Sound ON:
‘Merica pic.twitter.com/csPvYZlYIA
— TG (@TG22110) June 27, 2022
… Even if you *don’t* plan on using it for anything else…
#July4th pic.twitter.com/qQBKOs8DCa
— US Consumer Product Safety Commission (@USCPSC) June 30, 2022
President Joe Biden will award the United States' highest civilian honor, the Presidential Medal of Freedom, to gymnast Simone Biles, actor Denzel Washington, the late Sen. John McCain and 14 others at the White House next week. https://t.co/jZ2dH8MBfm
— AP Politics (@AP_Politics) July 1, 2022
Also Sandra Lindsay, “the New York City nurse who rolled up her sleeve on live television in December 2020 to receive the first COVID-19 vaccine dose that was pumped into an arm in the United States”; Khizr Khan; and Richard Trumka. Full list in the article.
Readership capture:
… “My girlfriend is right there,” said Bachman, 78, a former member of The Guess Who and Bachman-Turner Overdrive, as the Gretsch guitar on which he wrote “American Woman” and other hits was handed to him by a Japanese musician who had bought it at a Tokyo store in 2014 without knowing its history.
He said all guitars are special, but the orange 1957 Gretsch 6120 Chet Atkins he bought as a teenager was exceptional. He worked at multiple jobs to save money to buy the $400 guitar, his first purchase of an expensive instrument, he said.
“It made my whole life. It was my hammer and a tool to write songs, make music and make money,” Bachman told The Associated Press before the handover at the Canadian Embassy in Tokyo.
When it was stolen from the Toronto hotel in 1977, “I cried for three days. It was part of me,” he said. “It was very, very upsetting.” He ended up buying about 300 guitars in unsuccessful attempts to replace it, he said…
TAKESHI said he decided to return the guitar because as a guitar player he could imagine how much Bachman missed it.
“I owned it and played it for only eight years and I’m extremely sad to return it now. But he has been feeling sad for 46 years, and it’s time for someone else to be sad,” TAKESHI said. “I felt sorry for this legend.”
He said he felt good after returning the guitar to its rightful owner, but it may take time for him to love his new Gretsch as much as that one…
Bachman said he and TAKESHI are now like brothers who own guitars that are “twin sisters.” They are participating in a documentary about the guitar on which they plan to perform a song, “Lost and Found,” together.
They also performed several songs at Friday’s handover, including “American Woman.”
Bachman said he will lock the guitar up in his home so he will never lose it again. “I am never ever going to take it out of my house again,” he said.
Baud
I think the fireworks video should be sent to the people in the truck video.
Andrew Abshier
I think the monster truck passengers, between them, could light up a small appliance bulb. Maybe.
Dorothy A. Winsor
Fireworks make it a bad holiday for dogs
OzarkHillbilly
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Fortunately for ours, not around here. Always very quiet.
Argiope
The soundtrack for the aquatic truck adventure is just perfection. Recorder can be surprisingly expressive of unfolding doom.
Anne Laurie
You know which movie’s theme song that is, right?
Betty Cracker
Love the story about Bachman’s guitar!
The Thin Black Duke
The ‘Merica video on is the embodiment of the Trump administration, only shorter.
OzarkHillbilly
@Betty Cracker: There is nothing lower than a person who would steal a musicians instrument. Well, maybe somebody who would steal a carpenter’s tools.
Baud
@Anne Laurie:
Haha. I had watched it on mute. That’s perfect.
Argiope
@Anne Laurie: Chef’s kiss! Thanks for finding it. I laugh harder each time I watch the tragedy unfold.
raven
@Dorothy A. Winsor: It’s so weird that Artie was shot and otherwise tortured and totally cowers with sharp noises but fireworks don’t bother her!
NotMax
Summertime easy listening.
Betty Cracker
My father was very lax with fireworks — he would buy them and allow my sister and me to shoot off bottle-rockets and explode M-80s unsupervised when we were kids. Of course, we shot the bottle-rockets and threw the M-80s at each other. It’s a wonder we still have all our fingers, toes and eyes.
