(Image by Gianluca Constantini and posted on his Twitter)
Kharkiv:
A Russian attack on Kharkiv on July 20 killed at least three people, including a 13-year-old boy. The child's grieving father held his dead son's hand and prayed for two hours until his body was taken away. pic.twitter.com/kuTAFpeepj
— Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (@RFERL) July 21, 2022
Here is President Zelenskyy’s address from earlier this evening. Video below, English transcript after the jump (emphasis mine):
Dear Ukrainian men and women!
Dear all our defenders
Today, our state and the entire civilized world have reached an important agreement – we have an agreement that allows us to unblock Ukrainian ports and restore Ukrainian agricultural exports.
From the first day of the full-scale invasion, Russia did everything to not just close Ukraine’s access to the sea, but to destroy the very potential of our exports – port infrastructure, our railways, warehouses and silos. We did not allow it.
And now we can not only restore the operation of our ports on the Black Sea, but also keep them protected. This has been worked out with our military and with our intelligence. The military assured me of one hundred percent control of the approaches to our ports.
For a long time, all the details of the initiative signed today in Istanbul were discussed with our key international partners and the United Nations. Many leaders were involved in helping to restore our exports by sea. And I am grateful to UN Secretary-General António Guterres and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan for their efforts.
The text of the document signed today is published, and everyone can read its points. They fully meet the interests of Ukraine.
First. About 20 million tonnes of last year’s grain harvest will be exported. And also it will be possible to sell this year’s harvest – and it is already being harvested. These are the incomes of farmers, the entire agricultural sector and the state budget. These are jobs. These are funds for next year’s sowing season.
We now have approximately $10 billion worth of grain.
Secondly. Finally, there is a chance to reduce the severity of the food crisis provoked by Russia. There is a chance to prevent a global catastrophe – a famine that could lead to political chaos in many countries of the world, in particular in the countries that help us.
And the thirdly. This is another illustration that Ukraine is able to withstand this war. It is important that everything in the territorial waters of Ukraine will be controlled by our state.
And it is clear to everyone that there may be some provocations on the part of Russia, some attempts to discredit Ukrainian and international efforts. But we trust the UN. Now, it is their responsibility and responsibility of international partners to ensure compliance with the agreements.
And I want to thank all our soldiers who cleared Snake Island from the enemy, defend Odesa and Mykolaiv, gradually advance in Kherson region, liberating our territory. I’m thankful to all of you who proves every day: Russia will not win this war.
We are preparing for the start of the second Kyiv Summit of First Ladies and Gentlemen tomorrow. This initiative of the First Lady of Ukraine was founded last year and proved that it can turn the soft power of the wives and husbands of the leaders of the states to solving various problems of national and global scale.
This year’s summit will be devoted to the post-war reconstruction of Ukraine. And it’s not just about reconstruction. It is about the return of people, that is, about displaced people who should not become refugees. About all the necessary help and rehabilitation for those who suffered from the war. And about the revival of social life in communities and cities that were destroyed by the occupiers.
In particular, within the framework of the Summit and on the basis of our public charity platform United24, fundraising for specialized ambulances for Ukraine has already begun.
I won’t reveal everything prepared by the First Lady of Ukraine and her team, but I feel that it will be a powerful event from a diplomatic point of view.
I spoke today with a great friend of Ukraine, Boris Johnson. First of all, about security and defense cooperation. We are waiting for a new package of military support.
Relations between Ukraine and the UK are built on common values. And no matter what happens in politics, the ties between our countries and societies will only strengthen.
In the evening, I signed another decree on awarding our soldiers. 180 combatants were given state awards, 100 of them posthumously.
Eternal memory to all those who gave their lives for the independence of Ukraine!
Eternal glory to all who fight for our country!
Glory to Ukraine!
We’ll see how long it takes for Russia to break this agreement as they’ve broken their past ones on humanitarian relief corridors and ceasefires. That’s if they even allow it to go into effect.
Maria Zolkina, the Director of Regional and Conflict Studies at the Ilko Kucheriv Democratic Initiatives Foundation in Kyiv is not particularly bullish on the agreement:
#Ukraine–#Russia so called grain export deal should be published. However, general format of the deal means:
1) no direct bilateral agreement – no 🇷🇺security commitments to 🇺🇦. Of course, RU will not give any guarantees to 🇹🇷 or UN, cause this is not their territory. ⬇️— Maria Zolkina (@Mariia_Zolkina) July 22, 2022
3) two mirror agreements (🇹🇷, @UN + 🇺🇦 and separately with 🇷🇺) means this deal is no way the 1st step towards any political progress in negotiations on the conflict resolution. #RussiaTerroristState #StandWithUkraine
— Maria Zolkina (@Mariia_Zolkina) July 22, 2022
Ukraine’s MOD posted an operational update earlier today (emphasis mine):
The operational update regarding the russian invasion on 06.00, on July 22, 2022
Glory to Ukraine! The one hundred forty ninth (149) day of the heroic resistance of the Ukrainian people to a russian military invasion continues.
The situation has not undergone any significant changes in the Volyn and Polissya directions. The deadlines for checking the combat readiness of the armed forces of the republic of belarus have been extended until July 31 of this year.
In the Siversky direction, in order to demonstrate their presence, the enemy is shelling the positions of our units and civilian infrastructure in the areas of the settlements of Kamianska Sloboda and Mykolaivka of the Chernihiv oblast and Volfyne and Pavlivka of the Sumy oblast. Conducted aerial reconnaissance of tactical-level UAVs.
In the Kharkiv direction, the enemy shelled the areas of Mospanove, Ruski Tyshky, Dementiivka, Zolochiv, Stara Hnylytsia, Ridne, Rtishchivka, Pushkarne, Velyka Babka, Petrivka, Slatyne and Lebyazhe settlements with artillery.
In the Slovyansk direction, the occupiers fired artillery near Dibrovne, Chepil, Adamivka, Karnaukhivka, Mykilsky, Kurulka, Khreshtyshe and Mazanivka.
In the Donetsk direction, the enemy’s main efforts are concentrated in the Kramatorsk and Bakhmut directions. Carries out systematic shelling of the positions of our troops along the contact line to prevent the transfer of reserves to other directions. Attempts are being made to replenish stocks of ammunition and fuel and oil.
In the Kramatorsk direction, the enemy carried out fire from tanks and rocket artillery in the vicinity of Donetsk, Serebryanka, Verkhnyokamyanske, Spirne and Ivano-Daryivka. It launched an airstrike near the latter. Conducts assault operations in the direction of Verkhnokamyanka – Verkhnokamyanske, hostilities continue.
