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Mayday! Mayday! Is DeSantis’s plane stunt going down?

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I sincerely hope DeSantis’s performative cruelty toward the asylum seekers he relocated from Texas to Massachusetts costs him the governorship in November because we really need that fascist motherfucker to be a one-term governor and zero-term president. I don’t trust my fellow Floridians enough to be confident that will happen, but it’s possible. Even shitheads who don’t object to the plane stunt on humanitarian grounds might be disgusted by the lies and waste of resources.

It’s awful to listen the hideous pumpkin-head’s whiny, adenoidal voice and watch him ape Trump’s mannerisms, but endure it for 43 seconds if you can so you can hear the absurd explanation he gives for spending hundreds of thousands of Florida taxpayer dollars to bamboozle 48 vulnerable people (including children) for a Fox News bit:

Utter nonsense, and, as Josh Marshall notes at TPM, DeSantis seems pretty desperate to avoid a conversation about the “vendors” who are allegedly profiling asylum seekers in Texas and lying to get them onto the planes, probably because those vendors are shady as fuck (my guess is it’s some rabid wingnut anti-immigration group, but who knows?) and got paid untold amounts out of taxpayer funds for a program that does absolutely nothing to address the border crisis.

The truth is, he’s lighting bales of Florida taxpayer money on fire for the 2024 GOP primary campaign. Maybe DeSantis should have thought of how the stunt might play for normies before flying those folks from the jurisdiction of the county sheriff who serves San Antonio and into a stronghold of smart liberal attorneys. That’s a problem for people who live entirely in the right-wing media ecosystem. Here’s hoping it all blows up in his ugly face as coverage leaks out of the Fox News bubble.

Open thread.

PS: Y’all might have heard DeSantis chartered another plane yesterday, which filed flight plans for Delaware and then Teterboro in New Jersey. But the flight left later than originally scheduled, made a stop in Nashville and arrived in Teterboro with the crew only. Apparently there were never any immigrants on it, just the crew. Sounds like a big fat waste of money, but at least no humans were trafficked.

NBC News had the worst possible take on yesterday’s stunt-let, which is unsurprising because the article was co-reported by noxious hack Marc Caputo:

‘Punked’: DeSantis keeps White House, Delaware and media guessing on migrant flight plans

Never mind human beings used in a taxpayer-funded stunt, wasted assets and time and potentially criminal behavior. That loveable scamp DeSantis really punked the libs, woohoo! Meanwhile, I think valued commenter Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to Kalini provided the likeliest explanation on Twitter:

That sounds about right.

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  1. 1.

    Anonymous At Work

    TPM is also correct that, and worth emphasizing, HARVARD-TRAINED ATTORNEY DESANTIS, was picking his words carefully but gave away the game.  “Vendors” and “contractors” he called them, so there MUST be a paper trail for some FOIA requests to uncover.  Contracts signed to break the law are invalid as well.  All of this would have been covered in DeSanitis’s CONTRACTS 101 CLASS AT HARVARD LAW SCHOOL, which mean he’s betting on “they won’t dare charge a sitting governor” with crimes.
    cough cough TFG cough
    This story’s got legs.

  2. 2.

    JoyceH

    Some reporter needs to ask DeSantis why a state governor has intelligence operatives in another state. It’s bizarre and kinda dystopian.

  5. 5.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    a million damn dollars to fly an empty plane up to the Yankees? and again from Texas.

    Daniel Uhlfelder @DWUhlfelderLaw. 3h

    DeSantis won’t say why Florida paid his hand-picked vendor Vertol Systems Company $950,000 to charter plane from Texas to Teterboro yesterday with only crew on board.

    and finally: “onesie-twosies”?

  6. 6.

    bbleh

    Absolutely second the from D.U.K.K. because I had the same thought, especially after word got out about the Rehoboth stunt ahead of time.  Like, “hmm, wonder who else besides migrant assistance groups might be waiting to meet the plane …”

    And as to “vendors,” seems like we got one identified already, to wit, the charter company.  And I’d be willing to guess that at a minimum seizure, and possibly even forfeiture, statutes might come into play when it comes to, y’know, kidnapping and interstate human trafficking …

  7. 7.

    Ken

    It does occur, and perhaps only means I have a criminal mind, but — if you’re renting these planes anyway, and the crew’s not asking questions, why not throw a few other things in the cargo compartment? Maybe the second flight wasn’t that empty when it made the stop in Tennessee.

