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You are here: Home / Jan 6: Hearings / Jan 6 Hearing – Day 8 on Thursday at 8:00 pm Eastern

Jan 6 Hearing – Day 8 on Thursday at 8:00 pm Eastern

by WaterGirl|  July 21, 20227:10 pm| 266 Comments

This post is in: Jan 6: Hearings, Jan 6: Insurrection, Open Threads

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Looks like they moved the start time to 8 pm.

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266Comments

  1. 1.

    raven

    July 21, 2022 at 7:11 pm

    No Prisoners!!!

  2. 2.

    2liberal

    July 21, 2022 at 7:15 pm

    hello world

  3. 3.

    eclare

    July 21, 2022 at 7:18 pm

    We’re back!

  4. 4.

    Juju

    July 21, 2022 at 7:18 pm

    I’m glad I don’t need to remember my nonexistent password.

  5. 5.

    Dangerman

    July 21, 2022 at 7:18 pm

    Tap. Tap. Tap.

  6. 6.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 21, 2022 at 7:20 pm

    Yay! Well done, all! WG, totally ignore my email.

    ETA: Wow. I was totally expecting that first post-merge comment would go into moderation, but here we are.

  7. 7.

    Mike in NC

    July 21, 2022 at 7:21 pm

    Never had to enter a username and password before to read BJ. What gives?

  8. 8.

    O. Felix Culpa

    July 21, 2022 at 7:21 pm

    Testing.

  9. 9.

    Geminid

    July 21, 2022 at 7:22 pm

    Happy Thor’s Day everyone! Can’t wait for the J6 Commitee to drop the Hammer on the Orange Churl.

    I just realized that Adam Kinzinger and Elaine Luria, slated to take leading roles tonight, are the two military veterans on the J6 Commitee. I hear that “Dereliction of Duty” will be a theme.

  10. 10.

    CaseyL

    July 21, 2022 at 7:23 pm

    Yay!  We’re up!  And just in time, too.

    @Juju:  Yeah!  I’m like, did I ever have a password? Was it when I first started coming here? That was more than 15 years ago!  I can’t possibly remember it!

    (Poor WaterGirl; I sent her an email asking if the log in was a new thing, an old thing, or a “just ignore it” thing.)

    FANTASTIC WORK, JOHN, WATERGIRL, and EVERYONE ELSE who worked on this.

  11. 11.

    Ben Cisco

    July 21, 2022 at 7:23 pm

    Let’s GOOOOOOOOO

  12. 12.

    Ohio Mom

    July 21, 2022 at 7:24 pm

    @Mike in NC: That was Kafkaesque, trying to log in, wasn’t it?

    Tried not to be miffed when I wasn’t recognized. Told myself not to worry, WaterGirl would fix everything.

  13. 13.

    2liberal

    July 21, 2022 at 7:25 pm

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/far-right-channel-one-america-news-officially-dropped-by-verizon-fio

     

    Verizon announced on Thursday that One America News will be removed from its channel lineup on July 31, leaving the far-right network with almost no TV providers.

  14. 14.

    RedDirtGirl

    July 21, 2022 at 7:26 pm

    See you guys at 8

  15. 15.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 21, 2022 at 7:26 pm

    @CaseyL:

    (Poor WaterGirl; I sent her an email asking if the log in was a new thing, an old thing, or a “just ignore it” thing.)

    She got something similar from me, complete with a couple of illustrative screen grabs. Hence my “ignore email message” to her at comment #6.

  16. 16.

    JWR

    July 21, 2022 at 7:27 pm

    So, anything good on TV tonight?

  17. 17.

    Baud

    July 21, 2022 at 7:27 pm

    Yay.  I need my MTV Anne Laurie!

  18. 18.

    TS

    July 21, 2022 at 7:27 pm

    @Mike in NC:

    I had to delete my bj cookies and then it all came back. Thought I might miss all the hearing feedback. I don’t think I have a WP account.

    I enjoy the prime time – it is 10am in my world – usually these hearings are 2-3am – despite being a night owl – past my bedtime.

  19. 19.

    Baud

    July 21, 2022 at 7:28 pm

    @JWR:

    Matlock rerun.

  20. 20.

    Jackie

    July 21, 2022 at 7:28 pm

    I’m not sure how I maneuvered my way here. I started in 2018, clicked on war in Ukraine which didn’t get me where I expected to go, then clicked on HOME and olé! I’m exhausted. And glad to get here without a password I didn’t have!

    PS: Don’t see a remember me box to click.

  21. 21.

    TaMara

    July 21, 2022 at 7:29 pm

    Testing.

    Yup, looks like we are a working blog again. And even cooler – all 1063 of my posts are back in the archives.

  22. 22.

    NotMax

    July 21, 2022 at 7:29 pm

    “Join us for the Zoom on Wed 5/18 at 7:30” in right-hand column.

    Off to Amazon to search for bargains on time machines.

    :)

  23. 23.

    Grumpy Old Railroader

    July 21, 2022 at 7:30 pm

    @Geminid: Happy Thor’s Day

    Kann nicht warten, bist morgen ist Freitag

  24. 24.

    CaseyL

    July 21, 2022 at 7:31 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I said the same thing in the previous post, the status announcement one.  I think there are a lot of emails WaterGirl will be able to ignore now :)

  25. 25.

    steppy

    July 21, 2022 at 7:32 pm

    I was going to reply with the Simpsons “Tappa tappa tappa” meme but failed to do so. Please consider it as posted.

  26. 26.

    NotMax

    July 21, 2022 at 7:32 pm

    In case any haven’t heard, committee chair Thompson scheduled to appear via remote after testing positive for COVID.

  27. 27.

    Alison Rose 💙🌻💛

    July 21, 2022 at 7:33 pm

    My work day was crazy and now I’m gonna watch this for more crazy.

    I wish I didn’t hate myself so much.

  28. 28.

    Baud

    July 21, 2022 at 7:33 pm

    @NotMax:

    Biden is positive for Covid.

  29. 29.

