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You are here: Home / Jan 6: Hearings / Jan 6 Hearing – Day 7 on Tuesday at 1 pm Eastern

Jan 6 Hearing – Day 7 on Tuesday at 1 pm Eastern

by WaterGirl|  July 12, 20224:30 pm| 242 Comments

This post is in: Jan 6: Hearings, Jan 6: Insurrection, Open Threads

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In case you missed it in the earlier thread:  CNET has a great recap of all 6 hearings so far.

❗️UPDATED TIME❗️

Tuesday’s hearing will start at 1:00pm ET https://t.co/jRK85ED2lw

— January 6th Committee (@January6thCmte) July 10, 2022

Jan. 6 hearing expected to focus on link between militants, White House

The committee’s seventh public hearing is due to feature testimony from a former Oath Keeper and delve into origins of a Trump tweet.

The House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection plans to hold its seventh public hearing on Tuesday, with an expected focus on the ways in which President Donald Trump and his allies summoned far-right militant groups to Washington as he grew increasingly desperate to hold on to power.

The hearing is likely to drill down on the period after states cast their electoral college votes on Dec. 14, 2020, action that confirmed Joe Biden’s victory. Trump, the committee is expected to argue, then shifted his focus to using the date of the congressional counting of the votes, Jan. 6, 2021, to block a peaceful transfer of power.

A committee aide said on a conference call with reporters Monday that the hearing will lay out the way that far-right militant groups such as the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers and others took cues from Trump and his allies. Particular attention will be paid to his Dec. 19, 2020, posting on Twitter: “Big protest in D.C. on January 6th,” Trump tweeted. “Be there, will be wild!”

The committee will also highlight the ties between violent extremist groups and Trump associates — connections that lawmakers on the committee have already hinted at during previous hearings.

“We will show how some of these right-wing extremist groups who came to D.C. and led the attack on the Capitol had ties to Trump associates, including Roger Stone and General Mike Flynn,” said the committee aide.

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  1. 1.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    July 12, 2022 at 12:36 pm

    Can anyone confirm that:

    • there was a prime time hearing originally scheduled for this Thursday, Jul 14, and
    • it is now postponed to sometime next week?
    • that’s the last scheduled televised hearing? (If so, I imagine it’s going to be closing arguments).

    This is what I think I’ve heard in a flurry of updates over the last few days but I could be mistaken.

  2. 2.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 12:38 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: I’ve heard the first and second. I didn’t hear of any final hearing.

  3. 3.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 12, 2022 at 12:40 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:  @zhena gogolia: I think I’ve heard “last scheduled”, but haven’t there also been reports that they could be conducting hearings into the fall? they’re leaving their options open, I imagine.

    I imagine they have contingency plans and ever-changing draft reports depending on the political situation in October. Look for a lot of strategic leaking in the weeks running up to Election Day (I hope)

  4. 4.

    Martin

    July 12, 2022 at 12:42 pm

    I’m waiting for evidence of direct communication between WH officials and these groups. That will be a big fucking deal. Rumor is we’ll see it.

    I keep coming back to this anecdote:

    “That f—ing guy Jim Jordan. That son of a b—-,” Cheney told Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Mark Milley on the phone, detailing the siege, according to I Alone Can Fix It, by Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker.

    “While these maniacs are going through the place, I’m standing in the aisle and he said, ‘We need to get the ladies away from the aisle. Let me help you,’ ” recalled Cheney, then the House of Representatives’ No. 3 Republican, per the book. “I smacked his hand away and told him, ‘Get away from me. You f—ing did this.’ “

    Liz knew what was up. Maybe not the details of it, but certainly the contours. You have to assume that every GOP was invited into this plot, and Liz turned them down. But she knows that Jordan did more than just the usual propaganda bullshit. I have to assume that Liz relayed that information to Pelosi when McCarthy named Jordan to the committee and that was why Jordan was vetoed by her. Still waiting for that evidence to come out.

  5. 5.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 12:42 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yeah, that’s more in line with what I thought.

  6. 6.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 12:44 pm

    @Martin: Can you imagine these hearings with Jordan there?

    It’s like Cheney and Kinzinger are the only two Republicans in the country whose brains haven’t been eaten — and they’re about to be gone from Congress.

  7. 7.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 12, 2022 at 12:47 pm

    @Martin:

    Liz knew what was up. Maybe not the details of it, but certainly the contours. You have to assume that every GOP was invited into this plot, and Liz turned them down. But she knows that Jordan did more than just the usual propaganda bullshit. I have to assume that Liz relayed that information to Pelosi when McCarthy named Jordan to the committee and that was why Jordan was vetoed by her. Still waiting for that evidence to come out.

    Interesting. I’m imagining other Cassidy Hutchissons among the Hill staff whispering to each other at lunch and over drinks. Not hard to imagine there were people in Jordan’s/Biggs/Gosar’s offices talking to people in Cheney’s. “Dude, you’re not going to fucking believe what I heard him say last night…”

  8. 8.

    Martin

    July 12, 2022 at 12:48 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: The first two points are accurate, the third is not. There is a hearing scheduled for next week led by Kinsinger and I think Stephanie Murphy.

    The final hearing will be led by Thompson and Cheney, so I think we have 3 more at a minimum. I understand they want the closing hearing to be primetime as well. I believe the one that was being teed up for Thursday was centered on the Dec 18 meeting and would have been led by Adam Schiff. I think Cipplione provided a lot of information on that meeting so there might be more work to do on that. The Dec 18 meeting was the marshal law/seize the voting machines/rerun the election meeting.

  9. 9.

    eclare

    July 12, 2022 at 12:54 pm

    @zhena gogolia:   Yes.  Thank dog Jordan isn’t there.

  10. 10.

    WaterGirl

    July 12, 2022 at 12:54 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: Yes on 1 and 2.

    I can’t imagine 3 is correct because there are still too many moving parts – too much new information is still coming in, only a fool would arbitrarily stop the process.  Just my opinion, of course. ‍♀️

  11. 11.

    Immanentize

    July 12, 2022 at 12:54 pm

    @Martin:

    KINZINGER

    STRZOK

  12. 12.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 12:56 pm

    @Immanentize: You forgot

    CIPOLLONE

  13. 13.

    MisterForkbeard

    July 12, 2022 at 12:57 pm

    @eclare: It’s amazing how much can get done when Republicans aren’t actively fucking up the government, isn’t it?

