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  3. 3.

    Jeffro

    @ALurkSupreme: yes, thank goodness!

    Ben Dreyer has been having fits on Twitter over the past few Wordles.  I don’t get it – they can’t all be easy ones.  =)

    (Managed to get Worldle in the nick of time today, too)

  4. 4.

    Jeffro

    Btw yesterday was “Talk Like A Pirate Day” and my brother informs me that today is “National Pepperoni Pizza Day.”

    Tomorrow is “National Earth, Wind, and Fire Day”.

    Anyone know why?

    Or should I say, do you remember why?  =)

  5. 5.

    nevsky42

    Chipped in $100 to the Purple District thermometer; unfortunately, my district has a Proud Boy sympathizer repping it even though it includes Charlottesville but we’re gerrymandered out of the running.  Of the Virginia tossups, Spanberger is looking OK so focusing on Luria makes tactical sense…

  6. 6.

    Anonymous At Work

    1. Any word on how many Republicans will cry crocodile tears and refuse to pass the PERA?  Suzy, I’m very concerned about looking in your direction.
    2. And sure, multiple calls in 3 states and at the federal level for an investigation into kidnapping and human trafficking against government officials, so they book new flights.
  7. 7.

    lowtechcyclist

    Neither Liz Cheney (at least not in that clip) nor Tom Nichols explains what part of the Constitution would be violated by filing a false objection.  And I must admit I’m stumped on this one.  Anyone got a clue about this?

  9. 9.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    In a front page Plain Dealer article today about Trump’s recent rally and the continued fealty the Ohio Republican Party has for Trump, the writer had this little tidbit to share, above the fold:

    Tellingly, the attendance from top Republicans is opposite from the approach taken this year by top Ohio Democrats, like U.S. Rep Tim Ryan, the Democratic Senate candidate who’s largely avoided President Joe Biden throughout the year.

    What is this reporter trying to say with that “tellingly”?

  12. 12.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    Listening to TFG reminds me of a scene on the original Star Trek in which Kirk broke a robot by saying “I am lying.” (Zeno’s paradox, I think.) The robot tried to make sense of that and broke its brain.

  15. 15.

    The Moar You Know

    NEW: Cheney & Lofgren unveil their 38-page Presidential Election Reform Act to overhaul the laws on counting electoral votes and to prevent another Jan. 6.

    Hmm.  This seems possibly to be the most important piece of legislation that this Congress – hell, any Congress in American history – will address.  Normally I’d say it would warrant a great deal of attention.

    Not this time.  I just want it to pass, very quickly, get signed and then see it get the media spotlight and have the Republicans start howling about it.

  17. 17.

    lowtechcyclist

    One of the planes used in DeSantis’ Martha’s Vineyard stunt is currently scheduled to travel tomorrow from San Antonio, to Florida, to a small airport near Biden’s house in Delaware

    The Dem response should be to have watchers at the San Antonio and Crestview, FL airports to see if migrants are boarded onto the plane at either location.  And should be ready to have a reception committee on the tarmac at the Georgetown, DE airport, waiting with drinks, snacks, and informational sheets in Spanish and English, saying where they’ll be bused to for lodging and more comprehensive assistance.

  18. 18.

    JPL

    trump is considering campaigning in GA for Herschel.  I’m sure this is good news for the republicans in other races.

    btw the AJC has a poll out with Walker ahead by 2 and Kemp by 8.   I read that they oversampled the GOP though.   Marist poll is better with Kemp up by six and Warnock by 5, but even that one is undercounting females.   Females have been voting at 50 plus percentage for years and with women’s healthcare on the forefront, that should only increase turnout.

  20. 20.

    SFAW

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    “Norman, coordinate!” A great episode.

    By the way, Zeno’s paradox has to do with running a race, it’s something like “But first, the runner has to get to the halfway point, but before that, he has to get to the quarter-way point” ad infinitum

  21. 21.

    The Moar You Know

    Isn’t there any way to stop Gov DeathSentence and Abbortion from doing this shit?

