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You are here: Home / Site Maintenance / Here’s Where Things Stand With the Site

Here’s Where Things Stand With the Site

by WaterGirl|  July 21, 20227:10 pm| 60 Comments

This post is in: Site Maintenance

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The triple merge has happened.

There are a lot of things to be fixed.  Cursory check shows we have no media images before 2008.  We have 575 posts that don’t have the author.  All the draft posts show as published in 1970.  Etc.  I’m sure I will find many more things that aren’t quite right.

So here’s what we’re gonna do.

We are going to use the site as usual tonight and give the site developers / site hosts 2 options.

We can lose everything we do tonight (posts, comments, images etc) and go back to new-old Balloon Juice tomorrow, and we go through this whole process again at a later date, with the bugs worked out.

OR

We start using this as the mother ship, with everything imperfectly merged, and they agree to continue to do the cleanup so that we have everything back.  To be completed within one month maximum.  This will mean occasional downtime while they import media library etc.

So for now, this is Balloon Juice.  We’ll know more tomorrow!

Update: all in all, merging the 3 sites was a massively complex job, and kudos for them for what they have accomplished.

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  1. 1.

    mali muso

    July 21, 2022 at 7:12 pm

    Tap, tap, tap

    is this thing on?

  2. 2.

    H.E.Wolf

    July 21, 2022 at 7:12 pm

    Grateful thanks are in order, either way!​
     

    ETA: *AND* y’all got things up and running in time for the Jan 6 Committee hearings – now that is true excellence! :-)

  3. 3.

    bk

    July 21, 2022 at 7:14 pm

    A few minutes ago I was asked to log in, and I was told that neither my user name nor my email was recognized. Both of which show up below.

  4. 4.

    H.E.Wolf

    July 21, 2022 at 7:14 pm

    [comment deleted; not needed]

  5. 5.

    WaterGirl

    July 21, 2022 at 7:15 pm

    We’re back baby, mostly.  Sort of.

  6. 6.

    Grumpy Old Railroader

    July 21, 2022 at 7:16 pm

    Every solution creates new problems. I’m fine with whichever choice is made. If the new site has lost some hair and is now a little balder, that’s okay, it happens to all of us.

  7. 7.

    emrys

    July 21, 2022 at 7:16 pm

    Good to be back.

  8. 8.

    hw3

    July 21, 2022 at 7:17 pm

    Kudos to the Site Team!

    Thanks for all the hard work.

  9. 9.

    bbleh

    July 21, 2022 at 7:19 pm

    Definitely need some sort of death-rebirth ceremony.  Probably should involve, just off the top of my head, fire, mead, nudity, dogs and cats, maybe moonshine, and some kind of ceremonial sacrifice of electronic hardware.

  10. 10.

    Mike in NC

    July 21, 2022 at 7:19 pm

    Looks like we need to have a User ID and Password to read this site now. How do I get them???

  11. 11.

    Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA)

    July 21, 2022 at 7:19 pm

    Thank you!

  12. 12.

    Fair Economist

    July 21, 2022 at 7:19 pm

    Thanks again.

    Since this is likely to be a very hot commenting day, my inclination is “keep today, fix what’s possible, and give up on the rest.” 575 lost authorships, for example, is chump change – how many million posts do we have?

  13. 13.

    Argiope

    July 21, 2022 at 7:20 pm

    @bbleh: definitely in, but are we doing this on zoom or a meet up?

  14. 14.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 21, 2022 at 7:22 pm

    Most likely a Firefox thing that’s out of our hands, but…

    Firefox Can’t Open This Page (window under Balloon Juice for Ukraine)

    To protect your security, secure.actblue.com will not allow Firefox to display the page if another site has embedded it. To see this page, you need to open it in a new window.

    Using Firefox 102.0.1 on Windows 7 (32-bit)

  15. 15.

    CaseyL

    July 21, 2022 at 7:24 pm

    You (and whoever else is on the team) did GREAT.

    Please ignore my email about the login.

  16. 16.

    Anotherlurker

    July 21, 2022 at 7:24 pm

    You guys rock! Thanks for all your hard work on this wonderful community.

  17. 17.

    Tony Jay

    July 21, 2022 at 7:25 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Just disregard those E-mails I sent you demanding my money back, I stumbled upon the one easy trick to get back here and all is well.

  18. 18.

    Yutsano

    July 21, 2022 at 7:26 pm

    I vote for option B. Even though this all happened while I was at work.

  19. 19.