    WaterGirl

    July 21, 2022 at 7:34 pm

    @Mike in NC: While i was testing the merged server, we made it so that only front-pagers (who have WordPress logins) could get in.

    Once I determined where things stood then I opened it up to everyone without a login and password.

  30. 30.

    daize

    July 21, 2022 at 7:35 pm

    Yay!  Thank you, WG!!!

  31. 31.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 21, 2022 at 7:35 pm

    @Baud: Want.  (Couldn’t resist.)

  32. 32.

    O. Felix Culpa

    July 21, 2022 at 7:36 pm

    @TaMara: Great news! And that’s a lotta posts. :)

  33. 33.

    CaseyL

    July 21, 2022 at 7:36 pm

    @Baud: More people, everywhere, every day.  Many on their third go-round. It’s nuts.

  34. 34.

    NotMax

    July 21, 2022 at 7:37 pm

    @Baud

    A parting gift from MbS?

  35. 35.

    WaterGirl

    July 21, 2022 at 7:37 pm

    @Jackie: There wasn’t a remember me checkbox on Balloon Juice, but there was one of new-old Balloon Juice.

    When we designed the site, I said we didn’t want a box, we just wanted it to fucking remember us.  When the new-old BJ site had the checkbox, I didn’t bug them about it because I knew we would get back to this eventually and they had a lot on their plate.

  36. 36.

    WaterGirl

    July 21, 2022 at 7:38 pm

    @NotMax: Yeah, I have to change all that stuff manually.  It’s like a little buried time capsule.

    But I was sure you guys didn’t want to be locked out while I did the fine-tuning.

  37. 37.

    Baud

    July 21, 2022 at 7:38 pm

    @NotMax:

    I thought it might be Bibi.

  38. 38.

    WaterGirl

    July 21, 2022 at 7:39 pm

    @Baud: Fuck.  I knew it would happen, but fuck anyway.

  39. 39.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 21, 2022 at 7:40 pm

    NBC News YouTube has Chuckles on.  Ugh.

  40. 40.

    Jerzy Russian

    July 21, 2022 at 7:40 pm

    Talk about withdrawal symptoms.  It was like quitting smoking, drinking, and caffeine all at once.

    I am glad the actual time of the hearing was moved to 8:00 EST.  That works out better for me.

  41. 41.

    geg6

    July 21, 2022 at 7:41 pm

    @Alison Rose 💙🌻💛:

    I have poured myself a big glass of wine (and am about to eat dinner).  It smooths all the crazy out quite a bit and helps me see some humor in it all.  Just the thought of the Cheeto melting down is, with a big glass of wine, quite hilarious and satisfying.  Maybe he’ll have a myocardial infarction.

  42. 42.

    raven

    July 21, 2022 at 7:41 pm

    @Baud: Irma Vep

  43. 43.

    Old School

    July 21, 2022 at 7:41 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    While i was testing the merged server, we made it so that only front-pagers (who have WordPress logins) could get in.

    That’s good.  I was worried a setting was wrong and everything wouldn’t come back up today.

  44. 44.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    July 21, 2022 at 7:42 pm

    I spent 15 minutes trying passwords.

  45. 45.

    MisterForkbeard

    July 21, 2022 at 7:43 pm

    Oh look, we’re back! And just in time for the Jan6th event.

    I’ve been jonesing for this site all day. Where else am I supposed to get news? I can’t go to Cole’s twitter, he’s just talking about his colonscopy and fingernails all day.

  46. 46.

    Baud

    July 21, 2022 at 7:43 pm

    The password was Baud!20XX!

  47. 47.

    Sister Golden Bear

    July 21, 2022 at 7:43 pm

    Siri, deliver all the popcorn ASAP.

  48. 48.

    Anne Laurie

    July 21, 2022 at 7:44 pm

    @NotMax: A parting gift from MbS?

    Per the Forward, some Jews are worrying that President Biden should not have been so decent and friendly around Holocaust survivors and Israeli politicians.  Covid is on an upspring in Israel, at the moment.

  49. 49.

    Jackie

    July 21, 2022 at 7:45 pm

    @WaterGirl: It’s been a long, confusing last few months – what’s new was old and back to new-old!

    I just got into the habit of automatically clicking into it every time I posted. I WON’T miss doing that!!!😁

  50. 50.

    sukabi

    July 21, 2022 at 7:46 pm

    well lookie here…. all back and working…

     

    good job all. 👏👏👏👏👍

  51. 51.

    geg6

    July 21, 2022 at 7:47 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Ann:

    I was just puzzled because I didn’t remember ever using a password here.  I did try one of my oldest PWs, just in case, because that was my PW for years at work and what I would probably have used way back in the Dark Ages when I started lurking and then commenting at BJ.  Dang, that was a long time ago!  Pre-Cole conversion!

  52. 52.

    JWR

    July 21, 2022 at 7:47 pm

    @Baud: Oh boy! I hope it’s the one where good ol’ “Barn” comes by the show and demonstrates the art of self-defense to his old pal Andy!

  53. 53.

    WaterGirl

    July 21, 2022 at 7:47 pm

    Today was another 2-chocolate cupcake day.  I told john I had just eaten a medicinal chocolate cupcake, and he thought I meant marijuana.  No, just chocolate for comfort and calm.

  54. 54.

    Jim Appleton

    July 21, 2022 at 7:50 pm

    WaterGirl, you are the best.

    John, you need to pay her or at least respect her as much as you do a jar of mustard.

  55. 55.

    Alison Rose 💙🌻💛

    July 21, 2022 at 7:50 pm

    @geg6: Yeah, it’s times like this I wish I drank.

    Of course by “times like this” I mean the last 6 or 7 years.

  56. 56.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    July 21, 2022 at 7:50 pm

    Oh thank goodness

  57. 57.

    eclare

    July 21, 2022 at 7:52 pm

    @geg6:   Cheers!  Vodka and cran here.

  58. 58.

    mali muso

    July 21, 2022 at 7:52 pm

    So happy to have the place back! Just in time too. Thanks WG!!!

  59. 59.