  14. 14.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 12:58 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: It’s a miracle — to have a room full of Congresspeople acting in good faith.

  15. 15.

    Martin

    July 12, 2022 at 12:59 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I think it’s more damning than that. Everything about this plot was a whole of party effort. The RNC helped, and they needed all GOP house members on board. They must have approached Cheney with the plan – especially as the #3 member.

    There’s this moment when someone presents some cockamamie (autocorrect ftw) plan and you dismiss it out of hand because it’s just so insane, and then you realize you’re the only one who thinks its insane and holy shit, people might sign onto this. Floating an idiotic idea is not criminal, but there’s an ephemeral moment when it transitions from an idea to a plan.

    I have to assume that happened here. That Cheney was aware of the idea, possibly spoke out against it (Cheney has been great in this hearing, but I’m not willing to give her too much credit – she didn’t say jack shit prior to 1/6) and was cut out and wasn’t aware just how far the plan was bought into.

    But she had to have known about the contours of the idea because she was a desired element of its execution.

  16. 16.

    Baud

    July 12, 2022 at 12:59 pm

    @MisterForkbeard:

    Didn’t California turn their government around when Dems got a supermajority that prevented the GOP from mucking things up?

  17. 17.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    July 12, 2022 at 1:00 pm

    OK, I stand corrected. Might be the “last scheduled” in the sense that it’s the last one with a firm date, but I agree that more, possibly many more, will be added week by week in response to evidence.

    And I did hear, as we all did, that Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony encouraged a bunch of new witnesses so there’s that at least in addition to Cipollone.

  18. 18.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    July 12, 2022 at 1:02 pm

    @Baud: Yep. A model for the nation.

  19. 19.

    WaterGirl

    July 12, 2022 at 1:03 pm

    it’s on!

  20. 20.

    Fair Economist

    July 12, 2022 at 1:03 pm

    Gavel! Here we go!

  21. 21.

    MisterForkbeard

    July 12, 2022 at 1:04 pm

    @Baud: We DID, in fact. Not surprisingly.

  22. 22.

    Dangerman

    July 12, 2022 at 1:05 pm

    @Baud: California GOP? I’ve seen these creatures, but only in Museums. Well, Whacks Museums. Maybe it was a haunted house. Definitely rare.

  23. 23.

    trollhattan

    July 12, 2022 at 1:07 pm

    @Martin: I’d so do pay-per-view of a cage match between Liz C and Gym Jordan.

  24. 24.

    Immanentize

    July 12, 2022 at 1:08 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

  25. 25.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:09 pm

    76-year-old man! Yeah!

  26. 26.

    Scout211

    July 12, 2022 at 1:09 pm

    What?! Poor poor Donnie?

    ETA: Go Liz!

  27. 27.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    July 12, 2022 at 1:09 pm

    You go, Liz!

  28. 28.

    Leto

    July 12, 2022 at 1:09 pm

    One of the things one of the talking MSNBC lawyer heads was talking about a few days ago was how we needed a connection/link between Cassidy Hutchinson and what was being said in Trumpov’s inner circle. Essentially what was being said in the Oval Office. I think Cipollone’s testimony is going to be that bridge.

  29. 29.

    Martin

    July 12, 2022 at 1:10 pm

    Oh, okay. We’re going to head off the ‘childlike innocence’ line of reasoning right off the top.

  30. 30.

    trollhattan

    July 12, 2022 at 1:10 pm

    @Baud: The supermajority is key, because a mere majority in either house gives the minority party powers out of proportion to their actual count. Especially important at budget time.

    IIRC Jerry 2.0 and Gav have had it much of the time.

    We still need to fix the initiative and recall processes.

  31. 31.

    Leto

    July 12, 2022 at 1:10 pm

    @trollhattan: “Wait… wait… Liz Cheney just got a shotgun from her old man! This is looking bad for Gym!”

  32. 32.

    Immanentize

    July 12, 2022 at 1:10 pm

    I cannot watch, so please share wonderful moments with sufficient context?

  33. 33.

    piratedan

    July 12, 2022 at 1:11 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: i wouldn’t be shocked if they laid on additional meetings as the information comes in…

     

    today we find out how the RW militia groups were recruited/volunteered

    maybe later we find out who handled the logistics of said plan, who co-opted whose rally and provided room, board, transport and planning .

    then we find out who is sitting in Congress as we speak and aided and abetted this from within the confines of government

    shit, they could spend another 5 months trying to unravel this shit as they follow the money, how it was coordinated with the media and by his own party… shit at this point, determining how much logistical support he got from Putin on this wouldn’t be a shocker.

  34. 34.

    oatler

    July 12, 2022 at 1:11 pm

    “I’m Jim Lamon and if elected I will Shut Down Congress and Make Them Build the Wall”

    Not a joke, his ads are nonstop in AZ.

  35. 35.

    Immanentize

    July 12, 2022 at 1:11 pm

    @trollhattan: loser leaves Congress!

  36. 36.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:12 pm

    @Immanentize: Cheney dismissed the argument that TFG was too dewy-eyed and naive to be responsible for his actions.

  37. 37.

    Leto

    July 12, 2022 at 1:12 pm

    @Martin: it continues to work for his shitbag kids (“they’re just kids” – too many fucking journalists), might as well try it for him.

  38. 38.

    Scout211

    July 12, 2022 at 1:13 pm

    I’ve never seen Murphy before. She’s good.

  39. 39.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:13 pm

    Murphy: getting ready for 1/6, “the President called for backup.” “Be there, will be wild” tweet.

  40. 40.

    Fair Economist

    July 12, 2022 at 1:13 pm

    @Baud:

    Didn’t California turn their government around when Dems got a supermajority that prevented the GOP from mucking things up?

    Oh, absolutely. It was shockingly significant and abrupt. We went from having a major budget crisis every single year to a smooth process with consistently balanced budgets. Just like that .

  41. 41.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    July 12, 2022 at 1:14 pm

    @Immanentize: Liz C says Patsy’s testimony met their expectations

  42. 42.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 12, 2022 at 1:14 pm

    interesting name check of Scott Perry, who in my reading/viewing has been less prominent that say, Gosar and Jordan

    @Leto: she wouldn’t need a gun, I don’t think she’d even bother to take off her glasses or kick off her shoes, so she could drive a high heel into his crotch while he cried and whimpered on the mat

  43. 43.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:15 pm

    Raskin up!

  44. 44.

    Scout211

    July 12, 2022 at 1:15 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Perry was mentioned often in one of the earlier hearings.