  8. 8.

    Wapiti

    So how much in campaign donations kickbacks has DeSantis gotten from these vendors co-conspirators? Is he converting Florida taxpayer money into money in his own pocket?

  10. 10.

    rikyrah

    Utter nonsense, and, as Josh Marshall notes at TPM, DeSantis seems pretty desperate to avoid a conversation about the “vendors” who are allegedly profiling asylum seekers in Texas and lying to get them onto the planes, probably because those vendors are shady as fuck (my guess is it’s some rabid wingnut anti-immigration group, but who knows?)

     

    They are shady as phuck, and don’t like to be asked questions. A few inquiries, and their entire web presence was taken down.

  14. 14.

    rikyrah

    Maybe DeSantis should have thought of how the stunt might play for normies before flying those folks from the jurisdiction of the county sheriff who serves San Antonio

     

    I think he did it to preempt the Feds from coming in and investigating Abbott too. No way DeSantis did this all on his own.

  15. 15.

    lee

    Probably got some decent legal advice, not of the “hurr-durr, sticking’ it to them libtards” type.

    Apparently you can’t count on your enemies to always be mouth-breathing stupid, sometimes they raise to the level of standard idiot.

  16. 16.

    HumboldtBlue

    @rikyrah:

    I think he did it to preempt the Feds from coming in and investigating Abbott too. No way DeSantis did this all on his own.

    Oh, you know Abbot was in on it, that’s why he started yelping the day after DeSantis sent the plane to MV.

    Also, the Sheriff is now getting death threats.

  17. 17.

    patrick II

    The reason DeSantis gives for gaming and illegally transporting migrants:

    Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL), when asked why the state paid to transport migrants from Texas instead of from Florida:

    “The problem is we’re not seeing mass movements of them into Florida … It’s just coming in onesie-twosies.”

    The justification DeSantis gives for the necessity of transporting migrants illegally:
    There are vast hordes of migrants coming through Texas and invading Florida.

    The reason vs justification doesn’t line up.

  18. 18.

    Barbara

    The tweet has it exactly right — Every air carrier in the U.S. is subject to federal law, especially so when they are flying interstate, and once it became public that individuals were being tricked into getting on the plane, they could be accused of being part of a conspiracy to illegally transport people across state lines.  A plane used for such purposes could very well be subject to seizure.  And these are not small planes if they can carry 25-30 passengers plus crew.  It’s going to be hard for DeSantis or anyone else to keep this up.

  19. 19.

    Baud

    It’s just coming in onesie-twosies.”

    Why would migrants coming into Florida be dressed like infants?

  20. 20.

    lowtechcyclist

    Meanwhile, I think valued commenter Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to Kalini provided the likeliest explanation on Twitter:

    Probably true, but the story the Dems should be pushing is that DeSantis changed his mind the moment it became clear that the occupants of the plane were going to be treated like human beings when they got off the plane, and he just couldn’t bear that thought.

  22. 22.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    in other news…. Marcy Kaptur’s opponent

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Campaigning for a northwestern Ohio congressional seat, Republican J.R. Majewski presents himself as an Air Force combat veteran who deployed to Afghanistan after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, once describing “tough” conditions including a lack of running water that forced him to go more than 40 days without a shower.
    Military documents obtained by The Associated Press through a public records request tell a different story.
    They indicate Majewski never deployed to Afghanistan but instead completed a six-month stint helping to load planes at an air base in Qatar, a longtime U.S. ally that is a safe distance from the fighting.

  23. 23.

    SiubhanDuinne

    What the fuck kind of grown man says things like “onesie-twosies”? He sounds like a kid in Pre-K, FFS.

  25. 25.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Barbara:

    once it became public that individuals were being tricked into getting on the plane, they could be accused of being part of a conspiracy to illegally transport people across state lines.

    And they could have claimed the first time that they had no idea about the trickery involved, but after the publicity the Martha’s Vineyard run got, that excuse wasn’t going to, um, fly a second time.

  27. 27.

    cain

    @bbleh: Did he follow the laws about making sure there was proper bids and everything? Oh wait.. no? oopsies (unless Florida doesn’t do that kind of shit, maybe already a preferred vendor)

  28. 28.

    lee

    @Barbara: The part I chuckle at is that the vendor might have seen how this was going to play out and realized that there would be exactly one flight full of immigrants. So they bid on 5 flights (or whatever the number was) betting that there would only be 1 with passengers.