    J R in WV

    July 21, 2022 at 7:52 pm

    I was so in agony with withdrawal symptoms all afternoon. Wife had a PT session, and I had to sit in the waiting (Earl?) who worked with her. Hard to merge big data sets, I’ve been there and done that, agony!!

    But now everything is back to normal, except for John G Cole’s prep for his you-know-what.\

    Looking forward to the committee hearing just a few moments away. You all take care!!!!!

  60. 60.

    Scout211

    July 21, 2022 at 7:53 pm

    Hey! We’re (mostly) back! Thanks WaterGirl and all the behind-the-scenes techs working on the merger.

  61. 61.

    Edmund Dantes

    July 21, 2022 at 7:53 pm

    Apparently this thing is on.

  62. 62.

    NotMax

    July 21, 2022 at 7:53 pm

    @geg6

    Those of us of old school vintage automatically try “admin” or “test.”

    ;)

  63. 63.

    MobiusKlein

    July 21, 2022 at 7:54 pm

    @raven: ​
     

    No Prisoners!!!

    I vote for lots of Prisoners. Exile to Russia also acceptable

  64. 64.

    piratedan

    July 21, 2022 at 7:54 pm

    catching it on MSNBC and they keep talking about how this is “the end?” and there are STILL so many things to know as of yet…

     

    1. who paid for this?
    2. who aided and abetted the President within the DOJ, Capital Police, and the Military
    3. What did Coup Club do and who were the actual members within the MoC
    4. How did the coordination for this unfold, to put the RW domestic terrorists to coordinate with the WH
    5. why the fuck didn’t anyone rat out the coup with the FBI
    6. How the hell were the FBI and the Homeland people left flat-footed, we’re they also co-opted?
    7. was Pence right to be afraid that the Secret Service were compromised?
  65. 65.

    CaseyL

    July 21, 2022 at 7:55 pm

    @WaterGirl: Not sure it’s a good idea to talk to John about food right now. 😁

  66. 66.

    Joy in FL

    July 21, 2022 at 7:55 pm

    So glad to see the site up in time for the hearing.

    Thanks to those who made that happen.

  67. 67.

    MobiusKlein

    July 21, 2022 at 7:56 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Ann: ​
     

    I spent 15 minutes trying passwords.

    Don’t enter random passwords into suspicious sites. Which include Balloon-juice in all states, come to think of it.

  68. 68.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 21, 2022 at 7:56 pm

    @NotMax: I put in “1234”

  69. 69.

    Scout211

    July 21, 2022 at 7:57 pm

    I guess we are going to see the outtakes of Trump trying to make his video address on the 7th(?) but wouldn’t actually say that election was over and Biden won.

  70. 70.

    Mike in NC

    July 21, 2022 at 7:57 pm

    @WaterGirl: Thank you. Off to watch CNN.

  71. 71.

    NotMax

    July 21, 2022 at 7:58 pm

    @CaseyL

    Also best to refrain from any ‘pics or it didn’t happen’ requests.

    :)

  72. 72.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    July 21, 2022 at 7:58 pm

    I can hear Maddow in the next room. Committee says there’ll be more hearings in September

  73. 73.

    James E Powell

    July 21, 2022 at 7:59 pm

    @raven:

    How is Irma Vep?

    I finally got started on Expanse, Season 6.

  74. 74.

    Jim Appleton

    July 21, 2022 at 7:59 pm

    OT, in anticipation of what’s about to happen:

    A day or so ago David [all those noise stuff] Koch commented that iDJT doesn’t want to be president again.

    I agree in some qualified respects.

    But it’s clear that he wants the trappings of presidency, and not just to avoid facing charges.  I’d argue he wants it because it scratches his most formative itch.

    Being the focus of attention, even for a handful who he sees as massive crowds, gives him the satisfaction he requires.

    Presidency is the very best highchair.

  75. 75.

    Baud

    July 21, 2022 at 7:59 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Why is Maddow in your house?

  76. 76.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 7:59 pm

    @Juju: Me too!

  77. 77.

    Baud

    July 21, 2022 at 8:00 pm

    Were nyms always this classy serif font?

  78. 78.

    Scout211

    July 21, 2022 at 8:00 pm

    So will Ziegler call this witness a “Ho” or “thot” like he did Cassidy Hutchinson?

  79. 79.

    WaterGirl

    July 21, 2022 at 8:00 pm

    I am just answering all the email messages with a copy & paste explanation.  Not meaning to be unfriendly, there were just a ton of messages and I am just trying to get the word out.

  80. 80.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 8:01 pm

    @CaseyL:

    (Poor WaterGirl; I sent her an email asking if the log in was a new thing, an old thing, or a “just ignore it” thing.)

    FANTASTIC WORK, JOHN, WATERGIRL, and EVERYONE ELSE who worked on this.

    Same here!

  81. 81.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    July 21, 2022 at 8:01 pm

    @Baud: She just barged in

  82. 82.

    WaterGirl

    July 21, 2022 at 8:01 pm

    @Baud: Yes!

    I did not like the font and the boldness of the font in the nyms on new-old BJ, so I am happy to have these back. :-)

    Also, too, I don’t have an emoji smiley face.  yay!

  83. 83.

    Amir Khalid

    July 21, 2022 at 8:02 pm

    Upon reflection, it wouldn’t have been Balloon Juice if the site merge had gone off without a hitch.

  84. 84.

    Baud

    July 21, 2022 at 8:03 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    She do be like that.

  85. 85.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 8:03 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: Right.

  86. 86.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 8:04 pm

    “his knowledgeable and sensible advisers” hahaha

  87. 87.

    Baud

    July 21, 2022 at 8:06 pm

    September hearings!

  88. 88.

    Scout211

    July 21, 2022 at 8:06 pm

    Back in September.  Sweet!

  89. 89.

    Spanky

    July 21, 2022 at 8:07 pm

    Every time someone says “January 6th”, drink!

  90. 90.

    SpaceUnit

    July 21, 2022 at 8:07 pm

    And he’d do it again.

  91. 91.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 21, 2022 at 8:08 pm

    Wait, Orange Shitstain Jr and Kremlin Barbie wanted Dump to call off the mob?  Seriously?

