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  1. 1.

    lollipopguild

    You get a pardon, and you get a pardon and everyone gets a pardon.  Here in Kentucky we had a gop gov who was so corrupt he pardoned every person who had worked for him as well as pardoning himself.

  2. 2.

    Ruckus

    There seems to be a common theme here.

    The requests for pardons are from exactly the people you would expect to be asking. It isn’t the entire list of expected askers by any means of course but is there anyone on the list who was unexpected?

  3. 3.

    JoyceH

    Interesting that Gaetz was asking for a ‘blanket pardon’, and started lobbying for it in early December – he was trying to make that sex investigation go away.

  4. 4.

    Steeplejack

    Hearing-related, updated from this morning.

    I’ve been following the GoFundMe drives for Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss, the two Georgia poll workers who testified at the January 6 committee hearing on Tuesday. Both drives were started last December but went almost nowhere until Tuesday. I think Ruby Freeman was around $60,000 late Tuesday, and now (this afternoon) she’s up to $266,476. Shaye Moss is at $222,738.

    These women are heroes, and they deserve every penny they get after all of the pain and suffering they went through—and still are. They are an inspiration to us all. I donated to both drives, and I urge all jackals to consider doing the same, if they can afford it.

    Note: These are the bona fide GoFundMe accounts for these two women. It has come out that several other accounts have been established, of doubtful provenance.

  5. 5.

    Cameron

    @Ruckus: I was initially surprised by Gohmert.  I figured he was too stupid for anybody to bring on board.  My error – I forgot how stupid ALL of them are.

  6. 6.

    Jerzy Russian

    I wonder if everyone named Jeff Clark can sue for reimbursement of the expenses associated with changing their names.

  7. 7.

    Leto

    @Ruckus: Oh, I’m sure the names who aren’t there still crimed their little hearts out. Just give it time. The commission’s work keeps on keeping on. Honestly, some of the best “must see tv” in a while.

  8. 8.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    From studying law on MSNBC a couple hours a week these past few months (okay, years), I believe pleading the fifth cannot be used against a defendant in a criminal trial. What about a request for a pardon? evidence of consciousness of guilt?

  9. 9.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Cameron:

    I was initially surprised by Gohmert.  I figured he was too stupid for anybody to bring on board.

    Yeah, but when he tried to ask for a pardon, he actually asked for a parsnip

  11. 11.

    JPL

    Did Elise Stefanik forget that she said she would be giving a good rebuttal to the hearings and show trump’s side?

  13. 13.

    Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    If bar associations were run by people of integrity (hah), I’d say that invoking the Fifth regarding questions of legal advice you gave to a client would be an admission against interest for the purposes of receiving discipline and potential suspension of your license.

  17. 17.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @TriassicSands: but if you asked for a pardon that wasn’t granted? as far as we know?

    One of my tin-foil hat questions is are there: signed and dated pardons, including a self-pardon, in wall-safes or safety deposit boxes in Florida and some of the nicer DC suburbs.

  19. 19.

    Tony Jay

    “What did you think you needed a Presidential pardon for?”

    “……. nuthin. Just thought it’d be cool to have one is all.”

    “But you didn’t get one, did you?”

    Gulp!

  22. 22.

    Raoul Paste

    On MSNBC, Claire McCaskill just asked why are we not searching  Mark Meadows house today

  23. 23.

    Ruckus

    @Cameron:

    They are stupid, no question.

    But too stupid to do criming? Nope. A definition of criming is being too stupid not to. See my next line.

    Too stupid to not get caught criming? Yep.

  25. 25.

    Tony Jay

    Plus, following that twitter thread on, did Clarence Thomas really ‘justify’ expanding concealed carry with reference to a butchered quote from Chief Justice Taney about the threat of armed Negros?

    There’s trolling, and then there’s whatever messed up acting out of deep seated neuroses that is.

    What a sad little wanker.

  28. 28.

    germy shoemangler

    The January 6 Committee is an unconstitutional political sideshow. It is rapidly losing the interest of the American people and now resorts to siccing federal law enforcement on political opponents.

