Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

The republican speaker is a slippery little devil.

Stamping your little feets and demanding that they see how important you are? Not working anymore.

“In the future, this lab will be a museum. do not touch it.”

The media handbook says “controversial” is the most negative description that can be used for a Republican.

Let’s delete this post and never speak of this again.

The unpunished coup was a training exercise.

Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.

You come for women, you’re gonna get your ass kicked.

Something needs to be done about our bogus SCOTUS.

You are so fucked. Still, I wish you the best of luck.

I am pretty sure these ‘journalists’ were not always such a bootlicking sycophants.

You are either for trump or for democracy. Pick one.

Their freedom requires your slavery.

When I was faster i was always behind.

The worst democrat is better than the best republican.

We cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation.

The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.”

GOP baffled that ‘we don’t care if you die’ is not a winning slogan.

When we show up, we win.

Do not shrug your shoulders and accept the normalization of untruths.

Petty moves from a petty man.

I like political parties that aren’t owned by foreign adversaries.

One way or another, he’s a liar.

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In case you missed it in the earlier thread:  CNET has a great recap of all 6 hearings so far.

Jan. 6 hearing expected to focus on link between militants, White House

The committee’s seventh public hearing is due to feature testimony from a former Oath Keeper and delve into origins of a Trump tweet.

The House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection plans to hold its seventh public hearing on Tuesday, with an expected focus on the ways in which President Donald Trump and his allies summoned far-right militant groups to Washington as he grew increasingly desperate to hold on to power.

The hearing is likely to drill down on the period after states cast their electoral college votes on Dec. 14, 2020, action that confirmed Joe Biden’s victory. Trump, the committee is expected to argue, then shifted his focus to using the date of the congressional counting of the votes, Jan. 6, 2021, to block a peaceful transfer of power.

A committee aide said on a conference call with reporters Monday that the hearing will lay out the way that far-right militant groups such as the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers and others took cues from Trump and his allies. Particular attention will be paid to his Dec. 19, 2020, posting on Twitter: “Big protest in D.C. on January 6th,” Trump tweeted. “Be there, will be wild!”

The committee will also highlight the ties between violent extremist groups and Trump associates — connections that lawmakers on the committee have already hinted at during previous hearings.

“We will show how some of these right-wing extremist groups who came to D.C. and led the attack on the Capitol had ties to Trump associates, including Roger Stone and General Mike Flynn,” said the committee aide.

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  1. 1.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    Can anyone confirm that:

    • there was a prime time hearing originally scheduled for this Thursday, Jul 14, and
    • it is now postponed to sometime next week?
    • that’s the last scheduled televised hearing? (If so, I imagine it’s going to be closing arguments).

    This is what I think I’ve heard in a flurry of updates over the last few days but I could be mistaken.

  3. 3.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:  @zhena gogolia: I think I’ve heard “last scheduled”, but haven’t there also been reports that they could be conducting hearings into the fall? they’re leaving their options open, I imagine.

    I imagine they have contingency plans and ever-changing draft reports depending on the political situation in October. Look for a lot of strategic leaking in the weeks running up to Election Day (I hope)

  4. 4.

    Martin

    I’m waiting for evidence of direct communication between WH officials and these groups. That will be a big fucking deal. Rumor is we’ll see it.

    I keep coming back to this anecdote:

    “That f—ing guy Jim Jordan. That son of a b—-,” Cheney told Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Mark Milley on the phone, detailing the siege, according to I Alone Can Fix It, by Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker.

    “While these maniacs are going through the place, I’m standing in the aisle and he said, ‘We need to get the ladies away from the aisle. Let me help you,’ ” recalled Cheney, then the House of Representatives’ No. 3 Republican, per the book. “I smacked his hand away and told him, ‘Get away from me. You f—ing did this.’ “

    Liz knew what was up. Maybe not the details of it, but certainly the contours. You have to assume that every GOP was invited into this plot, and Liz turned them down. But she knows that Jordan did more than just the usual propaganda bullshit. I have to assume that Liz relayed that information to Pelosi when McCarthy named Jordan to the committee and that was why Jordan was vetoed by her. Still waiting for that evidence to come out.

  6. 6.

    zhena gogolia

    @Martin: Can you imagine these hearings with Jordan there?

    It’s like Cheney and Kinzinger are the only two Republicans in the country whose brains haven’t been eaten — and they’re about to be gone from Congress.