  92. 92.

    raven

    July 21, 2022 at 8:08 pm

    @James E Powell: We’re really enjoying it and are sad we’re nearing the end!

  93. 93.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 8:08 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Yeah, there are a couple of text messages to that effect.

  94. 94.

    Mike in NC

    July 21, 2022 at 8:08 pm

    Trump goes down in history alongside Stalin and Hitler.

  95. 95.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 21, 2022 at 8:08 pm

    @Spanky: Every time someone says “January 6th”, drink!

    A sip of water?

  96. 96.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 8:09 pm

    Right on, Liz!

  97. 97.

    WaterGirl

    July 21, 2022 at 8:09 pm

    I thought this was the 8th hearing.  Do I have that wrong?

  98. 98.

    Baud

    July 21, 2022 at 8:10 pm

    @Mike in NC:

    Benedict Arnold and John Wilkes Booth.

    Hitler and Stalin killed a lot more people.

  99. 99.

    Spanky

    July 21, 2022 at 8:10 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Did she spend 20 unnecessay minutes explaining why she barged in?

  100. 100.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 8:10 pm

    @Baud: So far.

  101. 101.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 21, 2022 at 8:10 pm

    @zhena gogolia: I’m surprised given what trash the entire family is.

  102. 102.

    Jerzy Russian

    July 21, 2022 at 8:10 pm

    Mitch McConnell really does look like a turtle.

  103. 103.

    Scout211

    July 21, 2022 at 8:11 pm

    @WaterGirl: Liz said this was #9

  104. 104.

    dnfree

    July 21, 2022 at 8:11 pm

    @WaterGirl: I just said the same thing.  I think it’s 8th?

  105. 105.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 21, 2022 at 8:13 pm

    “Kevin McCarthy was scared”

    twist that knife, Dick Jr

  106. 106.

    Anne Laurie

    July 21, 2022 at 8:14 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Wait, Orange Shitstain Jr and Kremlin Barbie wanted Dump to call off the mob? Seriously?

    Yup.  Crossing the streams, but I made the mistake of reading the NYTimes’ story on Ivana’s funeral — those kids were abused, and they’ve got the self-protective reactions to displays of adult anger / violence still.

    Doesn’t mean they aren’t sh*tty human beings who deserve to be in jail, but there’s some reasons behind their general lack of human worth.

  107. 107.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 8:14 pm

    tina Fey is doing the signing!

  108. 108.

    tom

    July 21, 2022 at 8:14 pm

    I’m not a fan of Liz Cheney, but I’m a fan of Liz Cheney.

  109. 109.

    James E Powell

    July 21, 2022 at 8:15 pm

    @piratedan:

    7. was Pence right to be afraid that the Secret Service were compromised

    I would like to see every member of the Secret Service who was in DC that week brought in & put under oath so that United States Department of Justice knows what in the Good Christ – excuse me Angie – went on with them.

  110. 110.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 8:15 pm

    @tom: Same.

  111. 111.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 21, 2022 at 8:15 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Haha

  112. 112.

    Alison Rose 💙🌻💛

    July 21, 2022 at 8:16 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: LOL. I just posted on FB “Liz Cheney has that way of speaking very calmly while also sounding like she’s about to stab a motherfucker in the gut”

  113. 113.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 8:16 pm

    Nice pseudo-military outfit on Luria.

  114. 114.

    EmanG

    July 21, 2022 at 8:16 pm

    The usage of that McConnell clip was brutal. LC comes back and says, “see how right he was?” and moves on.

  115. 115.

    Jackie

    July 21, 2022 at 8:16 pm

    @piratedan: Through out the day on MSNBC, Committee members have strongly hinted this is the finale of SEASON ONE. They’re still processing and interviewing, PLUS trying to get/find the “lost” Secret Service texts and emails.

  116. 116.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 21, 2022 at 8:16 pm

    @Anne Laurie: I see.

  117. 117.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    July 21, 2022 at 8:17 pm

    @MobiusKlein: You are so very right.  I usually know better.

  118. 118.

    piratedan

    July 21, 2022 at 8:18 pm

    @James E Powell: ty for the Wilford Brimley scene steal of the century moment there.

    I suspect that J6 Committee wants to have more than a few asses in their collective briefcases

  119. 119.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    July 21, 2022 at 8:19 pm

    @Baud: ​
      thanks to the vaccines he’s not being medevac-ed out to a M*A*S*H unit Walter Reed.

  120. 120.

    PAM Dirac

    July 21, 2022 at 8:19 pm

    @Alison Rose 💙🌻💛: I chuckled when Chairman Thompson said that Cheney would be responsible for keeping order. Who knows what firepower she has under the podium and she is probably itching to use it :-)

  121. 121.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 8:19 pm

    Hi, Kev!

  122. 122.

    piratedan

    July 21, 2022 at 8:19 pm

    @Jackie: aye Jackie, we’re gonna get a new season in September, maybe by that time, the DOJ can get off their ass in the interim.

  123. 123.

    PAM Dirac

    July 21, 2022 at 8:19 pm

    @Alison Rose 💙🌻💛: Bummer. double posted. I blame the new site. Yeaah that’s must of been what happened.

  124. 124.

    Tinare

    July 21, 2022 at 8:19 pm

    @Alison Rose 💙🌻💛:  Perfect description.

  125. 125.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 21, 2022 at 8:20 pm

    @Alison Rose 💙🌻💛:

    “Liz Cheney has that way of speaking very calmly while also sounding like she’s about to stab a motherfucker in the gut”

    Heh. That’s very true, and well put!

  126. 126.

    Alison Rose 💙🌻💛

    July 21, 2022 at 8:20 pm

    @PAM Dirac: Right? I was like, ooh shit, is she gonna walk out with a rifle??

  127. 127.

    dww44

    July 21, 2022 at 8:21 pm

    @Jerzy Russian: He really does. His speech is akin to a turtles deliberate slowness as well.

  128. 128.

    Citizen Alan

    July 21, 2022 at 8:23 pm

    @Juju: Ditto. I was racking my brains. “When did I ever have a password for this site?!?”

