings because I’m doing some gardening for my sanity and Steve Inskeep is quietly interrupting the coverage during several of the video clips with the whack jobs…”not a true statement” “that’s a lie” “that’s a false statement”…
zhena gogolia
This is fascinating but I have to tune out for a while.
trollhattan
@Tony G: Trump’s ability to find the shittiest, most vindictive people on the planet to staff his administration and fill his appointments was a kind of marvel, like a human Roach Motel®
Only somebody forgot to bag and dispose of the Roach Motel once it was full.
pat
@martha: well that’s weird. The people being interviewed and shown on the videos are for the most part telling the truth,
which is what is so devastating to trump.
Layer8Problem
@Tony G: He’ll never be able to set foot in Fort Lee, ever. I wonder if he ever had a civil suit from that woman’s family? Funny thing, I can see that side of the GW Bridge.
zhena gogolia
@pat: It was probably the clips of Giuliani and Powell.
martha
@pat: sorry, I wasn’t clear! The video or audio with people like Rudy, Trump, Powell, etc.
Inskeep is actually clarifying their false statements…
Old School
@zhena gogolia: Or Trump himself.
Butch
@Citizen Alan: Both Wonkette and Daily Kos have good liveblogs under way.
pat
@martha:
ok, got it
Elizabelle
Maybe a fresh thread, for post-recess J6 hearing??
They’re still out on recess.
raven
@Layer8Problem:
Lycus : This I swear by the great Necrophytes, god of pimps, panderers and go-betweens.
[Exits scene, returns]
Lycus : A new god, but a very hard worker.
germy shoemangler
Speaking of Rudy, his son who is running for NY governor will have to appear at debates remotely, because he refuses to provide proof of a covid vaccination.
He says if he wins the first thing he’ll do is rehire all the NYS vaccine refuseniks who lost their jobs.
He says he is unvaccinated, which I have trouble believing, but okay
Soprano2
So off off topic, I’m going to have the fun (not) of calling the Maul County police this afternoon to find out what the hell is going on there with my stepson’s case! Our funeral director called me this morning to tell us that on Saturday, when she called Maui to get an update on where things were, she was told that my stepson’s body was not at the transportation hub but was still at the coroner’s office, that he was still officially a John Doe because he had not been positively identified yet (the police officer told my husband and I that he was positively ID’s by his tattoo a week ago Thursday!!!), and that they were waiting on medical and dental records to ID him!!! What the fuck happened to make this 180 degree turn from what we were told on June 2nd? To add to the “fun”, my husband’s daughter told us last Thursday that the police officer assigned to the case told her he was going on some kind of two week training, so he wouldn’t be available for two weeks! (He didn’t call us to tell us any of this!) Guess it’s time to talk to his boss, huh? I’m getting a worse and worse feeling about what’s going on here.
Elizabelle
Second panel begins. Hearings gaveled in.
sdhays
@Martin: The substance isn’t very exciting (and the school security stuff it total bullshit, as we saw from Uvalde and Stoneman Douglas), but actually passing “something” that’s somewhat better will be a chink in the dam.
Passing anything has been a red line for the NRA. If they can’t maintain it, it will be a good thing.
JWR
Deleted because new thread. (TY, WaterGirl!)
oatler
@NotMax:
Are you kidding? PBS is in the middle of one their “pledge drives”, any one of which incites me to a psychotic rage I hadn’t noticed in myself since I last watched Meet the Press.
artem1s
At this point I care less about TFG going to jail than I care that people like Stepien never be allowed to run another political campaign or serve under an elected official, at any level, ever again. If this had been W’s, JEB’s or Christie’s administration they still would have hired this guy knowing full well who he was. It was only TFG’s insistence on saying the quiet parts out loud that got them into trouble. In fact, if Stepian is allowed, some GQPer will certainly hire him again. Hell, Cheney will probably hire him for her next campaign unless someone else gets there first.
Omnes Omnibus
@Immanentize: I won’t argue.
WaterGirl
@Immanentize: I assume you have a reason for that prediction?
Anonymous At Work
Repeat my bet from before: One of the 10 Republicans gets “very upset” or “extremely concerned” (if Suzy C) at a minor and meaningless change, leading to the entire deal going down. $20 for any takers.
Additional bets: $20 on a Cruz or Hawley Amendment of doG-awfulness doesn’t get a vote and a “signatory” pulls out.
Finally 10:1 that Moscow Mitch holds a press conference and feeds that Senator with a dog biscuit as a treat.
artem1s
looks to me like Liz has made a deal to throw Ghoul-iani and maybe Jared under the bus. Barr and the rest of the TFG’s team who all stood around with their thumbs up their asses on 1/6 get a get-out-of-jail-free card.
WaterGirl
@artem1s: I would really like to disagree with your take. I really would.
Hoping that we find out otherwise during the rest of the hearings.
Nancy
@NotMax:
Laughed out loud