  7. 7.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Martin:

    Liz knew what was up. Maybe not the details of it, but certainly the contours. You have to assume that every GOP was invited into this plot, and Liz turned them down. But she knows that Jordan did more than just the usual propaganda bullshit. I have to assume that Liz relayed that information to Pelosi when McCarthy named Jordan to the committee and that was why Jordan was vetoed by her. Still waiting for that evidence to come out.

    Interesting. I’m imagining other Cassidy Hutchissons among the Hill staff whispering to each other at lunch and over drinks. Not hard to imagine there were people in Jordan’s/Biggs/Gosar’s offices talking to people in Cheney’s. “Dude, you’re not going to fucking believe what I heard him say last night…”

  8. 8.

    Martin

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: The first two points are accurate, the third is not. There is a hearing scheduled for next week led by Kinsinger and I think Stephanie Murphy.

    The final hearing will be led by Thompson and Cheney, so I think we have 3 more at a minimum. I understand they want the closing hearing to be primetime as well. I believe the one that was being teed up for Thursday was centered on the Dec 18 meeting and would have been led by Adam Schiff. I think Cipplione provided a lot of information on that meeting so there might be more work to do on that. The Dec 18 meeting was the marshal law/seize the voting machines/rerun the election meeting.

  10. 10.

    WaterGirl

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: Yes on 1 and 2.

    I can’t imagine 3 is correct because there are still too many moving parts – too much new information is still coming in, only a fool would arbitrarily stop the process.  Just my opinion, of course. ‍♀️

  13. 13.

    MisterForkbeard

    @eclare: It’s amazing how much can get done when Republicans aren’t actively fucking up the government, isn’t it?

  15. 15.

    Martin

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I think it’s more damning than that. Everything about this plot was a whole of party effort. The RNC helped, and they needed all GOP house members on board. They must have approached Cheney with the plan – especially as the #3 member.

    There’s this moment when someone presents some cockamamie (autocorrect ftw) plan and you dismiss it out of hand because it’s just so insane, and then you realize you’re the only one who thinks its insane and holy shit, people might sign onto this. Floating an idiotic idea is not criminal, but there’s an ephemeral moment when it transitions from an idea to a plan.

    I have to assume that happened here. That Cheney was aware of the idea, possibly spoke out against it (Cheney has been great in this hearing, but I’m not willing to give her too much credit – she didn’t say jack shit prior to 1/6) and was cut out and wasn’t aware just how far the plan was bought into.

    But she had to have known about the contours of the idea because she was a desired element of its execution.

  17. 17.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    OK, I stand corrected. Might be the “last scheduled” in the sense that it’s the last one with a firm date, but I agree that more, possibly many more, will be added week by week in response to evidence.

    And I did hear, as we all did, that Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony encouraged a bunch of new witnesses so there’s that at least in addition to Cipollone.

  22. 22.

    Dangerman

    @Baud: California GOP? I’ve seen these creatures, but only in Museums. Well, Whacks Museums. Maybe it was a haunted house. Definitely rare.

  28. 28.

    Leto

    One of the things one of the talking MSNBC lawyer heads was talking about a few days ago was how we needed a connection/link between Cassidy Hutchinson and what was being said in Trumpov’s inner circle. Essentially what was being said in the Oval Office. I think Cipollone’s testimony is going to be that bridge.

  29. 29.

    Martin

    Oh, okay. We’re going to head off the ‘childlike innocence’ line of reasoning right off the top.

  30. 30.

    trollhattan

    @Baud: The supermajority is key, because a mere majority in either house gives the minority party powers out of proportion to their actual count. Especially important at budget time.

    IIRC Jerry 2.0 and Gav have had it much of the time.

    We still need to fix the initiative and recall processes.

  33. 33.

    piratedan

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: i wouldn’t be shocked if they laid on additional meetings as the information comes in…

     

    today we find out how the RW militia groups were recruited/volunteered

    maybe later we find out who handled the logistics of said plan, who co-opted whose rally and provided room, board, transport and planning .

    then we find out who is sitting in Congress as we speak and aided and abetted this from within the confines of government

    shit, they could spend another 5 months trying to unravel this shit as they follow the money, how it was coordinated with the media and by his own party… shit at this point, determining how much logistical support he got from Putin on this wouldn’t be a shocker.

  34. 34.

    oatler

    “I’m Jim Lamon and if elected I will Shut Down Congress and Make Them Build the Wall”

    Not a joke, his ads are nonstop in AZ.

