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You are here: Home / Balloon Juice / Easy (Deserving) Target Open Thread: Peter Navarro Has Found Himself A Lawyer

Easy (Deserving) Target Open Thread: Peter Navarro Has Found Himself A Lawyer

by Anne Laurie|  June 17, 202211:45 pm| 83 Comments

This post is in: Balloon Juice, Commentary, Open Threads, Republican Crime Syndicate, Republicans in Disarray!

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And such a lawyer!

Peter Navarro’s attorney today asked the court to delay his trial date so he can go on a book tour to raise money for his defense. His request was denied. pic.twitter.com/cwmkQCBLdI

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) June 17, 2022



NEW: Navarro will go on trial in November for defying a Jan. 6 select committee subpoena. https://t.co/aXzXvevfNM

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) June 17, 2022

Previously: Leeroy Jenkins! –

peeeeeeeeeeeter navarro https://t.co/VNw1jm9trD pic.twitter.com/pN4QDybWH3

— kilgore trout, death to putiner (@KT_So_It_Goes) June 9, 2022


Haterz gonna gloat!

… Of all the denizens of the former administration*’s rogues’ gallery, Navarro had a ludicrously high media profile. He was a bigger presence on the Fox platforms than either the Simpsons or the National Football League. He even popped up on MSNBC, once famously explaining a strategy called “the Green Bay sweep,” by which the Republicans in Congress would delay certifying the 2020 election results long enough that friendly state legislatures would be pressured into sending Trump-pledged delegates to Washington. Navarro’s contribution to the strategy was to never shut the hell up about it. This not only gave the January 6 committee—and ultimately, the Department of Justice—the original outline of the plot, it also severely undermined Navarro’s already threadbare case for blowing off the Congress. How could the U.S. Congress own the only microphones in Washington on which Navarro refused to impale himself? It was ridiculous, and now his bluff has been called…

Of course, there are a number of very big fish still floundering around in the same kind of tiny barrels in which the DOJ popped Navarro. That includes former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, along with former adviser and last surviving heir to House Harkonnen Steve Bannon. Navarro’s indictment better not be the end, but only a beginning. After all, Navarro repeatedly violated Stringer Bell’s rule. Worse, he bragged about it. Bad for business, man.

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83Comments

  1. 1.

    SpaceUnit

    June 17, 2022 at 7:57 pm

    Sounds like he got the lawyer he deserves.

    I was hoping for Rudy but this will do.

  2. 2.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2022 at 8:02 pm

    Navarro should have hired Rusty the dog to save him.

  3. 3.

    NotMax

    June 17, 2022 at 8:06 pm

    Found this snippet in one article noteworthy.

    Navarro’s newly hired attorneys had asked for the trial to be pushed back because Navarro has a book coming out in September and he planned on being on the road through December to promote it. They said he was planning to engage in “an extensive marketing campaign” for the book beginning in August.

    Prosecutor Amanda Vaughn told the judge that the request was “completely unwarranted” and that the Department of Justice had concerns about delaying a criminal trial for a book tour.

    Navarro’s lawyers told the judge they also needed time to analyze what they called the complex legal issues in the case.

    But Mehta did not agree on the need for more time. “It’s not that complicated a case,” he said. Source

  4. 4.

    SpaceUnit

    June 17, 2022 at 8:09 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: 

    That was some high drama. Rusty is a hero.

  5. 5.

    bbleh

    June 17, 2022 at 8:12 pm

    I’m afraid he’s SUCH a clown that it’s not gonna matter much. (Someone more conspiracy-minded might even suggest that was his intention all along, but if you believe that I got an exclusive limited opportunity for you to invest in a time-share lease on a beautiful golden bridge in sunny California.)

    He’ll go to some Club Fed, then make bank on the Victim Circuit. Hell, for the benefit-to-cost, it’ll probably turn out to be the best investment he ever made!  (Likely to his own surprise.)

    Wake me up when Garland et al. decide to take it to Meadows, where there might actually be some legal issues that they would have to fight over. ( Wouldn’t want that … comity, you know.)

  6. 6.

    NotMax

    June 17, 2022 at 8:13 pm

    When does the city of Green Bay file the defamation suit?

    //

  7. 7.

    sab

    June 17, 2022 at 8:13 pm

    Al-Quaeda suspects were water-boarded. Navarro was handcuffed and later shackled, like just about every criminal defendant in America. He’s an “economist” so I don’t expect him to know everything, but the ignorance is stunning.