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): not really, plus it’s not like they’re converting anyone who is “on the fence”.  In fact, they’re kind of shooting themselves in their collective dicks with some demographics who would normally vote for them without a second thought.

    “Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake”

    ETA:  I REALLY like the idea above of having the plane be met with a welcoming committee.  Might I also suggest a huge “Mission Accomplished” style banner that says “Welcome To Freedom” with giant American flags or some such statement implying that Florida and Texas are both slave labor gulags.  Which would be bending the truth only by a little bit.

  23. 23.

    SFAW

    @Baud: ​
     
    And here I was hoping for an “I am the way”-like response from you.
    Oh, well, I guess I’ll toddle off to try to multiply six times nine.

  26. 26.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Jeffro:

    I don’t get it – they can’t all be easy ones.  =)

    Tru dat, but the selling point is that these are common words.  ‘Parer’ and ‘trice’ aren’t common words.  ‘Fjord’ was hard, but it is a common word, so it’s fair game.

  27. 27.

    lowtechcyclist

    @MobiusKlein:

    the response should Federal agents boarding the plane on landing and questioning the crew

    Yeah, that too, but if they’ve got a planeload of migrants, whether they’re seeking asylum or not, whether they’re here legally or not, let’s be sure to welcome them with food, drink, and assistance right where the plane pulls up, (a) because aiding them is the right thing to do, and (b) doing it right there makes it hard for anyone to pretend that it didn’t happen.

  28. 28.

    RSA

    @lowtechcyclist:

    Tru dat, but the selling point is that these are common words.

    That may be what people say now, but if I remember correctly, Josh Wardle’s partner ran through the list of 13,000 words and marked them as words she knew, maybe knew, or didn’t know.  So it’s in a sense pretty arbitrary.

  29. 29.

    SFAW

    @lowtechcyclist:

    ‘Parer’ and ‘trice’ aren’t common words.

    Well, they are for those of us who actually talk good English.
    Examples of common usage:
    I won that hand  with a parer Aces.
    Barack Obama won the Presidential election trice.​
     
    ETA: Although SubaruDianne and Steve in the WTFKW might disagree.

  30. 30.

    lowtechcyclist

    @The Moar You Know:

    This seems possibly to be the most important piece of legislation that this Congress – hell, any Congress in American history – will address.

    I dunno, passing the Bill of Rights was a pretty big deal. ;-)

  33. 33.

    The Moar You Know

    Yeah, that too, but if they’ve got a planeload of migrants, whether they’re seeking asylum or not, whether they’re here legally or not, let’s be sure to welcome them with food, drink, and assistance right where the plane pulls up, (a) because aiding them is the right thing to do, and (b) doing it right there makes it hard for anyone to pretend that it didn’t happen.

    @lowtechcyclist: I agree wholeheartedly, and at the least it’ll get those jerks to quit sending out videographers with their Reverse Freedom Rides aircraft.

    If the term seems strange to you, do Google “Reverse Freedom Rides”.  This is exactly what Abbott and DeSantis are doing with these flights.  That it was an idea that was originated by the KKK should surprise nobody.

  37. 37.

    Ken

    @Jeffro: According to Google’s front page, today is also national voter registration day. Maybe some registration sites will be handing out pepperoni pizza too.

  40. 40.

    marklar

    @Baud: I’ve been meaning to say this for a while, but your posts are consistently sharp, witty, and well informed (on so many topics).  People often give thanks to the Frontpagers for the terrific work they do, but I think the same should be done for some frequent commenters who also make this blog worth reading.

    I want to be you when I grow up.  I’ve already switched from pants to shorts to help with my evolution!

  46. 46.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Ken:

    According to Google’s front page, today is also national voter registration day. Maybe some registration sites will be handing out pepperoni pizza too. 

    I’ll register twice.

  48. 48.

    mrmoshpotato

    @marklar:

    I’ve been meaning to say this for a while, but your posts are consistently sharp, witty, and well informed (on so many topics).

    How much is Baud paying you? 😁

    ETA – I see Ozark beat me to it.