  37. 37.

    Leto

    @Martin: it continues to work for his shitbag kids (“they’re just kids” – too many fucking journalists), might as well try it for him.

  39. 39.

    zhena gogolia

    Murphy: getting ready for 1/6, “the President called for backup.” “Be there, will be wild” tweet.

  40. 40.

    Fair Economist

    @Baud:

    Didn’t California turn their government around when Dems got a supermajority that prevented the GOP from mucking things up?

    Oh, absolutely. It was shockingly significant and abrupt. We went from having a major budget crisis every single year to a smooth process with consistently balanced budgets. Just like that .

  42. 42.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    interesting name check of Scott Perry, who in my reading/viewing has been less prominent that say, Gosar and Jordan

    @Leto: she wouldn’t need a gun, I don’t think she’d even bother to take off her glasses or kick off her shoes, so she could drive a high heel into his crotch while he cried and whimpered on the mat

  45. 45.

    zhena gogolia

    Rasking talking about “the craziest meeting of the Trump presidency.” “draft executive order” for immediate mass seizure of state election machines by us military. That idea rejected. That night DJT decided to call for a “large and wild crowd” for 1/6.

  47. 47.

    Ken

    @Martin: We’re going to head off the ‘childlike innocence’

    Of Trump?  I might accept “childish”, but no form of “innocence” can possibly apply.

  48. 48.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Leto: Stephanie Reuhle had that British documentary maker on her show last night, and one interesting detail was none of the LAC are willing to talk about 1/6, not even Fredo.

    And he refused to answer when asked if anyone from the trump camp had tried to contact him when he was subpoenaed, citing “security” as one of the reasons. Which I took to be a “yes”

  53. 53.

    Leto

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I think the gun would be to simply continue the family legacy. Her dad is the shady manager whose job it is to distract the ref, trip up the other person in the corner/near the ropes, and to toss objects in for the signature moves. I’m also thinking about the old MTV claymation, Celebrity Death Match. ;)

  57. 57.

    zhena gogolia

    Wish my neighbor with the big “TRUMP WON AND WE ALL KNOW IT” banner could watch this.

  63. 63.

    Scout211

    Cipollone on tape agrees no evidence of election fraud and should have conceded.

  64. 64.

    Leto

    Barr’s voice ranks right there with Trumpov’s voice as some of the most disgusting sounds ever made on this planet.

  66. 66.

    Ken

    @Scout211: Not quite true, we do know of some incidents where people tried to vote twice. All Trump voters, as far as I’ve heard.

  72. 72.

    Scout211

    @Ken: Throughout the hearing it has been “fraud to the extent that it would have affected the outcome of the election.” My fingers don’t type that quickly. LOL

  76. 76.

    The Lodger

    @zhena gogolia: i heard Murphy on NPR this morning. She was focused and she wasn’t grandstanding at all. I didn’t know she was actually a member of Congress until the end of the interview.  Quiet but impressive.

  81. 81.

    Ksmiami

    @Baud: yes – because putting a political party in charge that doesn’t believe in government is suicide. Don’t die- vote Dem.

  84. 84.

    Leto

    There’s a reason we want you to verbalize why seizing voting machines is bad: to get you on the record saying that, as well as you stating that you told the President that. Also to make sure that your testimony matches up with other people’s testimony.

  89. 89.

    UncleEbeneezer

    1/6 Related.  I usually like Marcy Wheeler, but this was just silly/ignorant:

    “Protip for those prepping to learn about the Oath Keeper and Proud Boy militia conspiracies that DOJ has been pursuing since Jan 6: Two of the indicted Oath Keepers are Black, Tarrio is afro-Cuban, and there are several other indicted Hispanics.  Which is to say — calling them “white supremacist” militias isn’t going to get you very far.”

    The Oathkeepers and Proud Boys etc. are absolutely White Supremacist/Nationalist, they just don’t say it out loud.  Some pull quotes from Racism & Identity in the Patriot Movement:

    “Most Patriot movement groups today have a “colorblind” approach, and say they are not racist. The Oath Keepers’ bylaws specifically bar open racists.(1)”

    “The origins of the Patriot movement tactics and approaches are tied up in organized racist currents. As mentioned, many of their beliefs were developed as a coherent political package by the racist Posse Comitatus. In the 1980s, one commentator described the Patriot movement as “half” racist.(5) By the 1990s militia movement, perhaps less than a quarter of members were connected to explicitly White separatist groups; Christian Identity members still held prominent positions.”