  8. 8.

    The Moar You Know

    June 17, 2022 at 8:13 pm

    Execute him without a trial.  That’s the kind of society he wants, maybe we should give him a taste of it.

  9. 9.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 17, 2022 at 8:14 pm

    Eric Herschmann’s advice to Eastman applies to Navarro: “Now I’m gonna give you the best free legal advice you’re ever getting in your life. Get a great effing criminal defense lawyer. You’re gonna need it.”

  10. 10.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2022 at 8:14 pm

    @SpaceUnit:

    Indubitably.

  11. 11.

    Spanky

    June 17, 2022 at 8:15 pm

    @NotMax: “Complex legal issues” like not shutting the fuck up? That may warrant a discussion with your client.

  12. 12.

    Spanky

    June 17, 2022 at 8:17 pm

    @sab: More expectation than ignorance. He’s special, don’t you know.

  13. 13.

    sab

    June 17, 2022 at 8:18 pm

    @The Moar You Know: Excuse me No. That may be the society he wants, but not the society I want. I’m good with us continuing to follow the rules I want. At the end we will still have a society of rules and law. Just need to prosecute normally those who break them.

  14. 14.

    debbie

    June 17, 2022 at 8:18 pm

    At long last, the State of Texas has disbarred Sydney Powell.

    https://twitter.com/progressivetex/status/1537916681489551361?s=21&t=vMRArsvUauO8wAPPiYYTAQ

     

    Apparently, not yet, until trial on 6/22.

  15. 15.

    craigie

    June 17, 2022 at 8:19 pm

    How is he not guilty? Did he show up? He did not.

    Case closed.

  16. 16.

    Mike in NC

    June 17, 2022 at 8:20 pm

    Any ‘Top Ten’ list of Trump’s scumbag henchmen must include Peter Navarro.

  17. 17.

    Geminid

    June 17, 2022 at 8:22 pm

    Trump raised $250 million to “stop the steal” but he’s leaving the people who tried to help him high and dry. He might be slipping some dough to people who can hurt him, like Roger Stone.

  18. 18.

    sab

    June 17, 2022 at 8:24 pm

    @debbie: Yay! Back in the early eighties when I was a fledgling lawyer we worried about disbarrment. Time to return to the olden times.

  19. 19.

    sab

    June 17, 2022 at 8:25 pm

    @debbie: Well,  due process is good.

  20. 20.

    NotMax

    June 17, 2022 at 8:29 pm

    ‘@sab

    Or as MTG would say, “blue princess.”

    :)   //

  21. 21.

    debbie

    June 17, 2022 at 8:30 pm

    For JPL: https://twitter.com/adamscumbie/status/1537681679468355584?s=21&t=vMRArsvUauO8wAPPiYYTAQ

  22. 22.

    JPL

    June 17, 2022 at 8:36 pm

    @debbie: omg that is so true.

  23. 23.

    JDM

    June 17, 2022 at 8:39 pm

    “I can tell you ladies and gentlemen that does not typically happen to career criminals”, he said.  “Such as my client”, he forgot to add.

  24. 24.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 17, 2022 at 8:40 pm

    Peter “Ukraine is not even a real country” Navarro can die in a fire as far as I’m concerned.

  25. 25.

    Ruckus

    June 17, 2022 at 8:43 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: 
    Rusty jumped into a river. Of water.

    Navarro jumped into a river. Of his own shit. Rusty is far smarter than to jump into river of shit that came out of the asshole in the canoe.

  26. 26.

    VeniceRiley

    June 17, 2022 at 8:46 pm

    Chef kiss

    ”Last surviving heir to House Harkonnen, Steve Bannon”

    Last day at my jerb. 20 years. Off the cliff in a chute and landing in England in 10 days….. wheeee. My massive unspent PTO was a nice check on the way out.

  27. 27.

    Old School

    June 17, 2022 at 8:48 pm

    @VeniceRiley: Congrats!

  28. 28.

    Calouste

    June 17, 2022 at 8:53 pm

    @sab:

    He’s an “economist” so I don’t expect him to know everything anything

    FTFY

  29. 29.

    danielx

    June 17, 2022 at 8:53 pm

    I can tell you ladies and gentlemen that does not typically happen to career criminals

    Actually it does happen to career criminals and for that matter amateur criminals on a daily basis.

  30. 30.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 17, 2022 at 8:55 pm

    @danielx: Navarro could have used Herschmann’s advice, then.  Navarro didn’t hire a great effin’ criminal defense lawyer.