  129. 129.

    Immanentize

    July 21, 2022 at 8:23 pm

    @Baud:

    There’s no eye for an eye, there’s no tooth for a tooth
    I saw Judas Iscariot carrying John Wilkes Booth

  130. 130.

    Alison Rose 💙🌻💛

    July 21, 2022 at 8:24 pm

    “foreign policy accomplishments” LOL okay bro

  131. 131.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 8:24 pm

    President Trump’s foreign policy “accomplishments”

    FU

  132. 132.

    Baud

    July 21, 2022 at 8:25 pm

    Ugh.  This asshole’s testimony better be off the charts.

  133. 133.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 21, 2022 at 8:26 pm

    @Alison Rose 💙🌻💛:

    @zhena gogolia: Exactly.

  134. 134.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 8:26 pm

    @Baud: The other one’s just as bad. thots and prayers

  135. 135.

    Baud

    July 21, 2022 at 8:26 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    Yeah, these seem to be the two sleeziest witnesses they’ve had.

  136. 136.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    July 21, 2022 at 8:26 pm

    @zhena gogolia: peace treaties with Israel? Did that happen on our planet?

    Still, I get it. Get incredibly damaging testimony from obvious loyalist MAGA heads.

  137. 137.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    July 21, 2022 at 8:27 pm

    All the networks are carrying the hearing, as is PBS, CSPAN, BBC, CNN, and MSNBC.

    The lone hold out is Fox “News” which is currently showing failed California gubernatorial candidate Larry Elder selling drugs snake oil promising to increase energy in seniors suckers.

  138. 138.

    Mike in NC

    July 21, 2022 at 8:27 pm

    Pottenger is proud of Fat Bastard’s nonexistent foreign policy accomplishments.

  139. 139.

    Immanentize

    July 21, 2022 at 8:27 pm

    Is Mathews gonna shiv McInehny? Please?

  140. 140.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 21, 2022 at 8:27 pm

    @Alison Rose 💙🌻💛: I suspect, like Albert Swearengen, Ms Cheney prefers close in work, with a knife. She like to feel it when she wounds.

    “Proud of President trump’s foreign policy”. Lately I keep seeing in my head that picture of him saluting some North Korean general, looking for all the world like the subordinate in the scene

  141. 141.

    Spanky

    July 21, 2022 at 8:28 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Are you my wife? My wife just responded with that.

    (IANG)

  142. 142.

    TS

    July 21, 2022 at 8:28 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    President Trump’s foreign policy “accomplishments”

    Wiped out most of the post WWII international agreements that the US was part of – quite some accomplishment

  143. 143.

    Mike E

    July 21, 2022 at 8:28 pm

    @Baud: They gotta first establish repub bona fides for their testimony to land and stick

  144. 144.

    piratedan

    July 21, 2022 at 8:29 pm

    the fact that this is GOP on GOP violence is telling, but geez, how is it that all of these GOP loyalists were never on anyone’s speed dial to dish on the insanity within…

    while I appreciate the fact that they are testifying now, how the fuck did our media just let this go?  I mean we have a million stories about gas prices and HRC’s e-mail but no one digging into the latest attempted coup in US history?

  145. 145.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 8:29 pm

    @Spanky: My husband is trying hard not to hear what’s going on. It upsets him too much.

  146. 146.

    Ben Cisco

    July 21, 2022 at 8:29 pm

    @zhena gogolia: What a load of crap. Even while testifying this jackwagon is still delusional.

  147. 147.

    Geminid

    July 21, 2022 at 8:31 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: Treaties with Bahrain, the UAE, and Morocco.

  148. 148.

    Baud

    July 21, 2022 at 8:31 pm

    Adam!

  149. 149.

    Ben Cisco

    July 21, 2022 at 8:31 pm

    @piratedan: They are on his side. Is that not obvious by now?

  150. 150.

    Spanky

    July 21, 2022 at 8:32 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Say, you are my wife!

    She has it on and I’m trying not to hear. And failing.

  151. 151.

    opiejeanne

    July 21, 2022 at 8:32 pm

    @Juju: Me too. Thank you Dorothy Winsor!

  152. 152.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 8:32 pm

    @Spanky: Haha

  153. 153.

    Scout211

    July 21, 2022 at 8:33 pm

    USSS officers now have private attorneys.

  154. 154.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 21, 2022 at 8:34 pm

    the lunges in the SUV circulated widely among the Secret Service… by text, maybe?

  155. 155.

    Spanky

    July 21, 2022 at 8:35 pm

    The SS is going to come out of this so fucking dirty. Gonna need a serious disinfecting.

  156. 156.

    Scout211

    July 21, 2022 at 8:35 pm

    No record of what he did in the dining room. I think it has to do with hamberders.

  157. 157.

    piratedan

    July 21, 2022 at 8:35 pm

    @Ben Cisco: i hear ya Ben, I guess its never easy giving up the illusion that there is someone in the media who would be brave enough to not only discover the truth but publish it.

  158. 158.

    Alison Rose 💙🌻💛

    July 21, 2022 at 8:36 pm

    “no photographs” not suspish at all

  159. 159.

    Anotherlurker

    July 21, 2022 at 8:36 pm

    @Mike in NC: I’m glad these Magats who worked in the White House are testifying but omg! what a Buch of fascist assholes they are. If they can still say they are proud of their time spent in the WH then they are beyond redemption.  I hope their testimony is damning.

    These vacuous fascist blonds really turn my stomach.

  160. 160.

    Geminid

    July 21, 2022 at 8:37 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I think there were texts that were a lot worse than those about the SUV incident.

  161. 161.

    Scout211

    July 21, 2022 at 8:39 pm

    Call log is “empty”. Yeah, sure.

  162. 162.

    tom

    July 21, 2022 at 8:39 pm

    @Anotherlurker: the cognitive dissonance on display here is just astounding.

  163. 163.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 21, 2022 at 8:39 pm

    @Geminid: I swear I remember a story from a few weeks ago about how widespread support for the insurrection was among SS agents,including references to texts, but I can’t remember where I saw it, and I can’t believe the specifics haven’t come up again in the last week. I don’t/ think I was hallucinating.

