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You are here: Home / Politics / Biden Administration in Action / Biden Addresses the UN General Assembly 10:45 & NY AG Major Announcement (LIVE) 11:30 am

Biden Addresses the UN General Assembly 10:45 & NY AG Major Announcement (LIVE) 11:30 am

by WaterGirl|  September 21, 202210:00 am| 103 Comments

This post is in: Biden Administration in Action, Open Threads

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Slow morning!

Letitia James (LIVE) at 10:30 11:30 with a  M A J O R   A N N O U N C E M E N T!   I wonder what that’s about. :-)

If she is announcing that it’s her birthday or that she is stepping down or that they are dropping their investigation into Donald J. Trump, I am going to regret taking the time to add all those colors above!

President Biden addresses the UN General Assembly 5 minutes later, at 10:35.

New York Attorney General Tish James to make “major announcement” tomorrow morning. pic.twitter.com/6TxUWGjF88

— JOSH RUSSELL (@jruss_jruss) September 20, 2022

 

New York Attorney General Tish James “Major Announcement”    (click to watch on the NY AG site)

⭐️

5  minutes  later …

President Biden addresses the UN General Assembly at 10:35 Eastern.

I am guessing that we will hear something from him about Ukraine?  Will he also talk about the threat to democracy here at home and the threat of autocracies all over the world? I would like to see him do that.  Anyone think he will?  What do you think he will say besides America’s back, baby!

Open thread.

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  1. 1.

    The Moar You Know

    September 21, 2022 at 10:03 am

    President Biden is, hopefully, going to address the nuclear threat Russia put on the table this morning.  And the only way to address that is to make it very clear that any such use will be responded to in kind.

    The stakes have just gotten a lot higher today.

  2. 2.

    WereBear

    September 21, 2022 at 10:05 am

    I’d settle for American’s back, baby. :)

    I admit that I’m glad they are staggering these because I am a Tish James supporter, one might say.

  3. 3.

    zhena gogolia

    September 21, 2022 at 10:06 am

    @The Moar You Know: What was that? I’m not finding it via google.

    ETA: Never mind. Sounds like stuff he’s said before.

  4. 4.

    Anonymous At Work

    September 21, 2022 at 10:11 am

    Nukes are a bluff with Russia.  It’ll be about the “partial” mobilization.  2.5 million potentials, minus the thousands fleeing Russian territory.  I imagine that Biden wishes he could ask the UN for a peace-keeping mission to secure the nuclear power plants in Ukraine and Chernobyl.  However, Putin would veto.

  5. 5.

    Ohio Mom

    September 21, 2022 at 10:15 am

    I liked the Cuban Missile Crisis better. I was too young to know it was happening, didn’t learn about it for years and years afterward.

    I’d like to use the idea that the world will soon be ending to skip picking up the house but Ohio Son’s job developer is coming at 2:00 and the public areas of the house need sweeping and neatening. Catch you later.

  6. 6.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 21, 2022 at 10:18 am

    Jonathan Lemire @JonLemire. 55m

    NEW: White House aides confirm that Biden’s upcoming UN speech is getting last-minute rewrites in the wake of Putin’s ominous overnight announcements

  7. 7.

    Ken

    September 21, 2022 at 10:20 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Hopefully not revisiting Reagan’s “The bombing will begin in five minutes” speech.

    (“Oooh, how manly and bipartisan!” — absolutely none of the hack pundits, this time around.)

  8. 8.

    joey5slice

    September 21, 2022 at 10:21 am

    The NY AG’s website seems to indicate the livestream is at 11:30 AM; presumably it was pushed back after the email in the tweeted screenshot was sent.

    I’ll be watching!

  9. 9.

    Dangerman

    September 21, 2022 at 10:21 am

    My sources are telling me it’s to announce “Baud/James ‘24”.

  10. 10.

    zhena gogolia

    September 21, 2022 at 10:22 am

    Can’t Xi get a quiet word to Putler? I can’t imagine they want this.

  11. 11.

    WaterGirl

    September 21, 2022 at 10:23 am

    @The Moar You Know:

    …address the nuclear threat Russia put on the table this morning

    I missed that.  This really is a slow news day.  //

    Do you have a link that I can check out?

  12. 12.

    WaterGirl

    September 21, 2022 at 10:25 am

    @WereBear: I don’t think the staggering was planned – I suspect Biden was given a time for his remarks and Tish James scheduled this without realizing.