  53. 53.

    Jeffro

    @Steeplejack: 110%

    It’s um not exactly the sound of raging, virile, ‘Murican masculinity, and it kind of cracks me up that his MAGAts see him as this pillar of strength when he whispers and coos at them like that.  Blech, but also LOL

  54. 54.

    Betty Cracker

    @Steeplejack: That was weird. Also the Qanon soundtrack and Nazi-like salutes. It was inevitable that a wounded malignant narcissist who sees the wider world grow bored with his grievances would gravitate to the cult he inspired. He’s addicted to being seen as a heroic figure, and the cult lets him mainline that.

    I’m not sure how alarmed we should be about it. The cult has already inspired murder and terrorism, but does it rise to the level of a serious national security threat? I honestly don’t know.

  56. 56.

    marklar

    @OzarkHillbilly: “How much did Baud give you to post that?”

    There are quite a few of you that I hold in similar regard.  I could try to list all of you, but would probably miss one or two. I don’t want anybody I miss to feel like they don’t belong on the list, and Christian God forbid they become ever sore.

  57. 57.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    Just got back from a zumba class. The teacher is Russian, and her mom and sister are still in Moscow. Earlier in the war, she was worried her mom was going to go out and demonstrate against it. Anyway, last week they met in Tel Aviv and my teacher helped mom go to the American embassy and apply for a US visa. Then mom went back to Moscow and daughter came home. I assume if the visa comes through, the mom will work out a way to come here.

    I’m not sure what that’s relevant to, but I was interested

  58. 58.

    Mike E

    Liz saying Orange Jesus gave me a vision of the previous OJ fleeing on a widely televised ride to try to escape his fate, a reality show tour de force…may it happen again soon!

  60. 60.

    lowtechcyclist

    @The Moar You Know:

    If the term seems strange to you, do Google “Reverse Freedom Rides”.  This is exactly what Abbott and DeSantis are doing with these flights.  That it was an idea that was originated by the KKK should surprise nobody.

    Yeah, they’ve been frequently brought up in the corners of the Web that I hang out in other than here.  The KKK was leaving them in Hyannis Port, IOW dumping them in JFK’s lap.

  61. 61.

    Roger Moore

    @Anonymous At Work:

    And sure, multiple calls in 3 states and at the federal level for an investigation into kidnapping and human trafficking against government officials, so they book new flights.

    I think the basic issue is they want the publicity.  You say “people are suggesting prosecution for human trafficking”, and they hear “you’re triggering the libs”.  They would love to be prosecuted for this, at least as long as the indictiment drops before November, because they think the publicity would help them with their base in the upcoming election.  I’m not saying we shouldn’t prosecute, but we should understand what their plan is.

  62. 62.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Betty Cracker: ​

    He’s addicted to being seen as a heroic figure

    And absolutely obsessed with believing he’s still president. He’s actually getting more crazed about it as time goes past. It’s predictable for a narcissist, but disturbing as Hell to watch.

  63. 63.

    the pollyanna from hell

    I live half-mile from walmart. I needed a bicycle fast on Sunday, so went to BigLots that’s even closer to get their very last one of any kind. Sized for a tween, it has a Margaritaville label cuing an electric blue paint job with pastel green and orange tropical vegetation high-lights. Bargain Hunt next door supplied their last existing air pump, and at the second door beyond that, Harbor Freight came in with the chain lock in exactly the same shiny blue. I left my old decrepit tools in denver, so I was not reluctant to buy the forty or fifty dollars worth (in complete sets!) that it took, working in front of the store, to flip up the handles, raise the seat, reattach the cute little basket, etc. People stop me in the street to say how pretty it is.
    My boycott against the monopoly chain remains intact. And now I know why I’ve seen so few ten-speeds in Rome GA. I was not carefully looking for it, but I don’t remember seeing a street, and especially not a busy street, where I would feel safe and easy on a bike.

  66. 66.

