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You are here: Home / Nature & Respite / Something Good Open Thread / Tuesday Evening Open Thread: Gaming the Systems

Tuesday Evening Open Thread: Gaming the Systems

by Anne Laurie|  September 27, 20225:28 pm| 53 Comments

This post is in: Something Good Open Thread, Something To Think About

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Here is a lab lab!

Our lab here needs to wear PPE just like the people doing the science.

He is the service dog of a student in a chemistry professor's lab.

(Shared with permission.) pic.twitter.com/6YefNNiIwc

— Jennifer Polk, PhD (she, her) (@FromPhDtoLife) September 22, 2022

I had the remnants of a formerly capped tooth extracted yesterday (per the oral surgeon, my teeth are fragile but my jawbone is ‘surprisingly dense’), so today I’m taking it easy…

Here you can see a capuchin monkey instructing a female human on how to properly use stone tools. With monkeys learning to use tools and passing this skill down for generations, what do you think future monkeys be like?

[source and more: https://t.co/C5SS7iDXaT] pic.twitter.com/iyh5BOirIY

— Massimo (@Rainmaker1973) September 18, 2022


Criticism from an expert:

It's a very fast way to teach complex motor skills, although probably most appropriate and scalable with some sort of pantograph or exoskeleton.

— Naomi Wu ???? (@RealSexyCyborg) September 18, 2022

here is a one page rpg about being a left wing office cat where you must avoid garbage cans and being buttered by colleagues pic.twitter.com/P3bxtZOMGh

— Oliver Darkshire ?? (@deathbybadger) September 21, 2022

I do not charge for my games, but you can find the full archive and/or buy a man a sandwich here: https://t.co/E59URnUlQT

— Oliver Darkshire 🌈 (@deathbybadger) September 21, 2022

Too good to be true?

feels right that if a shark could communicate with us the main thought it would have to communicate is "i am a shark" https://t.co/HLFcB0LI5A

— flglmn (@flglmn) September 18, 2022

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    September 27, 2022 at 5:33 pm

    Call me when capuchin monkeys can crash a probe into an asteroid.

  2. 2.

    Capri

    September 27, 2022 at 5:34 pm

    Using people PPE on a dog is cute but doesn’t make much sense. They don’t touch noxious things with their paws, they put them in their mouths. Still, it’s nice to see that the dog was allowed in.

  3. 3.

    Yutsano

    September 27, 2022 at 5:40 pm

    Don’t mind me. I’m just getting trained on things I will never do because most of the people in the virtual class I am in will be. No big.

  4. 4.

    Geminid

    September 27, 2022 at 5:43 pm

    My Atlanta friend predicts that dolphins will take over the world some day. The process will start when chess players teach dolphins how to play and furnish them submersible, dolphin friendly computer terminals. The first sign of the takeover will be ransomware attacks where companies will be required to drop off trawler loads of fish to get their systems unlocked.

    My Atlanta friend plays chess, and he sometimes smokes a lot of weed.

  5. 5.

    Ken

    September 27, 2022 at 5:50 pm

    @Geminid: I thought we agreed a few months ago it would be goldfish, not dolphins. This was based on a report that scientists had trained goldfish to direct a robotic crawler — or maybe they had trained the robotic AI to respond to the goldfish, I don’t recall.

  6. 6.

    Major Major Major Major

    September 27, 2022 at 5:54 pm

    @Ken: remember when somebody gave a snake a mech suit? https://www.avclub.com/snakes-legs-robot-allen-pan-exoskeleton-1849413186/amp

  7. 7.

    Gin & Tonic

    September 27, 2022 at 5:58 pm

    Here’s a reason why some people say that professional bicycle racing is among the world’s most demanding sports:

    🇭🇷 #CRORace: What a deluge that is falling on the leaders group! ⛈️ pic.twitter.com/joMpZb0DWD
    — EOLO-KOMETA Cycling Team (@EoloKometaTeam) September 27, 2022

  8. 8.

    H.E.Wolf

    September 27, 2022 at 6:00 pm

    @Capri: ​”Using people PPE on a dog is cute but doesn’t make much sense. They don’t touch noxious things with their paws”
     I wondered about that, too. The full article had details on that very point. The dog’s paws are protected by booties from potential hazardous-chemical spills on the floor. Similar for the rest of the PPE: to protect skin, hair, and eyes from possible toxic chemicals.

    Having once burnt a hole in my favorite shirt with 1 drop of an acidic chemical during high-school chemistry class, I’m on Team PPE here. :)

  9. 9.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    September 27, 2022 at 6:10 pm

    @Ken: @Geminid: You are both wrong. Ants will take over. They have already invented their own version of architecture, warfare, and farming/cattle raising. Its only a matter of time. We are dooomed!

  10. 10.

    LeftCoastYankee

    September 27, 2022 at 6:12 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    What’s the proper slipstream position when the wind direction is “all of them Katie” (including “up”)?