    I find it hard to believe that the UN General Assembly runs perfectly on time and according to schedule, but maybe they do.

    Easy enough to watch Biden from the link after we watch Tish James.

  13. 13.

    zhena gogolia

    September 21, 2022 at 10:26 am

    @WaterGirl:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/21/russia-ukraine-war-putin-announces-partial-military-mobilization.html

  14. 14.

    WaterGirl

    September 21, 2022 at 10:27 am

    I just added the YouTube link up top.

  15. 15.

    The Moar You Know

    September 21, 2022 at 10:27 am

    Do you have a link that I can check out?

    @WaterGirl: Here’s one, plenty of others.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/21/russia-ukraine-war-putin-announces-partial-military-mobilization.htm

    ETA:  beaten to the punch!

    But in serious mode again, we gotta make it clear that his bluff is not considered as such, but a threat, and it will be responded to.

  16. 16.

    sab

    September 21, 2022 at 10:27 am

    Misread then commented then deleted.

  17. 17.

    raven

    September 21, 2022 at 10:27 am

    I just came from the dog park and heard an interesting conversation. The gentleman is a “combat wounded” Vietnam Vet from Alabama and the woman is a typical Athens leftie. They were talking about Trump (after both said they didn’t want to talk about him) and the crusty old vet said “I voted for the son-of-a-bitch the first time but never again”!

  18. 18.

    WaterGirl

    September 21, 2022 at 10:29 am

    @joey5slice: Interesting.  The YouTube site for her says 1 minute.  But I do see they have updated the LIVE site to say 11:30.

    Maybe they don’t want to stomp on Biden at the UN.

    edit:  Now the YouTube site has been updated to 11:30, as well.

  19. 19.

    zhena gogolia

    September 21, 2022 at 10:30 am

    @WaterGirl:
    https://boomboomboom.substack.com/p/putin-is-weak-dangerous-and-armed?s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

  20. 20.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    September 21, 2022 at 10:30 am

    It’s National Chai Day, National Pecan Cookie Day, and most importantly National New York Day.

    So I’m sure the announcement will have something to do with that, probably while eating a pecan cookie and sipping a chai.

    (Who decides these things anyway? Who decided pecan cookies needed a day and made Sep 21 that day?

  21. 21.

    Gin & Tonic

    September 21, 2022 at 10:31 am

    @Anonymous At Work: The nuclear power plant at Chornobyl is not at risk, and is essentially decommissioned.

  22. 22.

    WaterGirl

    September 21, 2022 at 10:32 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: I wonder if organizations get to choose who they share a day with.

    Imagine the fights between the oil and water people, or the coffee and tea people, or the strawberry vs. chocolate people…

  23. 23.

    rikyrah

    September 21, 2022 at 10:33 am

    The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) tweeted at 5:22 AM on Wed, Sep 21, 2022:
    ️ Reuters: Flights out of Russia sell out after Putin’s address.

    After Russian President Vladimir Putin’s morning address on Sept. 21, in which he ordered the immediate call-up of 300,000 reservists, one-way flights out of Russia started to sell out quickly, Reuters reports.
    (https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1572531586649960448?t=dQuhtwKp0V3lmlbk10zpWQ&s=03)

  24. 24.

    Jesse

    September 21, 2022 at 10:33 am

    @sab: so it goes

  25. 25.

    Anonymous At Work

    September 21, 2022 at 10:34 am

    @Gin & Tonic: Yup, but it faced attacks during the initial Russian invasion that threatened containment efforts.  Putting UN peacekeeping force there would prevent attacking it or using the area as a shelter (stupidly but it did happen).

  26. 26.

    MattF

    September 21, 2022 at 10:34 am

    I did note that the NYT story on Putin’s new threats quoted “Mr.” Shoigu (the Russian defense minister) on the size of the partial mobilization. I thought he was a general…?

  27. 27.

    WaterGirl

    September 21, 2022 at 10:34 am

    So I guess we are waiting for Biden first, now.

    We don’t think that  Joe Biden and Tish James are playing the silly “first” or “second” game, do we?

    *not intended as a serious question

    Folks in the youtube chat for Tish James are pointing out that even if this is a T**** announcement of charges, they will be civil, not criminal.

    Still, hopefully civil charges will have some teeth!