    — Rep. Matt Gaetz (@RepMattGaetz) June 23, 2022

    You know he was gritting his teeth while he typed this

  29. 29.

    citizen dave

    I’m dreaming of an end like goodfellas with the stones/clapton soundtrack and the perp walks, etc

    Too bad the FBI can’t livestream their searches.

  33. 33.

    Geminid

    @JoyceH: I read a news story saying that while Gaetz asked for his own pardon, he recommended that his former friend Joel Greenberg’s pardon request be denied. I imagine that story made Greenberg really want to help put Gaetz away.

    Prosecutors have been rounding up more witnesses, and Greenberg’s sentencing judge has given them a sort-of deadline of August for Greenberg’s sentencing and by implication, indictments of Gaetz. In the meantime Greenberg is sitting in the Orange County, Florida jail.

  34. 34.

    Baud

    @JPL:

    When Trump and company are indicted, I promise you the Internet spin will be that Biden messed up by helping DeSantis.

  35. 35.

    TriassicSands

    One extraordinary hearing after another. Each one compelling. Among the best use of television in history.

    Only a brain dead imbecile or a psychotic cult member could watch these hearings and not realize the truth — Donald Trump and the Republican Party have been and are actively involved in behavior that threatens the foundations of this country. Of course, that is why few if any of the people who really need to watch these hearings will watch them. You can continue to insist the Earth is flat as long as you don’t put yourself in a position where you can see the obvious curvature¹. The best defense against the truth is utter, total, complete, overwhelming ignorance.

    ¹ Even then, the devout cult member can simply deny what is right in front of them.

  37. 37.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @germy shoemangler:

    The January 6 Committee is an unconstitutional political sideshow. It is rapidly losing the interest of the American people

    Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1
    Quinnipiac poll:
    64% of Americans say the Jan. 6 attack was planned, rather than spontaneous.

    58% are following news about the work of the Jan. 6 Committee very or somewhat closely.

    59% think Trump bears a lot or some of the responsibility for the Jan. 6 attack.

    sorry Matt (my boldface)

  42. 42.

    JPL

    @Baud: She was married and still was able to have multiple affairs at the same time.   Of course, she’s efficient.

  44. 44.

    TriassicSands

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I wonder if your questions have ever been adjudicated. One could argue that asking for a pardon implies understanding that acceptance will constitute admission of guilt, which is voluntary self-incrimination.  And that should certainly be discussed if a pardon will be offered. But in this case the pardons didn’t materialize. The current intellectual state of the union is so wanting that the person in question could always argue that they didn’t know that and would never have asked for a pardon if they had known that.

  48. 48.

    Burnspbesq

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    What about a request for a pardon? evidence of consciousness of guilt?

    Can’t find anything definitive on the point with a quick search, but if the mental state for the offense is willfulness, it seems intuitively obvious that it would be highly relevant.

  50. 50.

    Martin

    @JPL: I attribute that to a lack of object permanence on her part. If she wanders too far from her husband she assumes he doesn’t exist any longer.

  51. 51.

    JoyceH

    Hey does anyone else think this hearing being postponed might have been at the request of DOJ, which had the Clark search warrant in the works?

  53. 53.

    Burnspbesq

    @TriassicSands:

    Only a brain dead imbecile or a psychotic cult member could watch these hearings and not realize the truth — Donald Trump and the Republican Party have been and are actively involved in behavior that threatens the foundations of this country.

    True. But Trump et al have convinced tens of millions of your fellow Americans that the foundations of this country suck.

  54. 54.

    West of the Rockies

    The warden commits suicide at the end of The Shawshank Redemption. If Trumpian criminals make that choice, I do not care.

  57. 57.

    Delk

    I hope whoever searched Clark’s kitchen accidentally knocked over a bottle of cooking oil.

  58. 58.

    Jeffro

    @Xavier: this is 110% the entirety of the GQP’s strategy from here on out…fingers in ears re: J6, keep harping on gas prices, and hope it works.