In the direction of Bakhmut, the enemy fired at our troops from available firepower in the areas of the settlements of Berestove, Bakhmut, Kostyantynivka, Bilohorivka, Pokrovske, Kodema, Vesela Dolyna, New York, Yakovlivka, Vasyukivka, Klishchiivka and the territory of the Vuhlehirska TPP. Made an airstrike near Straipivka.
Assault actions in the directions Dolomitne – Novoluhanske and Straipivka – Soledar ended with losses for the enemy. Our soldiers drove the disorganized units of the invaders back. The enemy continues to attempt an assault in the direction of the Vuhlehirska TPP and near Pokrovske, hostilities continue.
On the Avdiyivka, Novopavlivka, and Zaporizhzhia directions, the enemy fired artillery in the areas of Pisky, Avdiivka, Novomykhailivka, Prechistivka, Zaliznychne, Pavlivka, Vremivka, Novoandriivka, Shevchenko, Ternuvate, Volodymyrivka, Novoyakovlivka, Mali Shcherbaki, Kamianske, and Poltavka. An airstrike was recorded near Prechistivka.
In the South Buh direction, the enemy is defending the previously occupied positions, is concentrating its efforts on preventing the offensive of the Defense Forces, and has introduced reserve units.
Artillery shelling was noted in the areas of the settlements of Ivanivka, Tokarevo, Trudolyubivka, Partyzanske, Kobzartsi, Posad-Pokrovske, Andriivka, Stepova Dolyna, Tavriyske, Olenivka, Shevchenkove, Prybuzke, Lymany, Kiselivka, Novomykolaivka, Velyke Artakove, Mykolaiv and Tetyanivka.
All attempts of enemy assaults in the direction of Mala Semeydynukha – Andriivka and Davydiv Brid – Bilohirka were immediately suppressed by our soldiers. The occupiers left.
There are three Kalibr sea-based cruise missile carriers outside the bases.
Ukrainian aviation and missile and artillery units continue to fire successfully at concentrations of manpower, military equipment of the russian occupiers, and warehouses with ammunition. As a result of the losses, the enemy’s personnel in many areas refused to go into battle and resorted to sabotage.
We believe in the Armed Forces of Ukraine! Together to victory!
Glory to Ukraine!
Here is the British MOD’s assessment for today:
And here is their updated macro level map:
Secretary of Defense Austin and GEN Milley held a press conference regarding Ukraine on Wednesday. The transcript posted yesterday, but since I only did a Patron update last night, it is below (emphasis mine):
STAFF: Good afternoon, everyone. Today was the fourth convening of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group, the second one held virtually.
We’ll start with some opening remarks by the Secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin and by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Mark Milley. Following their remarks, we’ll open the floor up to some questions.
And with that, Mr. Secretary?
SECRETARY OF DEFENSE LLOYD J. AUSTIN III: Thanks. Well, good afternoon, everyone. It’s good to be here with you.
We’ve had a very productive morning in our fourth meeting of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group, which we conducted virtually this time. Russia’s cruel and unprovoked invasion has spurred the international community into action and today’s meeting is just another sign of the way that nations of goodwill are rising to the moment. The security assistance that we are rushing to Ukraine is making a real difference in real time and everyone in the Contact Group has been inspired by the courage of the Ukrainian people and the skill of the Ukrainian military. And that’s why ministers and chiefs of defense from some 50 countries joined us today at our meeting.
Now, throughout its reckless war of choice, Russia has tried and failed to break the morale of the Ukrainian Armed Forces as they defend their home. Ukraine’s leadership also stands unbowed and unflinching. And we were fortunate today to have the opportunity to hear directly from my good friend, Oleksii Reznikov, Ukraine’s Minister of Defense, and Lt. Gen. Moysiuk, Ukraine’s Deputy Chief of Defense.
I’m grateful to these brave leaders for taking the time to update us on Ukraine’s most urgent requirements. They also provided us with an important battlefield update and they described how Russia is massing artillery and rocket fire in its desperate, aggressive push to seize sovereign Ukrainian territory in the Donbas.
Everyone today understands the stakes, but the results of the Contact Group’s security assistance are clear on the ground. Ukrainian forces are now using long-range rocket systems to great effect, including HIMARS provided by the United States, and other systems from our allies and partners. Ukraine’s defenders are pushing hard to halt Russia’s advances in the Donbas.
The international community has also worked hard to provide Ukraine with better coastal defense capabilities, and that directly contributed to Ukraine’s victory on Snake Island and it has helped prevent a Russian landing in Odesa.
But Russia is keeping up its relentless shelling and that’s a cruel tactic that harkens back to the horrors of World War I. So Ukraine needs the firepower and the ammunition to withstand its barrage and to strike back at the Russia — Russian weapons launching these attacks from inside Ukraine’s own territory.
And so we understand the urgency and we’re pushing hard to maintain and intensify the momentum of donations. That includes many new announcements made this morning. We’re seeing countries from all around the world continue to step up with critically needed systems and ammunition. It has been truly an inspiring effort.
And some of our allies and partners are training Ukraine’s forces, some are refurbishing Ukraine’s equipment, and some are providing spare parts and combat enablers as well. Countries, including the Czech Republic, Poland and the UK, are working with their domestic industrial bases to find ways to help Ukraine even more quickly, and other countries, such as our Baltic and Australian allies, continue to generously deliver items from their own stockpiles.
I’m especially grateful to Poland for serving as a linchpin of our security assistance efforts, as well as donating more than $1.7 billion in military equipment. I’d like to thank Norway for its strong cooperation in providing Ukraine with the NASAMS air defense system. I’m very thankful to these countries and to all the countries that have offered aid. I’m confident that these efforts will continue to grow.
Now, as you know, we’ve provided the Ukrainians with 12 HIMARS multiple-launch rocket systems to further strengthen their long-range fires capability and I think that everyone here understands the difference that they’ve made on the ground.
As you heard me say, we’re also committed to providing two NASAMS air defense systems to help Ukraine protect its troops and its civilians from Russian missile attacks. And we’re committed to sending more HIMARS munitions and precision-guided artillery ammunition and other vital support.
The United States will continue to push and to lead. You see that yet again in our next new presidential drawdown of weapons and equipment to help Ukraine defend itself, which we’ll announce later this week. It will be our sixteenth drawdown of equipment from DOD inventory since August 2021. It will include four more HIMARS advanced rocket systems for a total of 16. The Ukrainians have made excellent use of HIMARS and you can see the impact on the battlefield. And the new package will also include additional GMLRS, and that’s — those are the rockets that — that are used on a HIMARS. And we’ll also provide more rounds of artillery ammunition.