  29. 29.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    also, Tom Keane Jr didn’t learn the right lessons about campaigning with two separate platforms– to wit, you gotta keep ’em separated

    The Tom Kean Jr. for Congress campaign website includes a hard-to-find, seemingly hidden-away page that outlines staunchly conservative positions on voting issues — in stark contrast to more moderate views the Congressional candidate promotes on the rest of the site. […]

    On that page, Kean Jr. says he wants to stop critical race theory in schools. He laments criminals and drugs coming across the border. And he takes a stand on abortion.

    “Tom is a fierce defender of the sanctity of life, fighting every step of the way to protect the unborn from egregious abortion laws proposed in New Jersey, and will continue to do so in Congress,” the hidden page says.

    the hidden page….

  30. 30.

    sab

    Recuperating husband has said he is about to take a shower since yesterday afternoon. I am supposed to assist. So my life has been on hold ever since. Grr.

  31. 31.

    Motivated Seller

    I sincerely hope DeSantis’s performative cruelty toward the asylum seekers he relocated from Texas to Florida costs him the governorship…

    I think you meant to say, “I sincerely hope DeSantis’s performative cruelty toward the asylum seekers he relocated from Texas to Florida Massachusetts costs him the governorship…”

  32. 32.

    cain

    @HumboldtBlue:

    Also, the Sheriff is now getting death threats.

    I guess there are exceptions to “Blue Lives Matter”, huh? Bet they all fly the blue line  American flag. Fucking terrorists.

  34. 34.

    Hoodie

    So DeSantis is saying he was worried these immigrants would make their way from Texas to Florida, presumably because of the draw of a large Venezuelan immigrant community in Florida.   Why wouldn’t they just make their way onesie-twosie down to Florida from Massachusetts?  Am I missing something?

  36. 36.

    Jeffro

    I think I mentioned this already but on the day it happened, my RWNJ dad texted me out of the blue about DeSantis’ stunt, so full of glee he couldn’t contain himself.  I ignored him (since, post-J6, I no longer have the slightest of political discussions with him or my brother)

    THAT’s the kind of cretin DeSantis appealed to with this kind of performative cruelty.  The very worst of the Fox-watching crowd.

    I’ve since seen (via social media) that my dad thinks the San Antonio sheriff is a ‘hack’, the class action lawsuit will ‘go nowhere’, and he was happy that ‘the libs’ wasted their time preparing to greet migrants in Delaware.  I’ll take “what is the opposite of critical thinking skills” for $800, Alex.

  39. 39.

    JoyceH

    @cain: anyone else suspect that some people are going to learn that threatening law enforcement is going to turn out to be less consequence-free than threatening election volunteers?

  41. 41.

    cain

    @Jeffro:

     

    I’ve since seen (via social media) that my dad thinks the San Antonio sheriff is a ‘hack’, the class action lawsuit will ‘go nowhere’, and he was happy that ‘the libs’ wasted their time preparing to greet migrants in Delaware. I’ll take “what is the opposite of critical thinking skills” for $800, Alex.

    Clearly spending tax money to own the libs is not wasteful spending at all! After all, the people who needed to be taught a lesson got it taught, and the libs were pissed! – win!

  43. 43.

    randy khan

    If you use airplanes large enough to hold 25 people, they’re going to have to file flight plans and in these days of instant access to information, it gets hard to hide what you’re doing after people know about it.  But clearly the DeSantis team is not clever enough to know that.

    (I was going to say Abbott apparently is smarter, but it may just be that he’s cheaper than DeSantis and knows that busses actually are more cost effective.)

  46. 46.

    Ruckus

    @HumboldtBlue:

    He only went 40 days without a shower? Come on man, that’s not even close to a military record. I personally know of at least 300+ men that have gone almost twice as long as that without a shower, and that’s not even close to the record. And those 300+ lived/worked in some pretty close quarters. I know, I was one of them. And I had a sense of smell then, believe me, I wish I didn’t.

  51. 51.

    cain

    @randy khan: I tried to look this up because we had this discussion yesterday and I couldn’t find any rule where you had to file a flight path if you’re going state to state. It was only for international.

  52. 52.

    JCJ

    Just drove through the lovely shithole of Mukwonago, Wisconsin.  There was a tent selling Trump flags, Gadsden flags, and other such items set up in a parking lot.  One of the flags had TRUMP in great big letters like usual, but below that it read DESANTIS in somewhat smaller letters above the usual “make America hate again” slogan.  Perhaps that is their DreamTeam.