    Geminid

    @Betty Cracker: I think the danger turns on the question, is trump’s hard core following increasing or decreasing? I think it’s been slowly decreasing since he left office, but that’s a gut feling with no good metrics to back it up. Except maybe some polling showing a decreasing majority of Republicans who want him to run in 2024.

    Even if there has been a decrease they are still dangerous because some will resort to violence when they know they are losing electorally and in popular opinion

    I’m hoping some of the others throw up their hands and just quit politics. A lot of them were never civic minded to begin with, and just got pulled in by anger.

  69. 69.

    Roger Moore

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: ​
     

    Zeno’s paradox, I think.

    Pedant mode on. “I am lying” (or rather “All Cretans are liars” in the original version) is the Epimenides Paradox. Zeno’s paradox is that in order to travel a distance, you first have to travel half that distance, then half that distance, and so on, so travel should be impossible as it requires an infinite number of sub-journeys.
    Interestingly, both these paradoxes have forced mathematicians to think very deeply about their subjects and encouraged some really important developments in modern mathematics. Zeno’s paradox forced mathematicians to think hard about infinities, and Epimenides’s paradox was important for the development of formal logic and is at the core of Goedel’s incompleteness theorem.

  70. 70.

    Ken

    @Geminid: As noted a few days ago, his people are now booking much smaller venues — around 5,000 people for recent shows — and still not filling them.

  72. 72.

    CaseyL

    The GOP’s spending so much on keeping their own base energized makes me wonder what their internal polls look like. I mean, wouldn’t they normally just take those votes for granted?

  77. 77.

    p.a.

    The new laws have been written with the aim of preventing congresscritters, the VP etc from overturning the states’ electors as the Rethugs are trying to game the process in multiple states to facilitate fraud electors being sent to D.C.

    Necessary laws, but possibly fighting the last war.😳

  79. 79.

    artem1s

    There is a thing that the media isn’t reporting about these student debt relief programs and deferred payment programs during the pandemic. No one who has consolidated their loans with a loan service agency is eligible for a pandemic refund or debt relief. Anyone who was granted loan by a private institution is ineligible. Unless you went to a state university and your loans are still managed by the Dept of Education, you are not eligible. I have been going round and round with my loan service company and they are in full stonewall mode. They are running out the clock hoping that borrowers pay off their loans before the program/s are extended to those who don’t have ED managed loans. The loan consolidation system is itself one of the many problems that occurred when the Feds handed over the management of these loans to the banks and private sector. The communication around whose loans are and aren’t eligible for these programs is thick as mud too. It’s going to produce a lot of bad feelings. There is a good reason Biden’s administration has taken so long to get to this point. It’s not as simple as everyone assumes and what they can do isn’t going to help very many people. The system needs to be changed to provide the debt relief at the beginning of the process, not after the fact. More availability of grant funds and less reliance on loans, forbearance, deferments and forgiveness is what they need to be working towards. But the ‘fuck you, I got mine’ crowd will continue to dominate the conversation and the next class of graduates will end up right back where we started with all of this.

  80. 80.

    lowtechcyclist

    @The Moar You Know:

    Might I also suggest a huge “Mission Accomplished” style banner that says “Welcome To Freedom” with giant American flags or some such statement implying that Florida and Texas are both slave labor gulags.  Which would be bending the truth only by a little bit.

    YEAH!!!  Me like.

  82. 82.

    Betty Cracker

    @Frankensteinbeck: Yep. I don’t think he enjoyed the job or even really did it, but he enjoyed the ass-kissing, and he can’t bear to be seen as the loser he is. So the delusion will continue until he finally drops dead.

    @Geminid: I share that feeling, though if the polls are accurate, Republicans would still pick Tangerine Baal over any other contender, including DeSantis. Still hoping for a steel-cage deathmatch between those two, preferably before 11/8.

  83. 83.

    Ken

    @rikyrah: “We were going to follow our usual legal strategy of never getting pinned down on specifics and delaying things forever, and now you want detailed answers on Tuesday?”

  85. 85.