Now we’re not working just to provide security assistance in the short term. One key theme of today’s discussion was ensuring that Ukraine can sustain the fight to defend itself and its citizens. So we’re even more focused on Ukraine’s near-term needs — as we’re even more focused on Ukraine’s near-term needs, we’re also looking ahead to provide Ukraine with the capabilities that it will need for deterrence and self-defense over the longer term.
You know the resolve of the — the resolve and the resilience of the Ukrainian people have inspired the world. And as President Biden has said, the United States is leading the way and we won’t let up. We’re going to keep moving at the speed of war. We’re going to make clear that might does not make right. We’re going to stand strong with our fellow Contact Group members. And we’re going to support Ukraine’s self-defense for the long haul. And we’re going to defend the rules-based international order that protects us all.
So thank you very much. And I will now turn it over to Gen. Milley.
GENERAL MARK MILLEY: Good afternoon, everyone.
And thank you, Secretary Austin, for your comments and also for your continued leadership. This group — this Contact Group content would not be happening without you.
And I too want to thank all the members, the ministers, the chiefs of defense that participated today, over 50 countries in this Contact Group. And it’s quite a meeting.
Additionally, I’d like to thank Gen. Moisyuk. He’s the Ukrainian deputy chief of defense. He represented my friend, my partner, my colleague, Ukrainian counterpart who I talk to frequently, Gen. Zaluzhnyi. And I just had a lengthy conversation with him just the other day. And I talk to him several times a week.
Today is five months since Russia launched its illegal invasion. While the Russians have achieved some incremental tactical success in the Donbas, over the last several weeks and actually months, they have failed to achieve their strategic and operational objectives. A capable and defiant people of Ukraine, their capital still stands, their army still fights, and their people are more determined now than ever to preserve their democracy.
The Russian failure is because of the inspiring, the bravery, the resolve, the courage, the resistance of the Ukrainian people. But it’s also because of nations coming together, the international community coming together under U.S. leadership to form this present day Arsenal of Democracy. Freedom-loving countries around the globe have a stake in preserving the rules-based international order. Collectively we cannot allow the strong to conquer the weak, nor tolerate the idea that might makes right.
The unprovoked Russian aggression has profound consequences, not only in Ukraine, but across Europe and, indeed, across the globe. So the president of the United States has directed that we stand by Ukraine in their hour of need. So we will continue to supply the Ukrainians with the weapons that they need to defend their homeland and resist Russian aggression.
When I addressed this group last month, we were in the midst of shipping HIMARS into Ukraine and training the Ukrainians on that weapon system. Today, the Ukrainians are effectively employing these HIMARS, with strikes against Russian command and control nodes, their logistical networks, their field artillery near defense sites and many other targets.
These strikes are steadily degrading the Russian ability to supply their troops, command and control of their forces, and carry out their illegal war of aggression.
The fact that the Ukrainians were able to quickly deploy these systems speaks highly of their ability, their ingenuity, their artillery ability, their gunner capability, their determination, and their will to fight.
As of today, we have transferred 12 HIMARS to Ukraine. This is part of more than 20 that the United States and our allies have committed. Trained also are 200 Ukrainians on the HIMARS and that training continues with many more. And we’ve transferred, as the secretary indicated, hundreds of GMLR munitions.
When the president signs the authorization to provide weapons or ammunition to Ukrainians, these items begin moving within days. The average is about 48 to 72 hours before the initial shipments. And they’re in Ukrainian hands just a week or so later, on the front line.
Secretary Austin and I remain in regular contact with our Ukrainian counterparts, and everything we recommended to the president is based on these conversations and our professional analysis here and in combination with USEUCOM. And that is to support the requirements of the current and future fight.
This phase, the current phase of the war, continues to be a battle of attrition, executed through sustainment and really, long-range fires.
In the near term, the Russians will likely continue using heavy artillery bombardments to achieve their limited gains in the East. However, these tactical gains have come at an incredible cost, in terms of Russian casualties and destroyed equipment.
The Contact Group that met today intends to continue supplying the Ukrainians to defend their country, impose costs and compel the Russians to cease their unprovoked war of aggression.
Today is day 147 since the Russian invasion: illegal and unprovoked; large scale; the strong against the weak. And this fight will likely continue to be a protracted conflict. And so, our discussion as a contact group focused on assisting the Ukrainians to sustain the long fight: How can we best arm and train them so they can continue to defend their country and exhaust the Russian military machine?
In the coming weeks and months, this group will continue to stand alongside our Ukrainian partners and defend the international rules-based order, which is in everyone’s interest.
Thank you and I welcome your questions.
STAFF: Lolita Baldor, Associated Press.
Q: Thank you.
Mr. Secretary, can you talk to us a little bit more about this logistics and sustainment effort? What is the U.S. specifically doing? Are you adding more trainers? Are you — is the — are you doing anything specifically to help Ukraine with this sustainment and logistical issue? And how long do you think the allies and partners will continue to support this effort?
And Chairman Milley, can you give us your military assessment of what is going on in the Donbas right now? Can you give us a picture of how much, if any, gains Ukraine may be making or not making? Is the Donbas lost at this point to Russia?
SEC. AUSTIN: Thanks, Lita.
Well, first of all, sustainment is — is a key part of — of any military operation, and when you’re in combat, it’s really, really important. So it’s not good enough just to provide a piece of equipment. We need to have the — that — that piece of gear plus spare parts, plus tools to — to repair it, you know, at the operational level, down at the — the forward edge of the battlefield. Then the second level of maintenance needs to be available as well, and then that depot level of maintenance, where you have to replace a tube or do something of that nature that’s major maintenance, those pieces need to be in place as well.
So as we — as we discussed with our partners and allies today on what Ukraine’s needs are going forward, these are the kinds of things that we talked about. We know that because there are a number of different types of pieces of equipment that are — that are in the inventory now, that it’s important that the Ukrainians be trained on how to maintain that equipment.
So what we’re doing is — is conducting training in a number of locations on how to — how to maintain equipment. We’re also trying to increase our visibility of — in — in — of what — what’s — what the status of different pieces of equipment are so we can anticipate what logistical needs we’ll — we’ll — we’ll see in the — in the near term.
But — but I think the sustainment piece is — is really, really important. Coincidentally, the Ukrainians think it’s important. And I have to applaud them — they are very resourceful, their ability to very quickly learn how to operate and maintain a piece of equipment is really impressive.
