Grain of truth: law enforcement serving search warrants routinely just routinely grab stuff aggressively and without apparent logical connection to warrant. It is, however, not like a “common criminal.” Common criminals face consequences if they take things illegally. https://t.co/OyHqbz8sJL
— 18Hat793 (@Popehat) August 16, 2022
Repub tears, they are delicious!
This is not just story #57, it is Trump confessing to the crime
If this report is accurate, Trump is saying he took these doc for his personal gain. It's no defense to say "the govt was going to be unfair." These are the govt's docs, not his. He doesn't get to hide them& benefit https://t.co/kiLmpbZH7p
— Neal Katyal (@neal_katyal) August 16, 2022
Patrick Philbin, Trump’s deputy White House Counsel, who Trump appointed to make sure Trump records ended up properly at the National archives, tried to get Trump to turn over the records. Trump refused, saying the records are “mine,” “not theirs.”https://t.co/VxIkPwBSay pic.twitter.com/fTfHyiXOfV
— Orin Kerr (@OrinKerr) August 16, 2022
The other Repubs are nervous, because TFG’s usual mob-boss tactics aren’t working on the DoJ or the FBI…
New via NY Times: Pat Cipollone and Patrick Philbin, the Trump White House counsel and his deputy, were interviewed by the FBI in connection with boxes of sensitive documents stored at Mar-a-Lago
— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) August 16, 2022
Alina Habba is spewing pure nonsense. Confidential witnesses are NEVER identified at the pre-indictment stage. Grand jury secrecy really does protect the "CW" or "CC". In 25 years of working as in criminal litigation (3 as an AUSA, 22 on the defense side), I know of only one leak https://t.co/vaR4TXH73a
— Mitchell Epner (@MitchellEpner) August 16, 2022
Criminal defendants have a right to challenge the basis for a search warrant if and when evidence obtained through that search is to be used against them at trial (a “Franks” hearing).
But there’s no default for providing access to the affidavit until and unless that happens.
— Steve Vladeck (@steve_vladeck) August 16, 2022
"At least one lawyer on the Trump legal team . . . has called up a reporter covering the story for any insight into how the Justice Department might next proceed." https://t.co/cQeC9Yzdtd
— Lisa Rubin (@lawofruby) August 16, 2022
Dum da dum dum…
New: Federal magistrate judge Bruce Reinhart sets Thursday 1p ET hearing over whether to unseal Trump Mar-a-Lago search warrant affidavit
— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) August 16, 2022
The shit we went through because Hillary had three emails marked 'confidential' https://t.co/wHpqy9I02H pic.twitter.com/b8jmGEST7F
— zeddy (@Zeddary) August 16, 2022
“Where did you get that fire extinguisher?” beg the arsonists, as the fire creeps closer to their backyards. https://t.co/mm7VDrb7Y0
— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) August 16, 2022
Bonus: Conway is no Alexandra Petri, but he’s certainly got TFG’s tone down:
THE MYSTERY of the GREAT COOKIE RAID is SOLVED.
TFG didn't take them. There were no cookies. He was framed. He has never touched one. They aren't his type. He has only the Awesomest Cookies. By Standing Order, they're his.
WITCH HUNT!! Fifth Amendment!https://t.co/Q6Fd4CJusR
— George Conway🌻 (@gtconway3d) August 16, 2022
Baud
OT. I posted this in the last thread, but a good video to send to your friends on the IRA.
The Biggest Climate Bill of Your Life
https://youtu.be/qw5zzrOpo2s
trollhattan
Dude with a bullwhip? I can solve this particular puzzle.
mrmoshpotato
This man-baby criminal is their orange god? You 62-74 million white trash morons.
Cameron
@mrmoshpotato: Yes. The emotional maturity of a 3-year-old.
SiubhanDuinne
Place must be overrun with cockroaches.
Also insects.
Edmund Dantes
Glad to see we’ve entered the “of course I did it and if it wasn’t for those meddling NARA kids I’d have gotten away with it” stage of the caper.
Frank Wilhoit
@mrmoshpotato: There is a familiar quote from Mencken, the formulation of which is uncharacteristically awkward, but which basically says that people vote for candidates(*) with whom they identify.
(*) I would have said, parties
Cameron
@SiubhanDuinne: They”re law enforcement and pest control specialists!