  45. 45.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:16 pm

    Rasking talking about “the craziest meeting of the Trump presidency.” “draft executive order” for immediate mass seizure of state election machines by us military. That idea rejected. That night DJT decided to call for a “large and wild crowd” for 1/6.

  46. 46.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:17 pm

    His tweet “electrified and galvanized” his supporters

  47. 47.

    Ken

    July 12, 2022 at 1:17 pm

    @Martin: We’re going to head off the ‘childlike innocence’

    Of Trump?  I might accept “childish”, but no form of “innocence” can possibly apply.

  48. 48.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 12, 2022 at 1:17 pm

    @Leto: Stephanie Reuhle had that British documentary maker on her show last night, and one interesting detail was none of the LAC are willing to talk about 1/6, not even Fredo.

    And he refused to answer when asked if anyone from the trump camp had tried to contact him when he was subpoenaed, citing “security” as one of the reasons. Which I took to be a “yes”

  49. 49.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:18 pm

    @Ken: That was my paraphrase.

  50. 50.

    Fair Economist

    July 12, 2022 at 1:19 pm

    Damn Raskin is good.

  51. 51.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:20 pm

    Quoting Lincoln on the danger of mobs.

  52. 52.

    Baud

    July 12, 2022 at 1:20 pm

    That Lincoln guy was really smart.

  53. 53.

    Leto

    July 12, 2022 at 1:20 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I think the gun would be to simply continue the family legacy. Her dad is the shady manager whose job it is to distract the ref, trip up the other person in the corner/near the ropes, and to toss objects in for the signature moves. I’m also thinking about the old MTV claymation, Celebrity Death Match. ;)

  54. 54.

    Scout211

    July 12, 2022 at 1:20 pm

    Insurrectionists=racist mobs

  55. 55.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:21 pm

    Murphy reviewing all the legal cases they lost.

  56. 56.

    WaterGirl

    July 12, 2022 at 1:22 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: LAC?

  57. 57.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:23 pm

    Wish my neighbor with the big “TRUMP WON AND WE ALL KNOW IT” banner could watch this.

  58. 58.

    WaterGirl

    July 12, 2022 at 1:23 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Can you turn it up really loud and open your windows? :-)

  59. 59.

    Scout211

    July 12, 2022 at 1:23 pm

    Turtle congratulating President-elect Biden. Showing the tape.

  60. 60.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:24 pm

    Patsy Baloney agrees TFG lost.

  61. 61.

    R-Jud

    July 12, 2022 at 1:25 pm

    @WaterGirl: I think that means “large adult children”.

  62. 62.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:25 pm

    @WaterGirl: He’s a few streets away . . .

  63. 63.

    Scout211

    July 12, 2022 at 1:25 pm

    Cipollone on tape agrees no evidence of election fraud and should have conceded.

  64. 64.

    Leto

    July 12, 2022 at 1:26 pm

    Barr’s voice ranks right there with Trumpov’s voice as some of the most disgusting sounds ever made on this planet.

  65. 65.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:27 pm

    Meadows told Cipollone TFg would concede.

  66. 66.

    Ken

    July 12, 2022 at 1:27 pm

    @Scout211: Not quite true, we do know of some incidents where people tried to vote twice. All Trump voters, as far as I’ve heard.

  67. 67.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:27 pm

    I love Liz’s rough-hewn Wyoming log cabin.

  68. 68.

    Immanentize

    July 12, 2022 at 1:28 pm

    @Leto: It is so pinched and suggests sewer slime.

  69. 69.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:28 pm

    Ivanka impersonating a Keane painting again.

  70. 70.

    Immanentize

    July 12, 2022 at 1:29 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Did Liz come out as a Log Cabin Republican? Talk about shocking revelations!

  71. 71.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:29 pm

    @Immanentize: Yeah!

  72. 72.

    Scout211

    July 12, 2022 at 1:31 pm

    @Ken: Throughout the hearing it has been “fraud to the extent that it would have affected the outcome of the election.” My fingers don’t type that quickly. LOL

  73. 73.

    Leto

    July 12, 2022 at 1:31 pm

    @Immanentize: everything about him suggest sewer slime, so fitting.

  74. 74.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:32 pm

    Cipollone being condescending to Liz. Fucker.

  75. 75.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:35 pm

    They asked Barr to seize voting machines. He said no.

  76. 76.

    The Lodger

    July 12, 2022 at 1:35 pm

    @zhena gogolia: i heard Murphy on NPR this morning. She was focused and she wasn’t grandstanding at all. I didn’t know she was actually a member of Congress until the end of the interview.  Quiet but impressive.

  77. 77.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:35 pm

    @The Lodger: Yes, she’s great.

  78. 78.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:36 pm

    Cipollone: Sidney Powell “shouldn’t be appointed to anything.”

  79. 79.

    Scout211

    July 12, 2022 at 1:36 pm

    OMG! Sidney Powell as special counsel?

  80. 80.

    Baud

    July 12, 2022 at 1:37 pm

    @Scout211:

    She is special.

  81. 81.

    Ksmiami

    July 12, 2022 at 1:38 pm

    @Baud: yes – because putting a political party in charge that doesn’t believe in government is suicide. Don’t die- vote Dem.

  82. 82.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:38 pm

    @Baud: In the Church Lady sense.

  83. 83.

    Baud

    July 12, 2022 at 1:39 pm

    @Ksmiami:

    Don’t blackmail me with my own mortality.

  84. 84.

    Leto

    July 12, 2022 at 1:39 pm

    There’s a reason we want you to verbalize why seizing voting machines is bad: to get you on the record saying that, as well as you stating that you told the President that. Also to make sure that your testimony matches up with other people’s testimony.

  85. 85.

    Baud

    July 12, 2022 at 1:39 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    In the different Church Lady sense

     

    J/k

  86. 86.

    Gin & Tonic

    July 12, 2022 at 1:40 pm

    Bernie Fucking Kerik!

  87. 87.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:40 pm

    Bernie Kerik makes a cameo appearance.

  88. 88.

    Baud

    July 12, 2022 at 1:41 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

     

    @zhena gogolia:

     

    I had to go out. What did he do?

  89. 89.

    UncleEbeneezer

    July 12, 2022 at 1:41 pm

    1/6 Related.  I usually like Marcy Wheeler, but this was just silly/ignorant:

    “Protip for those prepping to learn about the Oath Keeper and Proud Boy militia conspiracies that DOJ has been pursuing since Jan 6: Two of the indicted Oath Keepers are Black, Tarrio is afro-Cuban, and there are several other indicted Hispanics.  Which is to say — calling them “white supremacist” militias isn’t going to get you very far.”