  54. 54.

    Kent

    @germy shoemangler: Except that they aren’t sending undocumented immigrants on these planes.  So these twitter polls are completely bullshit.  None of them are undocumented.  Every single one has the correct documents to be inside the country legally.

    If they were actually sending undocumented immigrants they would all be clearly liable for multiple felony violations of immigration laws for hauling them around the country on airplanes.

  56. 56.

    The Moar You Know

    So DeSantis is saying he was worried these immigrants would make their way from Texas to Florida, presumably because of the draw of a large Venezuelan immigrant community in Florida.

    @Hoodie: He did not say that.  He said, flat-out, that Florida does not have an illegal immigration problem.

    “The problem is we’re not seeing mass movements of them into Florida … It’s just coming in onesie-twosies.”

  57. 57.

    Ken

    @Jeffro: Sounds like DeSantis has locked down the votes of… people who were going to vote for him anyway?  Well, I am not a politician and do not understand the nuances of campaigning.

  60. 60.

    Ruckus

    @HumboldtBlue:

    Yep, tin can navy.

    At the end of that 75 days the chief engineer found out, talking to the engineer on another boat, that the standard manual was pure crap and if you ran the desalinators a different way they made far more fresh water than necessary. After that we had all the fresh water necessary or could store and were pumping tons of it per day over the side.

  61. 61.

    Paul in KY

    @Jeffro: Assume you’ve told your dad what a cruel thing it is and that he’s a sad little man for supporting it. You have my condolences.

  63. 63.

    Steeplejack

    The plane contractor DeSantis paid $615K to fly migrants to Martha’s Vineyard donated exclusively to Republicans in Florida, including to the state’s appropriations chief (who funded the relocation program) & his father, a DeSantis transportation appointee.
    t.co/gP3gTlnrLS

    — Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein) September 21, 2022

  66. 66.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Anonymous At Work:

    All of this would have been covered in DeSanitis’s CONTRACTS 101 CLASS AT HARVARD LAW SCHOOL, which mean he’s betting on “they won’t dare charge a sitting governor” with crimes. 

    Haha, Illinoisan here.  And FUCK BLAGO!

  68. 68.

    Betsy

    @lee: And I’m thinking this vendor probably flew the flight (even without passengers) in order to perform its obligations under the contract so that they would be sure of getting paid for this flight.  “We showed up at the appointed time and place, we flew the flight we agreed to fly to the place we agreed to fly it to, Florida you gotta pay us whether or not you used it for your intended purposes.”

    That kinda makes me think it was desantis’ side that backed off from  putting  anyone on board.

  73. 73.

    trollhattan

    @HumboldtBlue: Nails is the correct verb. And because it’s Bourdain, telling truth about Putin while in Russia. Rather prophetic inclusion of Trump into the comment, too.

  74. 74.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @The Moar You Know:

    If it’s just “onesie-twosies”, then why did it require a plane to fly them out of Florida paid for with taxpayer money? Somebody should DeathSentence that

  75. 75.

    Edmund Dantes

    @cain: stop hacking our website!!!! /Missouri AG (I forget which red state guy went after the reporter for viewing the html)

  79. 79.

    cain

    @Edmund Dantes: That’s who I was thinking of – I was remembering some idiot GOP politician was whinging about that.

    You know there will eventually come up with some software bill criminalizing looking at web source code. :-)

  80. 80.

    moops

    I think there is some laws being broken here.   government contract laws, human trafficking, kidnapping, interfering with immigration process, mistreatment of legal asylum seekers, anything else?   I’m guessing there is some kind of conflict of interest where DeSantis and his friends take kick backs.

  85. 85.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    @Anonymous At Work: ​
      His contracts professor called him to the front of the class, in front of all the other students, and said, “Mr. DeathSantis, here’s a quarter. Call your mother and tell her there is serious doubt about you becoming a lawyer”.

  87. 87.

    Anonymous At Work

    @Shalimar: IAAL so I do know but emphasizing that Contracts is a first-year course, first term course, first-to-cause-PTSD course at any decent law school.  And re-emphasize how he’s a family-money-and-elite-education person despite efforts to appear otherwise.

  90. 90.

