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Sunday Evening Open Thread: Take Pride

by Anne Laurie|  June 26, 202210:53 pm| 34 Comments

This post is in: Civil Rights, Gay Rights Are human Rights, Open Threads

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HAPPENING NOW: Crush of people at Seattle Pride parade that’s now passing through the downtown core. Some of loudest cheers so far have been for Magnolia Boy Scouts and abortion rights marchers. Thousands of people out and enjoying day. #Pride #SeattlePride #LGBTQ #RoeVsWade pic.twitter.com/yTjNAH96wQ

— Jonathan Choe Journalist (@choeshow) June 26, 2022

‘Boy Scouts’ was trending on Twitter, so I clicked. Of course there’s a predictable clamor from the revanchists, but these tweets were all near the top.

Never forget: It really hasn’t been that long (mid-1980s, in my personal experience) since many decent, honest ‘average’ Americans could believe they’d never even met a gay person, much less someone in their immediate circle of friends & relatives…

It was so much fun to celebrate and support the LGBTQ+ community at the Houston pride parade yesterday with @MomsDemand. Sadly, LGBTQ+ face higher risk of becoming victims of gun violence.

Join us next time! Text ACT to 644-33 and help keep our communities safe. pic.twitter.com/FBXG9LYdg7

— Karie (@karie_houtx) June 26, 2022

San Antonio’s Pride parade was a joyous celebration of our city’s LGBTQ+ community and a testament to the progress our country has made.

The work to protect LGBTQ+ rights continues — and we will not allow extremists to turn back the clock on freedom. #PrideMonth pic.twitter.com/fsvxqhqPQW

— Joaquin Castro (@JoaquinCastrotx) June 26, 2022

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  1. 1.

    Alison Rose

    June 26, 2022 at 7:01 pm

    I love seeing these, even though it makes me a little sad that I can’t be at Pride in SF today. Disability sucks. But the photos and videos of such joy and love are really a delight.

  2. 2.

    Van Buren

    June 26, 2022 at 7:05 pm

    Dog notes:

    1. Today is the one year anniversary of Rosie adopting the Van Buren household. She continues to sneak Red Bull at all hours of the day and night.

    2. Mrs. Van Buren apologized to Rosie for making her move so that she could get access to a closet and called her by the pet name she’s been using for me for the last 30 years and I don’t know whether to feel honored or insulted.

  3. 3.

    Dan B

    June 26, 2022 at 7:10 pm

    Thanks for posting these.  It was cool to see the Seattle Parade.  I was in the first Seattle March- all of 35 or so of us.  I was in the first Chicago March in 1970, 150 or so of us afraid we’d be attacked.  Now there are 500,000 at Seattle and 1,000,000+ in Chicago.  The Extreme Six are going to have a tough time between LGBTQIA, women, and the people who love and support them.

  4. 4.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 26, 2022 at 7:18 pm

    @Van Buren:

    Dog notes: 

    1. Today is the one year anniversary of Rosie adopting the Van Buren household. She continues to sneak Red Bull at all hours of the day and night.

    How does she open the cans?

    And how do you know?  Does she sprout wings and fly around the house?

  5. 5.

    Baud

    June 26, 2022 at 7:21 pm

    ️‍

  6. 6.

    Starfish

    June 26, 2022 at 7:30 pm

    @Alison Rose : Did you ever get to go?

    We were at the Denver March, and I was told there were about 13,000. This was a more subdued event than usual because this is the first time it has been back since the pandemic. A number of people who were supposed to be with my group dropped out due to COVID or suspected COVID cases.

  7. 7.

    JPL

    June 26, 2022 at 7:32 pm

    OT   Video of the assault on Rudy.     link

  8. 8.

    hotshoe

    June 26, 2022 at 7:35 pm

    From his twitter, it’s clear that Jonathan Choe is not a good person. He’s on staff of the goddamned Discovery Institute!

    Choe might be sympathetic with some gay people — who knows, maybe he’s simply a hack who takes photos he thinks will sell — but he is definitely on the side of the “label-them-groomers” cohort. God forbid there are naked people bicycling in the Pride parade! God forbid any family with children should choose to attend and see that naked people exist!

    And fuck Choe forever for tweeting about some street preacher who attempted to interfere with the Roe protest and had his bible ruined. Quote Choe: “Full blown assault on Christianity, personal faith, and freedom of speech” . What the hell, what kind of dirtbag cares more about a book than about women’s lives? What about the actual full blown assault by christian dominionists on my life, and my freedom ? Why isn’t Choe furious that men (like that preacher) are causing the deaths of women in our country?

    Good to hear that the Boy Scouts are marching at Pride, though.

    Maybe there’s a ray of hope.

  9. 9.