    Betty Cracker

    @CaseyL: I’m glad you said that because I was looking at it in a “glass half empty” way, i.e., that Republicans like DeSantis are so confident that the snarling base will carry the day that they aren’t worried about their cruel stunts turning off independents and moderates. (I was thinking this specifically in the context of DeSantis, who needs to be a one-term gov and zero-term prez.)

  89. 89.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    @rikyrah: His team filed a response saying “We don’t want to, cuz it might incriminate our guy.” I don’t see how the Special Master is supposed to decide on the fate of those documents without knowing what TFG is claiming about them.

  90. 90.

    CaseyL

    @Betty Cracker: Well, I did wonder :)

    Their most fervent voters don’t watch anything but RWNews, in whatever configuration. So I imagine these kidnappings are getting lots of adulatory airplay there.

    It’s been fascinating, BTW, to see so many RWers set up their own “news” channels. Charlie Kirk and Mike Lindell have their own YouTube channels, plus I don’t know how many “RWNews,” “TruthNews,” or other nutcake outlets.  The Fox/OANN/Newsmax audience is fragmenting into teeny tiny pieces.

  92. 92.

    Ken

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: From what I’ve read, the DOJ has been careful to refer to “documents with classified markings”. All the documents still have those. So the judge (special master) can rule on things like “don’t show documents with classified markings to people lacking clearance” without concerning himself with whatever incoherent claims TFG or his lawyers are making today.

  95. 95.

    Kristine

    @lowtechcyclist:

    Tru dat, but the selling point is that these are common words. ‘Parer’ and ‘trice’ aren’t common words. ‘Fjord’ was hard, but it is a common word, so it’s fair game.

    Wordle was designed by a Welshman, so I always assumed “UK common” words when I worked the puzzle.

  96. 96.

    Sure Lurkalot

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    And absolutely obsessed with believing he’s still president.

    Well, he did tweet that if he were president, he would have been given the seat of bigliest honor at QE’s funeral. I’m not willing to grant that he believes anything.

  99. 99.

    germy shoemangler

    Many have said this, but a Fifth Estate that loses its mind over the death of another country's Queen is maybe not the best bulwark against Fascism

    — Michael Gerber (@mgerber937) September 20, 2022

  100. 100.

    James E Powell

    @CaseyL:

    The GOP’s spending so much on keeping their own base energized makes me wonder what their internal polls look like. I mean, wouldn’t they normally just take those votes for granted?

    In federal elections, they never go for the middle. It has worked for them when a D is in the White House.

  103. 103.

    germy shoemangler

    Brentwood is this pleasant part of Los Angeles where all the people who won at capitalism die their last years of old age in front of you at restaurants while their next generation throws up in sports bars on Wilshire

    — joshua turek (@JoshuaTurek) September 19, 2022

    Can any west coast jackals confirm this?

  105. 105.

    opiejeanne

    @Sure Lurkalot: His comments were an attempt to claim that Biden was dissed by the organizers. Something about the consolation to get to better know the leaders of 3rd world countries.

  106. 106.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Kristine: Yeah, and so words like ‘bloke’ and ‘briar’ are to be expected.

    But I think of ‘trice’ not so much as an Anglicism as simply archaic: I remember the expression ‘in a trice’ from books I read when I was growing up, but that was >50 years ago; this is the first time I’ve come across it in decades.

    And even in the UK, do people say ‘parer’ instead of ‘paring knife’?  (His use of the ‘er’ suffix has been, um, interesting, with words like ‘ruder’ and ‘surer’ that you almost never see in that form being solutions.)

  107. 107.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: I don’t see how the Special Master is supposed to decide on the fate of those documents without knowing what TFG is claiming about them.

    Easy: Deny trump’s vague unlawful assertions.

  108. 108.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @lowtechcyclist:

    But I think of ‘trice’ not so much as an Anglicism as simply archaic: I remember the expression ‘in a trice’ from books I read when I was growing up, but that was >50 years ago; this is the first time I’ve come across it in decades.

    “I shan’t be a trice” -Diane Chambers, some time in the late eighties, IIRC

  109. 109.