And so we’ve seen them exercise initiative, you know, on the battlefield. We’ve also seen them learn very, very quickly as we have brought troops out of country and into neighboring countries to train them on things like HIMARS and — and our trucks and — and other things. So this will be a — an area of focus for the foreseeable future, as it should be.
In terms of how long, you know, our allies and partners will remain committed, you know, I — I — it — it’s — the — there’s no question that this is — this will always be hard work, making sure that we maintain unity. And I — I will tell you, what I heard today, though, in the — in the meeting was — you know, commitment across the board and — and a — and a focus on, you know, continuing to do the — what’s necessary to ensure that Ukraine had what it needs. I mean, that — that was really impressive and this was — these were spontaneous comments. And — and so, you know, across the board, from minister to minister, that — that was really, really encouraging and — and refreshing to hear, but — but not really surprising.
But — but we know, Lita, that this is going to be work that we’re going to have to remain — maintain focus on going forward, so.
GEN. MILLEY: So Lita, you know, the — the — the invasion begins 24 February, and — and — and then about mid-April, 16 April, in fact, the Russians decide they’re going to go ahead and shift their war aims and come out of the Kyiv lines of advance and mass their forces down to the vicinity of the — the Donbas.
So for the last 90 days, the Russians have massed their ground maneuver forces in that region and the Ukrainians have fought a very effective mobile defense in depth — an area of defense in depth anchored on very strong points in — in urban and village areas, and they have fought the Russians very effectively.
So for 90 days, the Russian advances have amounted to maybe six to 10 miles, something of that range. It’s not very much. It’s very intense, a lot of violence, tens of thousands of artillery rounds every 24-hour period, lots of casualties on both sides, lots of destruction of — of villages and — and — and so on. But in terms of actual ground gain, very, very little by the Russians, relative to all of Ukraine.
As you know, the Ukrainians conducted a controlled, deliberate, planned withdrawal from Severodonetsk. They conducted a rearward passage of lines and conducted a rear river crossing and they set up a new line generally to the west of Severodonetsk, and they are continuing significant resistance.
In addition to that, in the Russian-occupied areas, you have significant resistance behind Russian lines, so to speak. So the — the Russians are challenged not only to their front, with the Ukrainian conventional forces, but they’re also challenged in their rear areas. Their rear areas are not secure, for sure, and the Ukrainians have very effective resistance networks set up.
So the bottom line is, the cost is very high, the gains are very low, there is a grinding war of attrition that is occurring in the — in the Luhansk, Donbas region, Luhansk, Donetsk, the two (inaudible) of Donbas, and to answer your question about is the Donbas lost, no, it’s not lost yet. The Ukrainians are making the Russians pay for every inch of territory that they gain. And — and advances are measured in literally hundreds of meters on a — on a — some days, you might get a kilometer or two out of the Russians, but not much more than that. So high cost, battle of attrition, grinding, not lost yet in — in — in the Donbas, and the Ukrainians intend to continue the fight.
STAFF: Luis Martinez, ABC News?
Q: Mr. Secretary, Foreign Minister — Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov earlier today said that the special military operation – as they called it — in Ukraine is no longer limited to just the Donbas, but it will include other territories in Ukraine. Specifically, he cited the HIMARS. I mean, you’ve both been talking about the HIMARS today. But he talked about how the HIMARS have kind of led to this in a way because they could lead to attacks inside of Russian territory. What’s your reaction to that, please?
And General, when we talk about the near term needs, we — when we talk about HIMARS, the Ukrainians and other experts have talked about the need for dozens more HIMARS systems. Can the U.S. actually provide that without it impacting your active duty component? And in terms of long term, as we — you’ve been talking about today, what does that mean for potentially training of pilots here in the United States, down in the long run?
Thank you.
SEC. AUSTIN: Thanks, Luis.
I — I’m sure that Ukrainian leadership will be pleased to hear Lavrov’s confirmation of the effectiveness of not only that system, but how they’re using that system. As you know, Russians are currently in Kherson and Zaporizhzhia.
So the — the Russian forces, they’re — they’re there now, so you have to wonder who he’s talking to. There’s — it’s — that’s not a surprise to — to any of us or anybody in Europe or anybody around the globe. I think he’s talking to the people in Russia who have been ill-informed throughout.
You’ve heard us talk — mention this before in terms of what Putin’s objectives are. He has stated a number of times, you know, that this is a limited operations focused on the Donbas. His actions have proven otherwise. And we have known or suspected — not suspected, but known – our allies and partners have known that he has greater ambitions. And Lavrov just confirmed that today.
So, again, no surprise to anybody that’s been a part of this or even watching this remotely, maybe a surprise to the Russian people who Putin has been lying to the entire time.
GEN. MILLEY: So, Luis, let me frame it for you.
This is still a large-scale battle of fires on both sides, although the Ukrainians are using very effective defensive maneuver, as I mentioned earlier. In terms of fires, HIMARS provides you long-range rocket fire with great precision in addition to the 777 155 and the other countries are providing M109 and 155. So that gets you into the 40 kilometer range.
And then you get your 105s and then you come back to your mortars. So you’ve got an echelonment of fires from deep to the close fight. And the Ukrainians have, as I — I think I mentioned this before, Ukrainians have excellent artillery soldiers. Excellent gunners, as the British would call them. And they’re being very, very effective.
To date, the HIMARS that we have provided them – and we’re not the only country, by the way, other countries are providing long-range fires as well. Britain, for example, and some others are donating long-range rocket artillery.
To date, those systems have not been eliminated by the Russians and I knock on wood every time I say something like that. And they’re being very effective at using them, employing precision weapons against targets.
The issue is not so much the system, the actual launcher, the issue will become ammunition and the consumption rates and the amount of weapon — the amount of ammunition that’s fired out of the HIMARS. We are looking at all of that very, very carefully on a day-to-day basis. We advised the secretary where we think the levels of risk are to our own force in terms of our readiness and capability and our equipment.
We think we’re OK right now. And as we project forward into the next month or two or three, we think we’re going to be OK. And we also are tied in very, very closely through the DepSecDef with the industrial base and the production management techniques that we have to continue to produce those weapons systems.
So it’s not so much the launcher, but it’s the ammunition.
Q: And the flight training?
GEN. MILLEY: I’m sorry?
Q: Potential flight training in the United States?
GEN. MILLEY: On the flight training, yes, we — as you know we look at all kinds of options to present to the secretary and the president. And there’s been no decisions on any of that, but we do examine a wide variety of options, to include pilot training.
STAFF: Barb Starr, CNN.