  11. 11.

    dm

    September 27, 2022 at 6:12 pm

    @H.E.Wolf: A girlfriend had holes burned in her jeans in college from leaning against the lab-bench where acid had been spilled and then dried.  The holes would appear when the dried acid flakes got wet in the laundry.

  12. 12.

    EmbraceYourInnerCrone

    September 27, 2022 at 6:12 pm

    @H.E.Wolf: people in labs drop stuff and sometimes it’s glass   That breaks And spills or splashes dangerous chemicals or bodily fluids. Team PPE all the way…

  13. 13.

    EmbraceYourInnerCrone

    September 27, 2022 at 6:13 pm

    @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: I saw that movie!

  14. 14.

    RaflW

    September 27, 2022 at 6:13 pm

    I remember my HS freshman science teacher telling us not to wear polyester shirts to lab class on certain days (they were popular then, with wide disco collars and funky late-70s patterns). Whatever chemicals we were handling weren’t that dangerous, but he claimed that polyester might fuse to our skin — or maybe it was the bunsen burner?.

    Or, perhaps, he just hated trendy but synthetic clothes.

  15. 15.

    Yutsano

    September 27, 2022 at 6:16 pm

    @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: Also incorrect. It will be corvds.

  16. 16.

    Steeplejack

    September 27, 2022 at 6:18 pm

    Enhanced imagery from the DART Mission impact.

  17. 17.

    trollhattan

    September 27, 2022 at 6:21 pm

    Shark draws better than I ever did using an Etch-a-sketch, I’ll tell you what.

  18. 18.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    September 27, 2022 at 6:24 pm

    @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: I read kind of a depressing novel, by Greg Bear I think, that started with a scientist deciding to boost the intelligence of bacteria.

    Just a little. Gave them memory capacity and not much else. But they almost immediately developed a group mind and it went downhill from there.

  19. 19.

    Baud

    September 27, 2022 at 6:26 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    They evolved into people?

  20. 20.

    Tony Jay

    September 27, 2022 at 6:26 pm

    Sorry, I just scrolled down that capuchin monkey thread and hit a Dua Lipa gif so hard I lost twenty minutes and use of my legs.

    The NASA/Smith v asteroid/Rock image is very funny too.

  21. 21.

    JPL

    September 27, 2022 at 6:28 pm

    This could be my next senator.

    Herschel Walker defined “woman” today at a rally in Georgia. “I know what a woman is. It’s written in the Bible. She’s from the rib of a man”

    as Joe likes to say not a joke.

  22. 22.

    Obvious Russian Troll

    September 27, 2022 at 6:28 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    Blood Music. I don’t remember a lot about it except that it didn’t end well for anybody but the bacteria.

  23. 23.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    September 27, 2022 at 6:31 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: Hmmm. If an ant’s nest developed a group mind, then.. DOOOOOOMMED!!!!!!

    @Yutsano: Corvids are very smart. However, ants are organized, super strong, and very hardworking.

  24. 24.

    Ken

    September 27, 2022 at 6:33 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: @Obvious Russian Troll:  The short story ended somewhat ambiguously. The novel ended well for almost everyone, for certain senses of “well”.

  25. 25.

    Fair Economist

    September 27, 2022 at 6:34 pm

    @Steeplejack: Don’t mess with Earth.

  26. 26.

    Frankensteinbeck

    September 27, 2022 at 6:36 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Look, whatever takes over, the point is that the cockroaches will be gone because they have evolved specifically to live alongside humans.

  27. 27.

    eclare

    September 27, 2022 at 6:36 pm

    @JPL:   Gawd, it’s just stunning.  And depressing.  How is Warnock not crushing him?

    I lived in ATL from 1991-2004, so I get that ATL is surrounded by GA, but still.

  28. 28.

    JPL

    September 27, 2022 at 6:43 pm

    @eclare:   Today I had on the radio and the ads are devastating.  Lower income taxes are being raised because he voted for money to be spent out of state.   Including money for the Boston Marathon bomber.  I still thing Warnock wins but probably with a runoff.

     

    I still think Warnock wins though, but probably with a runoff

    I’ve avoided saying this, but Stacey needs to up her game.   She started with Medicaid expansion and needs to continue to nail him.   She is dragging Warnock down.

  29. 29.

    eclare

    September 27, 2022 at 6:46 pm

    @JPL:   Fingers and paws crossed.

  30. 30.

    Sister Golden Bear

    September 27, 2022 at 6:48 pm

    @Capri: The explanation given was it was to protect the doggo from accidental splashes.

  31. 31.

    JPL

    September 27, 2022 at 6:48 pm

    @eclare: I would rather have a robot.

  32. 32.

    eclare

    September 27, 2022 at 6:52 pm

    @JPL:   I trust your thoughts, you are on the ground.

