Here’s something mildly amusing from NBC News:
WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden will host former President Barack Obama and Michelle Obama at the White House in early September for the unveiling of their official White House portraits, according to an Obama spokesperson.
The traditional East Room ceremony unveiling the Obamas’ portraits, usually a moment where the sitting president and the first lady fête their immediate predecessors, was put off while then-President Donald Trump was in office given
the bitter, estranged relationship between the two menthat Obama’s successor is a malevolent lunatic who had spread racist lies about his predecessor.
Fixed it for them. It brought to mind Michelle Obama’s words shortly after the last presidential election, when voters kicked Trump’s racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic ass out of the White House:
This week, I’ve been reflecting a lot on where I was four years ago. Hillary Clinton had just been dealt a tough loss by a far closer margin than the one we’ve seen this year. I was hurt and disappointed—but the votes had been counted and Donald Trump had won. The American people had spoken. And one of the great responsibilities of the presidency is to listen when they do. So my husband and I instructed our staffs to do what George and Laura Bush had done for us: run a respectful, seamless transition of power—one of the hallmarks of American democracy. We invited the folks from the president-elect’s team into our offices and prepared detailed memos for them, offering what we’d learned over the past eight years.
I have to be honest and say that none of this was easy for me. Donald Trump had spread racist lies about my husband that had put my family in danger. That wasn’t something I was ready to forgive. But I knew that, for the sake of our country, I had to find the strength and maturity to put my anger aside. So I welcomed Melania Trump into the White House and talked with her about my experience, answering every question she had—from the heightened scrutiny that comes with being First Lady to what it’s like to raise kids in the White House.
I knew in my heart it was the right thing to do—because our democracy is so much bigger than anybody’s ego. Our love of country requires us to respect the results of an election even when we don’t like them or wish it had gone differently—the presidency doesn’t belong to any one individual or any one party. To pretend that it does, to play along with these groundless conspiracy theories—whether for personal or political gain—is to put our country’s health and security in danger. This isn’t a game. So I want to urge all Americans, especially our nation’s leaders, regardless of party, to honor the electoral process and do your part to encourage a smooth transition of power, just as sitting presidents have done throughout our history.
Emphasis mine. Of course, we know what happened next.
Some people — most people, even — don’t have Ms. Obama’s level of class and patriotism, and certainly no one connected with Donald Trump does. But anyway, it’ll be good to see Ms. Obama back in the White House for a visit. According to NBC, it’ll be her first since January 20, 2017.
Open thread.
Leto
Michelle is continually demonstrating that she’s a better human than I ever will be. I’m glad they’re both finally getting their deserved portrait presentation by another fundamentally decent human being.
Baud
Interesting symmetry between Trump’s petulance with regard to Obamas’ portraits and the Republicans’ petulance on the veterans bill.
Ruckus
@Leto:
This. A thousand times this.
A Man for All Seasonings (formerly Geeno)
@Leto: Agreed. I cannot even aspire to the level of poise the Forever FLOTUS has.
Roger Moore
@Baud:
For some people, petulance is a way of life.
Spanky
Scary news for Halloween:
Benw
The Obamas fucking kick ass. Just amazing people, we’re lucky to have them
Ruckus
@Baud:
Are you trying to say the words “Damned Whippersnappers”? Or at least something to that respect?
Old School
So is TFG coming back for his and Melania’s portraits?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I wonder if Norm-Respecting Joe will invite the trumps, make a public offer to see it crassly refused on “Truth Social”
I wonder about those originals words making it to the final, published draft, if some editor Broderized it, or if as whatever Broder Junior Leaguer having typed it passed it up the chain ever thought, “that’s not really how it was, but…”
I forget which ex-trumper I saw on TV recently, maybe the assistant deputy whatever who sold himself as anonymous, confirming what we all know, Obama drives trump crazy, occupies a huge room in that bat-infested belfry
Mike in NC
Maybe Jim Carrey will agree to do the official portrait of the Fat Orange Clown. He did a decent job of painting Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
NotMax
Will Dolt 45’s official portrait depict him bestriding the globe a la ol’ Willy?
Old School
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Jinx.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Baud: not just the veterans bill
ETA: It’s like the post facto filibuster, or something
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I mean, I assumed that would have been filibustered anyway. What 10 Republicans would have signed on to that? (I know it got some Republican support in the House, but I don’t see it in the Senate.
ETA: Even if it would have passed, we can’t be held hostage to the GOP.
Dangerman
@Old School: Trumps Portrait is already in the WH. It’s on a roll in the bathrooms.
Baud
@Old School:
I don’t think the federal prisons do furloughs.
Ken
@Spanky: This will turn out to be because Hershey shuttered one of their chocolate refineries during the pandemic, and decided not to open it again afterward because they could make more money by limiting the supply.
In response, pundits will insist that the government has to fly in shipments of European chocolate. (At which Hershey will react in horror, knowing what might happen to their market if more people got a taste of the real stuff.)
WaterGirl
@Spanky: Maybe people will have to learn to eat good chocolate, you know, the kind that doesn’t have the consistency of wax.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Spanky:
Better stock up now; they’re already out now in stores
Betty Cracker
I find it nauseating to think that someday Trump and the Third Lady’s portraits will hang in the White House. But thanks to approximately 62,984,828 clown-ass voters and assorted other malefactors, their grotesque visages will sully our history for as long as the White House stands. I guess. Maybe we could have a national referendum or something to expunge them? A national mulligan?
trollhattan
@Spanky: Boo!
Halloween falls on [checks notes] Monday this year so I’ll wager our traffic is going to be extra light.
Cameron
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I think the Swinish Oaf would show up, just to have a chance to embarrass the President by talking about the ‘stolen election.’ Very much doubt that he and Lusitania are getting an invite.
trollhattan
@Betty Cracker:
A nulligan!
WaterGirl
@Cameron: Perhaps a nice visit on the lawn, and the T**** family can take their portraits to go.
The Moar You Know
“They’d ripped all the ‘W’ keys off the computers” Remember that?
Occurs to me the last classy Republican in the White House was W’s dad. That’s been a long time.
W should fall on his knees every day and thank God for Donald Trump, because of him, he won’t go down in history as the most vile president America’s ever had.