Q: Secretary Austin, could I ask you your assessment of do you — now that Putin has been to Tehran, do you assess that Iran is going to get more involved, that they — that he is going to get Iranian drones as has there been some evidence of? And how would — how do you assess Iran’s involvement in all of this? And the question on flight training, do you have a view on this long-term support, whether it would be an appropriate idea for the U.S. to help train a Ukrainian tactical air force, if you will?
And, Gen. Milley, on the question of this Russian war of attrition, if you will, do you see that — what’s your assessment? Do you see that continuing just forever or do you still have fundamental concerns that Russia could stage some kind of break-out or a sudden escalation and just throw everything at Ukraine even back towards Kyiv at some point, back towards the rest of the country? Are they just going to grind away or do you think they still have deeper, further intentions towards Ukraine?
Thank you both.
SEC. AUSTIN: So, Barb, on the issue of — and thanks for the question.
But on the issue of Iranian support to Russia, we would — we would advise Iran to not — to not do that. We think it’s a really, really bad idea. And I’ll leave that at that.
On the issue of whether or not on the training of Ukrainians to, you know, in terms of pilot training and that sort of thing, certainly, as the chairman said, we’re going to continue to look at, you know, what will be needed now and down the road.
Right now we’re focused on helping them be successful in the fight that they’re in and employing the weapon systems that they need to be successful in that fight. As we give them — provide them more capable weapons systems, more sophisticated weapon systems, it will be important to use those systems properly.
And it will be important to integrate systems to create the effects on a battlefield that prevent opportunities for the — for the Ukrainians. And that will begin to change the dynamics in some cases on the battlefield.
So, you’ve seen them take out — use the HIMARS to take out command and control nodes, ammunition supply points and a number of other things and that affects the tempo of the fight and potentially creates some opportunities here.
So, there’s a lot more to be done. The HIMARS alone will not change or win or lose a fight, but it’s the integration of a number of capabilities that we have provided and are looking at providing down the road. But most importantly, our allies are providing as well. So, we’re looking at a lot of things, everything. But in terms of predicting where we’re going to be with pilot training, in months or years, I won’t venture to do that at this point.
I will say that the Ukrainians do have — their Air Force does have a capability as we speak and are using some of that capability on a daily basis.
GEN. MILLEY: So, Barbara, I — you know, as far as Russian intentions, obviously, we have lots of analysts that look at that on a day-to-day basis. And I’m not going to comment on what I think their future intentions are here at the podium. Except to say that, you know, their past behavior’s been an illegal aggressive war inside Ukraine. And unless stopped, that the aggression unless stopped typically continues. So, but specific aims and objectives that the Russians may have, I’ll remain silent on that.
And in terms of what you asked about could it go in directions of, I think, escalation. Those kinds of terms that you were referring to, we look at it as most likely most dangerous courses of action that an opponent may — an enemy may take. And so, we think of those.
In terms of the most dangerous, of course, there’s — you can — it doesn’t take me at a podium to talk about what they might be, you can figure that out on your own. But there’s possibilities in various domains, geography, weapon systems, et cetera. There’s always a possibility of that.
I can tell you that we look very, very closely at that every single day. We’re in a constant monitoring mode on any forms of escalation by Russia that could have significant impact on the United States, NATO or — or — or Ukraine or anything else. We’re constantly advising the — the secretary to that.
In terms of most likely, though, at this point — and — and this is always subject to — to debate — but at this point, we have a very serious ground — grind — grinding war of attrition going on in the Donbas, and — and unless there’s a breakthrough on either side, which right now the analysts don’t think is particularly likely in the near term, but unless there’s a breakthrough, it’ll probably continue as a grinding war of attrition for a period of time until both sides see an alternative way out of this, perhaps through negotiation or something like that.
But right now, in terms of most likely, most dangerous, that’s kind of the way we’re looking at it. There’s a lot of detail that goes behind that, which I won’t comment on at this point, in terms of the detail, but that’s the broad outline of what we’re looking at.
More at the link!
A Senior Defense Official also provided a background briefing today, but the transcript has not been posted. However, it has been reported by some of those in attendance:
NEW from Senior U.S. Defense Official on the war in #Ukraine:
Russia has committed nearly 85% of its military to the war in Ukraine… It has removed military coverage from other areas on their border and around the world.
— Nick Schifrin (@nickschifrin) July 22, 2022
- Russia is presently launching tens of thousands artillery rounds per day. “They can’t keep it up forever,” the official said. “They have expended a lot of their smarter munitions… Their capabilities are getting dumber.”
- Official adds fight for Donetsk will “likely last through the summer,” with Russia achieving slow gains at high cost. Official says Russia is “using rolling barrages,” but Russia still has not figured out how to use combined arms effectively.
- Official says with the help of HIMARS, Ukraine has taken out more than a hundred “high-value” targets, attacking Russian command posts, ammunition depots, air-defense sites, radar and communications nodes, and long-range artillery positions.
- Russia is taking hundreds of casualties a day. Among Russia’s military fatalities have been “thousands” of lieutenants and captains, “hundreds” of colonels, and “many” generals. “The chain of command is still struggling,” the official said.
Speaking of HIMARS, The Kyiv Independent‘s Illia Ponomarenko took a dive into why they’ve been so effective againast the Russian re-invaders:
Now, HIMARS are also directly challenging Russia’s air defenses, wiping out expensive advanced radars far behind the front lines.
Contrary to its propagandistic bravado, the Russian military has appeared helpless — or at least very vulnerable — to the dozen or so U.S.-provided HIMARS striking the very essence of Russia’s military advantage over Ukraine, becoming an important factor in the war.
And as the latest month of hostilities demonstrates, there’s little Russia can do about it.
Its own systemic flaws, outdated tactics, lack of initiative, and previous failures in the war leave it few chances to confront the American weapons now in Ukrainian hands.
Upon estimates, there are between eight and 12 HIMARS currently on the battlefield in Ukraine. The U.S. on July 20 announced the delivery of four more following the 4th Ramstein meeting of defense ministers. An undisclosed number of M270 MLRS, a similar but heavier truck-mounted system, provided by Western countries, are also already operational in Ukraine, according to Defense Minister Oleksiy Reznikov.
Within just weeks, a few HIMARSs have managed to strip Russia of the majority, if not all of, its most considerable ammunition and fuel depots in Donbas and Ukraine’s occupied south.
With almost every nightfall, videos of massive detonations at Russian depots in Kherson Oblast or Donbas pop up on social media.
The situation has even prompted Russian military bloggers to openly raise alarm about escalating munitions hunger, as Russian artillery supremacy was the key behind its incremental advances in Donbas.
