Just out of curiosity, are there any charities or anything focusing on getting cold weather gear for the soldiers of Ukraine. Russian winters are rough.
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cthulhu
https://www.mriyaaid.org/
They are a verified clearinghouse for a bunch of non-lethal aid to Ukraine (While the site currently doesn’t note cold weather gear specifically, I think they are working on that as well). And there is a great 24/7 associated Twitter space broadcast on related matters (@MyriaReport)
lahke
Because the Ukrainians will be invading Russia? Not sure I’m tracking you here.
HumboldtBlue
@lahke:
No, I believe it’s because winter is coming, and Ukrainian forces need equipment to continue the fight, particularly foul weather gear.
sab
@lahke: Ukraine does have actual winter with snow and below freezing temperatures.
lahke
@sab: yeah, but Cole said “Russian winters “. Not being part of Russia is the whole point here.
Edited to grab the exact quote.
sab
@lahke: I see your point.
ian
@lahke: Without assuming to know what JC is thinking, I would guess it is a play on how fast Ukraine is advancing.
opiejeanne
@lahke: I thought that was what he was getting at, too.
lowtechcyclist
@sab:
Ukraine is roughly between 47 and 52 degrees north latitude. The 49th parallel marks the western half of the border of the 48 contiguous states, so think North Dakota and southern Saskatchewan/Manitoba. (Think I’ll go out to Alberta, weather’s good there in the fall…)
Yutsano
Jeebus. I saw the title and thought Vladdie had somehow invaded Finland!
raven
I’ve got a pair of Mickey Mouse boots I could donate!
J R in WV
I’m pretty sure I have read of winter gear being included among US support being sent over on Adam’s detailed reports. HIMARS ammo and 155mm howitzers are more exciting to write/read about, but boots, gloves, parkas, long underware are important too.
Winter IS coming, and my gas and water lines failed over the weekend. What to do? 800 feet of line to the meter… near the well. Darn!
zhena gogolia
@opiejeanne: Yes, I think it’s a subtle joke.
Geminid
@J R in WV: The US might also send snowmobiles and sets of cross country skis. The Finns made good use of ski mounted troops in their Winter War with Russia, 1930-40..
Good luck with the lines. I hope the fix is not too costly.
Kenneth Tiven
The Finns beat the Russian invasion in 1939-940. Read it if you can find it THE WINTER WAR by Eloise Engle and Lauri Paananen, 19773. A determined small nation held the Russians to a draw. This time a small nation with the help of modern weapons from NATO and the USA is doing more than that. Ultimately the conflict will end with a new Russian government and maybe less appetite for pretending to be powerful.
sab
@zhena gogolia: Thanks for the “subtle” so I feel less embarrassed that I missed it.
Geminid
@Kenneth Tiven: The Winter War was covered in less detail in The Deadly Embrace: Hitler, Stalin and the Nazi Soviet Pact, 1939-1941 (1988) by Anthony Summers and David Fisher. The authors describe the the Russian territorial demands whose refusal triggered the Russian invasion and the negotiations ending in their rejection.
The Finnish Army did thrash the initial invading force, inflicting heavy casualties, but large Soviet reinforcements made the Finns seek terms and surrender much larger territories than the Soviets had previously demanded.
According to Summers and Fisher, Finnish General Mannerheim(sp?) recomended that the civilian governmtent accept the deal Russia offered before the war: a swap of Finnish territory near Leningrad, plus a strategic island in the Gulf of Bothnia, for Soviet territory further north. The government stood firm, and Mannerheim led a stalwart defense until his army was steamrolled by massive Soviet reinforcements.
The Finn’s intiatial success was one factor that led Hitler to underrate Soviet military capabilities. Kick the door in, he told his generals, and the whole house will collapse.
dr. luba
All possible joking aside, Ukrainian winters, while not Russian winters, can be much like winter in the northern USA in northern areas of the country. In the south, not so much.
Even so, back in 2014 we had many fundraisers to buy winter gear for the Ukrainian military–boots, warm clothing, warm knapsacks. I sent a set of full winter gear to a friend on the front. He passed in on to another soldier when he was injured at Debaltsevo and sent to Lviv for care.
Nettoyeur
I am worried about UKR civilians…. no windows, no heat, no electricity… My guess is that serving soldiers are necessarily getting more attention…..
ghost cat
This request for donations is unvetted:
https://twitter.com/LichtRonny/status/1571236490683850755
Tehanu
@lowtechcyclist:
Such a great song. I loved Ian and Sylvia.
ghost cat
FYI in case you’re still checking this thread:
Aid Earmarked for Ukraine Includes Cold Weather Gear
“Pentagon Press Secretary Air Force Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder said the security assistance brings the total given to Ukraine to $15.1 billion since Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24, 2022.
“This tranche of military systems, equipment and gear includes cold weather gear for Ukrainian service members, Ryder said.”
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NATO calls on allies to supply winter uniforms for Ukrainian army
“NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg urged allies on Friday to supply Kyiv with winter gear such as clothing, tents and generators to enable Ukrainian troops to keep on fighting Russia’s invasion in the cold season.”