    Layer8Problem

    @Ken:

    I can see the conversation.

    “This looks smaller. Are my venues getting smaller??”

    “No sir, ‘Mr. President’, we’ve looked into it. Your popularity is actually getting higher, according to our special private internal polls. That means your stature is increasing. And since stature also means height, we determined that you’re actually growing, a towering figure in fact. So you’re still in the same big venues.”

    “I knew it all the time.”

  111. 111.

    James E Powell

    @germy shoemangler:

    The next generation of people who are living out their old age are not in sports bars, they are in their 50s and they are at country clubs.

    Brentwood has older people, but it is also filled with bright, young things with seven-figure household incomes who embody everything on the list of Stuff White People Like.

  115. 115.

    opiejeanne

    @germy shoemangler: I know that my parents could never have afforded a house there, since we’re talking about the part of Los Angeles called Brentwood.

    I think we have all had neighbors whose kids weren’t as ambitious or successful as their parents, like the doctor whose son dropped out of HS.

  117. 117.

    misterpuff

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    Tellingly, the attendance from top Republicans is opposite from the approach taken this year by top Ohio Democrats, like U.S. Rep Tim Ryan, the Democratic Senate candidate who’s largely avoided President Joe Biden throughout the year.

    What is this reporter trying to say with that “tellingly”?

      That all of the Ohio GOP are fascist friendly and Tim Ryan is afraid of a fully operational Dark Brandon and Ohioans can’t handle the truth.

  118. 118.

    Steeplejack

    @Geminid:

    [. . .] is Trump’s hard core following increasing or decreasing?

    What scares me is that, while his following does seem to be decreasing, it is increasingly concentrated in nutty and/​or cynical politicians who are positioning themselves at the levers of power to interfere with elections.

  119. 119.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    @Betty Cracker: ​  He demonstrably despised intelligence briefings. Miles Taylor (AKA “Anonymous“) says Dump would angrily refuse to read any report, so in a desperate attempt to convey critical events the CIA started presenting briefings in cartoon form (ala a series of Mike Luckovich editorial cartoons).​

  120. 120.

    dww44

    @Betty Cracker: ​
      Poll I saw this morning shows DeSantis 7 or 8 points ahead of Crist. Poll from the AJC showed the Republicans leading in almost all of the Georgia races. It seems the Republican voters in these parts are returning to their Republican roots. I do not know what it will take to get them to not vote for the authoritarian party. I honestly don’t.

  121. 121.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Dangerman:

    I hope his lawyers are getting cash up front

    What I have heard and have no source to confirm is that the single competent lawyer he just hired is being paid an absolutely staggering amount, millions, by a PAC.  Trump was always willing to spend other people’s money.

  123. 123.

    JPL

    @dww44: The Marist poll had Warnock up and that one assumed a female turnout of 49 percent, which is low.    The AJC poll heavily weighted republican turnout.

  125. 125.

    UncleEbeneezer

    @germy shoemangler: Absolutely.  Used to work for a solar company in Brentwood.  Super-rich, white, entitled.  And also played some gigs on Wilshire in that area where Westside/UCLA bros get crazy drunk and obnoxious.

  126. 126.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Asha Rangappa@AshaRangappa_
    ·
    16h
    Dearie should simply decide that he is going to accept the government’s assessment that docs that are marked classified are classified; if Trump wants to wait until he is charged to litigate declassification it’s unclear what the point is in reviewing them further now 🤷🏽‍♀️

  127. 127.

    Baud

    Red states AG’s file in the 11th Circuit in support of Trump.

    Texas, Florida, Indiana, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Louisiana, South Carolina, Utah, and West Virginia.

    Can’t pull.

  128. 128.

    Layer8Problem

    @JPL:

    “The AJC poll heavily weighted republican turnout.”

    So it’s definitely still a horse race.  Excellent!  //

  129. 129.

    the pollyanna from hell

    @opiejeanne: ​

    @opiejeanne: ​
      Yes, toys complete. I am trying right now to raise the shaft so I can turn the handles back down a bit, without success. Computer and bike mechanics in the carport to avoid tobacco smoke in the rooming-house.