Cameron
@Edmund Dantes: Where is that stupid dog?
mrmoshpotato
Awww…mobster manbaby can’t fire DoJ officials anymore. (Still hilarious that Confederate Elf Sessions wasn’t corrupt enough for the Soviet shitpile mobster manbaby.)
Have they tried crying harder?
Omnes Omnibus
This song is worth a listen.
mrmoshpotato
@Cameron: Oh, there are 3-year-olds who aren’t such whiny brats as this 76(!)-year-old sentient shitpile.
mrmoshpotato
@Edmund Dantes:
That’s a slap in the face to Scooby Doo villains!
Cameron
@mrmoshpotato: Being pretty generous with ‘sentient,’ aren’t you?
Old School
Baud
The only people Trump has intimidated were Republicans. Dems, especially Pelosi, were pretty strong in standing up to him when he was in office.
mrmoshpotato
@Cameron: Haha, true.
mrmoshpotato
@Omnes Omnibus: Finally watched that video. Extra points to the guy for the Ted Cruz slam.
RSA
Tucker Carlson:
Funny, with the January 6 hearings due to resume in September, Carlson implies that Trump was not sincerely interested in lowering the temperature on that day.
David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
All the idiots defending him have gone silent. They were sooooo sure this was a political winner for them.
Anyone with 2 brain cells knew this was something BIG. They don’t send in 30 agents, an armored truck, and a national security team for a weather map.
Now, a humiliated Laura Ingraham wants to break-up and start seeing other Nazis.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
Alina Habba worked as an attorney for a New Jersey parking garage lol
Omnes Omnibus
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Why exactly is that a bad thing?
Baud
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
To be fair, that parking garage also committed treason against America.
Poe Larity
I always thought Mar-a-Lago looked just like a SCIF.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Edmund Dantes:
Reminds me of Jessup from A Few Good Men.
Federal prosecutor: “Did you take classified state nuclear secrets to your bedbug infested club in Florida?”
TFG: “You’re god damn right I did!”
David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
@Baud:
Yup. Even Manchin voted to “impeach the mother fucker” twice
David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
CorporationsParking garages are people, my friendStarfish
I posted this TikTok where a man is singing about the FBI to the last thread, but it is more appropriate here.
MagdaInBlack
@David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: Oh great. Does this mean she’s going to start worshiping DeSantis and his alleged BDE?
( yes, I saw a reference to DeSantis having that energy. yik yik yik)
Poe Larity
@David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:
Pat Buchanan is still alive…
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Omnes Omnibus:
Well, by itself no, but she’s really only ever been in-house legal counsel for that parking garage company and has some litigation experience, but is no expert in criminal law/trial procedures as far as I can tell, which is controlling here; IOW, she’s way out of her depth
SiubhanDuinne
@Old School:
I love him so much.
germy shoemangler
Here’s a story from last month:
David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
Cameron
@David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: Uh-oh. Sounds like Murdochworld is gearing up for “The DeSantis Decade.” I need to start smoking dope again. ETA: I see MagdaInBlack is much quicker on the draw than I am.
Scout211
@Starfish: sweet!
SiubhanDuinne
@RSA:
I can’t speak for anyone else, but this does not strike me as a particularly robust endorsement of TFG on Tuckum’s side.
geg6
@Cameron:
You mean you got through the Cheetolini years without it?!?!?!?
You are much tougher than I.
HumboldtBlue
@Cameron:
You can’t talk about Scooby Doo like that! Take that back, you heathen!
David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
@Baud:
I severed all my ties to the IRA after “The Crying Game” came out.
Bill Arnold
@David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:
It was known that this was/is a counter-intelligence investigation.
Cameron
@germy shoemangler: https://youtu.be/THf-zR0DiUo
Cameron
@geg6: No,..,.just much older…..
germy shoemangler
@Cameron:
“only the best people”
Cameron
@HumboldtBlue: Whoawhoawhoa — the diss is not mentioning him at all!
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Bill Arnold:
@David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:
Perhaps they’re all starting to get cold feet what with the armed Trump supporters outside FBI field offices
RSA
@SiubhanDuinne: Yes! That struck me too. “Maybe for the first time in his life, Donald Trump seems…[to have a decent impulse, even if it’s a fake one.]” Carlson isn’t usually so honest.
bbleh
@Baud: in fairness, an awful lot of political journalists are Democrats.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Baud:
A $75/day parking fee?