  164. 164.

    Spanky

    July 21, 2022 at 8:39 pm

    @Geminid:  It would be logical to assume that. I assume the J6 committee will act accordingly.

  165. 165.

    Layer8Problem

    July 21, 2022 at 8:39 pm

    @Scout211:  Yeah, I wonder why?  Secret Service and Homeland Security have very nice internal counsel, right?

  166. 166.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 21, 2022 at 8:40 pm

    It’s so disgusting repeatedly hearing the Kremlin’s orange fascist shitstain referred to by that title.

  167. 167.

    raven

    July 21, 2022 at 8:41 pm

    @Anotherlurker: So you thought they were going to turn into flower children?

  168. 168.

    Gvg

    July 21, 2022 at 8:41 pm

    I have been brooding lately. Trump was making “joking” comments about a third term before he won the first election. He always clearly had no respect for the limits of the Constitution and frankly all voters of all parties should have considered him unfit for any office because of that attitude. It upset me then, especially because few other people seemed to notice. It was a screaming red flag warning.

  169. 169.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 21, 2022 at 8:41 pm

    @Layer8Problem: ​
      Institutional lawyers do not represent individuals.

  170. 170.

    Scout211

    July 21, 2022 at 8:42 pm

    Kinzinger: “his now infamous go home message.” 🤣

  171. 171.

    Alison Rose 💙🌻💛

    July 21, 2022 at 8:42 pm

    @tom: pretty sure “cognitive dissonance” was a job requirement for working in the Trump admin

  172. 172.

    tom

    July 21, 2022 at 8:43 pm

    @Alison Rose 💙🌻💛: heh. No doubt

  173. 173.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 8:43 pm

    @Scout211: First catchphrase of the evening!

  174. 174.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 8:44 pm

    Not surprising that Dershowitz had to defend him in the 2nd impeachment. Cipollone wasn’t about to do it.

  175. 175.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 21, 2022 at 8:45 pm

    @Gvg: It was obvious when he wanted to have Hillary Clinton arrested for nothing.  Fascist trash.

    (Just adding, not refuting)

  176. 176.

    Gvg

    July 21, 2022 at 8:45 pm

    Cspan is freezing up on me.

  177. 177.

    Anotherlurker

    July 21, 2022 at 8:45 pm

    @raven: I guess I never did expect that they would turn out to be good people but OMG what evil bastards they all are.

    I will never forgive them for totally turning me off to blond women.  I view blond and blue eyed  as being a Nazi co-morbidity.

  178. 178.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 8:45 pm

    @Gvg: Use the House feed. It’s linked in the OP.

  179. 179.

    dww44

    July 21, 2022 at 8:45 pm

    @Mike E: Also they want to assure other Republicans they are still committed Republicans. Self serving.  I think if I were in the same position I hope I wouldn’t feel the need to assure everyone I was still a faithful party member. It’s like he’s reassuring Trump he’s still on his team.
     

  180. 180.

    MagdaInBlack

    July 21, 2022 at 8:45 pm

    @Gvg: I remember that. It made me perk up and think ” uh-oh.”

  181. 181.

    Anonymous At Work

    July 21, 2022 at 8:47 pm

    @Scout211: Isn’t his tone just “Let’s Go Donald!”?

  182. 182.

    Anonymous At Work

    July 21, 2022 at 8:48 pm

    @Mike in NC: I’d not be part of that committee because I’d ask if he was proud about children in cages.

  183. 183.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 8:48 pm

    Cipollone is such a weasel.

  184. 184.

    Mallard Filmore

    July 21, 2022 at 8:49 pm

    @James E Powell:

    link: https://youtu.be/slsIaif4tSE
    title: “Lawrence: James Murray Is The Problem At The Secret Service”

  185. 185.

    Geminid

    July 21, 2022 at 8:49 pm

    I think the man questioning Cippolone is Commitee investigator Tim Heaphy, former U.S. Attorney for the Western District of Virginia under President Obama.

  186. 186.

    Alison Rose 💙🌻💛

    July 21, 2022 at 8:50 pm

    LOL I love the map thing. Little pass/agg “lazy bastard” stuff.

  187. 187.

    Scout211

    July 21, 2022 at 8:52 pm

    Ha ha. They were worried about what the President would say in an unscripted news conference. 😂

  188. 188.

    Anotherlurker

    July 21, 2022 at 8:52 pm

    @Anotherlurker: Edit time ran out.  I know not all blonds are fascist trash but boy  the look is really tarnished.

  189. 189.

    raven

    July 21, 2022 at 8:52 pm

    Matthews, who had previously been supportive of the Trump administration’s work during the former president’s term, took to Twitter in January to comment on the one-year anniversary of the insurrection, calling it “one of the darkest days in American history.”

    “Make no mistake, the events on the 6th were a coup attempt, a term we’d use had they happened in any other country, and former President Trump failed to meet the moment,” Matthews wrote in a Twitter thread.

  190. 190.

    Layer8Problem

    July 21, 2022 at 8:53 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:  I know next to nothing about the legal realm, but is it normal for a federal employee to need private representation regarding investigation of the execution of their duties?

  191. 191.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 21, 2022 at 8:53 pm

    Luria’s gold chain has Flavor Flav street cred.

  192. 192.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 8:54 pm

    @Layer8Problem: IANAL, but if they behave improperly, the employer doesn’t have to defend them.

  193. 193.

    Alison Rose 💙🌻💛

    July 21, 2022 at 8:55 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: She’s gonna be Cheney’s hype woman in their post-hearing wrap-up TikTok

  194. 194.

    debbie

    July 21, 2022 at 8:56 pm

    Good fucking god, enough already.

    @zhena gogolia:

    NPR feed is pretty good too.

  195. 195.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 8:57 pm

    Terrifying.

  196. 196.

    Scout211

    July 21, 2022 at 8:57 pm

    Oh God, I haven’t seen this footage before. Scary.  Sickening.

