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Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.

You are so fucked. Still, I wish you the best of luck.

White supremacy is terrorism.

Fuck the extremist election deniers. What’s money for if not for keeping them out of office?

I did not have this on my fuck 2022 bingo card.

Spilling the end game before they can coat it in frankl luntz-approved dogwhistles.

I wonder if trump will be tried as an adult.

Republican speaker of the house Mike Johnson: the bland and smiling face of evil.

It’s easy to sit in safety and prescribe what other people should be doing.

Wow, I can’t imagine what it was like to comment in morse code.

Israel, don’t be dumb like we were in the US after 9/11!

The new temporary speaker of the house is a spiteful little shit.

A sufficient plurality of insane, greedy people can tank any democratic system ever devised, apparently.

Let there be snark.

Republicans do not pay their debts.

Speaking of republicans, is there a way for a political party to declare intellectual bankruptcy?

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Despite his magical powers, I don’t think Trump is thinking this through, to be honest.

The Giant Orange Man Baby is having a bad day.

There are a lot more evil idiots than evil geniuses.

It may be funny to you motherfucker, but it’s not funny to me.

… pundit janitors mopping up after the GOP

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The Repubs are so desperate, they’re importing *new fan faves* that Vance can open for…

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  7. 7.

    RaflW

    re: Bringing in Ron DeSantis to ‘help’ JD Vance, who besides me is shocked, shocked I say, to learn that Ron spoke 95% about himself in his appearance for the Hillbilly faker?

    Asking someone that slimily ambitious, who we all know is aching to run for president, to come campaign for you and thinking you’ll get anything but a stump speech for themselves? Hahahahah. Poor Vance. Tsk tsk.

  8. 8.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    “We’ve already signed legislation banning things like Confucius institutes at our universities. We are very mindful of them trying to infiltrate our economy. We’re going to be doing legislation to block them from purchasing land,” said DeSantis.

    You know what’s funny? Is that the US Republican Party and the CCP have a lot more in common than either would be willing to admit. It’s hilarious how much American right-wingers hate China, yet they both have very similar reactionary policies like trying to censor LGBTQ+ media, etc

  9. 9.

    Ken

    @dmsilev: At the risk of sounding like a libertarian, I think this needs to be measured on two dimensions: How bad the candidate is, and how bad the campaign is.

    I think Vance is a reasonably good campaigner, but he’s a terrible candidate (see numerous tweets above).

    Oz might be a slightly better candidate, but is doing a terrible job selling himself.

  10. 10.

    geg6

    @RaflW:

    He did the same shit at his appearance here in Pittsburgh for Mastriano (notably, not with Oz).

    And Betty should read the Matt Steib piece in NYMag about DeSantis and his new stance and weird arms.  Not only is he morphing into a mini-Trump what with the weird head and fattening up, but now he’s standing like him and holding his arms weirdly..  I LOLed for real.

  11. 11.

    lowtechcyclist

    It’s a small thing, I know, but I love the “If I can’t beat Ryan, no one can” bit.

    Congrats, JD. You’re in a two-horse race with Tim Ryan.  You’ve managed to figure out how these things work.

  13. 13.

    geg6

    @Ken:

    Hard disagree. He’s a terrible capaigner.  He sat it out all summer, vacationing in one of his many US homes and taking a trip to Europe, I believe.  And have you heard him speak?  He’s awful.

  17. 17.

    Ken

    @geg6: I’ll make the after-the-fact excuse that I meant Vance’s ability to raise funds and get endorsements — even if that does seem to be largely driven by the sunk-cost fallacy

    @Danielx: Imagine zooming in on the lower-left corner of the chart. Zoom further, further, further… eventually you can see that the two dots for Vance and Oz, apparently both double-zeros, are slightly displaced from the origin.

  23. 23.

    sab

    @geg6: I live in Ryan’s district and for the 20 years he’s been our congressman he never stopped campaigning in the district, even in years when he had minimal opposition. He has never taken us for granted.

    ETA It was a long skinny gerrymandered district. Ryan lives in the east end near Goku. I live on the western edge in Akron. Ryan has always been active around Akron although it is over an hour drive from his home. We know his heart is in Mahoning Valley, but he never ignored us in the Cuyahoga Valley.

  24. 24.

    geg6

    @Ken:

    The problem is that he can’t raise funds, which is why Mitch had to parachute in with giant bags of money.  Vance sucks in every way.