NeenerNeener
I’m doodle-sitting for the next week, and I have no idea how these two are going to react to fireworks. The puppy may be cool with it, but I’m not sure about the (slightly) older one.
The theme to Titanic was perfect for that monster truck video.
germy shoemangler
NotMax
Way too much work cake. Some people simply have too much time on their hands.
TL:DW* note — perfectly understandable is the urge to periodically skip ahead and get the gist of it in dribs and drabs.
*(W is for watch.)
;)
geg6
That story about Randy Bachman and the stolen guitar is lovely. I remember reading about the theft many, many years ago in Rolling Stone (so long ago that I was a subscriber, so possibly around the time it happened).
germy shoemangler
@Betty Cracker:
The smell of “sparklers” is one of my embedded sensory childhood memories. And the sting from a stray spark.
tom
@NotMax: that’s lovely, thanks. I love pretty much everything Sam Cooke recorded.
Ken
Did anyone else know exactly what was going to happen in the truck video before hitting play? About the only thing I didn’t get right was the way it capsized backward.
David ☘The Establishment☘ Koch
That’s quite a list, especially Rapinoe and Trumka
And for once, it’s actually Great News for McCain!
raven
@Ken: I knew a bunch of drunk morons were going to end up in the drink.
NeenerNeener
@NotMax: If they do another season of Is it Cake? on Netflix she should be a contestant.
And yes, I watched the whole first season of Is It Cake? and would watch a second one if they make one. I just couldn’t look away…
O. Felix Culpa
@raven:
Same. It sounds like Artie is thriving in your household; well done!
Amir Khalid
I’d be gutted too if one of my guitars were stolen. Fortunately, none of my musical gear is valuable enough to steal.
OzarkHillbilly
That never stopped a thief before.
opiejeanne
@NeenerNeener: It was a fun, silly show, and I really enjoyed it, but I especially liked that no one got sent home, there was no whining for the cameras, and they all sat and watched their competitors in each round.
Immanentize
So, about the guitar story: did TAKESHI (love the caps!) know it was Bachman’s guitar when he bought it? I rather think he might have if for eight years he knew another person was sad? Or am I just ruining a perfectly sweet tale? But it seems Bachman got him a new Gretsch.
Starfish
@Amir Khalid: Musicians seem to get their gear stolen out of their vehicles after their shows. It is sad.
Immanentize
@germy shoemangler: Did you see the sweet little sadbots on the bank robber’s feet?
Amir Khalid
@Starfish:
As a bedroom player who doesn’t gig, I should be safe from any post-gig theft.
OzarkHillbilly
@Starfish: Or beaten to a bloody pulp when walking to their car (as one I know was).
@Immanentize: Not according to my reading of the article.
rikyrah
@David ☘The Establishment☘ Koch:
Diane Nash has been about ‘that life’ since she was a college student at Fisk University in the 1960’s and filled out a will before she started protesting for Civil Rights
rikyrah
Good Morning Everyone
Starfish
@OzarkHillbilly: How can we convince Amir Khalid to do a live show if you tell him that?
Starfish
@NotMax: I watched her make the celery molds and the carrots, and I am going to have to agree with you about some people having too much time on their hands.
zhena gogolia
@OzarkHillbilly: You are lucky! I hate the fucking fourth of July.
Baud
@rikyrah:
Good morning.
OzarkHillbilly
@zhena gogolia: Luck had nothing to do with it :-) but yeah, the 4th sucks.
Immanentize
@Starfish: One word: youtube
Dorothy A. Winsor
If Trump goes down, I wish he’d take DeSantis on his way
Jager
Our houseguest this weekend, a friend for over 50 years, is originally from Winnipeg and has known Randy since they were kids. George was in a band in his late teens, his lead guitar player broke his hand and 14-year-old Randy played a summer of gigs with “The Jury”. Randy remembered George’s 1957 Stratocaster, called him about 15 years and asked if he still had the guitar. He bought it from George, Randy invited him to a gig at the Hard Rock. When the band played ‘You Aint Seen Nothing Yet”, Randy used the Strat. BTW, the stuttering in the song is Randy poking fun at his younger brother.