WaterGirl
@Betty Cracker: Just tell Trump that really important presidents get to take their portraits home for display for a few years and let the rest take care of itself.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Baud:
What’s the logic for filibustering it anyway from Republicans that they’ve offered up? The public is firmly in favor same sex marriage
Baud
@Ken:
That reminds me, the baby formula shortage was a national crisis (legitimately) and then all of a sudden nothing. I assume Biden did a good job if fixing it.
Almost Retired
I am all in favor of installing Trump and Melania’s portraits in the White House, as long as darts are kept nearby. Lawn darts, even….
MattF
@WaterGirl: Or a sour flavor. Americans are accoustomed to the, um, peculiar flavor of ordinary Hershey’s chocolates, but it’s not how Euro-chocolate tastes.
ETA: ‘Consistency of wax’ is the Dove bar specialty.
Cameron
@WaterGirl: They don’t actually have to show up. Joe Biden seems to be a pretty accommodating guy. He could have DoorDash deliver the portraits.
Baud
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
The logic is that they hate Dems.
Also, they know the value of denying the Dems accomplishments that they can sell to their voters, because a lot of their voters are frankly kind of dumb and fall for the both-sides schtick every election.
The Moar You Know
@Mike in NC: I really enjoyed his portrait of the failsons, myself.
Mo MacArbie
Ah yes, the media will love running with the story of kids denied their Halloween treats on the eve of the midterms. Think of the [crying] children!
I remember when I could joke about shit this ridiculous and clearly be joking.
gene108
@Old School:
Nope. Not possible.
Coming back for a portrait unveiling means TFG acknowledges Biden as the current President.
Kropacetic
I thought you described this as a condescending practice. You applied it well here.
Duke of Clay
@WaterGirl:
Indeed! I haven’t bought Hersey’s chocolate in years. It really is crap. Imported chocolate for me, or none at all.
NotMax
@Betty Cracker
Got to be some wall space in the White House boiler room.
//
Roger Moore
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
IOW, “See what you made me do?” It’s the language of an abuser, and it’s way past time for our political media to call it what it is.
Renie
would love to read an uncensored version of how the trumps treated the Bidens when that hand-off occurred – or perhaps it never happened since he still thinks he won.
Old School
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
The argument I’ve seen is that is it unnecessary. The Democrats are just fearmongering.
Scout211
This doesn’t sound suspicious at all, Director Murray.
You need to “oversee” the investigation of the USSS? Why?
West of the Rockies
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I don’t ever want to see a Trump anywhere near the Whitehouse unless it’s to rub his nose on the carpet where he likely peed.
piratedan
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: case # 1,000,026 in point that only the Democrats have agency and when the Dems outmanuever the GOP in getting legislation passed that it demands that the GOP hurt other people in response.
NotMax
@Old School
Depends on how accommodating the prison warden is when it comes to granting leave.
:)
Roger Moore
@The Moar You Know:
For some definition of classy. GHW Bush knew how to fake it in public, but he was a right bastard. The last halfway decent human to come from the Republican side of the aisle was Eisenhower.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Old School:
After what just happened to R v W? And Thomas threatening to go after Griswold?
Kropacetic
@Duke of Clay: It may be weird, but I tend to prefer the flavor of cheaper chocolates, Hershey and M&Ms, to any “good” or imported chocolate I’ve tried.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: Yes, it is problem until Biden tackles then it just disappears from the national media. Gas prices have been trending down and all the gas price concern trolls have disappeared.
CaseyL
I’ve had very good, excellent, chocolate. And I like it very much. My mouth swoons, as it were.
In no way is Hershey’s “good chocolate.” However, it is the choco I grew up eating and, to this day, I can’t really resist the stuff.
What can I do? Early imprinting runs deep.
Captain C
@Betty Cracker: How about caricatures instead of regular portraits? I bet we could find a good caricature artist near T***p Tower in NYC for authenticity’s sake.
Miss Bianca
@Ken: I like Hershey’s chocolate.
ETA: I also like European chocolate. I contain multitudes…of chocolate taste.
West of the Rockies
@The Moar You Know:
Well, other than when GHWB barfed on the Japanese PM…
trollhattan
Will it be McNaughton or Garrison doing Donny and Melanie’s portrait?
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Scout211:
Those people have absolutely destroyed the Secret Service’s reputation and mythos of over nearly a century. For Donald fucking Trump of all people!
schrodingers_cat
@Roger Moore: Didn’t all the Communist hysteria start during his time? And wasn’t under God was added to the Pledge during the Eisenhower era.
Roger Moore
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
That may be why they’re offering this flimsy procedural excuse. See, we wanted to vote for marriage equality but we couldn’t because the Democrats were mean to us. It wasn’t at all because we were kowtowing to the religious bigots in our party.
West of the Rockies
@Renie:
Am I misremembering? I thought the Trumps did not greet the Bidens.
Redshift
That’s not even mentioning that most of those memos went unread, as Michael Lewis details in The Fifth Risk, because Orange Julius fired the transition team after learning that it would cost him money (technically cost the campaign money, but he only cared because it meant money he wouldn’t be able to pocket.)
Though in retrospect, the less the Trumpies knew about navigating the federal government the better…
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
I think the communist hysteria is from Truman. (There was some before the war too.)
SiubhanDuinne
@Roger Moore:
Maybe I have forgotten, or never knew, unpleasant things about him, but I’ve always had the impression that Jerry Ford was a decent and likeable guy. I’m not talking about the Nixon pardon, or any other policy decisions during his administration; just his basic decency. If I’m wrong about him as a person, glad to be corrected.
Scout211
@West of the Rockies: You are correct.
MattF
@West of the Rockies: My recollection is that the new Biden administration made it clear that any remaining Trumps in the White House would be physically ejected.
gene108
@Baud:
Shortage still exists and will continue until Abbot gets their baby formula factory up and running again.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/07/21/health/formula-shortage-continues/index.html
Geminid
@West of the Rockies: I don’t think there was any personal contact between the two men after the election. Maybe not even a phone call. trump was halfway to Florida when Biden took the oath of office, I believe.
Ken
@WaterGirl: @MattF: According to Terry Pratchett, the Ankh-Morpork Guild of Confectioners feels their customers don’t want chocolate that is full of cocoa liquor and cream, and prefer the traditional A-M recipe of milk, sugar, suet, hooves, rat droppings, wax, and powdered cocoa husks.