    Tony Jay

    July 21, 2022 at 7:27 pm

    I wonder if I can break this shiny new build with a 20,000 word rant?

    Nah.

  20. 20.

    JaneE

    July 21, 2022 at 7:28 pm

    Considering the task, you did great.  Let’s hope that we can fix going forward and not back up and start over later.

  21. 21.

    Spanky

    July 21, 2022 at 7:29 pm

    WG, you can ignore my email about the login page.

    And a hearty THANKS to you and everyone who worked on it

    ETA (because why not test the edit) my email to wg went out just a few minutes before everything turned on.

  22. 22.

    Baud

    July 21, 2022 at 7:31 pm

    👍

  23. 23.

    MagdaInBlack

    July 21, 2022 at 7:32 pm

    Well, this is a relief, cause I had no effin clue what my non-existent password was.

  24. 24.

    JaySinWA

    July 21, 2022 at 7:33 pm

    There are a lot of posts both old and newish that are attributed to team @ bizbudding.com

    This last Silverman post on Ukraine for example https://balloon-juice.com/2022/07/21/war-for-ukraine-day-147-first-lady-zelenska-speaks-to-members-of-congress-ukraine-continues-to-counter-strike-in-kherson/

    ETA I first noticed by going back to ancient posts to see how they looked. Many of those are dated to  Jan 1,1970. Are those the draft posts? I wouldn’t think I would see drafts

    ETA 2 For example got to the top of the page and click on open threads, click on the last numbered page. All dated Jan 1 and use the team email as the poster. Looking at dates in the tweets they only go back to July 202

    ETA 3 Not a complaint, just noting that things look wonkier than I think you described.

  25. 25.

    Albatrossity

    July 21, 2022 at 7:35 pm

    Kudos to all, and mostly to WG for keeping this ship afloat!

    I can report that the links to posts on BJ from my picture portfolio site (available by clicking on my nym here) are now functional again. Progress!

    And now we’re off to watch the show!

  26. 26.

    Sister Golden Bear

    July 21, 2022 at 7:35 pm

    Woot! Thank you!

    As far as the oopsies, we told Cole the willow was too close to the server.

  27. 27.

    different-church-lady

    July 21, 2022 at 7:39 pm

    We have 575 posts that don’t have the author.

    Those are mine.

  28. 28.

    WaterGirl

    July 21, 2022 at 7:40 pm

    @Mike in NC:

    While i was testing the merged server, we made it so that only front-pagers (who have WordPress logins) could get in.

    Once I determined where things stood then I opened it up to everyone without a login and password.

  29. 29.

    WaterGirl

    July 21, 2022 at 7:41 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Yeah, I have to clean up stuff in the sidebar and in the footer.

    I figured it was more important to let everyone in than to do the tidying up right away.

  30. 30.

    different-church-lady

    July 21, 2022 at 7:41 pm

    No big deal, but I notice recent comments is missing from the sidebar.

  31. 31.

    WaterGirl

    July 21, 2022 at 7:43 pm

    @JaySinWA: I am well aware.  As I said up top:

    We have 575 posts that don’t have the author.

  32. 32.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 21, 2022 at 7:44 pm

    Any opinions I have on the technicals of this site are less useful than those of my cat, so whatever the big brains decide is just fine.

  33. 33.

    SpaceUnit

    July 21, 2022 at 7:45 pm

    I thought the new model would have cupholders.

  34. 34.

    WaterGirl

    July 21, 2022 at 7:45 pm

    @JaySinWA: No, that’s exactly what I described. :-)

    I had maybe 30 minutes to check things out and make a decision about what to do about it.  I will still do the methodical check I had intended, but it will be tomorrow and not today.

    I thought the most important thing was to get people back on BJ.

  35. 35.

    YY_Sima Qian

    July 21, 2022 at 7:46 pm

    @WaterGirl: Thank you for your incredible efforts!

  36. 36.

    JaySinWA

    July 21, 2022 at 7:47 pm

    @WaterGirl: I got that, I just expected them to be from the older posts. So as you said you  merged the new stuff into the old BJ and the newly merged stuff is having issues.

  37. 37.

    Anonymous At Work

    July 21, 2022 at 7:52 pm

    Seriously, how hard could it have been to lead off with “IT’S ALIVE! IT’S ALIVE!!!”?

  38. 38.

    Amir Khalid

    July 21, 2022 at 7:52 pm

    @Tony Jay:

    Go on and do it, you know you want to.