  25. 25.

    Jeffro

    Hey if DeSantis’ visit doesn’t bump up Vance’s poll numbers, maybe Glenn Youngkin can stop by and tell the world Ohioans how much he loves the guy, just like he did a day or two ago with anti-abortion psycho Tudor “Having your rapist’s baby instead of aborting it will somehow help you heal from the rape, dontchaknow” Dixon up in Michigan.

    Vance doesn’t worry me so much (although I hope, and know, Ryan runs through the finish line).  Smilin’ Glenn?  I need him out of the mix for 2024 and going forward.

  26. 26.

    geg6

    @sab:

    I know the area well.  Not far from here and my mom was born in Youngstown.  My niece by another mother (my actual niece’s best friend) is a senior at YSU.  He is a pretty authentic guy who fits his district well and that can be attractive all over OH.  I’ve been throwing a little cash his way.  It would be great if he won.  Senators Brown, Ryan, Casey and Fetterman could do a lot for the region.

  27. 27.

    JWR

    @geg6:

    And Betty should read the Matt Steib piece in NYMag about DeSantis

    Here’s the NYMag Matt Stieb DeSantis article. And no, I don’t believe that’s all him inside that bulky suit. Of course he could always be mimicking TFG in his eating habits as well. Anyway:

    In his rise to national prominence since the beginning of the pandemic, Florida governor Ron DeSantis has adopted several of Donald Trump’s prominent stances, including his war on public-health measures and his demands for fealty to his administration. As DeSantis’s star in the GOP rises further, another likeness is becoming more and more obvious: He appears to be adopting Trump’s literal bizarre stance.

    You know the one: flat feet, arched back, hunched forward like he’s carrying invisible bags of groceries that are about to break. A picture from Turning Point’s Student Action Summit last month that has been making the Twitter rounds shows off the posture that was formerly unique to the Trump family.

  28. 28.

    RSA

    @JWR:  Thanks for the link.

    And no, I don’t believe that’s all him inside that bulky suit.

    He and the Trump males are like Vincent D’Onofrio in Men in Black.  This human-being-disguise is kind of uncomfortable…

  30. 30.

    Barbara

    Vance started a charity to address opioid abuse and the only available doctor to lead the organization was Sally Satel? It’s like there’s a RWNJ Rolodex of approved grifters in every discipline and they just keep hiring the same people over and over again.

  31. 31.

    sab

    I will give JD Vance credit for having a lovely wife. My initial reaction when the first ad with her ran was ” Uh oh. Yikes! ” But then all the other stuff blew up, like his fake opioid charity with the pro-pharma doctor, and his silence on the CHIPS Act. And not returning big donors phone calls.

  33. 33.

    sab

    @Barbara:I think there are approved rolodexes. All judges have to be cleared through Federalist Society and all policy people have to be cleared through American Emterprise Institute. And state level legislation is written by ALEC. It’s a really constricted talent pool they work with.

  36. 36.

    Geminid

    @geg6: Republicans came out of the winter believing that the midterms would see a big red wave. I think Vance and Oz bought into the overconfidence and figured that once they won their nominations they would have a cakewalk. Now they realize they have to really campaign and they don’t know how.

    trump really screwed the Republicans with his endorsements. At least one astute Ohio jackal thought Mike Gibbons was Tim Ryan’s greatest threat, and Vance his weakest. And while John Fetterman is a formidable candidate, I thought David McCormick might have had an outside chance against him. Oz has none.

    Sad!

  39. 39.

    Geminid

     

     

    @Lapassionara: trump’s got the look. That’s one reason I do not think he’ll be a candidate for President as of January 1, 2024.

    trump has a rally with Oz and Mastriano scheduled for September 3. It could be interesting.

  42. 42.

    RaflW

    @dmsilev: At least Dr. Mehmet gets some name recognition out of his ill-earned media. I feel like Vance is nigh-on invisible outside Ohio.

  46. 46.

    RaflW

    @Ken: Vance raised about $330,000 a month from individual donors in the last three month filing period. That’s awful for a top-tier Senate candidate vying for a flippable seat.

  47. 47.

    BigJimSlade

    @JWR: To go full Trump, we’re going to need to see a clip of him (DeSatanis) attempting to dance a little bit.

  50. 50.

    sab

    @Kathleen: That’s the first good ( i.e. big enough to read) view of the map I have seen. What a travesty.

    Cities just don’t count at all with these people.

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