Betty Cracker
Slate has an article about the alleged deal between Biden and McConnell in Kentucky, which is reportedly still on. I am reserving judgment until something is confirmed, but if true, this stinks:
WereBear
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I’ve been hoping for a Scopes Trial moment. I think we got one.
It hit the press hard, I think. Never hard enough, of course.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@WereBear: DeSantis would be the executive equivalent of the current Supreme Court. Trump wasn’t really interesting in governing except as it profited him. DeSantis likes exercising his power. Like the court, he has no limits
jnfr
@Ken:
Yeah, I just figured it would sink or get stuck, but it was so much better than that.
Baud
@Betty Cracker:
Agree. That’s a bit of a head scratcher, if accurate. Obviously, there may be consideratioms were not privy to, but nonetheless, I don’t think the Senate Dems should agree to it.
prostratedragon
Summer Sonnet
Uncle Cosmo
I spent a bit of yesterday’s shopping talking with people & ending each conversation with
Baud
@Uncle Cosmo:
“Until I met a man with no fingers…”
Betty Cracker
@Dorothy A. Winsor: According to the NYT, Trump is eager to announce a 2024 run soon so the media will swarm that and push the growing evidence of his seditious conspiracy off the front pages.
The all-access crew had this to say about DeSantis:
If it’s true that Trump will jump in before the midterms, that seems like good news for Democrats to me. Also, I’d love to see Trump smack DeSantis down before it’s too late, but it may already be too late. The Murdochs have moved on to DeSantis, and Limbaugh Jr. (Joe Rogan) and Koch Bros political heir Elon Musk are on board.
opiejeanne
@Betty Cracker: I think TFG’s going to announce on Monday, to get all the attention focused on that. I also think he thinks if he’s running for office he’ll have some sort of executive privilege, as if candidates are protected from investigation and lawsuits.
Gvg
@Immanentize: it said he didn’t know it’s history when he bought it.
He has to have dug into its history, maybe because it was so old.
Immanentize
@Gvg: My hope is he never found out until the internet sleuth found out he had it.
But a famous and notorious stolen guitar (Bachman did talk about it a lot!) in Japan sounds like it was once understood to be a particularly collectible guitar, no?
Barbara
@NotMax: One of those songs with such good “bones” it wears just about any musical style well. I was in a collectibles store a few weeks ago and it was playing 60s music, and the up tempo horn heavy version of this song came on, circa 1970, and I couldn’t for the life of me remember the artist. Anyone?
sdhays
@opiejeanne: Well, in his first campaign, the FBI was reluctant to investigate his illegal collaboration with a foreign power because it might be “political”, so it’s not a crazy theory.
Betty Cracker
@opiejeanne: That would not surprise me. As nauseating as it would be to see Tangerine Baal back on the campaign trail and associated coverage, it’s a positive thing for Democrats, IMO.
VeniceRiley
I’ve had my first nature stroll on the Sudbury Water Meadows with my wife and our sweet old dog. So happy to not have to worry about fireworks setting him off this weekend!
As sweet as the guitar story is, I’m not sure it merits documentary length treatment.
Mike in NC
Giving the Presidential Medal of Freedom to a scumbag like Steve Jobs is only slightly better than giving one to Steve Bannon or Rush Limbaugh (which the Fat Orange Clown actually did in the latter case).
Gin & Tonic
@Uncle Cosmo: Back in the stupid old days, my friend Raoul and I would make our own explosive devices using supplies you could order by mail from those tiny little ads in the back of Popular Science. How we didn’t blow ourselves up is an enduring mystery. But I still have 10 fingers, 10 toes and two eyes.
Eunicecycle
@Uncle Cosmo: I had a friend in college whose nickname was Pinky because he blew off a pinky finger with fireworks.
JWR
@Betty Cracker: In junior high school, our little clique had a friend who was somehow connected, by way of the ROTC to a local armory, and he brought us a bunch of bullet blanks, I forget the caliber, but they were big, maybe 2-1/2 inches long, and we would use big, clear marbles attached to the rear end of the bullets by way of cellophane and rubber bands, and we would either throw them up as high as we could, or drop them out of third story windows, and when they worked, they would explode, making a cracking big noise. But this was freakin’ school, with lots of kids running around, and eventually, a guy went to the nurse with shrapnel wounds in his leg. But boy, what “fun” we had!
