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You are here: Home / Popular Culture / KULCHA! / Late Night Open Thread: Historical Fantasy, Fun for the Whole Family

Late Night Open Thread: Historical Fantasy, Fun for the Whole Family

by Anne Laurie|  August 22, 20221:57 am| 36 Comments

This post is in: KULCHA!, Open Threads, Show Us on the Doll Where the Invisible Hand Touched You

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These days men would rather “shop in malls” than “chop up Gauls.” These days https://t.co/Zeag1uDZn6

— ??Dan Credentials?? (@CharlemagnumPI) August 20, 2022

The ‘American Conservative’ dreaming of a world where only a small fraction of upper-class men were considered citizens… and the normal people making fun of his Rome-anticism:

Pretty funny to position Romans, ROMANS, as anti-urbanist

— 🚩Dan Credentials🚩 (@CharlemagnumPI) August 20, 2022


For white supremacists

— We've met before, haven't we? (@PlankySmith) August 20, 2022

And in the interim they were forbidden to marry

— Matt Corbett (@CorbettMatt) August 19, 2022

You look at the bios of all the guys who tweet this stuff and realize you're dealing with the human equivalent of a steamed dumpling or perhaps macaroon https://t.co/gSA5dMGjx5

— your himbo boyfriend (@swolecialism) August 20, 2022

Because the real second half of ‘I want to be left alone in my small farm’ is ‘I want to be heavily publicly subsidized with resources & infrastructure & have disproportionate polticial influence to ensure that stays the case’

— William B. Fuckley (@opinonhaver) August 20, 2022

Yeah it’s all doing the behest of the richest people in the world to make them richer, but today it’s gay and bad

— ??Dan Credentials?? (@CharlemagnumPI) August 20, 2022

ETA:

https://t.co/Z1zxcnxoJp pic.twitter.com/dzwx08oNbp

— chatham harrison is tending his garden (@chathamharrison) August 20, 2022

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36Comments

  1. 1.

    lgerard

    August 22, 2022 at 2:26 am

    Where so you find these guys?

  2. 2.

    Emma from Miami

    August 22, 2022 at 2:49 am

    @lgerard: The bottom of the missing-the-match sock drawer?

  3. 3.

    NotMax

    August 22, 2022 at 2:54 am

    And of course this happened.

    48 hours before flying to NYC, stubbed a big toe really, really, really hard. Smeared some smurf jelly on and tightly taped the ever lovin’ heck out of it so now can (gingerly) do a simulation of walking without wincing, as long as take small steps. Ever so slightly swollen (I think; with my feet that’s always a coin toss) but no discoloration yet so may be closer to what passes for normal by Tuesday evening. Had to be a toe on the foot of the good leg, natch.

    /TMI

  4. 4.

    NotMax

    August 22, 2022 at 2:57 am

    Pretty funny to position Romans, ROMANS, as anti-urbanist

    Remus don’t get no respect.

    //

  5. 5.

    scav

    August 22, 2022 at 3:23 am

    Those Legionnaires spent a fair bit of time building public works & infrastructure (roads anyone?)

  6. 6.

    bjacques

    August 22, 2022 at 3:29 am

    The people called Romans they go house.

  7. 7.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    August 22, 2022 at 3:51 am

    As John Scalzi put it, these are the guys who’d get turned into Objectivist Jerky by the pitiless sociopaths who are actually equipped to live in the world they want to create.

  8. 8.

    eclare

    August 22, 2022 at 3:57 am

    @NotMax:   Oh I hope your toe feels better!

    Always use ice.  Put some ice or a bag of frozen peas on it for fifteen minutes as you elevate it.  Seriously, ice works wonders.

  9. 9.

    piratedan

    August 22, 2022 at 3:59 am

    So Micah seems to think identured military servitude is the way to… maybe he can get back to us after he served a hitch.

  10. 10.

    Amir Khalid

    August 22, 2022 at 4:03 am

    Harrumph.

    My New Guitar Day has suddenly turned into a No Guitar Day. I had ordered what I thought was a Les Paul type instrument with a set neck i.e. a neck glued to the guitar body, as in all the YouTube reviews I’ve seen. The guitar that arrived this morning has a bolt-on neck. The guitar is going back to the vendor tomorrow.

    I am angry.

  11. 11.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    August 22, 2022 at 4:05 am

    @piratedan: Having been conscripted, I would not recommend it as a way forward for any society.

  12. 12.