As a result, in the great Discworld chocolate-producing nations such as Quirm, A-M chocolate is classified as a kind of cheese, and would be classified as grout if not for the color.
Baud
@gene108:
Thanks.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@schrodingers_cat:
IIRC, yes. It was during the 1950s Red Scare that the “In God We Trust” was added to our money. I vaguely remember it was during this era that at least some Republican congressmen were floating some very radical ideas; Robert Taft led the isolationist wing of the GOP in the late 40s and early 50s and did not want US military stationed in Europe; in this relatively labor friendly, social democratic age, this was a preview of the future
gene108
@Renie:
From what I recall the Trumps left the second TFG was no longer President. There was no post-inauguration handoff.
HumboldtBlue
@Ken:
That’s the secondary story here, Hershey makes shit chocolate, and those in the know already know this.
Elsewhere, in a dead thread below, I mentioned my West Virginia BIL was escorted from a hearing on the Veterans bill. He laid into the GOP with some anger and vitriol and was escorted out. My sister reported he said what he wanted to say to the bastards.
Mo MacArbie
I’m hoping Trump’s portrait will be the mugshot.
Roger Moore
@schrodingers_cat:
The Communist fearmongering started under Truman. Eisenhower chose to run as a Republican in large part because he wanted to lend power to the saner, centrist wing of the party against the McCarthyite wing. It’s true that “Under God” was added to the Pledge (and “In God We Trust” was added to currency) under Eisenhower, but that was because of a law passed by Congress, not by Presidential decree.
Steeplejack
Heard on SiriusXM that today is Mike Bloomfield’s birthday (1943-1981). RIP to a great guitarist. Here he is with the Electric Flag, “Another Country.” Non-hippies are permitted to skip the noise collage from 2:30 to 3:55, but definitely listen to the extended solo that begins then. And, as always, Steep likes a kickin’ horn section.
The title seems appropriate these days. 🤔
Betty Cracker
@WaterGirl: Genius — he would totally fall for it!
gene108
@Roger Moore:
The Republicans also use abuser tactics with the political media. I don’t think the political media understands the relationship they have with Republicans or they do and they like it that way.
SiubhanDuinne
Speaking of presidential likenesses: Jesus H. Murphy, but TFG looks a hundred times worse than I’ve ever seen him, and he always looks terrible. Was just browsing around over at Wonkette, and they have an Evan Hurst article about TFG’s embrace of this new Saudi-owned golf league or whatever, and if you scroll all the way to the end there is a photo of him that is the stuff of clown-riddled nightmares. Here’s the Wonkette link:
https://www.wonkette.com/-2657763890
Betty Cracker
@Kropacetic: I do consider it a condescending practice. This is a deserving target.
Geminid
@Mo MacArbie: The Daily Mail put out a photo of trump today from an appearance of his at a pro-am golf tournament. I don’t know if it was the lack of makeup but he looked wierd. I thought maybe his dementia was showing. He just had a certain look.
Kropacetic
@Betty Cracker: Exactly.
SiubhanDuinne
@Geminid:
That’s what I was referring to in #77!
Layer8Problem
As it’s an open thread, I’ve got a question directed to anyone who might know about the pros and cons of selling a house using an auctioneer instead of a realtor.
I have a family member very interested in selling a deceased parent’s house by auction rather than through a realtor. My experience has been uniformly by a realtor. I understand that the house can be sold as is (there are some issues with it) and that it can be sold more quickly. Does anyone have any knowledge or experience of house auctions, positive or negative, any aspects of auctions to keep an eye on, and any reasons to use auctions in preference to selling through a realtor? Thanks for any information.
Urza
Redshift
@Old School:
That is the flimsy excuse they’re offering. “This is totally unnecessary, because one Supreme Court justice who has never lied before said they’re not gonna reverse it, and only one other is openly rooting for it.”
But also, that was just the excuse for the R’s who already weren’t going to vote for it, not the ones who were in discussions to vote for it and are now reportedly “dooming” it. Their only reasons are McConnell being butthurt and not wanting too many Dem “wins,” so if they got one he thought he had killed, another must be taken away.
Scout211
@Geminid:
This picture of TFG? Very weird, yes. Kind of creepy. His make-up team must have been on vacation.
HumboldtBlue
@Duke of Clay:
You should really start looking for locally made chocolate, Humboldt has all the delicious and excellent chocolate it can eat because it’s not made by giant corporations but by people who actually honed a craft.
@SiubhanDuinne:
Tom Levenson agrees with you.
Someone in another tweet pointed out that’s how he looks now that he no longer has white house makeup and hair people at his beck and call.
Roger Moore
@SiubhanDuinne:
You’re probably right; I just completely overlooked Ford.
Urza
@SiubhanDuinne: That makes me think of the retired serial killer on Dexter.
NotMax
@Layer8Problem
That’s how Mr. Cole impulse bought his house.
Urza
@West of the Rockies: They didn’t just not greet Biden, they fired all the White House ushers just prior to Biden arriving so that there was no one there to greet the incoming president.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@schrodingers_cat:
I still hear customers bitch about it. I make it a point to point out gas prices have gone down, in a “half-glass full” positive way. Their response? “Well, it still cost me a lot when I filled up a day ago.”
Kropacetic
@Roger Moore: Ford is easily overlooked.
UncleEbeneezer
@Miss Bianca: I’ll take candy-bar chocolate over fancy chocolate most of the time. It’s what I grew up on. And I prefer milk to dark chocolate.
Geminid
@SiubhanDuinne: Yes. I commented before I saw yours. A singular photo. It was taken squarely head on and the camera seemed slightly higher than him. He looked a little dazed I thought.
MattF
@HumboldtBlue: There’s a lot of good chocolate out there. The good news is that learning the difference between good and bad chocolate requires eating large amounts of good chocolate.
Layer8Problem
@NotMax: Oho.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
this bit from the main story is interesting, something I don’t remember hearing before
I guess dumb ol’ Do-Nothing Garland has actually been picking his battles cause he’s a lawyer with deep experience and understanding of precedent and shit
p.a.
@trollhattan: my $ is on McNaughton, with a halo on donnie & melanoma in a 60’s (AND 70’s, 80’s, 90’s etc) era female skintight comic superhero outfit.😳
Roger Moore
@gene108:
I think the political media is afraid of the Republicans. They keep telling everyone we just need to placate the Republicans so they won’t be mean anymore. When that isn’t enough, they try to point the Republicans in some other direction to avoid being hurt themselves.