  130. 130.

    UncleEbeneezer

    Since it is an OT, here is another clip of my funk/jazz quartet doing Ellington’s standard “Caravan” for your musical, grooving enjoyment.

  132. 132.

    Steeplejack

    @germy shoemangler:

    I couldn’t tell if that was snark, but nobody in the comments pointed out that the press is the fourth estate. Wikipedia informs me that the fifth estate is “a socio-cultural reference to groupings of outlier viewpoints in contemporary society, and is most associated with bloggers, journalists publishing in non-mainstream media outlets, and the social media or ‘social license.'” But is that a well-known term, even in the limited Twitterverse?

  133. 133.

    cain

    @rikyrah: The question is will the judge remove the master for asking valid questions? I imean what do you think the master is going to ask for? This is just crazy shit.

    That judge is going to keep digging deeper and deeper.

  146. 146.

    Baud

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I don’t think the rules allow for amicus briefs on motions, and I don’t recall if these AGs filed a motion to file.  Not that I expect the 11th Circuit to toss it, but it would be cool if they did.

  148. 148.

    rikyrah

    THREAD

     

    Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) tweeted at 7:30 AM on Tue, Sep 20, 2022:
    UPDATE: In a hastily scheduled press call with sympathetic media outlets yeasterday, DeSantis’ aides attacked Popular Information’s reporting.

    But their attacks — and their defense of the phony brochure they distributed to migrants — are ridiculous.

    1. The DeSantis communications strategy is always just to muddy up the issue until people move on.So I am going to take the time to explain exactly what happened and why DeSantis’ response is absolutely meritless

      Follow along if interested.

    2. Yesterday, https://t.co/Gl6evXRDcZpublished a brochure that was provided to migrants to induce them to board a flight to Massachusetts.The brochure suggested the migrants were eligible for a laundry list of benefits including “cash assistance,” and “housing”

      THIS IS A LIE

    3. In the press call, Taryn Fenske, communications director for the governor, CONFIRMED POPULAR INFORMATION’S REPORTING.This was a brochure provided to migrants to convince them to make the trip to Massachusetts.

     

    4.Fenske defended the brochure with two arguments.

    First, she said the brochure was “accurate” because it contained information that was copied and pasted from Massachusetts’ websites

    This is absurd.

     

    5.The information was taken from a Mass website, but it’s a website describing benefits for A DIFFERENT CLASS OF PEOPLE

    DeSantis and his team don’t understand the difference between refugees (who are eligible for resettlement benefits) & asylum applicants (who are not)

    6.@matt_cam, a Boston-based immigration attorney, told https://t.co/Gl6evXRDcZthat this was “legally no different than promising someone who you know to have had no military service that they will be eligible for veterans benefits”

     

    7.Fenske’s second argument was that “the brochure does not say migrants immediately have access to the benefits.” This is disinformation.

    Many of the benefits listed will NEVER be available to the migrants targeted by DeSantis.

     

    Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) tweeted at 7:46 AM on Tue, Sep 20, 2022:
    10. If the migrants are granted asylum, a process that can take several years, they could become eligible for limited financial and medical benefits. But migrants that are granted asylum could also receive those benefits in Florida or Texas.

    https://t.co/I6qMolVh4E
    (https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1572205578981720066?t=EE9DyxcuAo6q6LXIiZ18sA&s=03

  154. 154.

    lowtechcyclist

    @opiejeanne: ​
     

    I know that my parents could never have afforded a house there, since we’re talking about the part of Los Angeles called Brentwood.

    My grandparents lived in Brentwood for ~40 years. Of course, they bought their house back in ~1955 when a house there cost upper middle class money, not filthy rich money.

  155. 155.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    @Baud: ​
    Good.