    “Nonetheless, the movement’s organizational structures and political goals remain largely the same as in the days of open racism—even though the reasoning behind the arguments has changed.”

    “While the Patriot movement does not make explicit appeals to racial purity or interests, their sidestepping of racial issues seems to result in them reproducing images and themes of an all-white America, which then resembles White nationalist visions. They base their appeals to social groups that are some of the remaining vast majority-White sections of the United States: farm operators, and what’s left of logging and mining communities, for example.”

  96. 96.

    James E Powell

    @Dangerman:

    Sadly, they are still around. I think the new California 41st is R+4 and it looks like my insurrection supporting Trump worshipping congress-creature will be easily re-elected.

  99. 99.

    Leto

    @UncleEbeneezer: it’s like the Dave Chappelle skit with the him playing the blind racist. “Nobody has told him because he’s so effective!” The usual, “They can’t be racist because they have POC!”

  101. 101.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Fair Economist: Of course, if you mention California in any open public forum where they don’t delete this stuff, the thread will be full of RWNJs talking about how the place is now an uninhabitable shithole and its residents are fleeing for their lives.

    (Often with floridly racist imagery.)

  103. 103.

    James E Powell

    @zhena gogolia:

    Wish my neighbor with the big “TRUMP WON AND WE ALL KNOW IT” banner could watch this.

    Would it do any good? Those people can’t be reached.

  108. 108.

    Almost Retired

    Product Placement!    Sidney has a can of Dr. Pepper at her deposition!

    ETA:  Damn  it!   G&T by a few seconds!

  112. 112.

    zhena gogolia

    “Every judge is corrupt? Even the ones we appointed?” Herschmann to Powell.

  113. 113.

    Fair Economist

    @Matt McIrvin: I’ve generally found I can win the case easily against the “California is a hellhole” people. We have lower taxes for all but the very rich, longer lifespans than any Red state, lower murder, lower rape, solid budgets – and it’s all easily provable with links. “Welcome to the 21st Century” is a good line for all this.

  114. 114.

    Scout211

    Those White House legal advisors were so mean to the president! (Sidney Powell).

  118. 118.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    I’m listening but it sounds like this video going back and forth between Nutbags Powell and Patsy Baloney sounds like it was really well put together

  124. 124.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Fair Economist: I know the main reason I don’t live there (aside from contingencies of my life story) is just that it’s hella expensive in the places where I’d want to be, which I suspect is the main reason its population growth has leveled off.

  126. 126.

    Leto

    Nosferatu-liani displaying his verbal acumen. I’m still waiting for the Army to do the correct thing and recall Flynn, strip him of his rank, and maybe finally demonstrate what is supposed to happen to traitorous shitbags.

  127. 127.

    The Moar You Know

    Didn’t California turn their government around when Dems got a supermajority that prevented the GOP from mucking things up?

    @Baud: I’m sure others replied to this, but I wanted to pile on:  that is the ONLY thing that stopped the GOP from throwing sand into every mechanism of state government that they could, and if we ever lose that supermajority, they will go right back to it.  I would LOVE an opposition party that would act in good faith when they are not in power.  That is not today’s GOP, not anywhere in this nation.

    It is not an accident that within 2 years of Dems getting the CA supermajority that we went from fiscal basket case to debt-free and have stayed that way ever since, to the point where CA is having to plan what to spend our now enormous surpluses on.

  128. 128.

    Old School

    @Fair Economist:

    Given how awful Sidney Powell is, does this count as product misplacement?

    The folks at Diet Dr. Pepper are probably having an emergency meeting at the moment.

  131. 131.

    Leto

    Cipollone saying that Powell wasn’t appointed because the paperwork wasn’t done. Considering how they didn’t do the proper paperwork for anything, hell, she might have been appointed and just nobody understood that.

  132. 132.

    James E Powell

    @Matt McIrvin:

    Of course, if you mention California in any open public forum where they don’t delete this stuff, the thread will be full of RWNJs talking about how the place is now an uninhabitable shithole and its residents are fleeing for their lives.

    Illustrative anecdote: Back in my beloved home state of Ohio visiting my brother. Casual conversation with a contractor guy who is working on his house. I’m introduced as “my brother from California.”