OzarkHillbilly
@Gin & Tonic: My folks wouldn’t buy fireworks so every July 5th we would head out to the streets to see what unexploded fws we could find. I almost lost a good chunk of my left hand and/or fingers lighting a short fused cracker.
brendancalling
@The Thin Black Duke: the truck video is the embodiment of 21st century America, with or without Trump. It’s been a shitshow since day one of this fucking century.
brendancalling
@OzarkHillbilly: what about a SCOTUS judge who steals women’s rights?
Baud
@sdhays:
Especially since his name isn’t Hillary Clinton. If it were, all bets (and ethics) would be off.
JML
I loved fireworks as a kid. went every year to the city’s big show growing up (including the year they had an accident and half the display blew up on the ground, causing chaos and mayhem). Used to cross the border for legal stuff (sparklers and fountains and so on) and also inquired about the stuff that was (at the time) illegal: firecrackers, roman candles, and bottle rockets. Begged the parents to stop off at the big firework stores when traveling so we could bring home the loot and make my friends jealous/happy (I shared). We used to light bottle rockets and throw them, trying to time the throw so they’d ignite at the top of the throw and fly even farther. We’d make launchers out of wrapping paper tubes and fire them at everything.
Now every year around this time I see a deluge of posts on FB from people calling anyone who lights a firework to be an evil cruel bastard, how they should all be banned, etc. Sigh.
PaulB
Four dogs on one side of me, two dogs on the other, and all of them bark all the time. And in this semi-rural community, the fireworks start at about noon and will continue every few minutes for the next 15 hours. Pray for me.
OzarkHillbilly
@brendancalling: All’s fair in love and war.
Omnes Omnibus
@Betty Cracker: Stern has a tendency to overreact and over-hype. I would never make a judgment based on his reporting.
Betty Cracker
@JWR: I’m glad there weren’t more serious injuries!
Gotta admit I still love explosions, even as a grownup, though I don’t shoot off fireworks anymore out of consideration for dogs. It’s probably my redneck upbringing.
rikyrah
@Betty Cracker:
No. The growing evidence will mean ready made questions to repeat every segment they have on him
Steeplejack
@Barbara:
Billy Stewart, 1966.
rikyrah
@Betty Cracker:
If the Democrats keep the Senate, then this is moot.
But, if the GOP takes the Senate, how do we get another judge through after 2022.
Scout211
Some good news here in California. Newsom just signed a new environmental law phasing out single use plastics.
Baud
@rikyrah:
We won’t get any judges through if we lose the Senate.
The original reporting had this as a deal for judges. Now, the reporting doesn’t mention other judges. Who knows? But the current reporting portrays a much worse deal.
Another Scott
@Barbara: The Mungo Jerry version?
https://youtu.be/iokgq4I0OM8
Cheers,
Scott.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Betty Cracker:
Or as Dan Pfeiffer put it:
rikyrah
@Baud:
The timing of this story
Like I said… If we keep the Senate… This won’t matter.
Betty Cracker
@Baud: Agreed. It would be an arguably defensible deal if it involved judges Dems want to seat. I’m reserving judgment until we know more, but as outlined in Slate, it sounds bad.
JWR
@Betty Cracker: “I’m glad there weren’t more serious injuries!”
Oh, me too! We coulda put out a few eyes with those “bullet bombs”.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Yeah, that’s curious…. an outrage-generator about a district court judge in KY on the day Ketanji Brown-Jackson is sworn in… helluva coincidence. I don’t like the deal, but it does feel like something’s missing.
Another Scott
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I hear from Cilizza that there are rumors that Jimmy Carter is considering running again. Ron Reagan Jr is mulling his options. Anita Bryant Jr is considering a national tour. Etc.
Current life and politics is too boring to cover and doesn’t generate enough clicks. Anything for the MSM to change the subject, I guess.
Cheers,
Scott.
zhena gogolia
I think I’ll take a break until we stop talking about the KY judge. There are bigger fish to fry.
mrmoshpotato
@Betty Cracker:
I’ll say! About 30 years ago, my dad and a neighbor’s kid put an M-80 under a metal trash can lid in an empty parking lot (their outside trash cans at the time were 55-gallon oil barrels).