    Universe, a not-so-small request: please do not cause me to have to remove all those happy colors from the announcement.

  28. 28.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    September 21, 2022 at 10:38 am

    I don’t see anyone else posting the NY AG livestream URL, so here it is.

  29. 29.

    zhena gogolia

    September 21, 2022 at 10:39 am

    @MattF: the NYT calls everybody Mr. after the first mention.

  30. 30.

    Mo Salad

    September 21, 2022 at 10:40 am

    Twitter is now saying 11:30 for AG James.

    Maybe she didn’t want to Bigfoot Biden at the UN.

  31. 31.

    Mo Salad

    September 21, 2022 at 10:41 am

    @zhena gogolia: Including, famously, Meat Loaf. Mr. Loaf.

  32. 32.

    MattF

    September 21, 2022 at 10:42 am

    @zhena gogolia: Thanks, I suspected that. But it still goes into the ‘TIL’ file.

  33. 33.

    WaterGirl

    September 21, 2022 at 10:43 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: It was in the post up top (with a link, not an embed).  And there is a youtube embed up top, as well.

    edit:  I did make it in a larger font just now.  If you missed it, others might have also.

  34. 34.

    Baud

    September 21, 2022 at 10:44 am

    @Mo Salad:

    Tish James > John Cole

  35. 35.

    Ken

    September 21, 2022 at 10:45 am

    @WaterGirl: Still, hopefully civil charges will have some teeth!

    I vaguely recall people saying that James could request the “corporate death penalty” — the Trump Organization would cease to exist and its assets would be seized and used to pay fines, penalties, and the taxes that are the subject of the fraud lawsuit.

    Also, I heard that in civil trials, jurors are allowed to treat taking the Fifth as an admission of guilt; but there were arguments about that, so I’m not sure if it’s true.

  36. 36.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    September 21, 2022 at 10:45 am

    @WaterGirl: Well, I’m an idiot then. But I knew that.

  37. 37.

    WereBear

    September 21, 2022 at 10:46 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: Nay, ’tis Earth, Wind, and Fire Day!

    30th anniversary of The Eternal Dance and it will be the soundtrack of my day.

  38. 38.

    WaterGirl

    September 21, 2022 at 10:47 am

    @Ken:

    I heard that in civil trials, jurors are allowed to treat taking the Fifth as an admission of guilt

    I have never seen anyone dispute that.

  39. 39.

    Calouste

    September 21, 2022 at 10:47 am

    @rikyrah: Yeah, that mobilization might not go as well as Putin thinks. The people he’s trying to mobilize are mostly ex-military, so they have a better understanding what kind of clusterfuck they’re heading to than most. Wild ass guess, but I’d be surprised if they get even 50% of them to show up without having to hunt them down and arrest them.

  40. 40.

    WaterGirl

    September 21, 2022 at 10:48 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:  You may have missed the edit to my comment above:

     I did make it in a larger font just now.  If you missed it, others might have also.

  41. 41.

    lowtechcyclist

    September 21, 2022 at 10:48 am

    Concerning Putin’s speech this morning, I found this rather amusing.

  42. 42.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 21, 2022 at 10:51 am

    @Ken:

    I vaguely recall people saying that James could request the “corporate death penalty” — the Trump Organization would cease to exist and its assets would be seized and used to pay fines, penalties, and the taxes that are the subject of the fraud lawsuit.

    I saw Joyce Vance use that phrase last night. I think she said that was effectively what happened to the trump phony charitable foundation

  43. 43.

    Ken

    September 21, 2022 at 10:52 am

    @Mo Salad: Maybe [AG James] didn’t want to Bigfoot Biden at the UN.

    I hope she realizes this will count against her, during evaluation of her application to be a BJ front-pager.

  44. 44.

    Mallard Filmore

    September 21, 2022 at 10:55 am

    I took the links on the front page and got
    1) a speech by Ukraine President Zelenskyy (the direct YouTube link)
    2) a video about history of fishing rods (the direct YouTube link)

    Going past the front page into the thread, the links are correct.

  45. 45.

    Captain C

    September 21, 2022 at 10:55 am

    @Ken:

    Also, I heard that in civil trials, jurors are allowed to treat taking the Fifth as an admission of guilt; but there were arguments about that, so I’m not sure if it’s true.