  31. 31.

    WaterGirl

    June 17, 2022 at 8:58 pm

    @VeniceRiley: Wow, it’s really happening!

  32. 32.

    sab

    June 17, 2022 at 9:04 pm

    @Calouste:  “Economist” was in quotes to not disparage real economists.

  33. 33.

    West of the Rockies

    June 17, 2022 at 9:05 pm

    Navarro is always, always a fountain of arrogance, anger, and self-righteous privilege.   He must be fo much fun at parties and during sexy time with his partner.

  34. 34.

    Raoul Paste

    June 17, 2022 at 9:12 pm

    @VeniceRiley:   Congratulations

    Also, I enjoyed the Harkonnen reference too

  35. 35.

    sab

    June 17, 2022 at 9:13 pm

    @sab: @Calouste: So still works with your edit.

  36. 36.

    Tony G

    June 17, 2022 at 9:15 pm

    @NotMax: I would gladly donate a shiny nickel to Navarro’s defense fund.

  37. 37.

    Cameron

    June 17, 2022 at 9:15 pm

    @Calouste: An economist?  Working for Trump?  What the hell kind of school of economics would that be – Mousetrap?  Handjob?

  38. 38.

    Anyway

    June 17, 2022 at 9:17 pm

     

    @VeniceRiley:

    Congrats and Happy Trails! At my jerb they don’t allow us to accumulate PTO like the oldtimers say they could — to prevent a nice payout on retirement or if your job goes poof…

  39. 39.

    CaseyL

    June 17, 2022 at 9:20 pm

    @VeniceRiley:

    Congrats!  How long will you be in Old Blighty?

  40. 40.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2022 at 9:33 pm

    Watch a Texas man fend off an emu with a pool noodle.

    Oh, and it’s his pet emu.

  41. 41.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 17, 2022 at 9:34 pm

    @Anyway: My company allowed people to accumulate it, until they realized what a liability that was, so they stopped, but grandfathered in the old folks (like me.) So when I retired last year I had about 100 days of unused vacation time that they had to cash out. That was nice.

  42. 42.

    Ruckus

    June 17, 2022 at 9:39 pm

    @Tony G: 
    He’s in the most asshole for the least money category. He’s not the president of the club mind you but he is a certified member.

    And he’s still not worth a penny. Unless said penny was used for the ride to jail for something like at least a decade. That I would give a penny for. Hell I might splurge for the nickel in that case.

  43. 43.

    VeniceRiley

    June 17, 2022 at 9:46 pm

    They cap at mine at 400ish so a 10 week max but I had less because I took a bunch off to get married and … frankly to take Wednesdays just to break the week up. @Anyway:

  44. 44.

    VeniceRiley

    June 17, 2022 at 9:46 pm

    @CaseyL: I leave a week from Sunday!

  45. 45.

    raven

    June 17, 2022 at 9:47 pm

    @VeniceRiley: Way  to go!

  46. 46.

    VeniceRiley

    June 17, 2022 at 9:49 pm

    @WaterGirl: it is really happening now. Hurry up then wait then the flood of change! But I’m doing bits of accomplishments every day. Porting phone number. Changing addresses, throwing shit out, selling the car….

     

    who wants to Buy  an OLED tv? I’m about to put it on fb marketplace. Bargain as it is pic on glass and an integrated soundbar. SoCal pickup here only 650.

  47. 47.

    CaseyL

    June 17, 2022 at 9:50 pm

    @VeniceRiley: Wait, are you moving to England??

  48. 48.

    VeniceRiley

    June 17, 2022 at 9:54 pm

    Yes I am moving to England.
    Raven I hope to find out what my grandfather did in WWI France sometime since our records are burnt!

  49. 49.

    NotMax

    June 17, 2022 at 10:03 pm

    ‘@VeniceRiley

    Brentrance!

  50. 50.

    SteveinPHX

    June 17, 2022 at 10:06 pm

    @VeniceRiley:

     
    Have fun!

  51. 51.

    J R in WV

    June 17, 2022 at 10:19 pm

    @VeniceRiley:

    I understand getting out of here…

    But to jolly ol’ England?

    Land of Brexit???

    Nope.

  52. 52.

    Ken

    June 17, 2022 at 10:28 pm

    “Your honor, we move for a delay so defendant can go on a book tour to raise money to pay his lawyers.”

    “Denied.”

    “Then we ask to be removed as his lawyers.”