    Baud

    June 26, 2022 at 7:35 pm

    @JPL:

    Reminds me of the Great Maxine Waters assault on Tracey.

  10. 10.

    moops

    June 26, 2022 at 7:36 pm

    Pride was getting to be a bit of a victory lap in recent years.   Not anymore.   Danger levels are high and rising.   I think we need Woman marches, on the Capitol, and in every major city.

  11. 11.

    JPL

    June 26, 2022 at 7:38 pm

    @Baud: only gentler

  12. 12.

    caphilldcne

    June 26, 2022 at 7:52 pm

    @Dan B: wow!!  Thanks for helping originate Pride in Seattle!  I’m a former Eagle Scout and couldn’t be prouder of the boys. I didn’t come out until I was in my 30s so I love the acceptance and change.

  13. 13.

    Alison Rose

    June 26, 2022 at 7:54 pm

    @Starfish: Yes, I lived in San Francisco for a few years (late 20-aughts) and of course was there every year, plus I went most years before that starting in the late 90s. It was always a fantastic time.

  14. 14.

    caphilldcne

    June 26, 2022 at 7:54 pm

    @moops: couldn’t agree more.

  15. 15.

    debbie

    June 26, 2022 at 8:01 pm

    @JPL:

    Check out the response to Michael Tracey’s persistent pursuit of Anne Coulter.

    https://twitter.com/haramcart/status/1437608552395378690?s=21&t=c4nNAFc7hm8lZNCfnW31CA

  16. 16.

    JPL

    June 26, 2022 at 8:07 pm

    @debbie: Well that’s embarrassing.

    I so want Rudy to press charges so jury can see what happened.

  17. 17.

    Urban Suburbanite

    June 26, 2022 at 8:07 pm

    @hotshoe:

    Choe is a discount version of Andy Ngo. Dude got fired by Sinclair for his glowing coverage of a Proud Boys rally (for members facing charges related to last year’s coup attempt), then scurried off to get on the fascist grift circuit. Fuck that smarmy greaseball and his stupid fucking disguises. He’s been going to be a national fixture soon, just like that scumbag Rufo.

    As for the “street preacher”, that’s a lot of bullshit. The dude’s a fixture at events when he’s not screaming at women for their slutty clothes, and he’s as aggressive as he is obnoxious. The ninjas were not in the mood to chase him around this time.

    There’s a couple of these fundamentalist douchebags who show up, and they’ve been getting more aggressive. A couple of them have been showing up armed. Not that Choe or the other local grifters will mention any of that.

  18. 18.

    Ruckus

    June 26, 2022 at 8:20 pm

    Maybe it’s my history but in the mid 80s my sister had been out and proud for about 10 yrs. Her first partner and her are both gone now, but they were in their mid 60s when they passed. She and her first partner were together for 9 yrs and her partner was with her second for over 30 yrs and I’ve seen that gay life is no different than any other caring life. My life is better for having known both of them and many of their friends. I’ve been to gatherings of 15-20 people where I’m the only straight person and it always felt completely normal. I’ve done eulogies for a number of people over the decades and the best turnouts were gay folks. I think because they knew what they had to lose and when they did they didn’t want it to go unnoticed.

    @hotshoe:

    Much of the human race seems to take offense when someone else’s life isn’t the same as they envision. That it somehow takes away from their life.

    We are not self sufficient, no animals are, but there is far more than enough variation in lives, in style, in living that we really shouldn’t have to met every other human’s expectations for our life to be accepted. Our life doesn’t demean any other lives unless we try to make it do so. And fearing differences, color, sexual orientation, sex, age is bullshit of the highest order. The world doesn’t have to be one way to justify anyone’s life. There is plenty of life to go around.

    I’m not preaching, just explaining my view.

  19. 19.

    JPL

    June 26, 2022 at 8:21 pm

    OMG Rudy’s response   lin

    Bring it to trial and let Rudy explain what good shape he is because the guy pushed him to the floor.    There is not a place in NY no matter how conservative, that would not laugh him out of the court.

  20. 20.

    Linnaeus

    June 26, 2022 at 8:30 pm

    @Urban Suburbanite: Choe’s also been a big promoter of the “Seattle Is Dying” narrative. Good riddance when KOMO fired him.

  21. 21.

    AliceBlue

    June 26, 2022 at 8:32 pm

    A Pride Parade in my home town of Rome, Georgia?  That’s Marjorie Taylor Greene territory, so I’m really surprised and happy!

  22. 22.

    JPL

    June 26, 2022 at 8:33 pm

    @AliceBlue: Nice.   That surprises me but the state is shifting as more people move in

    The gerrymandering in the 6th won’t hold beyond two or four years.

  23. 23.