    IANAL, but IIRC the jurors may take what is called “adverse inference” to someone taking the 5th during a civil trial so you would seem to be basically correct.

  46. 46.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 21, 2022 at 11:02 am

    @Dangerman: Many might prefer Bartles & James.

  47. 47.

    WaterGirl

    September 21, 2022 at 11:02 am

    @Mallard Filmore: Interesting.  And perplexing.

  48. 48.

    WaterGirl

    September 21, 2022 at 11:07 am

    Well, Biden is super late, so if Tish James pushed her announcement back because of Biden, we may be playing the push-back game all day.

  49. 49.

    Anonymous At Work

    September 21, 2022 at 11:09 am

    @Captain C: IAK[inda]AL and it’s “six of one, half-a-dozen of the other.”  In criminal trials, jurors are forbidden from making any inference of the use of the Fifth Amendment from witnesses and attorneys couldn’t bring it up from depositions unless they were impeaching a witness.  So, jurors would rarely hear the Fifth Amendment invoked and were given strict instructions when they did.
    In civil cases, jurors can hear the Fifth Amendment being invoked, you could bring it up from depositions, and each side can more easily call up hostile witnesses (i.e. the plaintiff can call the defendant to testify), so taking the Fifth in a deposition will be used.  Jurors can infer that a witness, especially defendants, wouldn’t be able to take the Fifth unless they had potential criminal liability above and beyond civil liability.

  50. 50.

    WaterGirl

    September 21, 2022 at 11:09 am

    We have video and background noise for the Biden remarks.  Progress!

  51. 51.

    sab

    September 21, 2022 at 11:09 am

    @WaterGirl: I blame the Secret Service ( in the tank for TFG).

  52. 52.

    WaterGirl

    September 21, 2022 at 11:10 am

    Coming out strong!

  53. 53.

    Baud

    September 21, 2022 at 11:14 am

    @WaterGirl:

    Was there a fog machine?  I hope so.

  54. 54.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 21, 2022 at 11:16 am

    @Baud: and lots of red flood lights

  55. 55.

    Gin & Tonic

    September 21, 2022 at 11:17 am

    Why is John Kerry there?

  56. 56.

    WaterGirl

    September 21, 2022 at 11:20 am

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Special Presidential Envoy?

  57. 57.

    hedgehog the occasional commenter

    September 21, 2022 at 11:20 am

    Open thread?

    So, Yours Truly has signed up to be a floor ballot judge for the election.  Four shifts, including 7 am to 7 pm on Election Day.  I have a classroom training session and four online training sessions (orientation, floor ballot training, etc.)  I am excited and a little nervous at the same time.  Figured I needed to do my part to help quash the “stolen election” bullshit that we all know is being ginned up.

  58. 58.

    Cameron

    September 21, 2022 at 11:24 am

    @MattF: I don’t think Shoigu actually has any military service under his belt, hence no rank assigned.

  59. 59.

    Scout211

    September 21, 2022 at 11:24 am

    @hedgehog the occasional commenter:

    👍

  60. 60.

    rikyrah

    September 21, 2022 at 11:24 am

    @hedgehog the occasional commenter:

     

    thank you. we need good people working elections on the ground.

  61. 61.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    September 21, 2022 at 11:25 am

    @hedgehog the occasional commenter: I look forward to hearing your reports

  62. 62.

    Another Scott

    September 21, 2022 at 11:27 am

    @zhena gogolia: Yup.

    Even Henry “you better call me ‘Doctor'” Kissinger.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  63. 63.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    September 21, 2022 at 11:30 am

    @Anonymous At Work: hostile witnesses

    Totally irrelevant and irreverent, but to me this phrase will always call to mind Joe Pesci calling Marisa Tomei to the stand in “My Cousin Vinnie”.

  64. 64.

    FelonyGovt

    September 21, 2022 at 11:32 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: “Your Honor. Everything he said is bullshit. Thank you. “

  65. 65.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    September 21, 2022 at 11:40 am

    Letitia James is on camera!

    Lawsuit against Trump over the fraudulent financial stuff.

    Asking that he and his family be permanently banned from serving on a corporation in NYS.

  66. 66.

    Formerly disgruntled in Oregon

    September 21, 2022 at 11:41 am

    Refreshing remarks and an essential vision of a humane future offered by President Biden at the UN just now. I want to believe.

  67. 67.