    The Oathkeepers and Proud Boys etc. are absolutely White Supremacist/Nationalist, they just don’t say it out loud.  Some pull quotes from Racism & Identity in the Patriot Movement:

    “Most Patriot movement groups today have a “colorblind” approach, and say they are not racist. The Oath Keepers’ bylaws specifically bar open racists.(1)”

    “The origins of the Patriot movement tactics and approaches are tied up in organized racist currents. As mentioned, many of their beliefs were developed as a coherent political package by the racist Posse Comitatus. In the 1980s, one commentator described the Patriot movement as “half” racist.(5) By the 1990s militia movement, perhaps less than a quarter of members were connected to explicitly White separatist groups; Christian Identity members still held prominent positions.”

    “Nonetheless, the movement’s organizational structures and political goals remain largely the same as in the days of open racism—even though the reasoning behind the arguments has changed.”

    “While the Patriot movement does not make explicit appeals to racial purity or interests, their sidestepping of racial issues seems to result in them reproducing images and themes of an all-white America, which then resembles White nationalist visions. They base their appeals to social groups that are some of the remaining vast majority-White sections of the United States: farm operators, and what’s left of logging and mining communities, for example.”

  90. 90.

    Immanentize

    July 12, 2022 at 1:42 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Slap some sunscreen on that dome, Bernie!

  91. 91.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:42 pm

    @Baud: Said in a letter he didn’t have evidence of fraud that would overturn the election.

  92. 92.

    Ken

    July 12, 2022 at 1:42 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: It’s like an episode of the Love Boat, with all the guest stars whose careers ended twenty years before.

  93. 93.

    Baud

    July 12, 2022 at 1:43 pm

    @Ken:

    I miss Charo.

  94. 94.

    Scout211

    July 12, 2022 at 1:43 pm

    Ooh, Meadows is a hypocrite. So not news.

  95. 95.

    Baud

    July 12, 2022 at 1:43 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    Noblest thing he’s ever done.

  96. 96.

    James E Powell

    July 12, 2022 at 1:43 pm

    @Dangerman:

    Sadly, they are still around. I think the new California 41st is R+4 and it looks like my insurrection supporting Trump worshipping congress-creature will be easily re-elected.

  97. 97.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:43 pm

    @Ken: OMG, Maureen O’Hara!

  98. 98.

    Immanentize

    July 12, 2022 at 1:44 pm

    @Baud: Coochie Coochie Coo!

  99. 99.

    Leto

    July 12, 2022 at 1:44 pm

    @UncleEbeneezer: it’s like the Dave Chappelle skit with the him playing the blind racist. “Nobody has told him because he’s so effective!” The usual, “They can’t be racist because they have POC!”

  100. 100.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:44 pm

    @Baud: Not a noble context. I can’t type fast enough to explain.

  101. 101.

    Matt McIrvin

    July 12, 2022 at 1:44 pm

    @Fair Economist: Of course, if you mention California in any open public forum where they don’t delete this stuff, the thread will be full of RWNJs talking about how the place is now an uninhabitable shithole and its residents are fleeing for their lives.

    (Often with floridly racist imagery.)

  102. 102.

    Scout211

    July 12, 2022 at 1:45 pm

    Byrne now in the crazy meeting. Byrne is supposed to testify today, right?

  103. 103.

    James E Powell

    July 12, 2022 at 1:45 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    Wish my neighbor with the big “TRUMP WON AND WE ALL KNOW IT” banner could watch this.

    Would it do any good? Those people can’t be reached.

  104. 104.

    Ken

    July 12, 2022 at 1:45 pm

    @UncleEbeneezer:  Ehrenarier has a long history.

  105. 105.

    Baud

    July 12, 2022 at 1:46 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    No worries.

  106. 106.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:46 pm

    Powell Drink!

  107. 107.

    Gin & Tonic

    July 12, 2022 at 1:47 pm

    Sidney Powell with a product placement.

  108. 108.

    Almost Retired

    July 12, 2022 at 1:47 pm

    Product Placement!    Sidney has a can of Dr. Pepper at her deposition!

    ETA:  Damn  it!   G&T by a few seconds!

  109. 109.

    R-Jud

    July 12, 2022 at 1:47 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Eugh, Dr. Pepper.

  110. 110.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:47 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Hahaha

  111. 111.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:48 pm

    This is fire!

  112. 112.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:49 pm

    “Every judge is corrupt? Even the ones we appointed?” Herschmann to Powell.

  113. 113.

    Fair Economist

    July 12, 2022 at 1:49 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: I’ve generally found I can win the case easily against the “California is a hellhole” people. We have lower taxes for all but the very rich, longer lifespans than any Red state, lower murder, lower rape, solid budgets – and it’s all easily provable with links. “Welcome to the 21st Century” is a good line for all this.

  114. 114.

    Scout211

    July 12, 2022 at 1:49 pm

    Those White House legal advisors were so mean to the president! (Sidney Powell).

  115. 115.

    Leto

    July 12, 2022 at 1:50 pm

    Powell showing how batshit crazy she is, in perfect pixelated form.

  116. 116.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:50 pm

    Rudy: “You’re a bunch of pussies. Excuse the expression.”

  117. 117.

    Fair Economist

    July 12, 2022 at 1:50 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Given how awful Sidney Powell is, does this count as product misplacement?

  118. 118.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 12, 2022 at 1:51 pm

    I’m listening but it sounds like this video going back and forth between Nutbags Powell and Patsy Baloney sounds like it was really well put together

  119. 119.

    M31

    July 12, 2022 at 1:51 pm

    Dr. Pepper cease and desist order being written now

  120. 120.

    Scout211

    July 12, 2022 at 1:51 pm

    Rudy seems under the weather. Drunk again?

  121. 121.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:52 pm

    Cassidy: “The West Wing is UNHINGED”

  122. 122.

    WaterGirl

    July 12, 2022 at 1:52 pm

    @R-Jud: Ah, thank you.  Not something well known!

  123. 123.

    Immanentize

    July 12, 2022 at 1:52 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Herschmann is a bit of a bad ass, isn’t he?

  124. 124.