What’s more, the inception of HIMARS has also allowed Ukraine to make use of its old Soviet Tochka-U ballistic missiles, which had been stashed away by the Ukrainian military due to a lack of heavy weaponry. Now that Ukraine has HIMARS, it can afford to use Tochka-U more often.
Tochka-U systems have an effective range of up to 100 kilometers and are more powerful than HIMARS, but far less precise and much easier to intercept. The Tochkas and HIMARS are spearheading the ongoing campaign to strike deep inside the Russian-held rear.
Russia also appears to be incapable of quickly de-concentrating its depots, which could save its munitions in the occupied parts of Ukraine. The Russian military has held on to the outdated Soviet approach of having a hyper-centralized command and control system that doesn’t allow for much initiative from medium- and low-rank leaders.
When it comes to ammunition handling, the Russian military is still very dependent on manual labor as soldiers have to load and unload thousands of ammo bundles as they arrive. Russian logistics still fall short of effective communications and automatization, lacking working hands and competent mid-level commanders to cope with a much more complicated depot network.
Moreover, Russian supply lines depend on railway communications, which inevitably keeps them bound to railway stations and junctions. Russian military bloggers have admitted that switching to a more flexible system would take months or even years, which is not a viable solution during the ongoing war.
Russians could make their depots safer by relocating them farther away from the front line.
The high-precision M30/M31 GMLRS rockets used by Ukrainian HIMARS have an effective range of some 85 kilometers. Therefore, locating their depots beyond this dangerous effective range would be the answer to the problem. But by pulling them back, Russia is also greatly complicating its already very problematic logistics.
Russian trucks would have to make it 90 or 100, or even 120 kilometers, to bring supplies to frontline units from dumps instead of the more usual 20 or 30 kilometers. This would take much more time, fuel, and even more manual labor.
According to standard practice, a truck could complete just one round trip daily between a frontline unit and a supply depot located beyond the HIMARS effective range 90 kilometers away from the front line. Withdrawing to new loading areas at safe railroad centers in southern Ukraine would render Russian delivery time between one and a half to two times slower than usual.
But Russia’s military keeps running short of trucks, and truck drivers were killed in huge numbers during Russia’s early offensive deep inside Ukraine. According to the open source project Oryx documenting Russian war losses, the Russian military has lost at least 1,254 supply trucks and fuel tankers.
Even if they are eventually relocated farther away from the front line, Russian depots would still be threatened by Ukrainian Tochka-U missiles, which have already swept off some of Russia’s most giant ammo dumps in Donbas, such as the one in the city of Khrustalniy (formerly Krasniy Luch) in Luhansk Oblast on June 18.
Should Ukraine be finally provided with 300-kilometer ATACMS missiles, the situation will become even more complicated for Russia.
Another issue is that over the last month, despite a lot of effort and propaganda buzz, Russia’s defenses against the HIMARS have hardly been effective.
During a Pentagon briefing on July 20, U.S. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark Milley, confirmed that Russia had not destroyed a single HIMARS provided to Ukraine. The top general also reiterated that the Ukrainian military had been “very effective” at using them against Russia.
A HIMARS is indeed a challenging target for today’s Russian military.
Fast and very mobile, they take their positions deeper in the Ukrainian-controlled rear, where Russia still has a rather weak situational awareness and where they are very hard to spot and kill immediately, even with high-precision weapons. According to experts polled by the Kyiv Independent, the only realistic chance for Russia to destroy the HIMARS is to strike when a Ukrainian crew fails to leave its position quickly, or when it exposes its location.
The Russian air force could also be a serious threat. But as these last months of war have demonstrated, Russian attack aircraft have been cautious about going any deeper into Ukrainian-controlled territory, mainly due to strong air defense and the abundance of man-portable anti-aircraft systems (MANPADS), including those provided by the West.
Even advanced Russian air defense systems find it hard or impossible to intercept incoming HIMARS rockets.
Russia’s much-advertised S-400 or Pantsir-S1 air defense systems, which have been deployed in occupied Ukraine, have not been effective at stopping them over the last few weeks. Russia’s S-300 or S-400 systems are supposed to be able to successfully intercept medium- and long-range aerodynamic (cruise missiles) or ballistic targets.
But the problem is that HIMARS’ rockets are very hard to notice on time.
HIMARS M30/M31 GMLRS rockets strike their targets at the speed of Mach 2.5, or nearly 3,062.6 kilometers per hour. Therefore, when they have to reach a target 80 kilometers away, they spend some 94 seconds in the air before they hit their target. But they also fly at altitudes far lower than any cruise or ballistic missile, giving Russian air defense little time to notice them and react.
This means Ukrainian-operated HIMARSs continue delivering strikes anywhere they can reach.
Especially when the Ukrainian military overcharges Russian air defenses with barrages of Tochka-U, Uragan, or Smerch rounds — and then shoots a full salvo of HIMARS to get a guaranteed hit.
Much more at the link!
It also helps that the Fellas – that is the North Atlantic Fellas Organization (NAFO) – are on the job!
Bass way up of course, just do it pic.twitter.com/CLM95eFMDj
— 🇺🇦Chief Chungus (@GoatlockerChief) July 20, 2022
HIMARS!!!!!
For those not following, a number of actively serving Americans and US veterans on Twitter picked up a meme put out by a member of the Ukrainian Forces that was adapted from the long standing shiba inu meme and began to use it to troll Russia’s ambassador to the US, other Russian officials on social media, and to raise money to support the Ukrainian war effort. They quickly began to call themselves the Fellas, because the main character is a self declared “silly little Fella”. They have been so successful in their social media Information Warfare that they’ve actually driven the Russian ambassador to the US off Twitter. Here’s a link to the fund they’ve set up to support Ukrainian Forces, specifically the Georgian Legion. You can also buy Fellas stuff from the folks at St. Javelin.
Well this can’t be good:
— Olena Halushka (@OlenaHalushka) July 21, 2022
I think that’s enough for tonight.
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Open thread!
persistentillusion
Thank you for continuing your efforts to keep us informed.
featheredsprite
Thank you, Adam. Loved the Fellas!
Alison Rose 💙🌻💛
I kinda want to get another pet and name it HIMAR. Maybe a hamster.
“Their capabilities are getting dumber” = rotating tag.
One thing I’ve been struck by starting probably from the push for EU candidacy, and continuing now, is how much Zelenskyy is opening up Ukraine’s relationships around the world. He often will tweet about conversations he’s had with various leaders, noting that sometimes it is the first time the leaders of the two nations have spoken, that there have never been real diplomatic connections between them. Many of these have been in Central and South America, and I think also some in Africa. It’s just really incredible to see all of this advancement and elevation happen in real time, particularly while russia thinks they’re going to, I don’t know, make the world collectively forget Ukraine exists? But all of these newly-forged, or at least greatly strengthened connections, along with the EU candidacy and just the fight and determination and patriotism of the highest order…I really think no matter how things go, history will show that Zelenskyy was a pivotal and hugely important figure in the country’s wider story.