    Anonymous At Work

    September 21, 2022 at 11:44 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: Law schools use that movie as a teaching aid.  Best movie about lawyering yet made.

    And Fred Gwynn was robbed for his role as the Judge.  “She’s your fiancée? Well, that certainly explains the hostility.”

  68. 68.

    glc

    September 21, 2022 at 11:44 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: Up on the Guardian while she’s still talking.

  69. 69.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    September 21, 2022 at 11:44 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:  ah yes, a classic example of a real expert witness.

  70. 70.

    Scout211

    September 21, 2022 at 11:44 am

    Oooh. Criminal referrals.

  71. 71.

    MomSense

    September 21, 2022 at 11:46 am

    Holy fucking shit Batman.

  72. 72.

    MomSense

    September 21, 2022 at 11:50 am

    @hedgehog the occasional commenter:

    Yay!  I’m doing voter protection here in Maine.  I haven’t been assigned my polling location yet but I should find out during the training.

  73. 73.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    September 21, 2022 at 11:50 am

    Sounds like the stuff she got from flipping Weisselberg was pretty key in being able to take this step.

  74. 74.

    H.E.Wolf

    September 21, 2022 at 11:53 am

    @hedgehog the occasional commenter: So, Yours Truly has signed up to be a floor ballot judge for the election.

    @MomSense: Yay! I’m doing voter protection here in Maine.

     Three cheers! I salute you both!

  75. 75.

    Leto

    September 21, 2022 at 11:54 am

    (WaPo) Donald Trump, 3 of his children sued for business fraud by New York AG Lawsuit alleges $250 million fraud, seeks to bar the Trumps from serving as executives of any company operating in New York

  76. 76.

    James E Powell

    September 21, 2022 at 11:56 am

    Every day I get three emails from Charlie Crist, one from Tim Ryan, one from Mark Kelly, all asking for money. Sorry, I’m tapped out till the end of October.

    Charlie Crist’s alternate between “We’re close/ahead! Help!” & “We’re losing! Help!”

  77. 77.

    Old School

    September 21, 2022 at 11:57 am

    Letitia James says report contains over 200 examples of inflated asset values.

  78. 78.

    Miss Bianca

    September 21, 2022 at 11:58 am

    @hedgehog the occasional commenter: Yay, you!

    (We need to find another mid-Colorado place to meet up again sometime, btw. Maybe next year?) :

    @MomSense: Yay, you, too!

  79. 79.

    MisterForkbeard

    September 21, 2022 at 11:58 am

    @James E Powell: I get those from Val Demings all the time and it’s awful. “DISASTER: we missed our funding target and Republicans are winning!” and then 10 minutes later “BOOM: Polling is fantastic, please donate to keep this rolling!”

  80. 80.

    Anonymous At Work

    September 21, 2022 at 12:01 pm

    @Leto: Hopefully, the request will also include a “Civil Death Penalty” to dissolve the Trump Organization as a NY corporation.  Make Trump own NY property as an individual without a liability shield.  Small but important step for a person who owns and will defend multiple properties within New York state.

  81. 81.

    Ken

    September 21, 2022 at 12:02 pm

    @Old School: “You’ve fallen for one of the two classic blunders! The first being never get involved in a land war in Asia, but only slightly less well known: Never lie to the IRS!”

  82. 82.

    different-church-lady

    September 21, 2022 at 12:07 pm

    @Old School: ​
      Trump never does anything half way, does he?

  83. 83.

    UncleEbeneezer

    September 21, 2022 at 12:16 pm

    Today, I filed a lawsuit against Donald Trump for engaging in years of financial fraud to enrich himself, his family, and the Trump Organization.  There aren’t two sets of laws for people in this nation: former presidents must be held to the same standards as everyday Americans.

    Actions have consequences. We’re seeking to:

    • Make Trump pay $250 million.
    • Ban the Trumps from running NY businesses for good.
    • Ban Trump and Trump Org from buying commercial real estate in NY for 5 yrs.
    • We’re making a criminal referral to the U.S. Dept of Justice.

    With the help of Donald Jr., Eric, Ivanka, and other defendants, Trump variously unlawfully inflated and deflated his net worth by billions to obtain and satisfy loans, get insurance benefits, and pay lower taxes. In short, he lied to gain massive financial benefits for himself.