    “They WANT working Americans paying extremely high prices at the pump.  They don’t care who it hurts.  They have no solutions to bring prices down.  And they think you’ll be dumb enough to vote them into power.” – every Dem campaign at every level this year, hopefully.

  59. 59.

    Ken

    @TriassicSands: The current intellectual state of the union is so wanting that the person in question could always argue that they didn’t know that and would never have asked for a pardon if they had known that.

    Ah yes, the old “I’m in Congress — you can’t expect me to know and understand the law” defense.

  60. 60.

    Spanky

    @TriassicSands:

    Only a brain dead imbecile or a psychotic cult member could watch these hearings and not realize the truth — Donald Trump and the Republican Party have been and are actively involved in behavior that threatens the foundations of this country.

    And a large minority of this country is OK with that.

  62. 62.

    Captain C

    @Tony Jay:

    Plus, following that twitter thread on, did Clarence Thomas really ‘justify’ expanding concealed carry with reference to a butchered quote from Chief Justice Taney about the threat of armed Negros?

    Sounds about right.  Thomas will also probably write the opinions for overturning Loving, which could end his marriage (this could be a plus for him) and for declaring the 13th through 15th Amendments invalid, which could end his freedom, and that of his kids.  He’ll probably be proud of doing so, until he’s hauled off in chains to work for his ex-wife Ginni’s family.

  63. 63.

    Citizen Alan

    @Tony Jay:  Totally unsurprising. Clarence Thomas is basically Uncle Ruckus from The Boondocks if he somehow got an Ivy League law degree. The only reason he got appointed is because he’s a black man who hates all other black men and is totally supportive of white supremacy.

  64. 64.

    Captain C

    @germy shoemangler: Every time Gaetz is in front of a media person, he should be asked something along the lines of, “so how many underage kids have you raped so far?”  Every fucking time.

  66. 66.

    Captain C

    @Geminid:

    I read a news story saying that while Gaetz asked for his own pardon, he recommended that his former friend Joel Greenberg’s pardon request be denied. I imagine that story made Greenberg really want to help put Gaetz away.

    While I’m not surprised that the Trumpy criminals are so inept that they leave extensive records of their criming, I am a little amazed that they seem to think they can screw their co-conspirators while said people still have a chance to nark them out.

  68. 68.

    Lacuna Synecdoche

    @TriassicSands:  You can continue to insist the Earth is flat as long as you don’t put yourself in a position where you can see the obvious curvature¹. …

    ¹ Even then, the devout cult member can simply deny what is right in front of them.

    Yes, yes, it looks curved — but you’re forgetting about the cleverly placed black hole beneath our flat earth that bends light!

    (Actual theory I read once from a alleged flat-earther. Could have been someone pretending to be a flat-eather, though, as I’m kind of skeptical that an actual flat-earther would accept the existence of a black hole, but not a round earth.)

  69. 69.

    Geminid

    @Captain C: Yeah, I think Thomas’s end game is to abrogate Loving. He’s a very strict Catholic so divorce is out of the question. In desperation, Thomas has latched on to overturning of Loving as the only way he can rid himself of that horrible harpy!

  70. 70.

    Tony Jay

    @Captain C:

    @Citizen Alan:

    I’m aware of the concept of a self-hating (fill in the blank), but I never thought I’d ever see such a dialed up to 11 example outside of badly written fiction.

    Kind of explains why he married Ginni.

  71. 71.

    Shana

    @JoyceH: Speaking of which, is Greenburg (?) ever going to be sentenced or is he still giving up valuable info? It must be close to a year since I’ve heard anything about him. They just keep delaying his sentencing

    And I see it’s been answered at around #34. Thanks.

  74. 74.

    Tony Jay

    @TriassicSands:

    Well yeah, but as was discussed last week, their country and your country might share a geographical location, but they are very different places, and to their minds they can’t commit treason against a country they don’t belong to.