    Matt McIrvin

    July 12, 2022 at 1:52 pm

    @Fair Economist: I know the main reason I don’t live there (aside from contingencies of my life story) is just that it’s hella expensive in the places where I’d want to be, which I suspect is the main reason its population growth has leveled off.

  125. 125.

    Gin & Tonic

    July 12, 2022 at 1:52 pm

    @Almost Retired: See, if you were actually retired instead of almost retired, you’d be more competitive.

  126. 126.

    Leto

    July 12, 2022 at 1:52 pm

    Nosferatu-liani displaying his verbal acumen. I’m still waiting for the Army to do the correct thing and recall Flynn, strip him of his rank, and maybe finally demonstrate what is supposed to happen to traitorous shitbags.

  127. 127.

    The Moar You Know

    July 12, 2022 at 1:53 pm

    Didn’t California turn their government around when Dems got a supermajority that prevented the GOP from mucking things up?

    @Baud: I’m sure others replied to this, but I wanted to pile on:  that is the ONLY thing that stopped the GOP from throwing sand into every mechanism of state government that they could, and if we ever lose that supermajority, they will go right back to it.  I would LOVE an opposition party that would act in good faith when they are not in power.  That is not today’s GOP, not anywhere in this nation.

    It is not an accident that within 2 years of Dems getting the CA supermajority that we went from fiscal basket case to debt-free and have stayed that way ever since, to the point where CA is having to plan what to spend our now enormous surpluses on.

  128. 128.

    Old School

    July 12, 2022 at 1:53 pm

    @Fair Economist:

    Given how awful Sidney Powell is, does this count as product misplacement?

    The folks at Diet Dr. Pepper are probably having an emergency meeting at the moment.

  129. 129.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:53 pm

    @Immanentize: Love him

  130. 130.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 12, 2022 at 1:54 pm

    Sidney Powell has the ultimate punchable face.

  131. 131.

    Leto

    July 12, 2022 at 1:55 pm

    Cipollone saying that Powell wasn’t appointed because the paperwork wasn’t done. Considering how they didn’t do the proper paperwork for anything, hell, she might have been appointed and just nobody understood that.

  132. 132.

    James E Powell

    July 12, 2022 at 1:56 pm

    @Matt McIrvin:

    Of course, if you mention California in any open public forum where they don’t delete this stuff, the thread will be full of RWNJs talking about how the place is now an uninhabitable shithole and its residents are fleeing for their lives.

    Illustrative anecdote: Back in my beloved home state of Ohio visiting my brother. Casual conversation with a contractor guy who is working on his house. I’m introduced as “my brother from California.”

    Contractor: (loud & scornful)

    California! Isn’t everybody moving out of California?

    Me: (spider sense activated, retreating to neutral ground)

    I do love the weather.

    Contractor: (still kind of loud)

    Well they have pretty good weather in Venezuela too!

    It wasn’t until after he left that I realized what he was trying to say. What the fuck is wrong with these people?

  133. 133.

    Citizen Alan

    July 12, 2022 at 1:56 pm

    @Leto:  They would hardly be the first people of color who might try to earn a place for themselves in elite society by becoming tireless advocates for white supremacy.  Clarence Thomas, Dean Baquet,  Candice Owens, Geralda Rivera, and Diamond and Silk (or whoever they are) have been showing how it’s done for decades, albeit less violently.

  134. 134.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:56 pm

    “Be there, will be wild!”

  135. 135.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 1:58 pm

    Ugh, Alex Jones.

  136. 136.

    James E Powell

    July 12, 2022 at 1:58 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    Sidney Powell has the ultimate punchable face.

    (Jared Kushner’s face has entered the chat)

  137. 137.

    Immanentize

    July 12, 2022 at 1:58 pm

    @James E Powell: You could have replied, “Isn’t everyone just dying in Ohio?” and seen where that went?

  138. 138.

    Betty Cracker

    July 12, 2022 at 1:58 pm

    Say what you want about Patsy Baloney, but he is one dapper dude. He knows it too. In just about every clip, he adjusts his crisp, immaculate white cuffs and straightens his elegant tie. 

  139. 139.

    M31

    July 12, 2022 at 1:59 pm

    hope there’s some Ginni Thomas info coming up

  140. 140.

    Soprano2

    July 12, 2022 at 1:59 pm

    @The Moar You Know: I wondered what happened to the perennial stories about what a cluster the CA budget is. I notice that the press never talks about how well-managed it is anymore. I guess that’s boring.

  141. 141.

    Old School

    July 12, 2022 at 2:00 pm

    “It’s going to be a Red Wedding.”

    Dude, spoilers.

  142. 142.

    Mike in NC

    July 12, 2022 at 2:01 pm

    Why isn’t the maniac Alex Jones behind bars?

  143. 143.

    West of the Rockies

    July 12, 2022 at 2:01 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    How does she manage to look so stupid and smug at the same time?  She has all the style of a 1978 sofa still in use in Aunt Betsy’s den.

  144. 144.

    Leto

    July 12, 2022 at 2:01 pm

    @zhena gogolia: speaking of punchable faces…

  145. 145.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    July 12, 2022 at 2:01 pm

    Holy cow. Former twitter employee with disguised voice testifies that twitter took no action after TFG told Proud Boys to stand by

  146. 146.

    Scout211

    July 12, 2022 at 2:03 pm

    Ooh. Twitter worker in disguise talking about the platform being used for inciting violence by Trump. A mob being organized and gathering their weaponry.

  147. 147.

    Leto

    July 12, 2022 at 2:04 pm

    @Citizen Alan: oh, absolutely. And as Uncle is saying, it’s absolutely silly/dumb to try to say that calling that out might look bad. White people will ofc glomp onto that framing but it’s bad. Again, example infinity of our press failing us.

  148. 148.

    Ruckus

    July 12, 2022 at 2:04 pm

    @Dangerman:

    Go East young man!

    CA is a big state and a lot of the rural areas are pretty damn redish.

    Devin Cow Nunes was one of ours. Raygun was gov. We have Orange county, which I believe voted dem for the first time not long ago.

    The heavily populated areas far out vote the rural so we look more dem than we otherwise would.

  149. 149.

    WaterGirl

    July 12, 2022 at 2:04 pm

    Jason Miller is the wife beater, right?

  150. 150.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 2:05 pm

    Jamie said “Fucking A”!

  151. 151.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 2:05 pm

    @WaterGirl: I think deadbeat dad.

  152. 152.

    cain

    July 12, 2022 at 2:07 pm

    So kill all the democrats, man, women, and children? Fuck you. Every American should be alarmed by such rhetoric.