Would be fun to take a time machine back about a decade and explain that to him :)
Thank you as always, Adam.
Sister Inspired Revolver of Freedom
I do not trust this grain export deal. At all. In fact, the whole “deal” fills me with the worst kind of foreboding. Of course, I hope I’m wrong.
Thank you as always, Adam.
Glory to Ukraine!🌻
Chetan Murthy
@Sister Inspired Revolver of Freedom: Ilovaisk redux.
Sister Inspired Revolver of Freedom
@Chetan Murthy: I don’t know what you’re referring to. Please explain?
Chetan Murthy
@Sister Inspired Revolver of Freedom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ilovaisk
Chetan Murthy
@Sister Inspired Revolver of Freedom: oops, too many links.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ilovaisk
RU perfidy, in short. Fuckers can’t be trusted to keep an agreement.
Villago Delenda Est
If they’re losing a lot of company grade officers, they’re in very deep shit. There are no NCOs around to pick up the slack. The troops are leaderless. Ukraine can exploit this in many ways.
caphilldcne
I watched that first video as an act of witness. Murderers.
I do not want to confuse issues but it made me think of Tamir Rice.
We must oppose fascism from Russia. And we must oppose it here. And none of this is ok.
Villago Delenda Est
The grain export deal won’t last long. Russia doesn’t care if blah people in Africa starve.
Traveller
I have a few thoughts on this Friday evening….most evenings, actually, but today is Friday…lol
Be that as it may, I often think that all things considered, the war is going as well or even better than could be expected…but then Sergi Lavrov comes out and seemingly says, with some confidence, Russia wants and will take several more provinces….am I crazy or is it Sergi’s hair that’s on fire? That this question is open is distressing.
Fires map looks promising and fun to play with
https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/#t:adv;d:2022-07-22;@33.9,47.2,9z
But to keep this moderately short, what really kind of depressed me today was two articles from The Drive/War Zone….the 1st is a fairly deep look at the Super Drones, the US Golden Hawk and NATO’s RQ-4D, and these are such magnificent human constructions…the design, the capabilities, everything is…almost beyond imagining. Take a look:
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/inside-the-nato-alliances-rq-4d-phoenix-drone-operations
And the other is, maybe of course, the mechanical dog with a machine gun on its back, (as inaccurate as the current version may seem, still distressing)
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/this-submachine-gun-equipped-robot-dog-goes-full-john-wick-at-shooting-range
The dominant take away thought for me from these two items was, as much as I may wish for a total victory in Ukraine….if we just invested as much ingenuity in saving ourselves and our planet as we do in the tools of war, Maybe, just maybe, mankind would stand a change of getting out of this century alive.
Best Wishes, Traveller
Andrya
@Chetan Murthy: I agree that ru cannot be trusted, but I’m kind of baffled as to their motivation here. Presumably the ships carrying grain for export will be internationally flagged, not Ukrainian. Surely even putin realizes that sinking cargo ships with various non-Ukrainian flags (and after a guarantee of safe passage) would sink russia’s reputation even lower than it is? And royally piss off Erdogan, who has kind of a pivotal position in all this?
On the other hand, why would putin authorize anything that brought money into the Ukrainian economy? He’s certainly not concerned about famine- in fact, from his point of view it’s potential leverage to get a deal to partially obtain his objectives.
I’m baffled.
Chetan Murthy
@Andrya:
Dunno, but anything that makes UA look more unreliable, would seem to be in Putin’s interest. And of course, Putin’s ships won’t be sunk, b/c UA aren’t monsters.
Mike in NC
Looking for a bunch of Russian generals fresh scalps.
Another Scott
@Andrya: I assume he’s thinking that he can play World Savior the way he tried to do with the Sputnik COVID vaccine. With its claimed higher efficacy over the western mRNA technology, with a tiny (not statistically significant) trial, but with the unfortunate little issue of contamination and so forth… (groucho-roll-eyes.gif)
IOW, it’s another attempt by VVP to undercut the West and show that he’s the good guy to the rest of the world. The actual reality doesn’t matter to him as much as the press release.
I don’t think it will be successful, but if there are ways to get more grain out of Ukraine’s ports in the near-term, that’s a good thing.
(Ultimately, VVP must be defeated.)
My $0.02.
Cheers,
Scott.
Chetan Murthy
I’ve been mulling over why UA went along with this. And my conclusion is that it’s just as with all the “peace/ceasefire talks”: UA knows RU isn’t serious, but they also know that they must not be seen as the “dog in the manger”: that role must always be for RU. So UA has to participate.
Sister Inspired Revolver of Freedom
@Chetan Murthy: Totes agree! Same thing happened at Mariupol. I think this is a strategy to get at Odessa, which is currently too heavily defended, & which is too far from the Russians’ current lines for them to attack easily. But it might provide an opening for whatever Russian forces stationed in Transnistria to attack. I guess we’ll see. FWIW Prime Minister Trudeau has already publicly stated that he & our government don’t trust Russia, at all. Good.
frosty
Really! Who knew? I doubt that he did, but I’ve never seen a leader rise to the occasion like this. It’s inspiring.
“I don’t need a ride, I need ammunition.”
ETA I’m hoping he’s a pivotal figure in world history, not just Ukraine history.
Chetan Murthy
@frosty: If you knew that you’d be called to this horrific and personally dangerous task in 10yr, would you continue on your current course, or change things to avoid it. In short, rush to Samarra. It would take a very, very brave person to not try to avoid it, I think.
Grumpy Old Railroader
Adam,
I would value your opinion on U.S.A. handing some A10 Warthogs to Ukraine. I have been reading some discussion threads on the pros and cons of the A10 and am unsure if the A10 has what it needs to survive (manpads) and be an effective tool for close air support and as the crack tank killer that it is touted as.
Jinchi
Well they have been encouraging the Ukrainians to de-mine the approaches to Odessa.
Chetan Murthy
@Jinchi:
I can't imagine how that could help Putin's invasion fleet.
Bill Arnold
@Sister Inspired Revolver of Freedom:
Sergey Lavrov and others have been talking up historical Russia/Africa cooperation. There are many who disagree, but as an argument it’s more connected to reality than most of what Mr. Lavrov has been spouting the last several months.
