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You are here: Home / Balloon Juice / Today’s Hearing Open Thread: Here’s What, So What, Now What

Today’s Hearing Open Thread: Here’s What, So What, Now What

by Anne Laurie|  June 23, 202211:31 pm| 63 Comments

This post is in: Balloon Juice, Commentary, Jan 6: Hearings, Open Threads, Republican Crime Syndicate

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Et tu?…

"The president said, 'what do I have to lose?' And it was actually a good opening because I said, 'Mr. President, you have a great deal to lose'" — Donoghue on what he told Trump as he was considering firing Rosen and replacing him with Clark pic.twitter.com/vwOEYsnKyv

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 23, 2022



Giuliani during his deposition on why Jeffrey Clark was given election related responsibilities: "Somebody should be put in charge of the Justice Department who isn't frightened of what is going to be done to their reputation." pic.twitter.com/ftAtGd66zQ

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 23, 2022

Bill ‘Ever Lower’ Barr is not risking his own sweet — reputation — to prop up some loser:

Cheney plays a clip of Barr telling the committee he was worried there might not be "a transition at all" if the DOJ didn't immediately investigate Trump's fraud claims pic.twitter.com/TSdhk4K8fq

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 23, 2022

“You guys may not be following the internet the way I do” pic.twitter.com/HJpCQRL2RN

— Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) June 23, 2022

Even *before* today’s hearing —

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  1. 1.

    raven

    June 23, 2022 at 7:36 pm

    I thought the woman interviewed on tape said MTG didn’t ask for a pardon?

  2. 2.

    craigie

    June 23, 2022 at 7:38 pm

    MTG didn’t ask her, but did ask someone else.

  3. 3.

    JPL

    June 23, 2022 at 7:39 pm

    @raven: She heard she asked someone else.

  4. 4.

    Immanentize

    June 23, 2022 at 7:42 pm

    TRUMPET!

    That is the comment

  5. 5.

    Ken

    June 23, 2022 at 7:43 pm

    @craigie: There were several people who could be approached for pardons?  I wonder how that list of contacts was circulated.

    I’m also a bit curious if they were assigned; you know, last names A-D go to this person, E-J to this one….

  6. 6.

    dmsilev

    June 23, 2022 at 7:44 pm

    Matt Gaetz asking for a blanket pardon (*) covering all acts committed since either 15 billion years ago or 4004 BC, depending, seems to suggest he has a wee bit of a guilty conscience.

    (*) Given his apparent age preferences, perhaps “blankie pardon” is more appropriate…

  7. 7.

    Immanentize

    June 23, 2022 at 7:44 pm

    @raven:
    bomb bomb bomb,
    Bomb the Man!

  8. 8.

    Baud

    June 23, 2022 at 7:45 pm

    @Immanentize:

    Handsome boy.

  9. 9.

    trollhattan

    June 23, 2022 at 7:45 pm

    Some other good thing today: Ukraine flag installed in front of European Parliament in Brussels.

    https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1540043453144375296?cxt=HHwWgICxtY7Xqt8qAAAA

  10. 10.

    Scout211

    June 23, 2022 at 7:45 pm

    Discovery+ just dropped the trailer for the Trump reelection documentary, Unprecedented. It’s very short, but check out the quotes from the Trump family members. Discovery+ knows when to drop a trailer for best marketing.

    Discovery+ Trailer

  11. 11.

    dmsilev

    June 23, 2022 at 7:45 pm

    @Ken: Well, sure. Some people approached Jared. Other people approached Don Jr. Some really really stupid people approached Eric.

  12. 12.

    Elizabelle

    June 23, 2022 at 7:45 pm

    @Immanentize:   The champion bloodhound!!

  13. 13.

    NotMax

    June 23, 2022 at 7:45 pm

    ‘@carigie

    “I swear she said she was looking forward to being the beneficiary of a Trump hard-on.”

    //

  14. 14.

    Immanentize

    June 23, 2022 at 7:47 pm

    @Ken: It was friggin chaos, dude! Chaos!

    There were multi-avenue options to arrive at the pardon Sonic. “Cheddar bacon burger with onion rings, please”

  15. 15.

    Baud

    June 23, 2022 at 7:47 pm

    @Immanentize:

    When I first heard the news, I thought some MAGA named their show dog Trump.  I was relieved.

  16. 16.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 23, 2022 at 7:48 pm

    “You guys may not be following the internet the way I do”

    I remember hearing that in real time. Up there with “I watch the shows!” as an utterly sincere and un-self-conscious declaration of stupidity from trump

  17. 17.

    Immanentize

    June 23, 2022 at 7:49 pm

    @NotMax: you sure that wasn’t “Trump strap-on?” Like a “Boys” reference?

  18. 18.

    debbie

    June 23, 2022 at 7:49 pm

    I can’t find the clip, but this is the best line in Colbert’s monologue from last night:

    ‘What the F-ck Is This?’: Team Trump Blindsided by Jan. 6 Committee Getting Doc Footage

  19. 19.

    Immanentize

    June 23, 2022 at 7:50 pm

    @Baud:
    @Elizabelle:
    I love it when hounds win.