The lid flew 3 stories high.
Baud
@zhena gogolia:
I’d like to get back to talking about KY Jelly.
FlyingToaster
Growing up in the city (KCMO), it was not only illegal but insanely dangerous to set off fireworks. I knew one kid in 3rd grade who blew off two fingers throwing firecrackers at cars on Wornall. An idiot dad set off an M80 in his driveway and set the house siding on fire. Morons.
In contrast, my dad would haul us up to Riverside (where they sold fireworks), down to the banks of the Missouri, and we’d light sparklers and fire bottle rockets over the river. So we’d not blow our fingers off, and while the Big Muddy is polluted, it’s unlikely to set itself on fire.
When I was in high school, we’d get strings of poppers, light the end of the strings, and drop them down the storm sewers. We probably killed a thousand rats that way. And the neighborhood sounded like it was being invaded.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Biden has nominated 105 judges, 69 confirmed, including a record number of Black women named to the bench. On the day of KBJ’s swearing in, this turd drops in the punchbowl? curiouser…
@Another Scott: trump running against the Constitution is more than just click-bait. The story about the Princeton (or wherever) grad who married her (former) professor who’s decades older and was fired for sexual harassment, etc, pure bored upper-middle-class white people Real-Housewives Of The Ivy League clickbait. trump is a real and present danger to the republic.
zhena gogolia
@Baud: hahah you are about 12 years old, aren’t you?
Layer8Problem
@Baud: Is that any good with peanut butter? Asking for a friend.
mrmoshpotato
@Baud: Sounds like the late night post was… interesting.
mrmoshpotato
@Layer8Problem: Gross!
Immanentize
@OzarkHillbilly: thsat brings back a few memories. Same with my family! But letting off strings of firecrackers like my near neighbor did, ALWAYS left a few dozen crackers behind. Also, sometimes, an uncle would go against my parents wishes and bring some to us from the South.
As for bottle rockets, oh the wars we had (like B. Cracker)! Many of my friends were in fireworks-positive families so there would be a big store of bottle rockets (considered absolutely safe for children, like Jarts). But we were clever tykes of the 70s and one of us realized that the plastic tubes his dad (and many of our dads) had in their golf bags made perfect bazookas. So, two boy teams would set off into the woods shooting dozens of rockets at each other. We all wore a crazy assortment of eye protection: shop glasses, ski goggles, old discarded sun glasses (at night!), and would add taped on cardboard in “sensitive” spots (like one’s neck ). Oh! to have had pocket phone cameras then.
Only once did one really pop anywhere near anyone (a boy named Keith) which pretty much dampened our enthusiasms and the wars subsided. Then again, we also ran out of bottle rockets.
Baud
@mrmoshpotato:
You may want to stay clear of the Rudy post.
JWR
@mrmoshpotato:
Our choice of locations to set off M-80s were large, nearly empty trash bins, the kind you’d see behind restaurants.
Immanentize
@Baud: my view on this deal thing is that Biden is not a horrible negotiator and he (and his team in concert with Senate Dems) has been tremendous at getting judges through. But a District Court Judge is not the plum people may think it is. I expect for McConnell to get one Kentucky Judge, Biden will get movement on a bunch of other Fed. Judges. The timing will tell. There are more than two dozen federal judges in the process right now. For a new appointment, it would take the rest of the summer, likely into September for vetting. How many judges can Biden get through before one Kentucky District Court Judge? That is the key to watch.
(Also, for those twitterati with longer memories than “since breakfast” since this woof began, I assumed that Biden’s praise of McConnell a couple weeks back was part of this effort. Also is a very nice set up for Biden (who is against filibuster reform, doncha know!) Setting up his recent statement that the filibuster should be taken down for Roe legislation. I assume he has, at least, Sinema on board for that. And Manchin probably either doesn’t care that much or agrees with Biden. I hope.)
Immanentize
@Another Scott: Ha!
I used to love that song, still do as music, but man, how very, uhm, wrong? the sentiments in the lyrics.