Ramona
@Old School: Heheheh
Miss Bianca
@UncleEbeneezer: The only milk chocolate I really find myself craving is…wait for it…Hershey’s. : )
Otherwise, I prefer dark.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Roger Moore:
Which is just as you noted a flimsy, weak excuse. If they kill it, add it on to the pile to roast them with this November.
“The GOP hates marriage equality! They voted no on basic human rights because they were butthurt they got outmanuervered on legislation!”
zhena gogolia
@SiubhanDuinne: Oh, but Biden is so old!
zhena gogolia
@Scout211: He really looks like the crypt keeper.
UncleEbeneezer
Roger Moore
@SiubhanDuinne:
I don’t think there’s anything big there. The major difference is that Trump let us see him without his makeup. Seriously. You notice his skin doesn’t have its typical orange color in those pictures, and it’s because that’s what he actually looks like. You’re just so used to the painted on face that seeing the flesh underneath is a shock.
Wapiti
@Scout211: I think he wants to draw pay for all of the hours he’s going to be sitting in depositions.
But yeah, I agree. If it failed under his watch, his successor can shepherd the investigation. He better not be the only one competent there.
UncleEbeneezer
Roger Moore
@Kropacetic:
I didn’t want to belittle him by saying that.
HumboldtBlue
The funds raised by you good folks on this site are legendary, now, meet your Gen Z prodigy, Olivia Juliana who is nearing million dollars raised for abortion rights groups after Matt Gaetz attacked her physical appearance with a good dose of crass sexism and misogyny thrown in earlier this week.
SiubhanDuinne
@Roger Moore:
I’ve seen pictures of him sans maquillage before, and while that’s usually a disconcerting experience, that’s not it. He looks vacant and kind of befuddled and just not well. Please don’t think I am upset about this.
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Only because Twitter made him.
Kropacetic
If I hurt his feelings, he’s welcome to reach out to a blogmaster for my email.
zhena gogolia
@UncleEbeneezer: Good. I’m listening to all the hearings again, and I’m in #3 now, where Short and Jacob testify, and the committee is all solicitous of their privilege claims. I can’t stand those sanctimonious pricks.
UncleEbeneezer
@Miss Bianca: My wife feels the same way. You’re both weird :p
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@HumboldtBlue:
Gee, you’d think an alleged “billionaire” would still be able to have those folks at his back and call
UncleEbeneezer
@zhena gogolia: Yup. This will open up a whole bunch of testimony of what people saw/heard/read Trump do. And DOJ wisely was engaging in this fight last fall with Rudy’s phones:
“September 3, 2021: SDNY argues that the privilege review for Rudy’s devices must be conducted pre-scope (meaning, before just the information on Ukraine is identified) and generously offers to limit temporal range of review to items post-dating January 1, 2018, significantly expanding the temporal scope of the privilege review vis a vis the known warrants.
September 16, 2021: Judge Paul Oetken approves SDNY’s desired treatment of Rudy’s phones, meaning anything that post-dates January 1, 2018, regardless of topic, will be reviewed for privilege.”
Meaning they were eager to get access to direct messages to/from Trump, almost a year ago. Mighty strange behavior for a DOJ that Elie Mystal and countless others have assured me, had no interest in investigating Trump…
WaterGirl
@Baud: Yep. I think that’s part media bias, part media incompetence, and part human nature.
The “oh wow it’s better” energy is never equal to the “oh this is fucked up” energy.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Baud:
True. It just seems so bizarre to me to see these people oppose something like same sex marriage, something I thought vast swaths of the country had accepted.
Like I know the score, but I just can’t shake that feeling at times
HumboldtBlue
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Funny, that.
Baud
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Does same sex marriage poll better than abortion rights?
Geminid
@Steeplejack: Mike Bloomfield was in the band producer Bob Johnston put together for Bob Dylan’s Highway 61 Revisited. Thats the album with “Like a Rolling Stone.” That sound hit like a ton of bricks, and Bloomfield’s guitar work was a big part of that.
Al Kooper played on those sessions, and I read an interview of Kooper where he talked about it. Kooper said he was going to audition as guitarist, but then he heard Bloomfield play and decided he’d better audition on keyboards intead.
WaterGirl
@Duke of Clay: I like really good chocolate. It doesn’t have to be imported, though. These guys make my favorite chocolates.
They are as good as the chocolates my friend brings me from Belgium and France.
HumboldtBlue
The world is a weird, weird, place. Here you have Socks the cat fighting Nixon in a video game.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Baud:
It’s about there. Last I checked it was like 70-something percent of the public approves of it. It’s supposed to be uncontroversial, same as contraception. Or women having the right to a divorce if they’re husbands/partners are wifebeaters
James E Powell
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
“The public” is not “people who vote.” And even for the voters who say they support same sex marriage or abortion rights or gun control or steps to address climate change may not consider those things important enough to determine their vote.
Voters who say they are pro-choice voted for the presidents who appointed the justices who overruled Roe v Wade. Enough of them to change the outcome. They just do not care that much about the issue.
Citizen Alan
@schrodingers_cat: Yes, it did. But did he actually push thatill it pushed that? Or did he not push back against a Republican Congress eager to find a wedge issue to use against new deal democrats?
Kropacetic
@Baud: Polls, schmolls. A dedicated minority is opposed, so they must have their way.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@James E Powell:
I’m sure they will when someone they care about dies unnecessarily from an ectopic pregnancy/gets investigated by the state for a miscarriage or gay/lesbian friend(s) of theirs get their marriage nullified
Besides, I’d argue that to those people, the concept of Roe getting overturned was not real to them. It was “settled law”. They probably really believed that the SCOTUS would uphold precedent, based on it’s reputation over the 20th century. SCOTUS’s approval rating has nosedived since Dobbs because enough people understand that the right will not stop with Roe and that basic rights we’ve taken for granted for nearly a century are under threat
WaterGirl
@Scout211: He’s either trying to protect the ones who are guilty and corrupt or he is not guilty and corrupt and he thinks the next guy in line will work to obstruct the investigation.
Without more information, there’s no way to tell which. But in an organization that’s above board, neither of those two things should necessary or appropriate.