    Contractor: (loud & scornful)

    California! Isn’t everybody moving out of California?

    Me: (spider sense activated, retreating to neutral ground)

    I do love the weather.

    Contractor: (still kind of loud)

    Well they have pretty good weather in Venezuela too!

    It wasn’t until after he left that I realized what he was trying to say. What the fuck is wrong with these people?

  133. 133.

    Citizen Alan

    @Leto:  They would hardly be the first people of color who might try to earn a place for themselves in elite society by becoming tireless advocates for white supremacy.  Clarence Thomas, Dean Baquet,  Candice Owens, Geralda Rivera, and Diamond and Silk (or whoever they are) have been showing how it’s done for decades, albeit less violently.

  138. 138.

    Betty Cracker

    Say what you want about Patsy Baloney, but he is one dapper dude. He knows it too. In just about every clip, he adjusts his crisp, immaculate white cuffs and straightens his elegant tie. 

  140. 140.

    Soprano2

    @The Moar You Know: I wondered what happened to the perennial stories about what a cluster the CA budget is. I notice that the press never talks about how well-managed it is anymore. I guess that’s boring.

  143. 143.

    West of the Rockies

    @HumboldtBlue:

    How does she manage to look so stupid and smug at the same time?  She has all the style of a 1978 sofa still in use in Aunt Betsy’s den.

  146. 146.

    Scout211

    Ooh. Twitter worker in disguise talking about the platform being used for inciting violence by Trump. A mob being organized and gathering their weaponry.

  147. 147.

    Leto

    @Citizen Alan: oh, absolutely. And as Uncle is saying, it’s absolutely silly/dumb to try to say that calling that out might look bad. White people will ofc glomp onto that framing but it’s bad. Again, example infinity of our press failing us.

  148. 148.

    Ruckus

    @Dangerman:

    Go East young man!

    CA is a big state and a lot of the rural areas are pretty damn redish.

    Devin Cow Nunes was one of ours. Raygun was gov. We have Orange county, which I believe voted dem for the first time not long ago.

    The heavily populated areas far out vote the rural so we look more dem than we otherwise would.

  152. 152.

    cain

    So kill all the democrats, man, women, and children? Fuck you. Every American should be alarmed by such rhetoric.

  154. 154.

    Almost Retired

    Nice!   The extremist wearing the Reagan/Bush T-shirt is drawing a nice visual line for us from the Reagan years to where we are today.

  158. 158.

    Ken

    @Ruckus: Devin Cow Nunes was one of ours.

    (Lecter voice) Not any more.

    Didn’t something awful happen to the Trump company that he is managing? Like, a dozen lawsuits and a grand jury or two?

  160. 160.

    cain

    @Soprano2: They were ready to kill all of us. Maybe the NYT can find a diner where they can ask questions of Trump supporters about what they felt about such rhetoric.

    We should be asking all these Trump supporters where they stand.

    ETA what really alarmed me is that even children were considered the enemy.

  161. 161.

    Fair Economist

    @James E Powell:

    Contractor: (loud & scornful)

    California! Isn’t everybody moving out of California?

    Oh I LOVE sparring with people like that! I start talking about how people in California live longer and make more money and are better protected from crime. Then I mention the awesome weather, great economy, and great amenities. Then I mention how it all got so awesome *after* we thumped the Republicans out of state government.

    Inevitably they shut up and change the subject.

  162. 162.

    Paul in KY

    @Leto: I will be so disappointed if that does not happen. He’s a fucking traitor who’s probably a Russian spy as well.

  163. 163.

    Kent

    Just tuned in and missed most of it, but the MSNBC people are acting pretty stunned.

  164. 164.

    Fair Economist

    “Never heard anything like this” according to the talking heads on MSNBC. Wow.

  165. 165.

    Baud

    I feel like this hearing is distracting us from the controversy about Biden’s age.

  168. 168.

    citizen dave

    What should I wear for my insurrection deposition?  I know, my Saint Ronnie 1984 t shirt.  That’ll show ’em.

    (Guess I need to keep holding onto my Clash Combat Rock tour t shirt on case I’m ever deposed.

  169. 169.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @Kent: Just tuned in and missed most of it, but the MSNBC people are acting pretty stunned.

    Watching the Committee’s own YouTube feed, so not seeing any news reaction. But I’m feeling pretty stunned myself.

    All through these hearings, before each revelation I keep thinking I’ve reached peak “holy shit”.