    …

  84. 84.

    bbleh

    September 21, 2022 at 12:26 pm

    This really goes after TFG where it hurts: his pocketbook and his New York cred.

    It will put pressure on Bragg.  Wonder how he’ll respond.

    And in any case, I can’t imagine they would have done this without a very solid case.  Certainly the prosecutors from Manhattan thought so who resigned after Bragg put his investigation on ice.

  85. 85.

    Soprano2

    September 21, 2022 at 12:30 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: Got this from Google:

    It is not run by a federal agency — just an entrepreneur with an idea. Marlo Anderson co-founded the website in 2013 with National Popcorn Day. He has built it up to include nearly 1,500 national days, weeks and months. Oct 8, 2018

  86. 86.

    Princess

    September 21, 2022 at 12:32 pm

    You know, I’m not a fan of conspiracy theories — like, I hate them — but I do keep wondering if Ivana threatened to reveal the truth about his worth and things he did in the past, and if she was killed to shut her up. I can see her being stupid enough to try and him being rotten enough to order a hit. Her cause of death was listed as  fall but there were no witnesses. Not that uncommon, but still.

  87. 87.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    September 21, 2022 at 12:47 pm

    I have an important question (well, it’s important to me, anyway). Does he have to be physically in court for this lawsuit? Or is just going to be his lawyers blustering and getting yelled at by judges for stupidity, the way we see in all of his many other court cases?

  88. 88.

    Brachiator

    September 21, 2022 at 12:52 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    Trump never does anything half way, does he?

    No, but it is often half ass.

    A late morning here in Southern California. So much news! It seems like only yesterday when some were complaining that the only news was about the Royal funeral.

  89. 89.

    steppy

    September 21, 2022 at 12:52 pm

    After all the dilatory tactics that T**** always uses fail, I assume they would try to settle without admitting guilt. Any idea what that might look like?

    I imagine that the penalty amount would be negotiable. Would AG James insist on the permanent ban on being corporate officers? I hope so. The 5 year ban on commercial real estate activities? I hope so, but that one could be a little squishy. Requirements for independent audit and GAAP accounting? That doesn’t sound very negotiable.

    What do you think?

  90. 90.

    zhena gogolia

    September 21, 2022 at 12:54 pm

    @Princess: Why would she do that all of a sudden?

  91. 91.

    StringOnAStick

    September 21, 2022 at 12:58 pm

    Glad to see the fraud charges and corporate death penalty in the mix.

    Question: has it crossed many minds that the reason tRump is trying to get the classified documents back, and at this point demanding a list of the classified document titles is because Mango Moron can’t remember which ones he stashed where?  And that this means there are more stashed at other locations, and they have various levels of explosiveness but not knowing which ones the DOJ has is causing increasing agita?  They certainly can’t go dig up (perhaps literally) what they still have because they are being closely watched, though it sounds like he’s such a chaotic “businessman” that there never was an actual account of what they* took.

     

    *I use “they” because tRump had help every step of the way; DOJ will squeeze some of The Help and are no doubt doing so.

  92. 92.

    WaterGirl

    September 21, 2022 at 1:04 pm

    @StringOnAStick: I don’t think that is outside the realm of possibility.  At all.

  93. 93.

    Brachiator

    September 21, 2022 at 1:10 pm

    @Princess:

    Her cause of death was listed as  fall but there were no witnesses. Not that uncommon, but still.

    Ivana’s death is likely accidental. She didn’t fall out of a window Russian style.

    A personal aide and a cleaning lady had come to the 73-year-old Trump’s Upper East Side home Thursday and rang the bell and called her phone to get in, but no one answered, sources said.

    The pair called the building’s super, but he couldn’t open the door because it was double-locked from the inside, sources said.

    Finally, a maintenance worker was called to the scene, got the door open — and found Trump at the floor of the stairs with the cup of java spilled next to her, sources said….

    The socialite businesswoman had been suffering hip pain and had such trouble walking that she couldn’t even leave her house for a quick jaunt to the Hamptons, a close friend told The Post on Friday.

    She also was so unsteady on her feet at times that she needed a personal health aide to help walk around her neighborhood, other friends said.

    Probably no conspiracy. Unless Melania suddenly goes into hiding.

  94. 94.

    Ken

    September 21, 2022 at 1:18 pm

    @Brachiator: Door double-locked from the inside, spilled cup of coffee next to the body, cancelled vacation trip… This would definitely have Columbo saying “Just one more thing, sir…”

  95. 95.