  20. 20.

    JPL

    June 23, 2022 at 7:51 pm

    @NotMax: At one of her rallies she had a trump pic and rubbed the crotch.

  21. 21.

    Steve in the ATL

    June 23, 2022 at 7:58 pm

    @Immanentize: “is your idiot brain getting fucked by stupid?”

  22. 22.

    Elizabelle

    June 23, 2022 at 8:05 pm

    Trumpet the beautiful bloodhound may be the only creature that comes along to redeem those first five letters.

  23. 23.

    prostratedragon

    June 23, 2022 at 8:06 pm

    It seems Kelli Ward and her husband have received grand jury subpoenas. She’s chair of the Arizona GQP, if you’re keeping score.

  24. 24.

    James E Powell

    June 23, 2022 at 8:08 pm

    CNN brings Jeffrey Toobin on and I don’t know why but I am not going to watch.

    There has to be some as good or better who could be explaining the law to CNN’s audience.

  25. 25.

    Baud

    June 23, 2022 at 8:08 pm

    @prostratedragon: 

  26. 26.

    Immanentize

    June 23, 2022 at 8:25 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: It depends, will I be punished?!

  27. 27.

    Ken

    June 23, 2022 at 8:26 pm

    @James E Powell: Perhaps CNN has some goal other than explaining the law?

  28. 28.

    CaseyL

    June 23, 2022 at 8:31 pm

    @James E Powell:   @Ken:

    I hope they don’t have him there via Zoom.  I’d be wondering what was going on below the camera.

  29. 29.

    sab

    June 23, 2022 at 8:35 pm

    @James E Powell: They have a lucite table and he mostly keeps his hands folded on top of the table.

  30. 30.

    Jackie

    June 23, 2022 at 8:35 pm

    And Boebert’s shoot ‘em up bar supposedly has been evicted. New owner of the building she leases from told her they’re not renewing her lease.

  31. 31.

    ColoradoGuy

    June 23, 2022 at 8:38 pm

    @Jackie: It would be perfect if the bar was replaced by a marijuana store. This is Colorado, after all.

  32. 32.

    craigie

    June 23, 2022 at 8:39 pm

    @Ken:

    You go to Pardons R Us, of course. Or it might be Pardons Depot, can’t remember.

  33. 33.

    CaseyL

    June 23, 2022 at 8:43 pm

    @prostratedragon: She’s also the one they have a film clip of presiding over a fake elector meeting, where they signed the fake certificates.

  34. 34.

    West of the Rockies

    June 23, 2022 at 8:43 pm

    @craigie:

    Jared’s Pardon Emporium!

  35. 35.

    Ken

    June 23, 2022 at 8:51 pm

    @ColoradoGuy: On a recent drive through heartland America, I noticed that about 50% of the radio ads were for cannabis stores.

    Another 25% were for a service that would find you a doctor to say that you needed medical marijuana, which sounded a bit suspicious to me.

  36. 36.

    Jackie

    June 23, 2022 at 8:52 pm

    @ColoradoGuy: I read  possibly a new restaurant, but… the new owner does have a marijuana dispensary leasing part of the property!

  37. 37.

    Doug R

    June 23, 2022 at 8:52 pm

    @James E Powell:

     

    CNN brings Jeffrey Toobin on and I don’t know why but I am not going to watch.

    Are they keeping him “handy”?

  38. 38.

    Ken

    June 23, 2022 at 8:52 pm

    @craigie: Pardons R Us went bankrupt. I think Pardons Depot is still around, but they merged with Pardons Max a few years ago.

  39. 39.

    VOR

    June 23, 2022 at 8:53 pm

    @Immanentize: Herogasm drops tomorrow.

  40. 40.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 23, 2022 at 9:00 pm

    This might fit here too:

    You know who doesn’t need a pardon?Hunter Biden * Follow me for more fun ways to trigger MAGAts— (@AshIsHereForIt) June 24, 2022

  41. 41.

    Gvg

    June 23, 2022 at 9:08 pm

    I hope someone is investigating j Clark. I think he sounds desperate. I would check for large debts or something like that.

  42. 42.

    Jim Appleton

    June 23, 2022 at 9:23 pm

    @craigie: aka The Orange Apron?

  43. 43.

    Tony G

    June 23, 2022 at 9:26 pm

    @dmsilev: “a blankie pardon” for Gaetz. You officially win comment-of-the-day with that one. A $10 gift card for Applebees will be mailed to you tomorrow.

  44. 44.

    David ☘The Establishment☘ Koch

    June 23, 2022 at 9:27 pm

    We may at a point where conspirators mysteriously slip off 10 story roof tops ala Teapot Dome​

  45. 45.

    dm

    June 23, 2022 at 9:28 pm

    @Gvg: Google “Jeffrey Clark subpoenaed” for your banquet of schadenfreude.

    Or if you prefer, “Jeffrey Clark house raided”.

  46. 46.

    citizen dave

    June 23, 2022 at 9:36 pm

    @David ☘The Establishment☘ Koch: I listened to a many cd audio version of the book The Teapot Dome Scandal just before covid.  It did take it some time to get going in congress; but a Republican senator spearheaded it.  Harding had the good sense to die before the aftermath went down, if I recall correctly.