    Joke’s on them anyway, unless some donor buys half a million copies, it won’t sell more than a couple hundred.

  53. 53.

    tokyocali (formerly tokyo ex-pat)

    June 17, 2022 at 10:31 pm

    Can I get help from any California or lawyer folks? I received a call to jury duty for the US Southern California Courts district. I have California residency but I live and work in Japan. There is a form to fill out. I stated that my primary residence was not in the county and gave my current address. In the asking for excuse section, the only ones listed are over 70, primary caregiver, served on a petit or grand jury in the last 2 years, and if you are a volunteer safety member. There is a comment box after that and once again I said that I am not currently in the US.

    Do I go ahead and hit send? Is there anything more I should say? And does anyone have any idea what likely happens next?

    One more thing. I could not open the weblink so I scanned the QR code and did it on my phone, but now it’s saying that to have a copy of my answers to use my browser print function. But I’m on my phone. How can I print off those answers?

  54. 54.

    Steeplejack

    June 17, 2022 at 10:38 pm

    @VeniceRiley:

    Congratulations! ⌚  (I couldn’t find a gold watch, so please accept this low-end Citizen as a token of management’s appreciation.)

  55. 55.

    Steeplejack

    June 17, 2022 at 10:40 pm

    @sab:

    Replied to you downstairs.

  56. 56.

    Scout211

    June 17, 2022 at 10:43 pm

    @tokyocali (formerly tokyo ex-pat):

    You can try to call the court directly:

    https://www.casd.uscourts.gov/jurors/summons-for-jury-Service.aspx#:~:text=You%20can%20also%20call%20the,AM%20on%20jury%20selection%20days.

    Important Reporting Instructions
    You can find out if you need to report for jury service by logging in to eJuror On-line. You’ll need your 9 digit Juror Participant Number located on the front of your Summons for Jury Service. Once you log in, click on the Current Status link on the left side of the web page.

    You can also call the Jury Information Line at (800) 998-9035. Select option #2 on the menu and follow the voice prompts.

    The Jury Assembly Room opens at 7:00 AM on jury selection days.

  57. 57.

    Scout211

    June 17, 2022 at 10:45 pm

    @tokyocali (formerly tokyo ex-pat):

    There is a phone number you can call:

    Important Reporting Instructions
    You can find out if you need to report for jury service by logging in to eJuror On-line. You’ll need your 9 digit Juror Participant Number located on the front of your Summons for Jury Service. Once you log in, click on the Current Status link on the left side of the web page.

    You can also call the Jury Information Line at (800) 998-9035. Select option #2 on the menu and follow the voice prompts.

    The Jury Assembly Room opens at 7:00 AM on jury selection days.

  58. 58.

    Another Scott

    June 17, 2022 at 10:45 pm

    @tokyocali (formerly tokyo ex-pat): If you’re more than 80 miles one-way away, they’ll pay a nominal amount to put you up in a hotel (as I read this) – maybe they’ll pay your airfare??

    :-)

    Seriously, a judge here in NoVA excused me from jury duty to go on my honeymoon in Hawaii, so all the excuses aren’t listed on the forms.

    You probably need to talk to a human. There’s an 800 number on the link above – maybe it will work for you?

    Good luck!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  59. 59.

    Steeplejack

    June 17, 2022 at 10:49 pm

    @tokyocali (formerly tokyo ex-pat):

    Don’t know if this is helpful, but a few years ago I got a forwarded letter here in NoVA summoning me for jury duty in Atlanta, which I left in 2005. The due date was very close, so I called the court and, after some phone-tree gymnastics, was able to get hold of a person who gave me an email address to which I could send a photograph of my current Virginia driver’s license.

    Do you have some Japanese-centric doc that you could use to show that you are currently living out of the USA? I would explore that on the phone rather than fiddling around with the paper form. You are a classic “edge case” that is not going to fit into the usual pigeonholes.

  60. 60.

    tokyocali (formerly tokyo ex-pat)

    June 17, 2022 at 10:50 pm

    @Another Scott: Thanks very much! I’ll see what I can do. With the time difference, it can be difficult finding someone to talk to when I’m available to call and they are open.

  61. 61.

    Steeplejack

    June 17, 2022 at 10:52 pm

    @tokyocali (formerly tokyo ex-pat):

    Just resign yourself to getting up in the middle of the night and calling then.

  62. 62.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2022 at 11:00 pm

    The GOPers are barking up the fact that “Stephen Colbert’s staffers were arrested for “BREAKING INTO THE CAPITOL!!!!!!”