    The White Settler-State of Traditional America is a hard mistress.

  75. 75.

    David ☘The Establishment☘ Koch

     

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to sublet Jeff Clark’s abode

  76. 76.

    Geminid

    @Captain C: Greenberg was up to his eyeballs in provable charges by then, so he already had reason to be a cooperating witness. But this Gaetz pardon story must have made him that much more eager to hang his former friend.

    I just hope that the prosecutors have other good witnesses against Gaetz. I think we’ll know in two months, maybe sooner.

  77. 77.

    CaseyL

    Every time I think I know how loathsome Trumpists are, I’m proven wrong: they’re even worse than I thought.

    How does a creature like Trump with such a complete lack of redeeming qualities – to call him a spirochete is an insult to syphilis –  find and keep people willing to abase themselves for him?

  78. 78.

    JPL

    @Captain C: Makes sense in a twisted way, since if Greenberg is pardoned, his charges are real.  That would only implicate Gaetz more.

  79. 79.

    James E Powell

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    And that majority is who we need to be talking to every day.

    It’s anecdotal, but I use my barely engaged sister who votes Democratic as a rough gauge of the low information voter.

    Until I mentioned it to her this morning, she was not aware of the hearings at all and did not know any of the things being established on the air..

    Voters like her aren’t going to get information from the news because they don’t watch the news. They have to get it from us, their friends & associates, or it will not register as something they should pay attention to or care about.

  80. 80.

    MazeDancer

    Looking forward to the DeSantis Showdown. Ron gotta be liking these hearings.

    Hoping Don kneecaps Ron while he still can. And encourages a revenge write-in candidate for Gov.

  82. 82.

    Lacuna Synecdoche

    @Geminid: Yeah, I think Thomas’s end game is to abrogate Loving. He’s a very strict Catholic so divorce is out of the question.

    Of course we think Ginni Thomas is awful (because we’re part of  the reality-based community), but I can’t think of any reason why Clarence would would want to divorce her.

    I mean, they seem perfect for each other.

  84. 84.

    JPL

    @Frank Wilhoit: ha He married into a wealthy family, so he’s fine with whatever.  One of the affairs was highlighted in the New Yorker and it was a COX family heir, she couldn’t dispute, because she’s not that wealthy.

  86. 86.

    sab

    @Tony Jay: UK Law and Order said that in England you have the opposite of the 5th amendment. Failing to answer questions can be used against you as an indication that you have something to hide.

  88. 88.

    Spanky

    “Spanky”, I keep telling myself, “half the American electorate is below average intelligence.”

    Largely invisible in the circle I move in, I have to keep reminding myself that they’re out there.

  89. 89.

    lowtechcyclist

    @debbie: “From the beginning of time.”

    “In the beginning the Universe was created.

    “This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.”

  90. 90.

    sab

    @CaseyL: If you have ever worked near a narcissist you’d have seen it. The minions are so busy clawing each others eyes out to impress the boss that they don’t think things though. They are all badly damaged people themselves.

  91. 91.

    Tony Jay

    @sab:

    The actual wording is –

    “You do not have to say anything. But, it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence.”

    As always, what that turns out to mean depends a lot on how expensive your lawyer is.

  92. 92.

    Gin & Tonic

    8 years, 7 months, and 10 days — and revolution, war and massive bloodshed, I would add — after Mustafa published his call on Facebook for Ukrainians to come to Maidan and protest Yanukovych’s decision to abandon a deal with the EU, Ukraine has been granted EU candidate status. https://t.co/dYr5TpJrsW
    — Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) June 23, 2022

    Tens of thousands dead, millions displaced for this. Contrast that with the stupid motherfuckers in England who were too good for the EU.

  95. 95.

    sab

    OT Why isn’t the right to bear arms limited to muskets and primitive rifles? Were our rich ancestors allowed to own cannons?

  96. 96.

    Steeplejack

    @Tony Jay:

    This was not a big deal when I was at Midsomer Law School, because the guilty party is always apprehended. There might be an occasional plot twist hiccup, but it all gets sorted in the end.