  153. 153.

    cain

    July 12, 2022 at 2:07 pm

    @WaterGirl: Also stealer of money.. dude was completely in over his head.

  154. 154.

    Almost Retired

    July 12, 2022 at 2:07 pm

    Nice!   The extremist wearing the Reagan/Bush T-shirt is drawing a nice visual line for us from the Reagan years to where we are today.

  155. 155.

    Baud

    July 12, 2022 at 2:07 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Ha. I thought I wish I had a suit that fit that well.

  156. 156.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 2:08 pm

    @Almost Retired: Love that.

  157. 157.

    Soprano2

    July 12, 2022 at 2:08 pm

    @cain: Definitely fascist rhetoric, that’s alarming!

  158. 158.

    Ken

    July 12, 2022 at 2:08 pm

    @Ruckus: Devin Cow Nunes was one of ours.

    (Lecter voice) Not any more.

    Didn’t something awful happen to the Trump company that he is managing? Like, a dozen lawsuits and a grand jury or two?

  159. 159.

    Soprano2

    July 12, 2022 at 2:09 pm

    Good, I need a pee break!!!

  160. 160.

    cain

    July 12, 2022 at 2:10 pm

    @Soprano2: They were ready to kill all of us. Maybe the NYT can find a diner where they can ask questions of Trump supporters about what they felt about such rhetoric.

    We should be asking all these Trump supporters where they stand.

    ETA what really alarmed me is that even children were considered the enemy.

  161. 161.

    Fair Economist

    July 12, 2022 at 2:10 pm

    @James E Powell:

    Contractor: (loud & scornful)

    California! Isn’t everybody moving out of California?

    Oh I LOVE sparring with people like that! I start talking about how people in California live longer and make more money and are better protected from crime. Then I mention the awesome weather, great economy, and great amenities. Then I mention how it all got so awesome *after* we thumped the Republicans out of state government.

    Inevitably they shut up and change the subject.

  162. 162.

    Paul in KY

    July 12, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    @Leto: I will be so disappointed if that does not happen. He’s a fucking traitor who’s probably a Russian spy as well.

  163. 163.

    Kent

    July 12, 2022 at 2:12 pm

    Just tuned in and missed most of it, but the MSNBC people are acting pretty stunned.

  164. 164.

    Fair Economist

    July 12, 2022 at 2:12 pm

    “Never heard anything like this” according to the talking heads on MSNBC. Wow.

  165. 165.

    Baud

    July 12, 2022 at 2:13 pm

    I feel like this hearing is distracting us from the controversy about Biden’s age.

  166. 166.

    Baud

    July 12, 2022 at 2:13 pm

    @Fair Economist:

    We SUCK at promoting ourselves.

  167. 167.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 2:14 pm

    @Soprano2: Me too!

  168. 168.

    citizen dave

    July 12, 2022 at 2:15 pm

    What should I wear for my insurrection deposition?  I know, my Saint Ronnie 1984 t shirt.  That’ll show ’em.

    (Guess I need to keep holding onto my Clash Combat Rock tour t shirt on case I’m ever deposed.

  169. 169.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    July 12, 2022 at 2:15 pm

    @Kent: Just tuned in and missed most of it, but the MSNBC people are acting pretty stunned.

    Watching the Committee’s own YouTube feed, so not seeing any news reaction. But I’m feeling pretty stunned myself.

    All through these hearings, before each revelation I keep thinking I’ve reached peak “holy shit”.

    But I keep finding new levels of “holy shit”.

    I’m just sitting here, all by myself in front of the screen, saying that phrase over and over and over.

  170. 170.

    frosty

    July 12, 2022 at 2:15 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: A transcontinental railroad and land grant colleges, for example. Both occurred when the southern states had seceded and couldn’t block anything.

  171. 171.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 2:16 pm

    @Baud: Hahaha!

    This one is as fabulous as the Hutchinson one, maybe even better, as the cast of characters is larger. Powell is a great TV character, sippin’ on her Dr. Pepper.

  172. 172.

    debbie

    July 12, 2022 at 2:17 pm

    That White House was insane!

  173. 173.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 12, 2022 at 2:17 pm

    Michael Steele: “I need a drink.”

  174. 174.

    citizen dave

    July 12, 2022 at 2:18 pm

    Subject to check but I believe (might have learned here) that there were more trump voters in Cali than in any other state, but large population etc.

    Can’t help but always thinking that the stupid EC is what facilitates so much bullshit.  We needed  majority votes WIN Presidency 25 years ago.  Now we need it to survive as a functioning nation.

  175. 175.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 12, 2022 at 2:18 pm

    @Baud: It is difficult when we have to fight the Republicans, the mainstream media and our supposed allies on the left

    An example

  176. 176.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 2:19 pm

    I like the picture of Meadows escorting Rudy “off-campus” to make sure he wouldn’t sneak back in and get in bed with TFG.

  177. 177.

    Scout211

    July 12, 2022 at 2:19 pm

    LC’s opening statement about Trump advisors at first testifying that nothing happened and denying everything and then changing it to say Trump was forced to do it by outsiders was a very good opening. So far, the hearing shows over and over again how Trump had a plan to stay in office and only listened to people who told him they could help him do that.

  178. 178.

    Jeffro

    July 12, 2022 at 2:19 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    @Gin & Tonic: I saw that and was like, “Dr. Pepper HQ is holding its breath and hoping folks didn’t notice, or if they did notice, won’t hold it against the brand”

    (I do like their goofy ‘Fanville’ ads  =)

     

    @Fair Economist: yes indeedy!

  179. 179.

    Jeffro

    July 12, 2022 at 2:20 pm

    @Old School: great minds and all that   =P

  180. 180.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    July 12, 2022 at 2:20 pm

    @Dangerman: According to a friend in Phoenix, the California GOP have all been moving there.

  181. 181.

    Baud

    July 12, 2022 at 2:20 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Difficult, but rewarding!

  182. 182.

    Scout211

    July 12, 2022 at 2:21 pm

    @zhena gogolia: her accent is just perfect for a villain in any Southern drama.

  183. 183.

    Kent

    July 12, 2022 at 2:22 pm

    @frosty:@MisterForkbeard: A transcontinental railroad and land grant colleges, for example. Both occurred when the southern states had seceded and couldn’t block anything.

