I *want* this shirt — anybody know how I might acquire one, without a facebook / instagram account?
Lmaooooo pic.twitter.com/B8yugpUgWe
— Darmok and Jalad go to Whitecastle (@Danofran) July 22, 2022
?? ?? ?? let's all remember that this is the guy who was complaining about how men are no longer manly. Y'all remember that? #HawlinAss https://t.co/U5XAOgkiwm
— Ryan Wiggins ????? (@Ryan_N_Wiggins) July 22, 2022
Josh Hawley running away to a variety of soundtracks.
Pt. 1: Chariots of Fire #January6thCommitteeHearing pic.twitter.com/tVCf2R5tUD
— Mallory Nees (@The_Mal_Gallery) July 22, 2022
Hawley: Who are you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?
Officer Michael Fanone:
“Josh Hawley is a bitch, and he ran like a bitch"General Honore’:
“Hold my beer.” pic.twitter.com/NZ214PGVep— Jillian Hurley 🌻 (@JillianSaysNow) July 22, 2022
David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
Bingo (link)
David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
I have found the people who scream loudest of morality are the big sinners.
Remember how all the republicans screaming about Bill Clinton having an affair were the most immoral people themselves: Gingrich, Starr, Livingston, Hastert (pedophile), O’Reilly (sexual assault), Limbaugh (drug addict), etc.
No you have Hawley screaming about masculinity, but in reality was the biggest coward of them all.
Anne Laurie
@David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: Thank you!
NotMax
Ruh roh.
//
Liminal (Never deny, rarely affirm, always distinguish) Owl
@David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:
Drug addicts are not “the most immoral people.”
Rush Limpdick wasn’t evil because he was an addict, nor Josh Lord Haw Haw because he is less “masculine.” (And it isn’t even cowardly to run from a bloodthirsty mob, unless you have a job that involves standing and fighting to protect others—say, an Uvalde LEO.)
Rush was evil because he was a hatemonger and a lying hypocrite.
Senator Hawlass is evil because he us a hatemonger and a supporter of fascism.
satby
@Liminal (Never deny, rarely affirm, always distinguish) Owl: I think the immorality was in the lying, hypocrisy, and projections into others of their own faults. Rather than abiding by the code laid down by the Christian faith they all claim to be adherents of to “First take the beam out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye”.
Edit: agree with your assessment of their evil.
satby
Not on topic: I have a dilemma and wish Gin&Tonic was around. I signed up with welcome USA to potentially be a sponsor for Ukrainian refugees under the humanitarian parole offered. I’ve had three people write to me asking if I would sponsor them; obviously I can’t sponsor all of them. If G&T happens to see this, could you email me at my skinluvvers (at) gmail (dot) com address? I would value some input.
Lapassionara
In a just world, Hawley would never be able to show his face in public again. Instead, he will double down, a la Trump, and be rewarded for it.
satby
@Lapassionara: I think we forget that just because he’s not in jail so far, TFG is not a happy person leading a happy life (not that he never was). The contempt, the derision, the fact that so many people have just moved on from paying any attention to him at all: sheer hell for the guy. Long may that hell continue and worsen!
satby
@Lapassionara: like Rick Santorum, Hawley will be a has been.
Liminal Owl
@satby: Thank you for the comment. It still seems to me that David *The Establishment* Koch’s wording strongly implied that drug addicts are per se immoral, and in my view that’s an important cultural notion to push back against. Addicts need treatment, not shaming and not jail.
(Shaming, and when appropriate jail, for behavior secondary to the addiction. I’m 100% in support of that. But not for the addiction itself.)
(eta: and I apologize for using an epithet for Rush that violates my own principles. It was the best I could do at 3 a.m.)
Kropacetic
Will have been?
Baud
@satby:
You is good people.
MagdaInBlack
Apropos of nuthin: It is pouring out here in the Chi NW suburbs. Quite the storm.
Good Morning 😊
Kropacetic
This is true for people with drug addiction generally. Limbaugh regularly professed disdain for drug users and was rather eager for *poor* drug users to face ever more dire consequences for having a problem.
This was his own stated morality, bleated into cars across the nation. But I guess if you have enough money that the mortgage will be paid no matter what and enough clout that cops will generally look the other way, these “morals” don’t apply.
Liminal Owl
@Kropacetic: Sure. As I said, it’s the lies and hypocrisy that disgust me.
RedDirtGirl
@Liminal (Never deny, rarely affirm, always distinguish) Owl: agreed. Was going to say the same thing. It’s the hypocrisy that gets to me.
Running from the mob is a rational response. Continuing to uphold the big lie is not.
Kropacetic
He was just making targets easier to discern. Surely they weren’t there to hurt him.
Mimi
@MagdaInBlack: It woke me up too. I’m hoping it’ll lower the humidity.