  33. 33.

    lollipopguild

    September 27, 2022 at 6:53 pm

    @eclare: Plenty of people who will vote for a rock if they can pawn “the libs”.

  34. 34.

    JoyceH

    September 27, 2022 at 6:54 pm

    New subject, but just saw on Twitter that Ukrainian soldiers are already capturing Russians from the new mobilization. From conscript to POW, one week.

  35. 35.

    Baud

    September 27, 2022 at 6:55 pm

    @JPL:

    Women need to show up at his rallies with apples for him to eat.

  36. 36.

    eclare

    September 27, 2022 at 6:56 pm

    @Baud:   Brilliant!

  37. 37.

    JPL

    September 27, 2022 at 6:57 pm

    @Baud: I love that

  38. 38.

    Jay

    September 27, 2022 at 7:04 pm

    @JoyceH:

    the current record is held by the 92nd, they bagged one who had all of 3 days from Mobilization to capture.

  39. 39.

    Will

    September 27, 2022 at 7:12 pm

    @JPL: I have family near the Tennessee/Georgia border so they get some ads targeted at Georgians. My wife and I were visiting over Labor Day and I just couldn’t shake the feeling Stacey is in a funk and dragging Warnock down. One theory a family friend down there stated was they can’t really touch Jan 6 in ads because Kemp didn’t bow to Trump and it also places Stacey in the uncomfortable spot of her election questioning in 2018. Do you get any sense of this? I didn’t see any ads referencing Jan 6 when visiting down there but I have seen them here in PA.

  40. 40.

    WaterGirl

    September 27, 2022 at 7:15 pm

    @JPL:  Just awful.

    There is something terribly wrong with the people who will vote for Herschel Walker.

  41. 41.

    raven

    September 27, 2022 at 7:16 pm

    @Will: I get the sense of that for sure.

  42. 42.

    raven

    September 27, 2022 at 7:17 pm

    @WaterGirl: I know it’s hard but these people fucking hate us.

  43. 43.

    Ruckus

    September 27, 2022 at 7:19 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    When I had my bicycle shop I built bikes and other stuff in the shop in the back. One of the things I built were fitting bikes. This is a bike that fully adjusts for people from about 4’10” to about 6’10”, and has a load generator so that it’s like riding a bike you can’t steer. The load generator is variable on a scale of 50 to 1500 watts. I could ride at 500w, a cat 2 racer I fit could ride at 1200w and talk in a normal voice. Those guys in that video, those are cat 1 racers. They could like ride at well over 1200, likely over 1500watts. I wasn’t a slouch back then but almost 2 1/2 times the load is a lot. I had a huge amount of respect for cat 1 racers, as I worked the international races held in Northern CA and saw them up close. They are athletes on about 20 levels higher.

  44. 44.

    Gin & Tonic

    September 27, 2022 at 7:27 pm

    Huh. This is not what I’d expected:

    Dear @ZelenskyyUa, you know that you can count on our loyal support for the cause of freedom of Ukrainian people. Stay strong and keep your faith steadfast! 🇮🇹🇺🇦
    — Giorgia Meloni 🇮🇹 ن (@GiorgiaMeloni) September 27, 2022

  45. 45.

    Gin & Tonic

    September 27, 2022 at 7:29 pm

    @Ruckus: European pros are as far above a US Cat 1 racer as that Cat 1 racer is above you.

  46. 46.

    eclare

    September 27, 2022 at 7:30 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:   Me neither, but good to see!

  47. 47.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    September 27, 2022 at 7:43 pm

    @eclare:

    I was under the impression that he was?

    @Will:

    @JPL:

    @raven:

    Is it just me or is this the 2021 Virginia elections all over again? I distinctly remember commenters from Virginia being confident about McAuliffe’s chances and then getting jitters about a month from Election Day

  48. 48.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    September 27, 2022 at 7:45 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    @eclare:

    I’m a little skeptical. She’s been spotted palling around with the likes of Steve Bannon. We’ll see where she stands in the winter

  49. 49.

    zhena gogolia

    September 27, 2022 at 8:01 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I saw an interview with the Finnish President and he seemed confident Italy would fall into line because their economy needs eu help

  50. 50.

    Chip Daniels

    September 27, 2022 at 8:49 pm

    I have a friend who earnestly argues that one day monkeys will learn how to shoot guns.

    I used to laugh it off as a joke but…

  51. 51.

    HinTN

    September 27, 2022 at 8:49 pm

    @Geminid: Your Atlanta friend reads David Brin, too, I suspect.

  52. 52.

    BruceFromOhio

    September 27, 2022 at 9:51 pm

    This post is why I visit Balloon Juice every. Single. Fucking. Day.

  53. 53.

    misterpuff

    September 28, 2022 at 12:41 pm

    @HinTN: @Geminid: Your Atlanta friend reads David Brin, too, I suspect.

     

    Uplift Uni FTW!

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