HumboldtBlue
OK, my Thursday bingo card did not contain the hashtag, “Prince “William is the Prince of pegging” but it’s 2022 so fuck it, anything goes.
trollhattan
@Steeplejack:
Gone much, much too soon. Personal favorite is “East-West” from the Butterfield Blues Band, which has Bloomfield and Elvin Bishop trading mindbending licks for more than ten minutes.
Reliable song for DJs in need of a bathroom break.
Kropacetic
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Like they only want to go back a century.
SiubhanDuinne
@Urza:
Which I have never seen, but shudder and ugh!
Another Scott
@Spanky: Trader Joe’s has some amazing 3 oz Uganda and 3 oz Colombia 85% chocolate bars. Cheap ($2-$2.50 a piece, I think), also too. I think we may pass them out this year. The little kids won’t know what hit them. ;-)
The “kid size” stuff gets smaller and more disgusting every year, while the amount of plastic keeps increasing. :-/
Cheers,
Scott.
zhena gogolia
@HumboldtBlue: I learned something today. I didn’t need to learn it.
Citizen Alan
@HumboldtBlue:
I’m genuinely conflicted about this story. On one hand, I certainly do not support the slut shaming of Prince William, and if hes into that do that with the mistress his wife apparently doesn’t object to, more power to him. On the other hand, I think he, his wife, and the rest of the royals behave abominably towards Harry and Megan, so they kind of deserve the bad karma.
WaterGirl
@Kropacetic: shudder
Geminid
@Citizen Alan: The reaction against the New Deal was growing in strength after the Second World War. Harry Truman pulled the New Deal coalition together one more time to win in 1948. That was quite a feat, especially considering that Truman had two renegade Democrats, Henry Wallace and Strom Thurmond, running third party campaigns to his left and right.
China finally fell to the Communists in 1949, and that was the year the Russians set off their atom bomb, I think. Those events inflamed the Red Scare and the Republicans capitalized on this to try and discredit the whole New Deal administration.
I found an example of this dynamic when I watched a rerun of a Victory at Sea episode. That series was produced in the 1950s and this part was about the Lend Lease program. The narrator described the bitter war in the Atlantic and Britain’s precarious plight, and how Congress came to Britain’s rescue with the Lend Lease Act. President Roosevelt was not even mentioned.
Kropacetic
@WaterGirl: Yeah, sorry.
Godiva is trash. Lindt bores me. Cadbury is always overwhelmed by its filling, cant taste the chocolate.
Toblerone is good. That’s one.
Another Scott
@NotMax: Seems to have been a popular meme. E.g. Cecil Rhodes, also too.
We know TFG wants to be on Mt. Rushmore. He probably wants himself in a fresco on the ceiling of the Oval Office, also too.
Cheers,
Scott.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@HumboldtBlue:
LOL! I remember when Vinny from Vinesauce played that
RaflW
I definitely do not have Ms. Obama’s sense of calm repose. I’m fire-spitting mad at the GOP for voting against care for veterans exposed to toxic fumes while serving our country.
It is utterly inexcusable for any press to say the GOP ‘support our troops.’ And this is by no means the first time Republicans have voted to screw over veterans care. It’s so needlessly cruel, and it barely registers.
They need to be soundly defeated. (In that vein, I gather a PA-Sen poll came out and Oz is doing about as well as the fairytale guy behind the curtain).
jnfr
I love her so much. Those seem like such simpler times, and heavens knows we’ve all moved on to a new dystopian storyline now.
Cameron
I got a taste for this when I lived in Philly, and still have it (although now I buy from Richey’s in Bradenton): https://www.johnandkiras.com/
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Geminid:
That’s wild considering the guy served four consecutive terms, was responsible for great things like Social Security, the FDIC, led the US to victory in WW2, helped end the Depression, increased labor rights etc. That was all well within living memory, obviously
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@RaflW:
Meaning not well, I take it?
ETA: Saw a Faux headline saying Oz supporters “lack enthusiasm” for him. Good.
Another Scott
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: AKA, “look at what you made me do”. The abuser’s excuse.
She’s a GQP hack and we should expect nothing less from her.
Cheers,
Scott.
HumboldtBlue
@trollhattan:
Damn, that’s good, thanks for the intro.
@zhena gogolia:
I feel ya.
@Citizen Alan:
The general consensus I am getting is just that, they asked for it, William’s sexual prefs aside.
Baud
@Another Scott:
We don’t!
Another Scott
@Roger Moore: GMTA.
While looking around, I see that Ms. Swift (4:15) has some thoughts about that expression and turned it on its head.
Cheers,
Scott.
Kropacetic
It’s mind blowing that fossil Strom Thurmond was in office back then.
Nothing more either.
WaterGirl
@Ken: I have no idea whether this is real or snark, but I LOVE it so much, especially the part in bold.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Another Scott:
I’ve never understood why she’s labeled “moderate”. It’s clear as day she’s corrupt
Geminid
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): This episode was just about Lend Lease, but it’s erasure of Roosevelt’s central role in that program’s formation was egregious. I think this was part of a broader pattern of minimizing the New Deal and its founder. The producers of Victory at Sea were maybe following the dictum, “to get along, go along.” Or they might have been right wingers at heart.
WaterGirl
@SiubhanDuinne: Thus proving the age-old adage, in America anyone can be president.
Kropacetic
I know a common herb sold at 50 times the normal price as a capsule that will help with that.
WaterGirl
@HumboldtBlue:
Holy fuck. He looked bad from the side, but from the front. Wow, I would not even known that was him. shudder (for real this time)
WaterGirl
@Urza: I hope they all got hired back.
WaterGirl
@UncleEbeneezer: Wow, I was willing to overlook your bad taste in the first sentence. But preferring milk chocolate over dark?
Pistols at dawn.
Sure Lurkalot
A client used to send me 1 lb milk chocolate bars from Bissingers for the holidays. It was divine. I later switched to eating more dark and bought good quality bars frequently but my appetite for sweets has declined so much that I don’t crave or eat them much at all. No worries…I have other food vices.
Miss Bianca
@HumboldtBlue: ok, I was at work when I saw this…am I going to have to go to Urban Dictionary to find out what “pegging” is?
Ruckus
@Betty Cracker:
A national mulligan?