    Quaker in a Basement

    If DeSantis seriously wants to keep the undocumented out of Florida, he should tell the big farming operations in south central Florida to stop hiring them to work.

    He won’t, of course. Those farms rely on the labor of migrants to turn a profit.

  93. 93.

    topclimber

    @Betsy: I fear they have another budget line for a caravan heading out even now from ??? (someplace far from Florida). These are sharp trolls, after all.

  96. 96.

    divF

    @Omnes Omnibus: A friend of ours when she was in her first year of law school, once explained to us over dinner how excited she was to have used collateral estoppel – correctly! – in a paper she had written. Cool phrase, but we had no idea what she was talking about.

    So yes, law students are often weird and peculiarly nerdy.

  97. 97.

    topclimber

    @Betty Cracker: I have never had any reason to believe the YouGov was in the tank for GQP, so I hope they made an honest mistake. Let’s see if they poll again with either: 1) correct info that passengers were documented or 2) “knowing that it is a crime to transport undocumented persons over state borders, do you etc.

  98. 98.

    Baud

    Dark Brandon continues to do his thing while we’re not looking.

    September 21, 2022 | WASHINGTON, D.C. — Today, the House of Representatives passed S. 1098, the Joint Consolidation Loan Separation Act 232-193 with bipartisan support, granting student loan borrowers the chance to split their Joint Consolidation Loans (also known as Spousal Consolidation Loans) into two separate federal Direct Loans.

    Borrowers with Spousal Consolidation Loans, especially those held by Federal Family Education Loan (FFEL) Program lenders, have been ineligible for many of the historic actions the Biden Administration has taken to protect student loan borrowers. Separating these loans will finally allow these borrowers to access critical student loan relief programs.

    …

    In June 2022, the Senate passed the same bill with bipartisan support. Now that the bill has passed both chambers, it will be sent to President Biden for signing.

  101. 101.

    gvg

    @HumboldtBlue: Making death threats to a sheriff strikes me as a legally exceptionally stupid thing to do. I hope the calls are recorded and are to official numbers maybe? I mean these are really stupid entitled people.

  104. 104.

    The Moar You Know

    I fear they have another budget line for a caravan heading out even now from ???

    @topclimber: one of the few reasons I want to live forever is to eventually find out the truth about some things.

    Not that this is a mystery:  the GOP funds the caravans and pays a big fat fucking bribe to the Mexican government to allow them through the country – Mexico’s usual response to people trying to enter via their southern border is “shoot on sight”.

    I just want to see the proof.

  106. 106.

    Anonymous At Work

    @Omnes Omnibus: But your liking it isn’t a peppercorn.  If it isn’t at least a peppercorn, it isn’t consideration!

    Intense prof, learned a bunch but man, you could repeat her word-for-word and she’d tell you how changing HER inflection changed the terms of the contract.

  108. 108.

    Gravenstone

    @JCJ: Perhaps that is their DreamTeam.

    That’d be like tossing a pair of cats into a bag and shaking it. Those fuckers would be trying to kill each other constantly. Make it so!

  109. 109.

    topclimber

    @The Moar You Know: I get it why Republicans don’t give a shite about folks fleeing the narco state that is much of Central America. But to screw with Venezuelans? That’s Trump class dumb. Which I guess is what DeSantis is shooting for.

  111. 111.

    lollipopguild

    @Citizen Alan: A lot of right-wing Christians stopped being Christians along time ago but they pretend out of habit and custom. They are Christian costume players.

  112. 112.

    Anonymous At Work

    Minor tidbit: DeathSantis is playing coy and cagey with his words about his Coyotes and human trafficking ring.  TFG is set to give a primetime live interview with Hannity tonight.

    Why is this a thing?  Public statements by either at this point are usable as admissions in a trial.

  115. 115.

    Matt McIrvin

    @JCJ: Last year I saw a guy in Newburyport, MA flying a DESANTIS 2024 flag with the exact design of the Trump MAGA flag.

  116. 116.

    Alison Rose 💙🌻💛

    @Anyway: TFG but shorter is a good start, although–and I do not mean this in a complimentary way at all–he is also smarter. Of course, that’s a low bar to clear.

    But you know…Zelenskyy is also on the short side, and he’s a billion times the man putin is.

  117. 117.

    Nelle

    @The Moar You Know: Things I won’t see before I die…who was at the Cheney (Darth edition) energy meeting and what transpired there.  Why were the air controller tapes from 9/11 destroyed?  What was said in the two hour meeting of Trump and Putin?  The list grows.  Just don’t get closure on everything I want to know.