    But I keep finding new levels of “holy shit”.

    I’m just sitting here, all by myself in front of the screen, saying that phrase over and over and over.

  170. 170.

    frosty

    @MisterForkbeard: A transcontinental railroad and land grant colleges, for example. Both occurred when the southern states had seceded and couldn’t block anything.

  171. 171.

    zhena gogolia

    @Baud: Hahaha!

    This one is as fabulous as the Hutchinson one, maybe even better, as the cast of characters is larger. Powell is a great TV character, sippin’ on her Dr. Pepper.

  174. 174.

    citizen dave

    Subject to check but I believe (might have learned here) that there were more trump voters in Cali than in any other state, but large population etc.

    Can’t help but always thinking that the stupid EC is what facilitates so much bullshit.  We needed  majority votes WIN Presidency 25 years ago.  Now we need it to survive as a functioning nation.

  176. 176.

    zhena gogolia

    I like the picture of Meadows escorting Rudy “off-campus” to make sure he wouldn’t sneak back in and get in bed with TFG.

  177. 177.

    Scout211

    LC’s opening statement about Trump advisors at first testifying that nothing happened and denying everything and then changing it to say Trump was forced to do it by outsiders was a very good opening. So far, the hearing shows over and over again how Trump had a plan to stay in office and only listened to people who told him they could help him do that.

  183. 183.

    Kent

    @frosty:@MisterForkbeard: A transcontinental railroad and land grant colleges, for example. Both occurred when the southern states had seceded and couldn’t block anything.

    Yes.  Honestly it isn’t so much Republicans as the South that drags us down.  Take Florida and Texas out of the picture an all the states inbetween and this country’s politics looks a LOT different.  It doesn’t matter whether they were Republicans or Democrats, they have been universally revanchist, undemocratic, and horrible since day one.

  186. 186.

    James E Powell

    @Fair Economist:

    Oh I LOVE sparring with people like that!

    I understood it was one of those situations where I was supposed to nod & smile, so I did. The tension, then relief on my brother’s face was priceless.

  187. 187.

    Leto

    @citizen dave: there’s more conservatives in Orange County than in 5-6 combined. You can point that out, and how that skews Congress, and people will still dismiss it. It’s the same as when Republicans will throw up maps of the country, pointing to all the “red areas” and how they think that translates into votes/representation of the countries “beliefs”. And as we always say: land doesn’t vote.

  190. 190.

    piratedan

    still having issues with pundits who are not busy confirming my personal biases regarding if the committee has “proven” enough guilt yet during these breaks… has she not been watching the SCOTUS rulings of late, apparently proof needs to be notarized at the time of guilt.

  192. 192.

    Geminid

    @The Lodger: Stephanie Murphy has been in Congress since 2017, but like many other capable Democratic Representatives she has not gotten much notice outside her own district. It’s good that she’s gotten a turn on the national stage. Perhaps anticipating being gerrymandered out of her Florida district, Murphy along with fellow J6 Committee member Adam Kinzinger is retiring after this term.

    Murphy was born in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam. Her family fled Vietnam on a small boat when she was one year old. They ended up in northern Virginia, and Murphy attended William and Mary as well as Georgetown before moving to Florida. She beat Republican John Mica in 2016 to win her seat in Congress. Although cross-affiliated with the New Democratic Coalition, Murphy chairs the 19-member Blue Dog Caucus.

  193. 193.

    narya

    I’m recording for later viewing, but following along here as i can. Not only did I get my more-normie-than-me Friend to watch, but he got his sister to watch, apparently. (His family range from garden-variety republicans, i think, to RWNJs.) He was completely turned off of politics by the Iran-Contra hearings–all that bad behavior, with no consequences–but I’ve been trying to tell him that it’s important to get this on the record, even if we don’t get what we want out of it.

  195. 195.

    SFBayAreaGal

    Watching CBS News and one of the commentators said Republican party was guilty of standing by, leading up to January 6th.

  197. 197.

    Ken

    @Fair Economist: “Never heard anything like this” according to the talking heads on MSNBC.

    I can’t help but think that is part of the problem. What sources of information do the talking heads rely on, that they’ve not had even a hint of this?

  199. 199.

    Scout211

    C-span says the committee is working out some technical issues and the recess may be longer than usual.

  201. 201.

    Ken

    @James E Powell: I understood it was one of those situations where I was supposed to nod & smile, so I did. The tension, then relief on my brother’s face was priceless.