  47. 47.

    craigie

    June 23, 2022 at 9:41 pm

    @Jim Appleton:

    Touché !

  48. 48.

    citizen dave

    June 23, 2022 at 9:43 pm

    For the record, I refreshed my memory and the Teapot investigation did start in Harding’s term, in 1922.  Harding died in 1923.  The scandal wasn’t really resolved until 1929 with scotus rulings.

    Wiki excerpt:

     

    The Supreme Court’s ruling in McGrain v. Daugherty (1927) for the first time explicitly established that Congress had the power to compel testimony.[23]

  49. 49.

    WaterGirl

    June 23, 2022 at 9:45 pm

    @Scout211: Wow.

  50. 50.

    SFAW

    June 23, 2022 at 9:49 pm

    @Jackie: ​
     

    And Boebert’s shoot ‘em up bar supposedly has been evicted. New owner of the building she leases from told her they’re not renewing her lease.

    ” Supreme Court ‘Justice’ Scam Alito issues an emergency Shadow Docket restraining order, citing the owner’s violation of the Second Amendment.”

  51. 51.

    SFAW

    June 23, 2022 at 9:52 pm

    @Tony G: ​
     

    A $10 gift card for Applebees will be mailed to you tomorrow.

    He’s worried he’ll run into Brooks at the salad bar.

  52. 52.

    catclub

    June 23, 2022 at 10:04 pm

    I see that 59% that think GOP are all crooks and suspect polling. Since a slightly different 59% looks like they will vote against democrats because gas prices are high.

  53. 53.

    The Lodger

    June 23, 2022 at 10:05 pm

    @Gvg: A T#$%p Admin environmental attorney? Yeah, there might be some easy money in that job.

  54. 54.

    SFAW

    June 23, 2022 at 10:05 pm

    As far as “Now What?”:

    Indict them all for Treason. ALL of them*. Make them PROVE that they haven’t given aid and comfort to the Enemy. Who, in this case, appears to be the person who tried to overthrow the duly-elected government of the US.

    ** “ALL” == every single elected Rethug, at whatever level, state or federal, who participated in the perpetuation of The Big Lie, or voted to allow any of the shenanigans of January 6 (before, during, and after), or made any public statements similar to “Some people say there was fraud … ,” or refuses to affirm that Joe Biden is the legitimately-elected President. [Note: the preceding list is merely a sampling, it is not intended to be complete.]

    NB1: I’m aware that some of the “lawyers” here are of the belief that the US must be involved in a declared war for there to be an Enemy. I say: make this a test case.
    NB2: I fully expect someone to respond to NB1 with something like “but what happens when the Rethugs take over and use that against us?” My hope is that the Rethugs will be so busy trying to stay out of jail that they won’t have time to take part in things like running for re-election, etc.

  55. 55.

    JoyceH

    June 23, 2022 at 10:19 pm

    Was anyone else surprised to hear about the existence of “electronics sniffing dogs”?  It makes sense, devices are so small now and all these guys seem to have about a dozen cell phones, but I didn’t know sniffer dogs were a thing for electronics.

  56. 56.

    Wapiti

    June 23, 2022 at 10:28 pm

    @SFAW: Yeah, my belief is that Trump might be as much an enemy as the Confederacy was.

  57. 57.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 23, 2022 at 10:38 pm

    @SFAW: ​
     

    Make them PROVE that they haven’t given aid and comfort to the Enemy.

    That’s not how it works.

  58. 58.

    SFAW

    June 23, 2022 at 10:38 pm

    @Wapiti:

    Yeah, my belief is that Trump might be as much an enemy as the Confederacy was.

    If you’re looking for an argument, you won’t get one from me.

  59. 59.

    SFAW

    June 23, 2022 at 10:44 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    That’s not how it works.

    My original comment re: “make them PROVE it” was more of a ref to (fuck*) LBJ than to actual legal tenets.
    Of course, given the current ISCOTUS, it would surprise me only a little if there were a 6-3 ruling enshrining “guilty until proven innocent” into constitutional law, the US Code, etc. Alito and Thomas will cite Cardassian history extensively as the basis for the ruling,

    I’m only half-joking (in the preceding paragraph).​

    * In honor of raven, of course.

  60. 60.

    SWMBO

    June 24, 2022 at 5:10 am

    @craigie: ​
     
    Trump Pardons or GTFO. It has to have his name on it.

  61. 61.

    SFAW

    June 24, 2022 at 6:51 am

    @SWMBO: ​
     

    Trump Pardons or GTFO. It has to have his name on it.

    One hopes they would have as much real/actual worth as a Trump University “degree” or Trump Steaks “food.”

  62. 62.

    S Cerevisiae

    June 24, 2022 at 10:44 am

    @Wapiti: I think he was the second president of the confederacy not the 45th president of the USA.

  63. 63.

    Paul in KY

    June 24, 2022 at 11:25 am

    @dmsilev: You wonder what he might have done as a kid. Any unsolved murders from that timeframe in his neighborhood?

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