Cameron
@bbleh: That actually doesn’t reflect well on either party, does it?
mali muso
@Old School: Saw that earlier…chef’s kiss!
Spanky
@Poe Larity:
Prove it.
bbleh
@Baud: @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): well who trusts anything with some French name like “garage”?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhbJnlIvfyc
phdesmond
@Omnes Omnibus:
it’s jolly.
Spanky
@bbleh:
An “aweful lot”? I think not.
ETA – Although I will agree that political journalists are an aweful lot.
The Moar You Know
@David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: Trump has no politics. None. It’s just “The Donald Trump Show”, and there are no writers or producers.
Frankensteinbeck
@The Moar You Know:
He is a frothing white supremacist and has been all his life.
HumboldtBlue
@Cameron:
Not buying it, Pal, that’s something old man Carruthers would say!
Van Buren
Wife’s car was totaled in July. Was finally able to go shopping for a replacement today. The three headed monster of limited availability, increased prices, and skyrocketing interest rate put my new pacemaker to the test. Everything was all said and done, and my younger son, who is on the spectrum, and who came along just so he could drive my car home while I drove home the new one, promptly backed into a brand effing new, still in shrink wrap car. The whole sales and service staff came out to see. I told him I would take care of it and sent him home, and the dealer said if I pay a grand, they’ll forget about it. I thought there at least 1500 in damages that I was looking at, so I jumped on the deal, shook hands all around, and drove home myself.
Just keep saying to myself, it’s only $ and nobody got hurt. Actually thrilled that he did not melt down in public. Totally worth it.
HumboldtBlue
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Van Buren: Holy cow. All I can say is, chances are tomorrow will be a better day.
Villago Delenda Est
@Omnes Omnibus: It is EPIC. At the end, the finger wag just slams it on home!
RSA
@Van Buren: Whew. Congrats. It sounds like a relatively good outcome.
eclare
@Van Buren: Your second paragraph says it all, although I’m sure it must have been frustrating/enraging at the time.
Van Buren
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Tomorrow is the calm before the storm, as on Thursday I am having a liver biopsy. It’s either going to be unpleasant news or horrific news. Tiny possibility of NBD news. Trying to ducks in a row without alerting/alarming my wife unless necessary.
eclare
@Van Buren: Best wishes to you, please keep us posted. 🙏
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Van Buren: Keep us posted, ok?
Ken
I assume this means he’s run out of real lawyers who will work for him, and has turned to his relatives; specifically that notorious crowd-sourcer of everything from COVID science to Middle East peace, Jared.
Sure Lurkalot
@Van Buren: You’re an awesome father.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
From trump’s lawyer’s website
Funny to me that he apparently found her for his grudge match against his niece. Also she doesn’t mention her own education except to drop that Harvard credential in there. With the licensing she lists, can she represent him in Federal court? I think I heard somebody on MSNBC say if charges are filed, it will be by the US Atty in Miami? But I guess you don’t need to be licensed to go on TeeVee.
geg6
@Cameron:
Probably not as much as you think.
Gravenstone
@HumboldtBlue: Gonna put money on the two with flags shaved into their sidewalls have MAGAts as parents…
Poe Larity
@Ken: I’d suggest to TFG that he open a Law School, but I’m afraid he’d actually get rich off it.
But it would end up with a lot of “lawyers” in jail, so there’s that.
Matt McIrvin
@The Moar You Know: Pretty sure she means DeSantis. Someone who will do dictator shit to own the libs.
Van Buren
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Will certainly have something to say about it.
@Sure Lurkalot: My pups certainly think so, and my kids will agree with them on occasion.
zhena gogolia
@Omnes Omnibus: nice
HumboldtBlue
@Gravenstone:
You know it.
Elsewhere: Here’s Oz interacting with a grocery store employee.
Kristine
@Van Buren: Good thoughts headed your way.
Cameron
@HumboldtBlue: Melding Scooby Doo and Donald Trump into the same cartoon sounds like the end of the universe to me.
eclare
@HumboldtBlue: Hahaha…love it!
Joe Falco
Wait, so is Fox’s wifi password 1122334455? That’s amazing!
Obligatory link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcHnf7VQuhc
cain
@Matt McIrvin:
He will never draw the crowds that Trump can. The man just comes off as a sour ass.
The Thin Black Duke
@cain: Sure he will. He hates the same people they do.