    J R in WV

    September 21, 2022 at 1:51 pm

    @Cameron:

    I don’t think Shoigu actually has any military service under his belt, hence no rank assigned.

    Actually, Shoigu has no real service in the military, but rose through the political ranks, and became the head of (militarized) Emergency Services for USSR and then Russia, then was appointed Governor of the Moscow Oblast and then Minister of Defense where he made himself a General of one flavor or another. A long and complicated career indeed, documented pretty well on Wikipedia at the link.

    He looks pretty prone to falling, and should avoid staircases and windows…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Shoigu#/media/File:Official_portrait_of_Sergey_Shoigu.jpg

  96. 96.

    El Muneco

    September 21, 2022 at 2:15 pm

    @Brachiator: “got the door open — and found Trump at the floor of the stairs with the cup of java spilled next to her,”

    Did anyone else just picture the Political Officer’s death in _Hunt For Red October_”?

  97. 97.

    Mai Naem mobile

    September 21, 2022 at 2:34 pm

    @Brachiator: if she needed a personal aide to help walking around the neighborhood why would she be living upstairs or be able to handle a set of stairs?  I seriously doubt the home didn’t have a downstairs bedroom/elevator/lift. I thought Ivanka was rich in her own right after doing the QVC thing so money shouldn’t have been a problem getting the place fixed up for a disabled person.  BTW this makes me think really poorly of the Trumpov kids who couldn’t even check on their frail elderly mother(supposedly Ivanka was supposed to be close to her mother.) Garbage people performing garbage actions.

  98. 98.

    Brachiator

    September 21, 2022 at 2:54 pm

    @Mai Naem mobile:

    if she needed a personal aide to help walking around the neighborhood why would she be living upstairs or be able to handle a set of stairs?  I seriously doubt the home didn’t have a downstairs bedroom/elevator/lift. I thought Ivanka was rich in her own right after doing the QVC thing so money shouldn’t have been a problem getting the place fixed up for a disabled person.

    I just did a quick check and posted details from a fairly well written piece about Trump’s wife. I don’t know anything about why she chose to live her life as she did, or the details of her apartment interior.

    BTW this makes me think really poorly of the Trumpov kids who couldn’t even check on their frail elderly mother(supposedly Ivanka was supposed to be close to her mother.) Garbage people performing garbage actions.

    They did check on her and she had a health aide. I pretty much despise the Trump kids, but they didn’t just abandon their mother.

  99. 99.

    JML

    September 21, 2022 at 2:55 pm

    @Mai Naem mobile: having just gone through this with my mom (who broke her hip), getting people to leave/adjust their accommodations for illness or injury is…difficult. As much as I loathe the Big Orange Idiot, let’s leave the conspiracy theory alone.

  100. 100.

    NorthLeft

    September 21, 2022 at 3:19 pm

    @hedgehog the occasional commenter: Kudos to you. To protect democracy, good people need to step up and work these elections.

    I’m a Canadian, but I’ll thank you anyway. You Americans don’t realize how much your northern neighbours appreciate having a sane President who actually cares and does something about our common issues.

  101. 101.

    NorthLeft

    September 21, 2022 at 3:23 pm

    BTW, the fact that Deadbeat Donald and his odious spawn are not being charged with fraud kind of shows that he is above the law. Doubt that any normal person would get off with just a civil lawsuit.

  102. 102.

    rikyrah

    September 21, 2022 at 3:29 pm

    Veronica McDonald (@Purify_toast17) tweeted at 11:40 AM on Wed, Sep 21, 2022:
    DeutscheBank is probably cooperating because Trump can’t just put down his property is worth $700 million dollars, he needs receipts.  If DeutscheBank provided Trump fake receipts via fake appraisals, they’re in big time trouble too.
    (https://twitter.com/Purify_toast17/status/1572626759538933760?t=rsBw-rpHp7k1drhPKzCeog&s=03)

  103. 103.

    MisterDancer

    September 21, 2022 at 4:56 pm

    @NorthLeft: This is not 100% correct. Per Tish James’ Twitter Account: https://twitter.com/NewYorkStateAG/status/1572611511750639618

    We’re making a criminal referral to the U.S. Dept of Justice.

    And i just wrote a whole-assed post about my opinions on those DoJ worthies.

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