NO,NO,NO,NO!
We want no, zero, nada do over of any kind out of them. Once was about a million times too much. Even a purp walk do over.
WaterGirl
@zhena gogolia: I think that at least part of the reason for that is the committee wanting to send the message “come on in, the water’s warm” to anyone who might be reachable.
HumboldtBlue
@WaterGirl:
Yeah, that makes one step back in cringe.
Ruckus
@trollhattan:
They were good. And that is a great album.
HumboldtBlue
@Miss Bianca:
Umm, uhh, you can do that, just expect some very graphic results.
Pegging is a woman penetrating a man with a sex toy.
James E Powell
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
I have that feeling when I consider that Barack & Michelle Obama embody & exhibit nearly every virtue Republican voters said they not only desired, but required in their candidates. They hate them for it. And they hate the rest of us for it, so they vote for Trump.
UncleEbeneezer
@WaterGirl: There’s no accounting for taste :)
Quiltingfool
I have been watching Blacklist on Netflix. There was an episode today where 3 men who were prominent anti-abortion crusaders (one was a governor) had disappeared for about three months and then came back home. They were very cagey about their disappearance to the FBI. Come to find out, a woman surgeon kidnapped them and implanted a uterus and fertilized egg in their bodies. (Whoo, I can’t even wrap my mind around that!). All three lived in states that had a heartbeat bill. One guy had the baby, and the Governor tried to get an abortion and his doctor flatly told him the law prohibited her from performing an abortion – he went to New York to do it.
The woman surgeon had been raped 7 years earlier and could not legally have an abortion. She did something that got her imprisoned, had the baby while in prison and then learned her rapist, when released from prison, was petitioning for custody of her child. She decided to get revenge.
A very wild and probably a medical impossibility – but I get why she did it.
NutmegAgain
I hope Pete Souza is willing to come back and photograph the unveiling. No slam on the current presidential photog, but Souza sure had a great rapport with the Obamas.
Kropacetic
Maybe contextualize the Trump portrait in such a way that communicates “never again.” We need some interior designers, stat.
Another Scott
@gene108:
Your CNN excerpt:
That framing is infuriating.
The factory was inspected and closed because 9 infants died. Not because government bureaucrats and safety Nazis were mean and found “dangerous bacteria in several areas” (what “areas”? the toilets??) to stick it to the hard-working Job Creators and interfere with the magic of the marketplace. Or something.
Grrr…,
Scott.
Kropacetic
@Another Scott: Babies need food to live, who cares if it’s killing them…?
HumboldtBlue
@James E Powell:
Nailed it, Obama was the quintessential American success story, as was Michelle. Humble beginnings, but they strived and reached the greatest heights and GOPers have been bitter about since we first saw Obama in 2004.
Ruckus
@Roger Moore:
Yes, Eisenhower.
You are correct about halfway.
And about that being a lot better than any since.
Captain C
@Citizen Alan:
That seems to be the consensus on the issue on Twitter. Lots of, “hey, if he wants to get his rocks off that way and she’s cool with it, no problem, but fuck them for what they did to Meghan and Harry to distract everyone from it.”
Kind of my take on things, with an added bewilderment at why the fuck the Royals and retainers have such hate for Meghan and Harry in the first place. It seems as petty as a rancorous academic departmental meeting over parking privileges.
Mike in NC
Trump almost always looked like the proverbial ten pounds of shit in a five pound bag, especially when wearing a stupid MAGA hat.
The Lodger
@WaterGirl: I did not ever think I would see a picture of TFG with that much of a resemblance to Dobby the house elf.
persistentillusion
@Geminid: My mother (Alzheimers) looked very like toward the end of her life. Yup, it’s dementia.
Bex
@zhena gogolia: The source of those stories–this is round 2 for them–is dubious. They may be true or not. Why is it any of our business anyway? See The Palace Papers by Tina Brown for an analysis of the British press and its coverage of the royals.
gwangung
GAY BASHING WAS NOT THAT LONG AGO!!!!
Kropacetic
@gwangung: Gay bashing never went away.
Bex
@WaterGirl: Re pistols at dawn, I’ll be your second!
geg6
@Duke of Clay:
Your town obviously has no good chocolatiers. We have one locally that other chocolatiers from around the world come to tour their small family-run facility. The Europeans are envious of their chocolate. Rosalind Candies are fabulous.
That said, I love me some peanut M&Ms.
Steeplejack
@The Moar You Know:
Co-sign.
Another Scott
@Geminid: OTOH, it’s been brutally hot and humid in many places on the East coast. (The dewpoint was 78F here in NoVA early this afternoon.) His pancake makeup running after playing golf in Jersey would have made Rudy’s hair dye running a nothingburger by comparison, so that was out.
He looked tired and hot and sweaty to me.
He hasn’t looked healthy in many years, and his cartoon apparition makes him look ridiculous. Here’s someone’s take on what he would have looked like as a normal 71 year old (5+ years ago).
FWIW.
Cheers,
Scott.
Steve in the ATL
1. Chocolove, preferably 70%
2. Endangered Species, preferably Chimpanzee or Marianas Flying Fox
3. Lake Champlain, preferably 70%
Hershey’s can fuck right off.
HumboldtBlue
@geg6:
Me too, and peanut butter cups, love them too.
Jackie
@HumboldtBlue: This makes me so happy!
I wonder if it’s possible to donate in Gaetz’s name?
Steeplejack
@Betty Cracker:
They’re still finalizing the double portrait Trump wants for him and Melania.
gwangung
@Kropacetic: Yup. Which is what that argument steams me.
zhena gogolia
@Bex: I’m reading it right now! It’s excellent
HumboldtBlue
@Jackie:
They are now over a million, and I am sure there has gotta be a way to donate on Gaetz’s name.
Miss Bianca
@HumboldtBlue: Oh, so *that’s* what the kids are calling it these days! Back in my day we just called it…well, actually…I’m not sure what we called it.
Another Scott
@Steeplejack: That’s one of those old “find the 10,000 things wrong with this picture” tests, isn’t it??
That makes my head hurt. Thanks?
Cheers,
Scott.
Geminid
@Another Scott: It could be the conditions. I just thought his expression was off, and had a look I associate with dementia. The commenter at #180 has more experience with the disease and they thought so too. If this is so, I think we’ll know more within the year.