HumboldtBlue
@cain:
He’s got no charisma, no charm, and actually gives off the air of the wannabe autocrat authoritarian. Trump came with the past of being a known public figure who knew how to play the conman. He knows a mark, and has the showman’s act coupled with populist hate to draw the folks who want that hate to be front and center, to rallies.
lowtechcyclist
@Baud:
Won’t say FTFY, because who knows. But that sure better be the case, because while this is a good start, it’s just a start.
If we elect a few more Dem Senators this fall and hold the House, we can build on that. Time to go save the world.
matt
Oh, he just admitted he was hiding classified documents from the President. That’s pretty nice.
HumboldtBlue
The Phillies have mashed five homers for nine RBIs and the Reds have brought in a position player to get the final two outs of the top of the 9th inning.
Which, to his credit, he did.
Ken
@matt: I’m not surprised he goes through lawyers so fast. I’d guess half of them quit while screaming “Did I not tell you to keep your mouth shut”, and the other half have a stroke before they can make that call.
lgerard
@HumboldtBlue:
Cannot believe there is no woman’s division
Major oversight!
Honus
@Frank Wilhoit: here it is in all its awkward glory:
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
HumboldtBlue
@lgerard:
Good point.
James E Powell
@HumboldtBlue:
DeSantis has the political media. They love him without restraint or shame.
James E Powell
Only 10 percent of the voted counted, but Liz Cheney is getting waxed 2 to 1.
Frankensteinbeck
@The Thin Black Duke:
No, I think there’s more to it than that. Yes, the hate is the foundation of Republican voting, but Trump could let his asshole flag fly in a way no other Republican can. Ted Cruz is just as bigoted as Trump, but wouldn’t think to get up on stage and do a shaky mime mocking Parkinson’s Disease. He’s not bragging about how many women he’s sexually assaulted, either. Disgustis is delivering the hate, but he is a pale reflection of Trump’s angry, ranting, dumb-as-shit, asshole Your Racist Uncle impression that validates his voters so hard.
HumboldtBlue
@James E Powell:
The political media isn’t a Trump supporter. Trump connected with these people in a way no other Republican could or will. Hell, they are going to fucking jail for him for participating in a seditionist act that he led, encouraged and watched on TV.
DeSantis may be a flaming asshole, and in today’s GOP that’s the only way to get ahead, but I just don’t see his ugly, non-charming, non-slick, non-charisma ass getting anyone to turn out to a Kansas farm field on a rainy November night.
eversor
@Frankensteinbeck:
Cruz had the Christian vote until Falwell turned on him and pushed for Trump along with all the Trad Caths joining in. Trace conservatism, republicanism, Trumpism, and you always end back at the same place, in the Church. So again, unless we can tackle the Church all other political efforts are pointless.
Our problems have always come out of the pews. We can have Christianity or we can have our rights, we cannot have both.
HumboldtBlue
Sweet Jesus passing out lithium on the floor of the asylum, this woman is headed to the House of Representatives.
catclub
@David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:
OTOH, hero but slow learner Liz Cheney voted that way once.
catclub
@HumboldtBlue:
but I just don’t see his ugly, non-charming, non-slick, non-charisma ass getting anyone to turn out to a Kansas farm field on a rainy November night.
I think you missed the key one Trump has that Desantis does not.
Looks like billionaire to the rubes. The Apprentice etc did an amazing disservice to the country.
Jackie
@HumboldtBlue: Kevin must be thrilled to add her to the Caucus. She’s his kinda gal. Another cat to herd.
catclub
@The Moar You Know:
That is also getting it backwards. The GOP has no policies, and was willing to skip its party platform when Trump was running. Their platform was whatever Trump wants.
HumboldtBlue
@catclub:
Good point.
Villago Delenda Est
@eversor: A very warped version of “Christianity” is the problem. If people followed the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, things would be much better. But as Gandhi noted long ago, that’s very often not the case.
livewyre
@eversor: If we’re too preachy for you around here then you can always leave.
Calouste
So why did dimwit Donnie have his passports in Florida while he himself was in New Jersey for the summer? Seems rather inconvenient in case he needed one. Or does he have another set in New Jersey?
prostratedragon
@Calouste: Has he left the country this last year and change, even to visit one of his properties in Scotland?
J R in WV
@livewyre: eversore is the only person I have pled on both my laptop AND my Tablet!
I’m not sure why it hasn’t been banned already for violent raving.
brantl
@livewyre: WTF?