The Thin Black Duke
Watching the mob trash the Capitol on TV, something occured to me: when those white assholes are screaming about Making America Great Again, what they’re talking about are the Good Old Days when lynching was a sport more popular than baseball. The gallows was the cherry on top.
satby
@Baud: only if I can actually help.
satby
@MagdaInBlack: I have been waiting for those storms, but they keep sliding just north of us. We’re getting a bit of light rain and a lot of thunder and lightning. Still pretty dark at almost 7am, so I’m still hoping for a drencher.
Oh YAY, heavy rain just started! I had no idea how much I would appreciate rain until I started trying to garden on a sand dune.
MagdaInBlack
@Mimi: Accuweather says 91 with a “real feel” of 100…..I’ll be staying in today.
mrmoshpotato
@David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: Yup. Hypocritical bastards.
topclimber
@RedDirtGirl: What makes the running funny is its direct connection to the earlier militant cosplay. “Go get ’em guys” was not supposed to have any risk of him becoming one of the ’em.
mrmoshpotato
@MagdaInBlack: It was absolutely DUMPING on the north side! ⛈️🥰
Immanentize
Well, I knew this day would come.
Steeplejack
@Immanentize:
Happy birthday! 🎊🎈🎉🎂🥂
Immanentize
@Steeplejack: thanks, but can we please invent yadhtribs? Which is when your age starts decreasing each year?
In other news, I am seriously considering some land and a beat up farm house in Upstate NY — on the Northside of Lake Oneida in the woods. West of Rome. Any comments about such a crazy thing?
Immanentize
@mrmoshpotato: We are scorched here near Boston. 90s today, maybe over 100 tomorrow. My front lawn has gone dormant, but I’m keeping my garden hydrated. Picked the rest of my garlic crop yesterday.
Liminal Owl
@Immanentize: Happy birthday!
evodevo
@Immanentize: How much money you got? LOL – the movie “The Money Pit” wasn’t kidding…
HinTN
@Immanentize: Any notion of how big a money pit the beat up house might be? Internet connectivity/speed requirements? Et cetera. I love living in the country but it’s a different set of equations to solve
ETA – I see @evodevo: got there first.
Ken
@satby: @Kropacetic: Hang on, somewhere around here I have a copy of “Grammar for Time Travelers”….
zhena gogolia
@RedDirtGirl: The point is he GINNED UP THE MOB with his salute — so watching him run from them is exquisitely hilarious. It’s the juxtaposition that’s humorous, not the running. Pence running is not humorous.
zhena gogolia
@The Thin Black Duke: When the poll worker Shaye (can’t remember last name) said one of the threats to her was “Be glad it’s 2020 and not 1920,” a chill went down my spine.
Miss Bianca
@Immanentize: I was looking at upstate NY a while back in the Zillow-zooming frenzy that seemingly *everyone* was going through at the same time. Some really nice horse properties with indoor arenas, etc, all for less than what the Mountain Hacienda in which I currently reside would be selling for (my county was the fastest-growing in CO last year, lucky us!).
Two things I found a little daunting to consider dealing with would be the winter weather (I’ve become so spoiled by the climate in the mountains here that I think getting used to lake effect snow and bone-chill again would be…a challenge.) And property taxes are much steeper out east than in CO.
Oh, and bugs. And humidity. Other than that, I thought upstate NY would probably be the best bang for the buck on the east coast.
eversor
@Liminal (Never deny, rarely affirm, always distinguish) Owl:
I disagree. I’m with Fanone on this. If you summon up a mob on your side and then run the fuck away from this you’re a limp dicked, no nuts, pussy ass, little bitch, coward. And if you’re going to hold your ass up, peacock, and flex like you’re some kind of avatar of masculinity than it’s fine to hurl gendered insults at you no matter who gets offended because that’s what will sting the most.
Every guy who’s been any sort of remotely violent or idiotic situation knows the golden rule of “if you don’t want shit don’t start shit”. Everyone knows “that guy” who starts shit at bars and can’t fight and either runs the away or his friends have to bail him out of it and nobody likes that guy, not even his friends.
How Josh Hawley went through life not learning a lesson most of us figure out in elementary school (even if you aren’t the one who got their ass beat or delivered a beating you sure as hell saw one happen) is beyond me. I grew up in the same social strata as him and I saw it happen all the time. He was probably one of those freaks that never got in a scrap but sat on the side jeering and rooting on for the bully then got his girlfriend drunk and date raped her. So there, Josh Hawley is a rapist bitch and let him prove otherwise, he won’t because he’s a coward.
This is one of the reasons we lose. It’s funny when people whine (not saying you do, but the general liberal left) that our leaders don’t fight but then spin around and say “you can’t say that you’ll offend group XYZ” or “well, technically he’s not really an XYZ” because that’s refusing to fight and giving up.