Steeplejack
@trollhattan:
LOL, because I heard the Bloomfield snippet on the SiriusXM ’60s Gold channel, where the DJs talk a little instead of just playing the music. Later on my car trip, I went in and out of two places for quick pickups all during the span of Richard Harris’s “MacArthur Park” (over seven minutes, I think). I was musing on how it sounded way more overblown than the last time I heard it (years ago), and as it ended the DJ said, “I just got back—anything happen?”
I did give him extra points for following it with the Fifth Dimension’s “Up, Up and Away,” another Jimmy Webb composition.
Bloomfield jogged some other memories. I might have to look up the Bloomfield-Kooper-Stills Super Session album and see how that holds up.
Kathleen
@Leto: Well said. Thank you.
NeenerNeener
@Captain C: @Citizen Alan: Citizen Alan, Humboldt Blue, etc: If you read Tom Bower’s new book about Meghan and Harry you may change your mind about whether or not they were actually “treated badly” or if the whole marriage is actually a smash and grab by Meghan. This rumor about Big Willie is Meghan’s PR team’s smear response to distract from the Bower book. If there was any truth to the rumor the British tabloids would be all over it; they’ve never been shy about trashing the BRF.
By the way, no one yet has managed to sue Tom Bower for libel/slander and win. He’s “got the receipts” as they say
Another Scott
@Geminid: Pictures always lie, so I wouldn’t make too much of it myself.
I didn’t take enough interest to look at the coverage of his speech in DC on Tuesday. Maybe there’s video of that. I expect that he’s not that much worse than he was a couple of years ago or his grifting handlers wouldn’t have let him out.
FWIW.
Cheers,
Scott.
Steeplejack
@Another Scott:
I’ll accept that the guy’s left leg is behind the woman. And I think the green guy has four arms, not an extra leg.
My memory of my Ace paperbacks of Edgar Rice Burroughs’s novels is dimmed by the years, but this illustration might be for the John Carter of Mars series. Not that it’s accurate to the books. The incomparable Dejah Thoris would never appear in such dishabille!
ETA: Yeah, it’s Frank Frazetta’s art for A Princess of Mars. Totally inaccurate, like I said. If I remember correctly, Ballantine took over the Mars books, and Frazetta was reduced to doing hot chicks in fur bikinis for the Pellucidar novels.
Kathleen
@Geminid: I loved that show! I watched that with my dad when I was a kid. My parents bought me the the LP soundtrack. I loved that music.
Roger Moore
@Captain C:
Because they’re a bunch of insular, racist fuckwads. They want the royal family to marry within the right social class. It was already pretty far out there when William wanted to marry a rich commoner, but for Harry to marry an African-American divorcee actress was just beyond imagining.
schrodingers_cat
@Citizen Alan: Can you suggest a good book on the Truman and Eisenhower administrations. I know the outline of what happened but not the details.
RaflW
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
A. Fox. News. Poll.
Hahahahahahahhaah [gasp] hahahahah. It’s prefect that Fox blames the enthusiasm of Oz’s supporters, not the guy from Jersey himself.
twbrandt (formerly tom)
@Roger Moore: why the Brits hang on to that thundering anachronism that is the monarchy baffles me.
Roger Moore
@NeenerNeener:
Nonsense. If the British tabloids are so fantastic at tracking down every story about the royal family, where were all the stories about Charles’s affair with Camilla? My impression is that the tabloids see themselves as defenders of the order. They’ll happily trash members of the royal family who they see as stepping out of bounds, but they’ll also protect what they see as the royal family’s interests. That’s why they refuse to print anything bad about the queen and treat the primary heirs with kid gloves, while massively publicizing any time the people further from the line of succession put a toe out of line.
UncleEbeneezer
@Mike in NC: Whatever you do, don’t google the picture of him “playing” tennis…
Steeplejack
@HumboldtBlue:
Now up to $1.183 million.
J R in WV
@Duke of Clay:
Actually we have a great chocolatier right here in WV — Holl’s chocolate. They make great stuff, founder came here from Switzerland and continues a family tradition. Truffles to die for! In the European / Swiss tradition.
Have I mentioned my grandfather was born to two Swiss immigrants up in Ohio dairy country? Holl’s is great!!!
HumboldtBlue
@Steeplejack:
It just keeps getting better and better.
Steeplejack
@SiubhanDuinne:
Yeah, this. I remember pictures from Mar-a-Lago after Trump played golf where he wasn’t slathered in makeup. He looked awful, but that was different from today’s picture. Maybe just caught him at an off moment, but he looks, well, off. Or as one Twitter commenter said: “I’ve been that high.” 😹
Geminid
@Kathleen: Great music, by Rodgers of Rodgers & Hammerstein I believe.
Geminid
@Another Scott: I don’t see that much difference in trump’s speechifying over the last two years either. But there’s a lot of repetition and that’s something that he might be able to maintain for a while before any deterioration becomes obvious enough for his handlers to have to pull him. Like I said, if he is getting dementia we should know within a year. I won’t be surprised, though.
J R in WV
@Layer8Problem:
If you are more concerned with the speed and finality of a sale., rather than the price you receive for your property, then an auction is a good thing. We sold my parents’ home at auction, while their stuff no one in the family wanted was also auctioned off.
Was sold for a fraction of it’s value on the local market. But we were OK with that, as it was a small portion of the value of the estate. Your situation may be completely different. For many estates, the real estate is the vast bulk of the worth of the estate.
Best of luck to you, sorry for your loss!!!
NeenerNeener
@Roger Moore: I remember “tampongate”. Charles got blasted for that in the press so they aren’t that protective of the direct heirs.
WaterGirl
@Bex: Thanks for having my back on this.
Steeplejack
@WaterGirl:
It’s from a work of fiction, so it’s “real” and snark.
WaterGirl
@RaflW: 17% undecided… that means the race could go either way.
If most of those are Republicans who don’t want to admit they ill vote for Oz, Oz could win.
Steeplejack
@HumboldtBlue:
Trader Joe’s has some dark chocolate peanut butter cups that are very good.
I’m a dark-chocolate guy, but I do like an occasional Hershey bar with almonds.
Layer8Problem
@J R in WV: Well, the estate pretty much is the house and property. It could have been better kept. The family member doing all this would very much like to get the assessed value, as would all of the heirs, but if if bids don’t reach the reserve there’s no sale and they’re out the auction fee for nothing.