    Splitting Image

    August 22, 2022 at 4:18 am

    @piratedan:

    So Micah seems to think identured military servitude is the way to… maybe he can get back to us after he served a hitch.

    Indentured military servitude is the first step to re-introducing every other kind of indentured servitude. If they left it at only the military being able to do it, that would amount to giving the state a monopoly on the practice. And that would be wrong. Heaven knows libertarians are nothing if not ethical.

    It’s funny. This guy’s tweet is an exact mirror of the other guy asking people to move to red states. Both of them are talking about how great it would be for other people to do something they would never bother to do themselves, but they would benefit from if a bunch of suckers were to do it instead.

  13. 13.

    Calouste

    August 22, 2022 at 4:18 am

    @piratedan: I don’t think it’s a bad idea if we won’t hear from this guy for the next 25 years when he serves his hitch.

  14. 14.

    Baud

    August 22, 2022 at 4:43 am

    My historical fantasy is to be on board the first European ship that “discovered” Tahiti.

  15. 15.

    prostratedragon

    August 22, 2022 at 5:17 am

    You know who else idolized those ancient urbanists. In a moment, Dr. Jacoby will explain the attraction.

    @NotMax: Sorry to hear that, NM. Try the ice, you do have some time to reduce the throbbing. A day should work wonders.

  16. 16.

    raven

    August 22, 2022 at 5:59 am

    @NotMax: In 1990 on my second trip to the Hawaii I broke a toe body surfing at Makapuu. I stayed with my sis in LA for a couple of days and broke one on the other foot on her couch. Ice smish. It helps but it still won’t replace time. My bride is in week one of a 6-8 week sentence in a walking boot right now.

  17. 17.

    grandmaBear

    August 22, 2022 at 6:34 am

    @raven: I wish her good luck. I was told 6-8 weeks after I broke my fibula last February. I didn’t get the boot off for 3 1/2 months. My old bones took longer to heal than originally expected.

  18. 18.

    mrmoshpotato

    August 22, 2022 at 6:37 am

    @Splitting Image:

    It’s funny. This guy’s tweet is an exact mirror of the other guy asking people to move to red states. Both of them are talking about how great it would be for other people to do something they would never bother to do themselves, but they would benefit from if a bunch of suckers were to do it instead. 

    Hahaha!  Yup!

    Oh?  You want that?  You first!

    What?!  No!  I meant other people go do that!

  19. 19.

    raven

    August 22, 2022 at 6:41 am

    @grandmaBear: Thanks. Yea, this is a small fracture in her foot so we’re hoping. She broke her fibula about 15 years ago and THAT was a bitch. We’re both retired and she can get up to her studio but the garden is going to be a big problem. She got hurt walking Artie and now long walks are out because I can’t go very far either!

  20. 20.

    David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    August 22, 2022 at 6:50 am

    I nominate “Urban Core” for rotating tag line

  21. 21.

    David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    August 22, 2022 at 6:53 am

    I mean, what have the Romans ever done for us?

  22. 22.

    Barbara

    August 22, 2022 at 6:53 am

    This is so  ahistorical it beggars belief.  Roman citizen soldiers were more likely to lose rather than gain land from being in the military.

  23. 23.

    eversor

    August 22, 2022 at 7:28 am

    @lgerard:

    Church!  Not a joke at all either.  But TAC is nothing but graduates of Christian colleges right now (mostly Hillsdale) bleeting out articles about how Christianity is the true west and also required for civilization, screaming for a mix of Franco/Orban, how Democracy destroyed traditional gender and sexual values and is thus really really bad, and how rural peoples should be in charge of everything because they are more in love with Jesus than the rest of the nation.

    Micah is pretty tame compared to say Dreher or Declan.  But they all churn out articles that say “Slavery and Native American genocide may seem bad but since they got Christianity out of it actually they were really really good because now they have Jesus.  In the end, it’s Christianity that counts.”

    Spoiler alert for those who don’t follow the shit show that is Christianity, all these assholes live in places like Northern Virginia or outside of NYC and not a damn one of them would last a night in the woods.

    Also Richardson and Andrews love to rant about how women should just spend all their time at home and not work, because Jesus, despite both of them being editors in their day job!  But that’s OK, because they are working for Jesus.

  24. 24.

    lowtechcyclist

    August 22, 2022 at 7:50 am

    @NotMax:

    Remus don’t get no respect.

    Until he makes you say ‘Uncle’.  ;^)

  25. 25.