    J R in WV

    June 26, 2022 at 8:39 pm

    @JPL:

    Wow, such an assault! I bet Rudy would have twitched more if he had actually been assaulted… what a farce. Directed verdict of not guilty!

    ETA: So glad there’s video, it makes it very obvious it was NOT an actual assault.

  24. 24.

    Sister Golden Bear

    June 26, 2022 at 8:43 pm

    Had a good day at SF Pride taking part with the Free Mom (and Dad) Hugs group. It’s really pretty simple, they go out to Pride events and offer mom (and dad) hugs to anyone who wants them. Because a lot of LGBTQ folks don’t have parents who will.

    It’s always interesting to see the range of reactions. Some people literally come running with outstretched arms. Some of the hugs are pro forma, most are sincere but not too long. A number of people tear up. And there’s always a few who really break down crying. Usually it’s folks who’ve been disowned by their parents and family. I held a newly out young gay man, who was one of them, several minutes for as long as he needed. We were the first adults to show him unconditional acceptance. Broke my heart.

  25. 25.

    J R in WV

    June 26, 2022 at 8:46 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    I can see how hard that could be. Thanks for all you do for those young folks just coming out!!

  26. 26.

    kalakal

    June 26, 2022 at 8:46 pm

    @debbie: Ah, the distinctive call of the Butter Goblin. What a pathetic specimen

  27. 27.

    Sister Golden Bear

    June 26, 2022 at 9:05 pm

    @J R in WV: Sadly it’s still all too common. I know people who were disowned and shunned by their entire extended family.

    About half of kids living on the streets are LGBTQ+ kids who were either kicked out by their parents, or their parents were so abusive because of who they are that they that ran away for their own safety.

  28. 28.

    hotshoe

    June 26, 2022 at 9:07 pm

    @Urban Suburbanite: sorry to hear that.

    Right-wing nuts showing up armed is not good for others’ right to life.

  29. 29.

    Geminid

    June 26, 2022 at 9:14 pm

    @debbie: I’m starting to sense that Michael Tracey has a mental or emotional disability, so I feel somewhat more sympathetic towards him now.

    I still wish Maxine Waters had whipped out a machete and cut that motherfu*ker’s hand off, though, instead of just pushing it aside.

    They could’ve reattached it.

  30. 30.

    hotshoe

    June 26, 2022 at 9:24 pm

    @Ruckus: Yeah, I just don’t get how people can work themselves into a lather about harmless differences.

    OMG my neighbor wants to paint their front door red, OMG my neighbor wants to put a clothesline in the side yard, OMG my neighbor practices belly dance in their garage, OMG my neighbor is getting gay-married.

    How is that harmful?

    It’s just people trying to live their lives.

    Since it is definitely not harmful to anyone, accept it and enjoy the fact that life is less boring when we’re all a bit different.

    Funny, for me, differences in color, sexual orientation, sex are a lot less likely to affect me personally than differences in musical styles.

    Just don’t play it too loud too late at night ;)

  31. 31.

    Urban Suburbanite

    June 26, 2022 at 9:29 pm

    @Linnaeus: 

    Trust me, I’m real familiar with Sinclair’s misery porn. Local media is heavily invested in getting older people in the suburbs terrified of Seattle.

    Choe’s thing is going haaaaaarrrdd on the self promotion. He was downtown when the riots really kicked off, and made sure the camera guy recorded him trying to berate people. He’s desperate to get clout and to copy Andy Ngo’s act (why anyone would look up to that Nazi bootlicker is beyond me). He also likes to record himself lecturing people and has been chased off more than once. (I also managed to get him throwing a weird tantrum a while back and I’m still incredibly pleased with myself for that)

    Fuck this guy with an impact wrench.

  32. 32.

    Urban Suburbanite

    June 26, 2022 at 10:23 pm

    @hotshoe:

    Yeah, it’s not great. There was a definite escalation before Sniffles and his spawn squatted in the White House, but it’s really kicked up the last two years. You see a lot more people kitted out at events, and some of it’s definitely LARP-ing (you got to look your best, whether it’s being punk as fuck or tac’d out) but the threat is real.

    Fortunately no one is coming around with guns (at least openly), but you do see more leftist folk carrying steel batons or mace. Usually it’s a lot of shit talking and blocking those idiots from people, but I’ve seen a couple people get blasted.

  33. 33.

    Anyway

    June 26, 2022 at 11:10 pm

    I was at the NYC parade! So much energy, so much determination. So much joy. There were a lot of pro-choice/abortion rights marchers.

    (I went up to meet friends who were visiting the area and couldn’t come down to Philly. Seeing the parade was a happy coincidence.)

  34. 34.

    Gretchen

    June 26, 2022 at 11:15 pm

    I told a friend in the 70’s that I didn’t know any gay people.  He said no, you don’t know any people that you know are gay.

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