  39. 39.

    scav

    July 21, 2022 at 7:56 pm

    Congrats, Yea, & Thanks, in any and all order(s) and with sufficient exclamation marks.

  40. 40.

    Repatriated

    July 21, 2022 at 8:00 pm

    Glad you’re back.  Thank you.

  41. 41.

    WaterGirl

    July 21, 2022 at 8:00 pm

    I am just answering all the email messages with a copy & paste explanation.  Not meaning to be unfriendly, there were just a ton of messages and I am just trying to get the word out.

  42. 42.

    different-church-lady

    July 21, 2022 at 8:00 pm

    We can lose everything we do tonight (posts, comments, images etc) and go back to new-old Balloon Juice tomorrow, and we go through this whole process again at a later date, with the bugs worked out.

    Then you’d have four sites to merge.

  43. 43.

    different-church-lady

    July 21, 2022 at 8:02 pm

    @WaterGirl: ​
     Good coding is hard to find
    Good coding is hard to find
    Cole got lucky, babe…
    Cole got lucky, babe
    When he found you.

  44. 44.

    WaterGirl

    July 21, 2022 at 8:04 pm

    @different-church-lady: Nope, not 4 sites to merge.  That’s why I wrote this:

    We can lose everything we do tonight (posts, comments, images etc)

  45. 45.

    different-church-lady

    July 21, 2022 at 8:10 pm

    @WaterGirl: Yeah, like you’d let that happen.

  46. 46.

    EmanG

    July 21, 2022 at 8:28 pm

    Just my 2 cents, but I’m basically ride or die with BJ at this point. My relationship with the site for over 15 years is, as with all things internet, constant and transitory. I don’t speak up much but I’m here, multiple times a day, damn near every day and I am so thankful for the blood, sweat and tears y’all have expended working to bring it back. It’s perfect in it’s imperfection and knowing that BJ continues, bloodied but unbowed, brings me infinite joy.

  47. 47.

    eachother

    July 21, 2022 at 8:30 pm

    Best of luck and skill restoring the BJ mission.
    Strictly in a sci-fi way, the Mother Ship blinking out is concerning.

    (This post will self destruct by morning.)
    So I will say knowing it will disappear like Secret Service phone communications, I love this place. And appreciate you all.

    May the time machine be with us.
    And this message, should it survive, be felt like I feel writing it.

  48. 48.

    The Pale Scot

    July 21, 2022 at 8:44 pm

    Awesome, I assume that all these user bells and whistles required a lot of brainwork.

  49. 49.

    Bill Arnold

    July 21, 2022 at 8:48 pm

    Very nice, thank you all.
    A few probes suggest that google has discarded its index for the previous site. (Tried one bing lookup too, same.)
    Google has a simple way (I don’t recall the details and have not tried it) to request the indexing of a site.
    (Some tech details of how the site was recovered would be appreciated if appropriate.)

  50. 50.

    Ruckus

    July 21, 2022 at 9:06 pm

    Is this old home week?

    Smells like new upholstery in here…..

    New looks like old. Not too shabby….

    Thanks WG and all the rest that put in all the effort.

  51. 51.

    Rob

    July 21, 2022 at 9:26 pm

    Lurker test. Back to reading about tonight’s hearing.

  52. 52.

    jackmac

    July 21, 2022 at 9:28 pm

    Congrats!!  Hell of a job!

  53. 53.

    Timill

    July 21, 2022 at 9:37 pm

    RSS feed does not appear to be feeding to Feedly. Not a biggie, but just filing a report.

  54. 54.

    N M

    July 21, 2022 at 10:21 pm

    Thanks for all the hard work Watergirl and behind-the-scenes people!

  55. 55.

    evodevo

    July 21, 2022 at 10:24 pm

    @bk: Yep…me too…

  56. 56.

    WaterGirl

    July 21, 2022 at 10:25 pm

    @Timill: I think if you give it time, Feedly will figure it out.  When we moved to new-old balloon juice it took a few hours, maybe a day, and then picked right up again.

  57. 57.

    rikyrah

    July 21, 2022 at 10:29 pm

    Yeah🤗🤗🤗

  58. 58.

    JaySinWA

    July 21, 2022 at 11:15 pm

    @Timill: Inoreader is getting the RSS feed just fine now.

  59. 59.

    sab

    July 22, 2022 at 4:29 am

    My pet pic of my late, lamented German Shepherd is back in the archives from July, 2009. Yay!

  60. 60.

    WaterGirl

    July 22, 2022 at 8:30 pm

    @WaterGirl: Feedly has it figured out for me.

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