The catch is mocking Hawley as a treasonus sack of shit is correct, and that’s the real offense here, but those words won’t sting him or his supporters and they sure as hell won’t hurt him. Turning “Hawlin Hawley”, “coward”, and “Josh Hawley is a bitch, and he ran like a bitch” into a punch line and a meme? That’s going to hurt him and his supporters. Got to his events and chant “run bitch run” and laugh at it all, doesn’t make you an asshole because anybody with half a sense of humor will see it.
It’s like Russiagate all over again. The only thing Trump cared about the allegation that he was so humilated by Obama he paid for hookers to pee on him. It doesn’t matter if it wasn’t true. It doesn’t matter that the treason was worse. The right play wasn’t “Trump is a traitor and loves Putin”, the right play was “Trump got cucked by Obama in public and likes to jack off while getting pissed on, wears adult diapers, and wears heel lifting shoes like a hooker”.
Nothing hurts fascists like getting mocked as the things they look down on. That’s their fear. Josh Hawley’s entire masculinity act is because he knows he’s a cowardly ass bitch and is scared of being seen as the effeminate man he is. So that’s where you punch him. And while someone will say “it’s wrong to mock effeminate men so we can’t do that I say bullshit. Not only is that giving up and letting Hawley skate free, effeminate men won’t care. They are some of the toughest, roughest, thick skinned people out there because they had to be. And all of them would laugh their collective asses off at some fake tough guy getting hurt by being called a bitch boy and running away from a fight, cause they ain’t that!
/end rant
/spoken as a guy who got picked on by types like Hawley growing up and hung out with all the nerds and the queers and was the one of the group who always got into the scrap. All of a sudden spiked to six feet two hundred pounds of muscle after working out and it never happened again. Then after enlisting in the military and coming back to DC I see the same assholes and they are all Hawleys and the shit that freaks them out the most is when you mock their masculinity in front of other people. They’re too thin skinned to laugh it off.
Soprano2
@eversor: I agree. I wish a reporter had the guts to ask Hawley why he didn’t stay in the Senate chamber to greet the insurrectionists since he so publicly egged them on and agreed with them. No one will ever ask him that, though. This is a man who literally said he wouldn’t use the attorney general’s office to climb the ladder to higher office, and then proceeded to do exactly that! He has no political shame.
zhena gogolia
@Soprano2: He is so despicable. I read something by a Yale law professor who talked about how he would keep disrupting her class with rude interventions.
Parfigliano
@eversor: Absolutely right.
RaflW
Did Josh intend to have his mug listed as “Show me strong white”? Questions must be asked.
Liminal Owl
@Immanentize: Ask Merlin about yadhtribs. I don’t know of any other sources.
WaterGirl
@Immanentize: I would suggest that you consider using something other than base-10 when you say how old you are.
Let’s say that you are 55 in the conventional base-10.
If you choose to use base-11 to count your birthdays, then when you tell people you are 50, it’s not your fault if they made an assumption that you were using base-10.
Let’s say you’re 60 in base-10. Base-11 would have you at 55. Base-12 would have you at 50.
Not suggesting that you are either of those ages, just using them as examples.
Chacal Charles Calthrop
@eversor: A most righteous rant. Thank you!
jonas
@Immanentize:
It’s a nice area — lots of state forest land, fishing creeks, etc. Just prepare to be surrounded by raging Trumpers.
SFAW
@Immanentize:
Doesn’t mistermix live up that way? And maybe DougJ as well? My crappy memory says they’re both closer to Rochester than to Syracuse/Oneida, but they may still have some insights. If I’m correct, that is.
jonas
@Soprano2:
A complete and utter lack of shame seems to be a feature, not a bug, for Republicans these days. See too Stefanik, Elise.
J R in WV
@zhena gogolia:
But really, Pence and his team didn’t run at all, they moved quickly and purposefully — you could even say there was some scurrying.
But no running like Josh Evildrawers did. That was full tilt as fast as he could go.
Dopey-o
Any chance you recall who the professor was, what subject area was involved? I truly hope it was Criminal Law, taught by a grade school classmate from Missouri.
When her husband was short-listed for the Supreme Court, the entire 8th grade class at our little parochial school petitioned Obama to “Nominate Kate.”
Brilliant, super-decent woman. Just the kind Josh would bully and demean.
Another Scott
@zhena gogolia: The thing that always got me about his fist salute is that it was instantly obvious that he was going the other way. It’s a “let’s you and him fight” thing. All cosplay from a distance until he was in danger and then he ran away as fast as his legs would carry him.
Cheers,
Scott.
Tehanu
@eversor: Wish I could disagree with you, but I can’t. Expecting Rethuglican politicians and their supporters to care about policy or abstract ideas (like “treason” or “Justice”) is a waste of time. Even calling them hypocrites doesn’t shame them because they literally can’t understand why their hypocrisy is bad. But I also think that just mocking them isn’t enough. We have to show, not tell, how their cowardice and cruelty hurts people in real life.