    “Bro, he’s halfway through redoing my roof, and I have neither time nor money to find a new contractor….”

  202. 202.

    PPCLI

     

    @Scout211:

    Patrick Byrne. Now where have I heard that name before….Hmmm….

    There’s a little noticed sign of how many metric tonnes of batshit crazy are being revealed right now. In previous eras, it would have been a big deal — top story for weeks — if the president were being advised by a guy who had an extended intimate relationship with a CONVICTED RUSSIAN SPY. Now it doesn’t even get mentioned. Too much other stuff that is even crazier.

  203. 203.

    Fair Economist

    I love the bank robber analogy! “Just because you think the bank owes you money, you can’t rob the bank!”

  207. 207.

    Scout211

    @Fair Economist: I used that for Steve Bannon. Just because you offered to pay back the money the night before your trial doesn’t mean you never committed the robbery. LOL

  215. 215.

    Eunicecycle

    @misterpuff: my daughter in law’s grandfather is addicted to it, the full sugar type. His wife finally cut him off and he soon lost 20 pounds.

  218. 218.

    Fair Economist

    Holy f***, nailed Flynn as planning insurrection, including locations of police stations.

    Stone too!

  219. 219.

    Paul in KY

    I like the Descendents. Have seen a fine set of theirs at Riotfest. Do not like it that some tattooed up loser is wearing a Milo shirt.

    Assume & hope they don’t like it either.

  223. 223.

    CaseyL

    Stone and Flynn were both recipients of pardons from Trump.  How encompassing were those pardons?

  224. 224.

    Betty Cracker

    Committee gave a shout-out to Kelly Meggs, an Oaf Keeper who used to live in a town near me. He lives in the DC jail now. Ha!

  225. 225.

    Fair Economist

    “Oathbreakers, do your ****ing job!”

    Which I assume is – break oaths?

    Explains so much.

  228. 228.

    Kent

    @CaseyL:Stone and Flynn were both recipients of pardons from Trump.  How encompassing were those pardons?

    No idea.  But being pardoned means you absolutely CANNOT take the 5th if subpoenaed to testify.

  230. 230.

    Steve in the ATL

    @Geminid:

     

    They ended up in northern Virginia, and Murphy attended William and Mary as well as Georgetown before moving to Florida.

    A great story with a tragic ending!

  231. 231.

    UncleEbeneezer

    @Matt McIrvin:

    UC Studies: Contrary to popular belief, residents are not fleeing CA

    Despite California losing a congressional seat for the first time in history due to slow population growth and some high-profile technology companies and billionaires leaving the state, there is no evidence of an abnormal increase in residents planning to move out of the state, according to the results of a new survey released today (July 7) by the University of California. This research is part of a larger, multi-institution research project led by UC to assess whether there is in fact a “Cal exodus.”

    Key findings include:

    • The majority of Californians still believe in the “California Dream.”
    • Residents are moving out of state, but not at unusual rates.
    • There is no evidence of “millionaire flight” from California.
    • California’s economy attracts as much venture capital as all other states combined.

  233. 233.

    Geminid

     

     

    @CaseyL: Stone’s pardon telated to his convictions consequent to the Muellar investigation. His stonewalling was the main reason Muellar’s team could not prove the connection between Trump and the Russians. Trump’s pardon of him did not absolve Stone of future crimes.

  235. 235.

    TheTruffle

    This is the first time I have heard Alex Jones’ speaking voice. Gah. How can anyone listen to him speak?

  236. 236.

    TheTruffle

    @Matt McIrvin: They say the same shit about New York. Having lived here most of my life, I can confirm New York is a wonderful state. Yes, we have problems, but it irks me that people rag on the state.

  237. 237.

    Geminid

    @UncleEbeneezer: California is still reaping the rewards of that state’s investment higher education since the middle of the last century. Jerry Brown’s father Pat Brown helped get the ball rolling when he was governor.

  240. 240.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @catclub: Nobody goes there anymore, cause demand for housing has driven prices through the roof

    doesn’t roll of the tongue like Yogi’s original line

  241. 241.

    sab

    @WaterGirl: Naw, he’s the one who had an affair with a fellow staffer while his wife was pregmant, and allegedly (but probably didn’t) slip the pregnant-with-his-child staffer an abortifacient disguised in a smoothy. She had the kid and he initially denied paternity to avoid child support.

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