Mike E
@OzarkHillbilly: we pyromaniacal kids used to break “dud” crackers in half and light them on the inside for a zoomy sprinkler effect… this is probably why my hearing is as impaired as it is
Soprano2
@Betty Cracker: We were allowed to have firecrackers and things like sparklers, but using bottle rockets had to be supervised by a parent, and they were always launched from a pop bottle, never held in the hand. We were supposed to light firecrackers on the ground, but of course we threw them, sometimes at each other. A kid in the neighborhood got hurt when she stuffed a whole bunch of firecrackers in a can and lit them all at once. Good times…..
We’re going to a baseball game tonight that has fireworks afterward, that’s all we’ll do this year because fireworks are illegal to have in the city. That doesn’t stop people, though. It hasn’t been that bad this year, I’ve heard there’s a shortage of fireworks plus people don’t have money to buy them.
WhatsMyNym
@Immanentize: It was stolen in 1977. They are not that rare and probably difficult to distinguish the year of manufacture. Sell for $6,000 to $9,000 used.
Another Scott
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yes, TFG and his enablers are a danger. So, report on what they’ve done and how they are dangerous to the republic.
Don’t do breathless reporting about “Will he or won’t he??!” “Some insiders say Monday!!11” etc. It’s the replay of “keep the live camera on the lectern, they say he’s coming out soon – it’s so exciting and NewsBreakery!!11” stuff.
(sigh)
Cheers,
Scott.
James E Powell
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
When it happens, the press is going to tell everyone that DeSantis is nothing like Trump, totally different, anyone who says otherwise is a hysterical person who hates America and the troops.
Betty Cracker
@Immanentize: I assumed when Biden said he was in favor of getting rid of the filibuster to codify Roe, he was talking about in a new Congress if Dems hold the House and add two more senators. I don’t think there’s anyway Manchin or Sinema are onboard.
oatler
I’m currently watching “The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street” which is part of Decades TV’s “Rod White and Blue” Twilight Zone weekend marathon. It’s prescient to say the least, like Rod’s “Class of ’99” from his Night Gallery series.
Baud
@Betty Cracker:
Me too. If Biden were to get Manchin and Sinema on board before the election, I would personally carve his face into Mt. Rushmore.
Baud
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Baud: every time I think I might have a theory about what Sinema’s actually doing, I get tired and give up. With Manchin, it’s not just his (I think sincere) belief that the filibuster is good, on this issue, he’s “pro-life”
Geminid
@Another Scott: I hope Trump does announce this summer. That will suck political oxygen away from Republican Congressional candidates right when they’re pushing to retake both Senate and House. And it will draw attention to his rallies, which have been freak shows for a while and are getting wierder.
Suzanne
Welp, SuzMom is also officially plague-positive, so that makes it the whole house. As such, we’ve given up on trying to isolate from one another. Called the doctor to get her some Paxlovid.
I have not been successful in avoiding e-shopping. Too many good sales this weekend.
Suzanne
I will also note that my damn neighbors started setting off fireworks last night. And then we had a good round of thunder and lighting. So I didn’t get to sleep until fairly late, which is obnoxious AF.
Maybe I’m a killjoy, but I hate fireworks outside of a planned display. I don’t have PTSD or anything, but I just find them obnoxious.
raven
@O. Felix Culpa: She is!
Steeplejack
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I think valued commenter Kay nailed it in the past: everything with Sinema is smoke and mirrors except cutting taxes for her corporate donors.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
in re: What is Sinema doing?
“small businesses”
I think Manchin may actually believe he wants to get to yes, but he’ll never have to fumble around for reasons not to as long as Sinema’s part of the negotiations.
Steeplejack
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Part of a good thread:
Mo MacArbie
As to “Summertime,” happy hunting. The Ohio Players have a brassy one with uptempo parts from 1969. Al Green has one that probably isn’t what you’re looking for. Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass?
Another Scott
@Steeplejack: Haven’t left the boat, but didn’t Moscow Mitch already say that he was going to fight any other bill if S&M agree to a reconciliation bill?
Why, yes, he did.