    Yes.  Honestly it isn’t so much Republicans as the South that drags us down.  Take Florida and Texas out of the picture an all the states inbetween and this country’s politics looks a LOT different.  It doesn’t matter whether they were Republicans or Democrats, they have been universally revanchist, undemocratic, and horrible since day one.

  184. 184.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 2:22 pm

    @Scout211: I’d like video of her head-to-head with Herschmann!

  185. 185.

    Leto

    July 12, 2022 at 2:22 pm

    Glad the one Oath Dufus dressed in his finest Canadian tux.

  186. 186.

    James E Powell

    July 12, 2022 at 2:23 pm

    @Fair Economist:

    Oh I LOVE sparring with people like that!

    I understood it was one of those situations where I was supposed to nod & smile, so I did. The tension, then relief on my brother’s face was priceless.

  187. 187.

    Leto

    July 12, 2022 at 2:23 pm

    @citizen dave: there’s more conservatives in Orange County than in 5-6 combined. You can point that out, and how that skews Congress, and people will still dismiss it. It’s the same as when Republicans will throw up maps of the country, pointing to all the “red areas” and how they think that translates into votes/representation of the countries “beliefs”. And as we always say: land doesn’t vote.

  188. 188.

    Old School

    July 12, 2022 at 2:24 pm

    @Jeffro:  Lock up Justin Guarini!

  189. 189.

    Delk

    July 12, 2022 at 2:24 pm

    Former Oath Keeper, current Rebel.

  190. 190.

    piratedan

    July 12, 2022 at 2:24 pm

    still having issues with pundits who are not busy confirming my personal biases regarding if the committee has “proven” enough guilt yet during these breaks… has she not been watching the SCOTUS rulings of late, apparently proof needs to be notarized at the time of guilt.

  191. 191.

    Scout211

    July 12, 2022 at 2:24 pm

    @zhena gogolia: rough translation: “Those men were just despicable to the President! Well I nevah!!

  192. 192.

    Geminid

    July 12, 2022 at 2:24 pm

    @The Lodger: Stephanie Murphy has been in Congress since 2017, but like many other capable Democratic Representatives she has not gotten much notice outside her own district. It’s good that she’s gotten a turn on the national stage. Perhaps anticipating being gerrymandered out of her Florida district, Murphy along with fellow J6 Committee member Adam Kinzinger is retiring after this term.

    Murphy was born in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam. Her family fled Vietnam on a small boat when she was one year old. They ended up in northern Virginia, and Murphy attended William and Mary as well as Georgetown before moving to Florida. She beat Republican John Mica in 2016 to win her seat in Congress. Although cross-affiliated with the New Democratic Coalition, Murphy chairs the 19-member Blue Dog Caucus.

  193. 193.

    narya

    July 12, 2022 at 2:25 pm

    I’m recording for later viewing, but following along here as i can. Not only did I get my more-normie-than-me Friend to watch, but he got his sister to watch, apparently. (His family range from garden-variety republicans, i think, to RWNJs.) He was completely turned off of politics by the Iran-Contra hearings–all that bad behavior, with no consequences–but I’ve been trying to tell him that it’s important to get this on the record, even if we don’t get what we want out of it.

  194. 194.

    Baud

    July 12, 2022 at 2:28 pm

    @narya:

  195. 195.

    SFBayAreaGal

    July 12, 2022 at 2:29 pm

    Watching CBS News and one of the commentators said Republican party was guilty of standing by, leading up to January 6th.

  196. 196.

    Almost Retired

    July 12, 2022 at 2:29 pm

    @piratedan:   Right!?  I’m like, thanks Joyce for the reality check, but let me have my fucking moment!

  197. 197.

    Ken

    July 12, 2022 at 2:29 pm

    @Fair Economist: “Never heard anything like this” according to the talking heads on MSNBC.

    I can’t help but think that is part of the problem. What sources of information do the talking heads rely on, that they’ve not had even a hint of this?

  198. 198.

    trollhattan

    July 12, 2022 at 2:29 pm

    @James E Powell:

    Can I get a Ted Cruz and a Rand Paul up in here?

  199. 199.

    Scout211

    July 12, 2022 at 2:30 pm

    C-span says the committee is working out some technical issues and the recess may be longer than usual.

  200. 200.

    The Lodger

    July 12, 2022 at 2:30 pm

    @Geminid: Even if she won’t stay in Congress, the Florida Ds should keep her working, Blue Dog or not.

  201. 201.

    Ken

    July 12, 2022 at 2:30 pm

    @James E Powell: I understood it was one of those situations where I was supposed to nod & smile, so I did. The tension, then relief on my brother’s face was priceless.

    “Bro, he’s halfway through redoing my roof, and I have neither time nor money to find a new contractor….”

  202. 202.

    PPCLI

    July 12, 2022 at 2:30 pm

     

    @Scout211:

    Patrick Byrne. Now where have I heard that name before….Hmmm….

    There’s a little noticed sign of how many metric tonnes of batshit crazy are being revealed right now. In previous eras, it would have been a big deal — top story for weeks — if the president were being advised by a guy who had an extended intimate relationship with a CONVICTED RUSSIAN SPY. Now it doesn’t even get mentioned. Too much other stuff that is even crazier.

  203. 203.

    Fair Economist

    July 12, 2022 at 2:31 pm

    I love the bank robber analogy! “Just because you think the bank owes you money, you can’t rob the bank!”

  204. 204.

    Scout211

    July 12, 2022 at 2:31 pm

    Do we need a new thread for part 2?

  205. 205.

    trollhattan

    July 12, 2022 at 2:31 pm

    @Scout211: Bring my fainting couch. Wait, make that my feinting couch. Ah have tha vapahs.

  206. 206.

    JaySinWA

    July 12, 2022 at 2:32 pm

    @Jeffro: Dr. Pepper, so misunderstood. Sidney’s living this ad.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA_NnXyDDLk

    ETA Ad shows a woman seduced by villain with DP

  207. 207.

    Scout211

    July 12, 2022 at 2:32 pm

    @Fair Economist: I used that for Steve Bannon. Just because you offered to pay back the money the night before your trial doesn’t mean you never committed the robbery. LOL

  208. 208.

    Ken

    July 12, 2022 at 2:33 pm

    @Scout211: C-span says the committee is working out some technical issues

    Shock collar doesn’t fit around Bannon’s neck?

  209. 209.

    WaterGirl

    July 12, 2022 at 2:34 pm

    Firing squads.  Jesus.