  101. 101.

    MomSense

    @Steeplejack:

    As horrible as his mentions must be, he definitely doesn’t want to change his Twitter handle.  He has made the absolute best of this unfortunate situation.

  102. 102.

    lowtechcyclist

    @H.E.Wolf: ​
     

    The US House is going on recess for 2 weeks, returning on July 12th.

    Oh, thank goodness! Due to various things coming up at work and at home, I’ve only been able to watch the first hearing and half of the third. Now I can catch up!

    Meanwhile the Jan. 6 Committee staffers will be hard at work.

    I would never have doubted it. They know they’ve got the bad guys on the run, and don’t want to let up.

  105. 105.

    Wyatt Salamanca

    @West of the Rockies:

    The warden commits suicide at the end of The Shawshank Redemption.

    I used to think that was how Trump would leave office after losing to Biden.  The only appropriate ending for this bastard is to die in prison along with Giuliani, Eastman, Ellis, and Powell.

  106. 106.

    MomSense

    @Tony Jay:

    What an asshole – plus there’s the states rights for forced birth (abortion) but states can’t make any laws about guns.  Fucking pubic coke Justice is an abomination.

  107. 107.

    Steeplejack

    @MomSense:

    He has done a great job of joking about it and getting the word out, to the point that random people will correct nitwit commenters.

  109. 109.

    Steve in the ATL

    @raven: our QB room is well stocked and we don’t need the circus that will come with Arch!

    Been too busy with life and work.  And Europe!

  111. 111.

    Dan B

    @sab: Boiling oil and flaming arrows should be in the concealed weapons file.  Spears?  Must stick past battlements, sadly.

  112. 112.

    CaseyL

    Those 6 or 10 or however many MOC who were part of the scheme should be barred from being seated in the next session.  Hell, Pelosi should have refused to seat them for this session.

    And I want some Senators barred, too.  The J6 Committee isn’t talking much about them.  But the final electoral slate count took place, I believe, in a joint Session, where insurrectionist Senators were able to object to electoral votes being accepted.  Those are the ones I want to see barred from their seats.

  115. 115.

    NotMax

    Follow the money. (WaPo link.)

    The Justice Department is asking a federal judge to probe possible financial relationships between members of the Oath Keepers accused of trying to prevent Joe Biden from becoming president and a nonprofit entity run by former Donald Trump attorney Sidney Powell that spread false election claims.
    [snip]
    The unusual request follows media reports that Powell’s nonprofit organization, Defending the Republic, has used some of the millions of dollars it has raised through spreading conspiracy theories about the 2020 election to pay legal fees for Oath Keepers members facing trial.… Source

  116. 116.

    hilts

    Don Lemon, the king of cool among cable news hosts, interviews Alex Holder tonight at 10:00

  118. 118.

    kalakal

    @sab: The UK wording on being arrested is

    “You do not have to say anything. But, it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence.”

  119. 119.

    phdesmond

    WaPo:

    Former president Donald Trump has said privately for months that McCarthy’s decision to pull pro-Trump Republicans from sitting on the Jan. 6 select committee was a mistake, one that has become clearer as Trump watches the hearings that are working to build the case that he should be criminally charged for conspiring to overturn the 2020 presidential election.

  124. 124.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @CaseyL:  Hell, Pelosi should have refused to seat them for this session.

    She can’t do that. Expulsion requires a two-thirds vote of the whole House.

  132. 132.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Baud: a long graph and I don’t have it broken down into years, but it looks like the Thomas nomination was a big hit

    that was after Poppy’s big boost from the first Gulf War, no?’

    ETA: Gulf War ended in Feb. 91, Thomas nominated in July

  134. 134.

    Elizabelle

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: 

    Expulsion requires a two-thirds vote of the whole House.

    There is precedent, in the great state of South Dakota, ridding itself of state attorney general Jason Ravnsborg earlier this week. First successful impeachment there ever.