    Who actually was it?

    CBS confirms that it was Triumph the Insult Comic Dog (and staff) who were detained at the Capitol last night

  63. 63.

    tokyocali (formerly tokyo ex-pat)

    June 17, 2022 at 11:02 pm

    @Steeplejack: I guess so. I can’t believe how nervous this makes me feel.

    One other odd thing. As this is a federal request, I was surprised that when they asked for gender, labeled Sex, there was only male and female. I would have thought there would be more options. They had lots of options for race. Unfortunately, they did not have White but not a butthead option.

  64. 64.

    Ken

    June 17, 2022 at 11:03 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: I’m sure the dog was trained well enough that it didn’t shit on the floor.

  65. 65.

    West of the Rockies

    June 17, 2022 at 11:03 pm

    What if you blow off the jury duty summons?

    My county sure doesn’t have the deputies to go out for that sort of thing.  They don’t respond to misdemeanor cold burglaries here.

  66. 66.

    tokyocali (formerly tokyo ex-pat)

    June 17, 2022 at 11:08 pm

    @Steeplejack: Thanks again. I submitted the form through the Internet. It says that they will review it and that I might be called, in which case I will receive an email. So, I am thinking perhaps I should see if that email ever comes and if it does then get on the phone. I have the Japanese equivalent of a Green Card, but it’s in Japanese!

  67. 67.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 17, 2022 at 11:10 pm

    @Ken: 

    Indeed.

  68. 68.

    Kent

    June 17, 2022 at 11:11 pm

    @West of the Rockies:

    Bad idea.

    Just because they don’t send a deputy out to arrest you doesn’t mean they aren’t going to enter you into the system with a warrant out for your arrest so that the next time you get pulled over you wind up in handcuffs.   Or the next time someone runs a background check on you an outstanding warrant pops up.

    Courts are generally reasonable if you engage with them.  But they do deal with bullshit excuses every single day so best have a good one.  Being in Japan seems like a really really good excuse.

  69. 69.

    Brachiator

    June 17, 2022 at 11:13 pm

    @tokyocali (formerly tokyo ex-pat): 

    If you don’t live in the appropriate county you can provide your addresss and ask to be disqualified.

  70. 70.

    Another Scott

    June 17, 2022 at 11:20 pm

    @Kent: +1

    The people whose job it is to make sure that people respond to summons have rules they have to follow.  One of those rules doesn’t include “just let it slide for no reason”.  Courts need jurors.  They don’t need **you** in particular, but they need a good reason to excuse you, and one should make an effort to help the people who have the power to excuse you to do so by not having a BS excuse and not making more work and difficulty for them (like forcing them to come looking for you).

    Just ignoring the government is almost always a really, really bad idea.  Witness all the horror stories about people being deported for something long, long ago.  The government has an infinitely long memory when it wants to…

    Thanks.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  71. 71.

    Keith P.

    June 17, 2022 at 11:33 pm

    This is the guy that Jared found by looking at Amazon book reviews?

  72. 72.

    Another Scott

    June 17, 2022 at 11:47 pm

    @Keith P.: Yup.

    VF (from 2017):

    At one point during the campaign, when Trump wanted to speak more substantively about China, he gave Kushner a summary of his views and then asked him to do some research. Kushner simply went on Amazon, where he was struck by the title of one book, Death by China, co-authored by Peter Navarro. He cold-called Navarro, a well-known trade-deficit hawk, who agreed to join the team as an economic adviser. (When he joined, Navarro was in fact the campaign’s only economic adviser.) Kushner operated in much the same way when it came to crafting Trump’s tax plan—calling up someone for help out of the blue. Given the initial absence of pros who could do the job properly, he also tried his hand at writing speeches. Responding to criticism from the boss (“Jared, this is terrible!”), Kushner said, according to a person familiar with the episode, “I’m not a fucking speechwriter. I am a real-estate guy.”

    Grr…,
    Scott.

  73. 73.

    SectionH

    June 17, 2022 at 11:47 pm

    @VeniceRiley: That’s wonderful news! Congratulations! I lived in England (well, Yorkshire, which used to consider itself almost a separate country), did reluctantly go back to the US.  Also had a good friend who married an Englishman. They went through all the processes both directions. She’s proud that she got her full British citizenship (citizen seems to apply to the English anyway). Don’t let the Brexit OMG folks get you down, at least from this side of the Pond. Best wishes.