  210. 210.

    misterpuff

    July 12, 2022 at 2:35 pm

    @Almost Retired: Is she a Texan? They are addicted to that stuff. (I used to be.)

  211. 211.

    Baud

    July 12, 2022 at 2:36 pm

    TIL armed militia arrange insurrections the way people arrange Tinder dates.

  212. 212.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 2:36 pm

    Jamie doesn’t bleep the expletives.

  213. 213.

    Almost Retired

    July 12, 2022 at 2:36 pm

    @misterpuff:  North Carolina.  I don’t know if that’s a “soda,” “pop” or “coke” state.

  214. 214.

    Fair Economist

    July 12, 2022 at 2:36 pm

    @The Lodger: Apparently Stephanie Murphy has been harassed out of office. I’m assuming she feels she can’t count on crooked Florida to protect her.

    https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1474996603098329090

  215. 215.

    Eunicecycle

    July 12, 2022 at 2:37 pm

    @misterpuff: my daughter in law’s grandfather is addicted to it, the full sugar type. His wife finally cut him off and he soon lost 20 pounds.

  216. 216.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 2:37 pm

    Stitching up Flynn and Stone.

  217. 217.

    piratedan

    July 12, 2022 at 2:37 pm

    General Flynn, your shoe has dropped

  218. 218.

    Fair Economist

    July 12, 2022 at 2:38 pm

    Holy f***, nailed Flynn as planning insurrection, including locations of police stations.

    Stone too!

  219. 219.

    Paul in KY

    July 12, 2022 at 2:38 pm

    I like the Descendents. Have seen a fine set of theirs at Riotfest. Do not like it that some tattooed up loser is wearing a Milo shirt.

    Assume & hope they don’t like it either.

  220. 220.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    July 12, 2022 at 2:38 pm

    Roger Stone is going to go through some things

  221. 221.

    WaterGirl

    July 12, 2022 at 2:39 pm

    Thread for Day 7, part 2 is up.

  222. 222.

    Scout211

    July 12, 2022 at 2:39 pm

    New thread for part 2 up.

  223. 223.

    CaseyL

    July 12, 2022 at 2:40 pm

    Stone and Flynn were both recipients of pardons from Trump.  How encompassing were those pardons?

  224. 224.

    Betty Cracker

    July 12, 2022 at 2:40 pm

    Committee gave a shout-out to Kelly Meggs, an Oaf Keeper who used to live in a town near me. He lives in the DC jail now. Ha!

  225. 225.

    Fair Economist

    July 12, 2022 at 2:40 pm

    “Oathbreakers, do your ****ing job!”

    Which I assume is – break oaths?

    Explains so much.

  226. 226.

    Gravenstone

    July 12, 2022 at 2:40 pm

    @Immanentize: Probably best not to unduly aggravate MAGAts with access to nailguns…

  227. 227.

    Elizabelle

    July 12, 2022 at 2:41 pm

    New thread up

  228. 228.

    Kent

    July 12, 2022 at 2:42 pm

    @CaseyL:Stone and Flynn were both recipients of pardons from Trump.  How encompassing were those pardons?

    No idea.  But being pardoned means you absolutely CANNOT take the 5th if subpoenaed to testify.

  229. 229.

    MisterForkbeard

    July 12, 2022 at 2:42 pm

    @Fair Economist: Who said that? Can’t watch, so… :(

  230. 230.

    Steve in the ATL

    July 12, 2022 at 2:44 pm

    @Geminid:

     

    They ended up in northern Virginia, and Murphy attended William and Mary as well as Georgetown before moving to Florida.

    A great story with a tragic ending!

  231. 231.

    UncleEbeneezer

    July 12, 2022 at 2:48 pm

    @Matt McIrvin:

    UC Studies: Contrary to popular belief, residents are not fleeing CA

    Despite California losing a congressional seat for the first time in history due to slow population growth and some high-profile technology companies and billionaires leaving the state, there is no evidence of an abnormal increase in residents planning to move out of the state, according to the results of a new survey released today (July 7) by the University of California. This research is part of a larger, multi-institution research project led by UC to assess whether there is in fact a “Cal exodus.”

    Key findings include:

    • The majority of Californians still believe in the “California Dream.”
    • Residents are moving out of state, but not at unusual rates.
    • There is no evidence of “millionaire flight” from California.
    • California’s economy attracts as much venture capital as all other states combined.

  232. 232.

    zhena gogolia

    July 12, 2022 at 2:49 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: Some rightwingers.

  233. 233.

    Geminid

    July 12, 2022 at 3:00 pm

     

     

    @CaseyL: Stone’s pardon telated to his convictions consequent to the Muellar investigation. His stonewalling was the main reason Muellar’s team could not prove the connection between Trump and the Russians. Trump’s pardon of him did not absolve Stone of future crimes.

  234. 234.

    Fair Economist

    July 12, 2022 at 3:03 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: It was some insurrectionist talking to police from a street video.

  235. 235.

    TheTruffle

    July 12, 2022 at 3:06 pm

    This is the first time I have heard Alex Jones’ speaking voice. Gah. How can anyone listen to him speak?

  236. 236.

    TheTruffle

    July 12, 2022 at 3:10 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: They say the same shit about New York. Having lived here most of my life, I can confirm New York is a wonderful state. Yes, we have problems, but it irks me that people rag on the state.

  237. 237.

    Geminid

    July 12, 2022 at 3:14 pm

    @UncleEbeneezer: California is still reaping the rewards of that state’s investment higher education since the middle of the last century. Jerry Brown’s father Pat Brown helped get the ball rolling when he was governor.

  238. 238.

    catclub

    July 12, 2022 at 3:37 pm

    @UncleEbeneezer: ​
     California is so unpopular 40 Million people live there.

  239. 239.

    West of the Rockies

    July 12, 2022 at 3:51 pm

    @Delk:

    “Splitter!”

  240. 240.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 12, 2022 at 4:51 pm

    @catclub: Nobody goes there anymore, cause demand for housing has driven prices through the roof

    doesn’t roll of the tongue like Yogi’s original line

  241. 241.

    sab

    July 12, 2022 at 6:30 pm

    @WaterGirl: Naw, he’s the one who had an affair with a fellow staffer while his wife was pregmant, and allegedly (but probably didn’t) slip the pregnant-with-his-child staffer an abortifacient disguised in a smoothy. She had the kid and he initially denied paternity to avoid child support.

  242. 242.

    WaterGirl

    July 12, 2022 at 7:54 pm

    @sab: they are all such charmers.

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