.ru web site, that resolves to a Russian IP address, just fair warning:
Article by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Sergey Lavrov for the Egyptian newspaper Al-Ahram, the Congolese Dispatch de Brazzaville, the Ugandan New Vision, as well as the Ethiopian Ethiopia Herald, July 22, 2022 Snippet:
This suggests to me (my p estimate > 0.75) that the Russians (or at least the Russian MFA) intend to abide by the grain shipment agreement. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were an “accident” with a (Russian) mine or similar, and if Russia continues to hit Ukrainian civilian targets with surface-fleet-launched cruise missiles, those ships might be justifiably hit in retaliation, and there are a few other obvious ways the agreement could be prodded to break down.
via https://twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1550344711914897410
Bill Arnold
@Chetan Murthy:
Zelenskyy, above:
The Harpoons and other improved coastal defenses are respectable.
Jay
@Grumpy Old Railroader:
in 2017, the USAF decided that the A-10 fleet will be kept in service, indefinitely, as there is nothing the USAF has, or will have, that can match the A-10 for capabilities or combat survivability.
Ukraine won’t be getting A-10’s.
Carlo Graziani
16 HIMARS. That’s news. The previous number was 12 by end of July, and the Russians were already shitting themselves.
Most likely date for a southern counteroffensive (or at least most “traditional”) seems to me likely new moon, either July 27 (3:17 AM rise, 2% lunar illumination) or 28 (4:17 AM rise 0.3% illumination). Darkness generally rewards surprise and initiative, but I would also surmise that NATO-standard night vision equipment has been requested and furnished in large quantities (no evidence).
Carlo Graziani
@Carlo Graziani: Civil twilight ends at 8:53 PM on July 27, 8:51 on July 28. Ukraine is in GMT+3, 7 hours ahead of Eastern Daylight Time.
tavella
@Chetan Murthy: I don’t know, someone asked him more or less that question at Stanford, and he was more amused at the thought than anything. I don’t know if it was him pondering the hijinks his 20 year old self got up to, or contemplating trying to explain the whole movie star, President, war hero career path to his college self.
Amir Khalid
This is very late for the thread, but I don’t think anyone will be surprised to learn that Russia is already launching missiles at Odesa again.
topclimber
One reason Russia may respect this deal is that it also eases sanctions on the exports of their grain and fertilizer. Good news for millions more food-short folks around the world.
Hopefully, the deal holds. If it does, it offers a method of negotiation (through a third party, rather than face to face, which Ukrainians understandably abhor) on the off chance Ukraine doesn’t actually oust Russia from every inch of its territory.
Geminid
@Amir Khalid: As the article notes, the missile strikes clearly contradict the grain export agreement. Last licks? or the beginning of a sustained effort to derail the deal? I guess we’ll find out soon.
One salient point in the briefings by US DOD officials was that Russian situational awareness of matters behind the front lines is deficient, in part because of effective Ukrainian anti-air assets. Ukraine has very good information at least in the south through their civilians and partisan forces. Both sides can make use of satellite surveillance and I’m guessing that the information the US provides Ukraine is of higher quality.
The UA’s ability to destroy Russian anti-air assets could be very important if and when Ukraine mounts a robust counteroffensive in the south. Russia has dug in along that front but it’s forces are spread thinly. A defense in depth requires motivated troops holding on to strong points and a mobile reserve to back them up. Morale will be key here, and loss of control of the airspace can be demoralizing beyond the physical effects of airstrikes.
The Russians do not have a lot of depth to defend on the southern front, and control behind the front lines is compromised by the Ukrainian special forces and partisans operating there. The Russian position from Kherson east along the Azov coast may be very vulnerable.
Geminid
@topclimber: Are Russian exports of grain and fertilizer restricted by western sanctions? I’ve read that they are not, and that the US has been supplying shippers letters of “comfort” (a legal term) to this effect.
Gin & Tonic
@Amir Khalid:
Yup. That answers Adam’s question:
Gin & Tonic
@Geminid:
topclimber
@Geminid: I read the article I linked to as meaning that. Maybe it has to do with sanctions on ships rather than cargoes. Or Perhaps what held up Russian grain and ammonia exports is Ukrainian military action?
Few articles actually mention what Russia got out of the deal, much less explain why they wanted it.
Villago Delenda Est
Well, so much for that. Odesa has been attacked with cruise missiles. Wow, less than 24 hours after the agreement was signed. Hitler at least gave the agreement with Stalin 20 months!
Alison Rose 💙🌻💛
@Gin & Tonic: Honestly……..this just makes me want to cry. I hate Putin so much.
Jinchi
@Gin & Tonic: Yup. Putin signals what he really thinks about the deal his own government agreed to hours earlier. He’s just a genocidal troll.
Chetan Murthy
@Jinchi: @Alison Rose 💙🌻💛: @Gin & Tonic:
This seemed on-target. Like you all, I’m surprised-not-surprised, and continue to be angry.
Chetan Murthy
@Geminid: I’m not any sort of expert in these things, but I thought those “letters of comfort” were for all the financial institutions that back up the various links in the chain-of-money that goes alongside the chain-of-ships, for ocean-borne trade. One could easily imagine that insurers and lenders would balk at involving themselves in trade in Russian grain, simply b/c of the war and US/EU/NATO sanctions. They might rightly wonder if someday a week or two from today, those ships might be sanctioned, and forced to hang out in international waters, unable to unload, for months. Such a letter from the US Govt would settle those qualms.
Perhaps.
Geminid
@Chetan Murthy: I guess the question is whether Russian grain and fertilizer exports are in fact sanctioned or not. If not, then whether the U.S. is taking steps to make sure that shippers and financing entities are not inhibited. I guess these questions bear looking into.
Chetan Murthy
@Geminid: Obviously I don’t actually know, and am only speculating. By way of analogy, I’ve read over the last year, that many banks in other Western countries do not accept accounts from Americans, and some (e.g. in France) are closing existing accounts, b/c of the FATCA reporting requirements: they simply don’t want to deal with the hassle. It’s not forbidden, but enough of a pain that they get out of the business.
This has been a big problem for “accidental Americans” — e.g. French people born in the US by accident, but since then having no ties to the US whatsoever.
What I’m saying is, it’s possible that the USG giving these comfort letters is actual aid to Russian commerce in grain, even in the absence of official sanctions.
Geminid
@Chetan Murthy: Reuters has at least one article about this question. The US Treasury Department emphasized recently that Russian exports of grain and fertilizer are not subject to sanctions. This was in connection with the negotiations to make Ukrainian shipments possible, and a Russian grain export council expressed its appreciation to the US.