    Probably too late, but I’m also sending AL an email with my email and phone # re your OLED tv.

  74. 74.

    Old School

    June 17, 2022 at 11:50 pm

    @Keith P.: Yes.  He liked a book on China

    Edit: Shakes first at Scott.

  75. 75.

    tokyocali (formerly tokyo ex-pat)

    June 18, 2022 at 12:05 am

    @Kent:  @Another Scott: Yes, I agree. It said that if you did not fill out the form, you could be required at your own expense to come down to the courthouse to do it. It’s much easier to fill in the form. Also, I’m not about to do anything that would screw up my ability to travel between the US and Japan or put my residency in Japan at risk. I’ll do what I have to do, but I hope being abroad is a reasonable excuse. Thanks for all the input!

     

    @Brachiator: Thank you. I’ll look into that.

  76. 76.

    Kent

    June 18, 2022 at 12:25 am

    Since this is an open thread, has anyone else caught the new AMC series Dark Winds based on the Tony Hillerman novels about the Navajo Tribal Police? I watched the first two episodes last night. Very very good. Produced by Robert Redford and JRR Martin so there is a lot of money and production values behind it. They really centered it on the Navajo.  And the female deputy has a larger role in the series than I remember from the books.  The white characters are all very peripheral.

    Here is the trailer: https://youtu.be/TcmY-9eeBIM

    The novels are all excellent. But I read them years ago so maybe I’m due for a re-read.

  77. 77.

    kalakal

    June 18, 2022 at 12:37 am

    @VeniceRiley: Wow! Congratulations. Give my regards to dear old blighty. I’m very fond of the old dump. Whereabouts in the UK are you going to?

  78. 78.

    Anne Laurie

    June 18, 2022 at 2:09 am

    @Kent: IMO, Tony Hillerman’s novels stand up very well to re-reading!

    Also —  his daughter, Anne Hillerman, has continued the series, wisely focusing on (female) Deputy Bernie Manuelito.  This may be why AMC is pumping up her role in the new series.

    (Anne’s books are not Tony’s, but they are still very good.)

  79. 79.

    Ruckus

    June 18, 2022 at 3:48 am

    @VeniceRiley: 
    Congrats.
    Retirement feels good!
    I am about 8 months in and still somewhat getting used to it but I have to say it does feel like I can handle it just fine.

    The UK was one country that I’ve visited but not for a long time at all. Ship stopped in Portsmouth for refueling and I emptied our shops trash can so I could say I had been to the UK. So I believe under 6 minutes. Still, have been to the UK…..

  80. 80.

    Ruckus

    June 18, 2022 at 3:55 am

    @tokyocali (formerly tokyo ex-pat):

    I’ve been called a few times for jury duty but there was one time that I really couldn’t do it because I owned a one person business. Of course I was living in the county so not your rational. A number of us called up had similar issues and were told that it is unlikely we’d get excused. About 15 went into a courtroom with a judge and he asked a couple questions and said OK, you’re all excused. Actually living several thousand miles away would have easily qualified.

  81. 81.

    Mai Naem mobile

    June 18, 2022 at 4:28 am

    @Mike in NC: I actually don’t think he would even make the top 10. You’ve got Roger Stone, Bannon, McGahn, Kushner, Mulvaney, Pompeo, Bill Barr, Kudlow, Mnuchin, Pruitt, Zinke, Priebus and thats off the top of my head. He had so many awful people I don’t even remember their names.

  82. 82.

    evodevo

    June 18, 2022 at 7:16 am

    @Kent:  Sorry…I was a Hillerman fan years ago, and this TV adaptation is…strange to me…parts/characterizations don’t really mesh with what I remember in the books…but I don’t have the time at the moment to drag my copies out of storage and research it…

  83. 83.

    J R in WV

    June 18, 2022 at 11:01 am

    I’ve done jury duty several times for county/state courts, including one log day of Grand Jury where the Prosecutor took turns with cops telling us about crimes, and then we raised our hands to issue an indictment. I didn’t raise my hand for the pot charges, but Grand Jury doesn’t need to be unanimous, so no big deal.

    The sex abuse of children were the worst crimes, and some of those guys were stuck in their compulsion, knowing that John Law was going to look at their devices, there was still new kiddy porn on there. One guy creep had made a porn video with his little girl starring, was horrible, and we just saw stills the cop printed out. Way worse than the murder trials with autopsy photos…  was 20 years ago and I still remember!

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