RollCall (from June 30):
Beating up on S&M isn’t going to fix things. Beating up on Moscow Mitch gives us a chance to increase our Senate margin and make S&M less relevant.
Eyes on the prizes.
Cheers,
Scott.
Steeplejack
@Mo MacArbie:
She is almost certainly thinking of the Billy Stewart version linked above.
Steeplejack
@Another Scott:
Futile, time-wasting negotiations with Sinema and Manchin don’t help either.
Barbara
@Steeplejack: Yes! Chess Records — I love that version. It’s so inspired.
Baud
@Another Scott:
Oh wow. I didn’t realize they were still working on BBB. That’s from a few days ago.
Immanentize
@Baud: I don’t think there was ever going to be anything but Dem votes in the Senate. That is what reconciliation is all about.
Suzanne
@Steeplejack:
Yeah.
I really don’t understand why the jackaltariat finds her so inscrutable and why dissection of her motives is such a frequent topic of discussion here. She is the way she is because it’s in her interest to be that way. She doesn’t have an ideology besides attention and enrichment. “Follow the money” was and always has been good advice.
Immanentize
@Suzanne: You don’t think she is willing to do stuff around codifying Roe?
MrKite
@Barbara: From Porgy and Bess. G. Gershwin 1935
Immanentize
@MrKite:
Suzanne
@Immanentize: She probably would vote to codify if it came to it, but she gets to hide behind the filibuster now and thus avoid taking a firm position on the issue. I think she is conflict-avoidant, which is why she pretends to love the filibuster.
Another Scott
@Steeplejack: S&M decide what’s going to be in any reconciliation bill – we know this. It has been that way since January 2021. There’s nothing new there. Let Schumer and the committee chairs and all the rest figure out what’s acceptable to them, pass it, declare victory, and move on. Beating up on S&M isn’t going to change anything – if anything, it makes them more stubborn (“See how centrist and moderate I am, fighting against those nasty out-of-state liberals!!11”).
It’s not getting worked up about what S&M do; it’s a distraction. We should devote all of our efforts to defeating the GQP and electing more Democrats.
My $0.02.
Cheers,
Scott.
Ruckus
@Andrew Abshier:
Nope. Not even a small flashlight bulb……
Steeplejack
@Immanentize, @Suzanne:
Coincidentally . . .
Salon: “Sinema kills plan to codify abortion rights—then fundraises on protecting women’s health care.”
Ruckus
@The Thin Black Duke:
Same concept, but a faster, louder, stupider, larger, more abnormal vehicle – SFB’s brain.
Now I know you are going to question faster and possibly larger. But think faster as a process of going from even semi normal to full on SFB. And larger is that he involves more people than on that 4 wheeled thing. IOW he’s more destructive, stupider, takes far more people down at a time and thinks that it’s every other brain that is less than his, when his brain is far stupider, louder, and more abnormal than others and has convinced many other abnormal brains to follow him because they are also stupid, loud, and well, abnormal.
Another Scott
@Suzanne: Both of them claim to be working hard to get the Senate to “work” by doing bipartisan stuff. That’s their brand. They’re not going to vote to change the filibuster because doing so would make everything “partisan” and break their brand.
As you say, this isn’t hard.
And it’s why the political press somehow being surprised and outraged that they won’t do carveouts for things that they support is disingenuous. S&M can, and probably do, support lots in the BBB and voting rights and all the rest, they just want any bills to be bipartisan or not to be big changes – they regard preserving their brand as being more important than protecting the country from Moscow Mitch and TFG.
So, any BBB-lite that gets through them will be incremental changes at best. Similarly with anything else (other than judges, cabinet secretaries, ambassadors, etc.). It’s just the way it is in a 50:50 Senate.
Our energies should be spent increasing the margin in the Senate, keeping the House, supporting Biden-Harris and Team D, and not getting distracted. IMHO.
Cheers,
Scott.
Layer8Problem
From whom, idiots? And clicking on the link gets a bonus “blame Democrats” take from Nina Turner, so screw that.
debbie
Jesus. What are they making us into?
https://twitter.com/gavibegtrup/status/1543002460285026305?s=21&t=OStSxsC9aFdZpOPJUY3GYg
zamphuor
deleted, I was too slow