    Subsole

    August 22, 2022 at 7:53 am

    I would pay good, folding American dollerydoos to watch this guy muck stalls and slop hogs for a month. Probably lose a finger the first time he took his eye off the brood sow.

    Also, this dipstick genuinely does not understand that back then farmers were the great-unwashed condo-paying corporate drones, does he.

  26. 26.

    Subsole

    August 22, 2022 at 8:03 am

    Also, too: is it really so much to ask that these people just fuck off to a monastery and stop inflicting their insecurities on the rest of us?

    Like, dude, I am genuinely sorry your parents never taught you that men can work with their minds as well as their hands. I am sorry that you don’t have more faith in your dick. Truly. But y’all need to go see a therapist and stop trying to collapse civilization over it.

  27. 27.

    WaterGirl

    August 22, 2022 at 8:08 am

    @Amir Khalid: What a disappointment!

  28. 28.

    apocalipstick

    August 22, 2022 at 8:22 am

    @Amir Khalid: Wow. That’s a real ‘oopsie’. The YT videos said it had a set neck? How was the vendor going to finesse that?

  29. 29.

    different-church-lady

    August 22, 2022 at 8:28 am

    Looks like someone didn’t understand the satire in Fight Club…

  30. 30.

    Ben Cisco

    August 22, 2022 at 8:41 am

    @Splitting Image: The cognitive dissonance of these keyboard warriors imploring other people to volunteer for servitude would be jarring, except for the fact that it’s these assholes asking.

  31. 31.

    eversor

    August 22, 2022 at 9:05 am

    @Subsole:

    It has zero to do with any of that, he’s Christian.   All of TACs articles are by upper middle class Christians screaming about modernity because it is less religious.  Followed up by a healthy dose of “look at these noble rural hicks over there, they still love Jesus and traditional biblical gender roles”.

    The fit they are throwing is simple.  Middle class folk, educated folk, and professional folk aren’t Christian anymore and they hate this.  They hate that their social peers don’t Jesus.   So their solution to this is to talk up the noble proles who should get their fascism so all the rest of us get Jesus and are forced to indoctrinate our kids into the cult of the cross.

    TAC (the rag he writes for), Fox News, National Conservatism, Republicanism, Trumpism, all of it is bad because of Christianity.  That religion dominates or destroys everything it touches so no fights are winnable as long as it’s even remotely tolerated on any level at all.   If you aren’t anti Christian than you are enabling all this nonsense.  Good thing the younger generations are fleeing the church in droves and actively hostile to it.   That’s a start, but the hostility needs to grow and get much more vicious before any of our problems are fixable.   Cut out the cancer.

  32. 32.

    Yutsano

    August 22, 2022 at 9:52 am

    @eversor: I’m just going to say right now that this is probably the most antithetical statement to American values I have ever heard on this blog. It also means I can’t take you seriously. ​

  33. 33.

    Damien

    August 22, 2022 at 10:27 am

    @Yutsano: I’m gonna say that maybe “the power of the government should enforce our interpretation of religious doctrine” is a bit more anti-American. And if you don’t think that it’s Christianity specifically creating that problem currently, I have some crackers for you that I hear turn absolutely divine in your mouth.

    Every time this comes up people point out the good things churches do, and the rich history, community, and importance of Black churches, and I’m not going to sit and argue that every single Russian…excuse me Christian, is trying to take over this country by force in order to institute Herrenvolk fascism. Just saying that it sure seems that nationally it’s the Christians making those moves for the last fifty years.

    As someone they consider a hero once said “I don’t care what you do in private, as long as you don’t do it in the street and scare the horses.”

  34. 34.

    Paul in KY

    August 22, 2022 at 10:50 am

    While on a great vacay at beach, I read Caesar’s commentary on his Gallic campaigns. Very matter-of-a-fact writing by him. Interesting how easily the Gauls could be inflamed by completely unsubstantiated rumours and thus make trouble that they and their women/kids would end up paying terribly for.

    Was also surprised by the lack of targeted assassinations aimed at Caesar.  Maybe that was considered ‘uncool’ or ‘weak’ by the Gauls. Getting rid of him sure would have helped their cause.

  35. 35.

    Bill Arnold

    August 22, 2022 at 11:13 am

    @eversor:
    You are a (militantly religious atheist) bigot. (If it is not clear, I Am Not A Christian. Irrelevant. Neither are most US Christian Supremacists.)

  36. 36.

    oatler

    August 22, 2022 at 11:36 am

    @bjacques:

    I know it’s Python but it’s the way my high school Latin teacher sarcastically mocked our mistranslations.

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