Thanks!
Steeplejack
@Layer8Problem:
I thought the housing market was still
hotwarm enough in most places that you could sell quickly through regular real-estate agent channels. I’m not a real-estate pro, but in my casual reading I usually see auction sales when it’s an unusual situation like “We want to sell the house but don’t want to deal with Granddad’s hoarder levels of junk.” I guess the key is making the reserve high enough so that someone doesn’t “steal” the house if not many bidders show up.pluky
@Baud: Once is was made clear to the domestic manufacturers that Biden was serious about dismantling their regulatory capture based oligopoly things started getting fixed.
Layer8Problem
@Steeplejack: I have to confess that I do not know the market, but this particular location is a town in the same state our blog proprietor lives in. The house has a few things that need fixing and the family member thinks auctioning is a win. Maybe use an auction if they’re interested in unloading fast, but realtors are generally used for home sales for good reasons, I’d imagine. And the heirs have to all agree with the method.
Steeplejack
@Layer8Problem:
I definitely don’t know the market in West Virginia, and I’m assuming the house is in a small(er) town. So maybe the market isn’t as hot as elsewhere. As I said, an auction sale could be okay if the bottom—the reserve price—is high enough that your relative doesn’t get hosed if the bids are low. And I have no idea how painful the auction fees are.
A good real-estate agent would be knowledgeable about whether the house’s “assessed” value is realistic and what’s actually happening in the local market. You wouldn’t have access to that with an auction, I don’t think.
Layer8Problem
@Steeplejack: Thanks for this. Houses and property are not my forte.
Another Scott
@Layer8Problem: Over the last few years, we’ve gotten unsolicited mailers here in NoVA from places that claim they’ll buy our house for cash with no hassle. In a hot housing market, a quick sale that way can make sense if you value getting rid of it quickly above all else.
In a slow housing market, such offers are probably rare (they obviously want to sell the house again quickly to make a quick profit).
I would think that an auction of a house would be a bad way to go for a home sale, myself. (I have one memory of going to an estate auction at someone’s house that was being cleaned out to be sold and that seemed to be a waste of time for just about everyone involved. “What am I offered for this thing? I’m not sure what it is. Let’s start the bidding at 50 cents!…”) AFAIK, the buyer has to come up with the cash quickly after the auction ends, and few normal people can do that. (But search through the archives here and see if you can find Cole’s saga in buying his place. Sometime before August 2016.) You’re limiting the potential universe of people who would be willing and able to make a bid, and mainly attracting those who are looking for a severe bargain.
Good agents do more than take a percentage of the price for doing some showings – they can point out things that can help the place sell quicker and for a better price (even if you don’t want to spend money on fixing it up to try to get a better price, it might be worth it to do some things so that it sells faster). They talk to other agents who know of people who are looking. They know good inspectors and banks and title companies and …
HTH a little. Good luck!
Cheers,
Scott.
Steeplejack
@Layer8Problem:
My knowledge is mostly from watching things like HGTV, reading here and there and talking with my brother, who used to be a serial renovator until he settled on Sighthound Hall but is still something of a real-estate maven.
One thing thaat raises a small red flag is “heirs have to all agree.” That’s different from “one relative is planning to do an auction,” which I took as your original proposition. You could be approaching a situation where people with different expectations and different levels of knowledge are going to come into disagreement. Families and money, you know. Everybody with opinions, too many of the form “I don’t know exactly what I want, but I know I don’t like this.”
My brothers and I were fortunate when we sold our mother’s house in 2020. We got her into an assisted-care facility right before COVID shut down everything in March 2020. (She was 90 then, still active, but it was an opportune time.) We were in agreement on getting the sale done with a minimum of fuss. We had an auction company do all of the household goods that we didn’t want. We priced the house realistically to sell, and we ended up selling it for slightly less than that to a flipper. Cash sale, no inspection, quick closing. This was in the hot market of Las Vegas, NV. People fleeing the Demoncrat hellscape of California. 🙄
Since our mom was (is) still alive, we weren’t looking to make a big score on an “estate,” so there was no pressure on that account.
Steeplejack
@Another Scott:
I think Cole’s situation was different, because wasn’t the house he bought abandoned and/or in severe disrepair? Doesn’t sound like Layer8Problem’s relative’s house is that bad off.
Steeplejack
@Steeplejack:
ETA: Should have mentioned that we used a real-estate agent who provided good advice and was in agreement about all the steps. And my RWNJ brother lives in Las Vegas, and pre-COVID my other brother and I visited there a lot, so we weren’t clueless about the situation.
Layer8Problem
@Another Scott:
Basically the place is a fixer-upper and the heirs (one of whom is the seller) are at a distance from the property. That’s what makes sprucing it up a problem. A realtor might be able to work with this.
Thanks!
Layer8Problem
@Steeplejack:
Sounds like you were there. :-) Let’s just say for the folks at home that when the kids are begging you to write up a will, do it!!
Steeplejack
@Layer8Problem:
The classic answer is to lower the selling price to reflect that it needs “sprucing up” and let the eventual buyer worry about doing the sprucing-up. Again, a real-estate agent, or a recommended home inspector, could perhaps give some estimates of the money that would be involved—and so a guide to how much to reduce your asking price.
Layer8Problem
I’m going to call it an evening. Many thanks Steeplejack, Another Scott, and J R in WV.
Steeplejack
@Layer8Problem:
Night. 😴 Just finishing up with Perry Mason, and then I’ll be off to bed myself.
Ruckus
@Urza:
SFB is quite the whinny shit isn’t he?
Ruckus
@SiubhanDuinne:
Please don’t think I am upset about this.
Hadn’t crossed my mind. Ever.
Tehanu
@SiubhanDuinne:
Thanks for posting the link. You’re right, the Dumpster’s beginning to look like something from Tales from the Crypt.
Ruckus
@Another Scott:
Last house I sold got great responses for the first week or so, but then it took a year to sell because the market tanked.
I would think that an auction with a high reserve might be tried, if the people involved understood the risks and if the auctioneer was agreeable. The sale might go faster. But I’d have a local realtor check it out and give an estimate of the high and low price it could go for before I did anything. I’ve sold 3 homes over the years and sometimes it’s difficult to say what is going to happen.