  197. 197.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 21, 2022 at 8:57 pm

    @Alison Rose 💙🌻💛:

    Hip hop duo Liz and Lu

  198. 198.

    Spanky

    July 21, 2022 at 8:58 pm

    @Mallard Filmore: A single scapegoat?

    I don’t think so.

  199. 199.

    raven

    July 21, 2022 at 9:00 pm

    Maybe they’ll show Ashely Babbit get blown away.

  200. 200.

    Mike E

    July 21, 2022 at 9:00 pm

    @dww44: no doubt, they are quick to proclaim their allegiance, but I am liking this dual format (for contrast in case one of them wavers) and that they both have to sit there during the full extent of the committee’s careful explanations/set up. Fuggem, they can brag all they want but at the end of the day the sound bites and headlines won’t contain any of that crap.

  201. 201.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 21, 2022 at 9:00 pm

    @Layer8Problem: IMO anyone who is asked to testify in front of this Committee would be insane not to have private legal counsel.  Even if everything they personally did was legit.

  202. 202.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 21, 2022 at 9:02 pm

    @Mallard Filmore:
    Richard M. Nixon @dick_nixon 14m
    The situation at the Secret Service is bad enough I think someone will personally retain counsel and blow it up. A lot are guilty but someone won’t want to go down the drain with them.

    Murray was promoted to trump by Ornato, and I think the other guy in the infamous SUV was named Engel (sp?). That’s three guys, just for starters, each wondering what the other two have said and to whom.

  203. 203.

    Alison Rose 💙🌻💛

    July 21, 2022 at 9:03 pm

    Dang. Hearing what the crowd was saying to each other, and then seeing what Trump tweeted at that moment…he poured fuel on the fire.

    (LOL I typed that exactly as Luria said it!)

  204. 204.

    tom

    July 21, 2022 at 9:03 pm

    Pence’s Secret Service detail was in fear for their lives. Wow

  205. 205.

    Baud

    July 21, 2022 at 9:04 pm

    I too read tweets by printing them out.

  206. 206.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 21, 2022 at 9:04 pm

    @Anotherlurker: ​
      Good. Stay away from my 19 y/o niece.

  207. 207.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 9:04 pm

    @tom: Saying goodbye to their families . . .

  208. 208.

    debbie

    July 21, 2022 at 9:04 pm

    As bad as I’ve known Trump to be since forever, this is even worse

  209. 209.

    Mike E

    July 21, 2022 at 9:05 pm

    @Baud: Lincoln was live tweeting at Gettysburg

  210. 210.

    raven

    July 21, 2022 at 9:05 pm

    @tom: Fuckin right they were.

  211. 211.

    Baud

    July 21, 2022 at 9:05 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Your niece is a Nazi?

  212. 212.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 9:05 pm

    Catchphrase No. 2: “that’s a terrible tweet”

  213. 213.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 9:06 pm

    @Baud: You so funny

    ETA: “the good things he had done for the country”

    Like what, Cassidy? What? What?

  214. 214.

    JWR

    July 21, 2022 at 9:06 pm

    Boy, I’m really gonna have to watch this hearing again, probably tonight on PBSWorld. Too much information!

  215. 215.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 21, 2022 at 9:06 pm

    @tom:

    That blew me away, they were calling their fucking families to say goodbye!

  216. 216.

    Spanky

    July 21, 2022 at 9:06 pm

    “Extremely unhelpful” tweet. No shit.

  217. 217.

    raven

    July 21, 2022 at 9:07 pm

    @Baud:
    Cause I’m a Blond

  218. 218.

    Alison Rose 💙🌻💛

    July 21, 2022 at 9:07 pm

    @Baud: are you my dad

    wait no, I don’t think my dad knows how to print stuff

  219. 219.

    dmsilev

    July 21, 2022 at 9:07 pm

    The original has been (sadly) deleted, but here’s a tweet with a screenshot of the House GOP’s Twitter feed being epically stupid:

    For posterity. pic.twitter.com/ynDpzEUYiy
    — __josh (@__josh) July 22, 2022

  220. 220.

    piratedan

    July 21, 2022 at 9:07 pm

    @Spanky: insert “this is fine” meme here….

  221. 221.

    tom

    July 21, 2022 at 9:08 pm

    “Good things he had done for the country.” WTAF??

  222. 222.

    Scout211

    July 21, 2022 at 9:08 pm

    Naming GOP names. Finally. I’ve been waiting for this.

  223. 223.

    Layer8Problem

    July 21, 2022 at 9:08 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:  On reflection that actually sounds painfully obvious, recalling all the advice I’ve heard to say nothing to police without a lawyer present, or go ahead, talk, and expect to have a bad time.

  224. 224.

    Alison Rose 💙🌻💛

    July 21, 2022 at 9:09 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Well, from GWB’s perspective, he did the “good thing” of making him no longer the worst president we’ve ever had

  225. 225.

    raven

    July 21, 2022 at 9:09 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:
    Mark Knopfler & Emmylou Harris – If This Is Goodbye
     

    Who knows how long we’ve got
    Or what we’re made of
    Who knows if there’s plan or not
    There is our love
    I know there is our love

  226. 226.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 21, 2022 at 9:09 pm

    @Baud: ​
      According to AnotherLurker, apparently so. I think she identifies as a Swiftie.

  227. 227.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 9:09 pm

    Hawley in the barrel!

    ETA: Runnin’ like a jackrabbit!

  228. 228.

    TS

    July 21, 2022 at 9:09 pm

    Why is he not under arrest?   He may yet regret not being impeached the first time around.

  229. 229.

    citizen dave

    July 21, 2022 at 9:09 pm

    Hawley

     

    Run away!  Run away!

  230. 230.

    Alison Rose 💙🌻💛

    July 21, 2022 at 9:10 pm

    LOL HAWLEY RUNNING LIKE A SCARED LITTLE RABBIT.

    I wouldn’t blame anyone else for running away from that shit. But fuck that fucking seditious twerp.

  231. 231.

    Scout211

    July 21, 2022 at 9:10 pm

    Hawley. Ugh. And then he “fled.”  He runs fast through the Capitol. LOL Standing tall.