  118. 118.

    Urza

    Stupid question, why are there not indictments and prosecutions of alot more of these people lobbing death threats at public officials?  One would think getting a recording or email would be rather easy if there’s enough coming, then tracing it back and tossing a few in jail for a few years seems like an easy win.  And then they stop doing it en masse because only a few of them are actually crazy enough.

  119. 119.

    Nelle

    @cain: What was the weather like.  If the weather was poor, they would have had to fly instruments and for that, they have to file flight plans.

  121. 121.

    ...now I try to be amused

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I liked Contracts.  I also liked most of law school.  Never mind, ignore me.  I am a weirdo.

    I’ve seen a lot of anecdotes from lawyers who loved law school but hating practicing law.

  122. 122.

    SteverinoCT

    @Ruckus: I was underway on SSBN deterrent patrol during Desert Storm– missed the whole thing. We had our primary fresh-water-maker go down, and were forced to use our backup, which could only make enough to keep the reactor going. Our CO, with faith in our mechanics, decided to stick (stink) it out. We went 3 weeks on limited potable (just enough salt-tinged water for drinking and cooking) before a repair was effected. My contribution to the war.

  123. 123.

    R’Chard

    “It’s just coming in onesie-twosies.” Got it. So this doesn’t actually happen — you have to stage it.

  125. 125.

    SteverinoCT

    @Wanderer: Reading deep into the article, GWBush designated various support locations, incl. Qatar, as “combat zones” so that troops stationed there could get associated tax breaks. Fair enough. To extend that to a claim of being “in combat,” as commonly understood, is rather questionable.

  126. 126.

    cain

    @Anonymous At Work: Trump is going to go after DeSantis – and that stunt is a perfect way to fuck him up some more. Something something about how he mismanaged it and if I had done it it would have been perfect.

  127. 127.

    Eduardo

    I have seen these f***ers get away with so much that I am always skeptical this one or any specific one would do the trick.

    But the “onesies and twosies” may not sit too well with “certain communities” in South Florida — we are in a middle of a Mariel orchestrated by the Cuban and Nicaragua.  People cross the border in Texas, call their relatives, who them paid their passages to Florida and host them in their homes.  (Just hosted the daughter of a cousin.)   Almost everyone has a relative or a friend who came in this wave. So, yes, they come mostly in “onesies” or “twosies” if it is a couple.

    South Florida can deal with the wave — we have the social organization and very, very welcoming communities but of course the xenophobes won’t like it.  It is really an act of aggression on the part of the Cuban government not just to release the pressure internally but to put the American government against the wall.  They did it to Carter and Clinton before.

  128. 128.

    Eduardo

    @Hoodie: You are close.  The onesies-twosies is a totally real thing and it is mostly Cubans, then Venezuelans and yes, because there are so many of us here and those are our relatives and friends, they leave the jails to come to Florida.

    But I wouldn’t go further that this is true and he is bullshitting and just throwing something at the wall.  That and he cannot mention Cuba, Venezuela or Nicaragua because he is then fried electorally.

  129. 129.

    Bill Arnold

    @Alison Rose 💙🌻💛:

    I feel like he could’ve sent them to Mordor and the poll results would be the same.

    Betcha > 20 percent of self-identified Republicans would approve of throwing undocumented immigrants into a wood chipper, if asked.

  130. 130.

    Eduardo

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): It is thousands of onesies.  Instead of groups of dozens that crossed the border at once, once they are processed, they travel by plane or bus individually to their relatives/friends in South Florida.  So when they got here they are protected against that kind of abuse.  (Also politically, imagine if they take Venezuelans from their relatives homes in FL.) The people in San Antonio probably didn’t have anybody in South Florida

  133. 133.

    WaterGirl

    @R’Chard: Welcome!

    First comments have to be manually approved, after that they show up for everyone right away.

    EXCEPT

    WordPress doesn’t like apostrophes in nyms, so EVERY comment goes into moderation.

    BUT

    Steeplejack found a workaround with a character that looks like an apostrophe but isn’t.  I will send up the bat signal and see if he can tell you the details.

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    Steeplejack

    @R’Chard:

    Copy this and insert it as your nym: R’Chard. Once WaterGirl or someone else approves a comment with that nym you won’t have to be approved over and over.

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