    Clear evidence of lying, criminal behavior, possibly dragging the rest of them down? (Ravnsborg hit and killed a man walking along a highway, and then lied about it.)

    It could happen in Congress, if the conditions are right.

  135. 135.

    Obvious Russian Troll

    @phdesmond: 

    This is one of the extremely rare occasions I’m gonna agree with the former guy. Kevin McCarthy absolutely fucked up the J6 committee for the Republicans.

    Thankfully.

  136. 136.

    Captain C

    @Wyatt Salamanca:

    The only appropriate ending for this bastard is to die in prison along with Giuliani, Eastman, Ellis, and Powell.

    If we arrange that he could share a cell, Seinfeld ending-like, with Beavis, Butthead, and Lucrezia (his 3 kids by Ivana), that would be very acceptable, especially if there was a continuous live feed complete with audio.  Money generated thusly could be used to compensate his many victimsl.

  138. 138.

    Scout211

    @Obvious Russian Troll:

    Sure, but do you really think pulling that power play by yanking all of his nominees when Speaker Pelosi rejected three of them was all Kevin McCarthy? It was likely either plotted by Trump and his advisors or at the very least approved by them. Throwing McCarthy under the bus (as if Trump himself had nothing to do with it) is just icing on the cake.  (schadenfreude cake).  The Trump bus has a big crowd of former allies underneath it now.

  139. 139.

    Bill Arnold

    @TriassicSands:

    You can continue to insist the Earth is flat as long as you don’t put yourself in a position where you can see the obvious curvature¹.

    I once spent close to 24 hours in a big tube high enough that the ground often could not be seen, and arrived in a place “they” claimed was called “Australia”.[1]
    At night, what looked like the constellation Orion was upside down. The little “sword” was above the belt.
    Also, I had never before seen the stars in much of the sky. (I know the name of every bright star visible from the northern hemisphere.)

    [1]“Someone on Quora recently posted a flat-earth craziness I was previously unaware of – which is that Australia doesn’t exist and all Australians are actors!! You really can’t make this stuff up!”

  141. 141.

    Steeplejack

    @Obvious Russian Troll:

    I think at the time all of the Republicans—and Trump, too, probably—were braying about no coöperation with the fake witch-hunt committee. Now they’re underbussing McCarthy, not that he doesn’t deserve it on general principles.

  142. 142.

    Ken

    I’m wondering, is this the first time we’ve seen a circular firing squad but with busses?

  143. 143.

    Dopey-o

    @Geminid: Yeah, I think Thomas’s end game is to abrogate Loving. He’s a very strict Catholic so divorce is out of the question. In desperation, Thomas has latched on to overturning of Loving as the only way he can rid himself of that horrible harpy!

    He’s not a strict Catholic, he’s an Old Testament Catholic. All the fire and brimstone, all the vengeance and punishment. All that hippy stuff like love your enemy, give your stuff to the poor?

    He’s a Cafeteria Catholic, he’s anti birth control, anti abortion, but the death penalty and heartless immigration policies are fine. Kids in cages? A-OK. Union busting? Also fine.

  145. 145.

    Jim Appleton

    @Bill Arnold:

    I once spent close to 24 hours in a big tube high enough that the ground often could not be seen,

    Whoa, you were that high?

    Props!

    I usually just forget I have legs …

  149. 149.

    catclub

    @Elizabelle: (Ravnsborg hit and killed a man walking along a highway, and then lied about it.)

     

    he was almost certainly speeding, and also likely distracted by reading his phone. so no jail time.

  151. 151.

    TriassicSands

    I agree with the responses to my original comment.

    It all reinforces the sad fact that tens of millions of Americans are lost — untethered from reality, devoid of the ability to see beyond their own bigotries, and capable of fashioning bizarre explanations for why the nonsense they believe is true and the reality they deny doesn’t exist. In the end, their defense is simply to refuse to look, watch, hear, read, or accept anything that is in disagreement with their fantasy world.

    I don’t see any way to put Humpty Dumpty back together again.

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