  232. 232.

    Baud

    July 21, 2022 at 9:10 pm

    Haha. Brave Sir Hawley.

  233. 233.

    tom

    July 21, 2022 at 9:10 pm

    Naming names – Hawley! Yes!!

  234. 234.

    raven

    July 21, 2022 at 9:10 pm

    @Alison Rose 💙🌻💛: Sheeeeet, the Trickster was way worse.

  235. 235.

    Spanky

    July 21, 2022 at 9:10 pm

    Fuckin’ Hawley.

  236. 236.

    Lapassionara

    July 21, 2022 at 9:11 pm

    Wow. josh Hawley running away from the mob. Way to go, Jan 6 Committee

  237. 237.

    Old School

    July 21, 2022 at 9:11 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: I hope she’s not an Illinois Nazi.

    I hate Illinois Nazis.

  238. 238.

    raven

    July 21, 2022 at 9:11 pm

    @tom: Man, youtube tv is about three minutes behind!

  239. 239.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    July 21, 2022 at 9:11 pm

    Recess!  I call the swings!

  240. 240.

    Anotherlurker

    July 21, 2022 at 9:11 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: No problem!  She is probably a very intelligent, caring woman who wouldn’t touch me with a 10′ pole.

    I prefer women over 55, anyway.

  241. 241.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 21, 2022 at 9:11 pm

    @raven:

    Helluva tune.

  242. 242.

    Spanky

    July 21, 2022 at 9:11 pm

    Pee break!

  243. 243.

    VFX Lurker

    July 21, 2022 at 9:11 pm

    @Alison Rose 💙🌻💛:  LOL HAWLEY RUNNING LIKE A SCARED LITTLE RABBIT.

    As horrifying as this presentation is, that one part got a guffaw out of me, too. Hope it gets airtime on Jimmy Kimmel.

  244. 244.

    Tony G

    July 21, 2022 at 9:12 pm

    Well done.  You folks were able to perform this maneuver flawlessly, yet the Secret Service can’t manage to “find” their deleted texts.  Something ain’t right.

  245. 245.

    WaterGirl

    July 21, 2022 at 9:12 pm

    I just put up the “Part 2” post.

  246. 246.

    SpaceUnit

    July 21, 2022 at 9:12 pm

    It would be nice if they’d show a cartoon during intermission.

  247. 247.

    raven

    July 21, 2022 at 9:12 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: Inspired by calls to family on 9/11 when people knew they were going to die.

  248. 248.

    tom

    July 21, 2022 at 9:12 pm

    Time to refill the drinks

  249. 249.

    Baud

    July 21, 2022 at 9:13 pm

    Not much action with the witnesses.  I wonder if they have more to offer.

  250. 250.

    Scout211

    July 21, 2022 at 9:13 pm

    Time to go upstairs!

  251. 251.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 9:14 pm

    @Baud: I prefer the clips of weasels like Cipollone and Kushner.

  252. 252.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 21, 2022 at 9:14 pm

    Kind of amazing Water Girl can merge three different iterations of a website and all its attendant data and detail, and we can’t recover the texts sent by USSS (I refuse to use SS) agents on Jan. 6.

    @raven:

    And by all the mass shootings, hell, the Uvalde police officer got a text from his dying wife!

  253. 253.

    zhena gogolia

    July 21, 2022 at 9:14 pm

    @Scout211: Same here!

  254. 254.

    Mallard Filmore

    July 21, 2022 at 9:15 pm

    @Spanky: “Single”?  Hardly.  From him down through every agent that lost their 1/6 text messages.

  255. 255.

    Immanentize

    July 21, 2022 at 9:16 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Kushner is sucking lemons.

    Cipollone is a lawyer bot.

  256. 256.

    Almost Retired

    July 21, 2022 at 9:17 pm

    @Baud:  I have to assume that Pottinger didn’t just walk out to his car after his resignation on January 6, so he’ll  be able to talk about what happened thereafter?  At least I hope so, or he would have been excused at the break?

  257. 257.

    Immanentize

    July 21, 2022 at 9:18 pm

    @Mike E: hell, the whole Gettysburg address was a tweet thread.

    ETA 272 words, lasted two minutes.

  258. 258.

    Ken

    July 21, 2022 at 9:22 pm

    @Baud: Matlock rerun.

    I don’t think the committee is going for Matlock’s trademark “I just have to give the jury a reason to doubt” defense.

  259. 259.

    tom

    July 21, 2022 at 9:25 pm

    Heh. Hawley is trending on twitter

  260. 260.

    eachother

    July 21, 2022 at 9:32 pm

    Perhaps the Committee expects to have the Secret Service communication transcripts by September.
    Perhaps sooner.?

  261. 261.

    Anotherlurker

    July 21, 2022 at 9:52 pm

    I am seeing great restraint by the police.  My guess is if there were black people involved, the cops would revert back to their trigger happy selves.

    I guess the violent mob is enjoying their white privilege.

  262. 262.

    Gvg

    July 21, 2022 at 10:04 pm

    You know, I don’t think individual secret service members would be able to hide their texts. I am thinking it has to be senior management doing it.

    I also wonder if any of them have personal phones and had government phones as separate items…and if they sent texts to non SS places, then those aren’t lost. The revelation that Pences detail was sending last messages to their families got me thinking. There are two ends to any text. Either end can provide a copy.

    site is not saving my nym all the time

  263. 263.

    WaterGirl

    July 21, 2022 at 10:23 pm

    @Gvg: Do you clear your cookies?  Or have settings that don’t save cookies?  Use private browsing?

    Those are two reasons why it won’t remember a nym.

  264. 264.

    Paul in KY

    July 22, 2022 at 9:18 am

    @raven: I would have loved to see that.

  265. 265.

    Paul in KY

    July 22, 2022 at 9:25 am

    @Alison Rose 💙🌻💛: James Polk is feelin better too. Warren Harding too, also!

  266. 266.

    Paul in KY

    July 22, 2022 at 9:32 am

    @raven: Naw…Trump was worst.  When you consider the whole package. Just my opinion here.

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