    Please proceed, Governors AGs – Keep fucking that chicken churning headlines on Dump’s theft of nuclear secrets.​

  157. 157.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Steeplejack:

    Wikipedia informs me that the fifth estate is “a socio-cultural reference to groupings of outlier viewpoints in contemporary society, and is most associated with bloggers, journalists publishing in non-mainstream media outlets, and the social media or ‘social license.’” But is that a well-known term, even in the limited Twitterverse?

    The only “Fifth Estate” I’d ever heard of was a 1960s pop band of limited fame. Their biggest hit was a cover of “Ding dong, the witch is dead” from The Wizard of Oz.

  159. 159.

    WereBear

    @Steeplejack: What scares me is that, while his following does seem to be decreasing, it is increasingly concentrated in nutty and/​or cynical politicians who are positioning themselves at the levers of power to interfere with elections.

    This is “snowballing” the cult by packing it more tightly. Lukewarm people get frightened and the rest make a slush, then iceball.

    Then people get hurt.

  160. 160.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    @Baud: ​
      Per Capita Income:

    Of the 10 states (including D.C.) with the highest per capita income, 10 are blue.

    Of the 10 states with the lowest per capital income, 9 are red. The exception is New Mexico.

    (link)

  163. 163.

    Prometheus Shrugged

    @UncleEbeneezer: yeah, It was commonplace for band leaders and frontliners to get (or even take) credit for songs written by their band members or sidemen.  Billy Strayhorn gets credit for some, but not all of the songs/arrangements that he contributed to the Ellington book. And Miles Davis was infamous for getting credit for pieces that he did not write.

    This tendency is not restricted to music either.  It was (and still is) commonplace for senior scientists to get credit for the discoveries made by their graduate students and post docs.

  166. 166.

    artem1s

    @The Moar You Know: ​
     

    Not this time. I just want it to pass, very quickly, get signed and then see it get the media spotlight and have the Republicans start howling about it.

    Even if the GQP has written it to the Koch brother’s standards? How much do you trust Cheney to keep another Brooks Brothers 2000 election robbery from occurring? Me. None at all. I expect it to be full of bullshit measures to protect states rights to enact egregious voter suppression laws to keep no-existing voter fraud from happening. I don’t trust Darth Cheney’s daughter with taking over writing on such an critical piece of legislation.

  167. 167.

    Geminid

    @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: Fifty years ago the college educated voted more Republican than Democrat. This has changed over the decades since, and now the higher education demographic votes majority Democratic. That may account for the wealthier states being blue.

    This effect was seen within states in the 2018 midterms. Many of the 40 congressional districts that Democrats flipped were in more affluent suburbs with more college educated voters. This included one each in red states Kansas, South Carolina, Georgia  and Oklahoma, and two in Texas.

    When I look at how since 2000 Ohio has turned redder and Virginia bluer, I think of the way the two states’ economies have gone in opposite directions. Virginia’s has been growing and it’s proportion of college educated voters has grown with it. Ohio’s economy has been static.

  168. 168.

    Soprano2

    @OzarkHillbilly: He had a lot of time to file repeated Sunshine requests with our local school board, but took his own sweet time deciding to do something about Agape Boarding School. Strange, one is not Christian and one claims to be.

  177. 177.

    Chris T.

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Listening to TFG reminds me of a scene on the original Star Trek in which Kirk broke a robot by saying “I am lying.” (Zeno’s paradox, I think.) The robot tried to make sense of that and broke its brain.

    Actually, that was Harcourt Fenton “Harry” Mudd saying “I am lying”.

    I still like ST:TOS (well, parts of it). They had real SF writers coming up with stories: Ted Sturgeon did two, Harlan Ellison (famously) did one, Robert Bloch did one, etc.

  178. 178.

    Chris T.

    @SFAW:

    By the way, Zeno’s paradox has to do with running a race, it’s something like “But first, the runner has to get to the halfway point, but before that, he has to get to the quarter-way point” ad infinitum

    Continuing in the dead thread… that’s another standard for an old joke about mathematicians vs engineers. A boy and girl are approaching one another, cutting half the distance between them each time. The mathematician points out that they will never actually meet. The engineer agrees but says that soon, they will be close enough for all practical purposes…

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