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You are here: Home / Foreign Affairs / War for Ukraine Day 219: The Annexation Is Off To a Rousing Start… Lyman Has Been Liberated!

War for Ukraine Day 219: The Annexation Is Off To a Rousing Start… Lyman Has Been Liberated!

by Adam L Silverman|  October 1, 202210:18 pm| 98 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

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The annexation is off to such a rousing start that less than twenty-four hours after it was announced, Lyman has been liberated by the Ukrainian army.

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We’ll get into more of the news from Lyman after the jump.

Here’s President Zelenskyy’s address from earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump:

Dear Ukrainians!

Dear all our defenders!

Another week of our war for our independence comes to an end.

The week that the enemy really wanted to make especially hard for us, but he made it really hard, but for himself. For Russia itself.

Today, even more voices in the world have joined in condemning the pseudo-referendums and Russia’s attempt to annex our territory – the territory of Ukraine.

I am grateful for every such voice.

As a result, we already have dozens of statements that clearly support Ukraine and international law and condemn Russia for this new aggressive step.

I would like to especially note the statement of UN Secretary General António Guterres.

He bluntly said that Russia violates the goals and principles of the UN, the UN Charter and that the pseudo-referendums and attempted annexation will have no legal force.

When such words are heard at the highest level in the UN, everyone in the world understands everything.

And Russia has no such veto right that can stop or cancel this understanding of the world.

Russia is losing the fight for the international community. The world will not allow a return to the times of colonial conquests, criminal annexations and total arbitrariness instead of international law.

And the main thing… The main thing is our resistance with you, our protection with you, our movement with you towards the liberation of the entire Ukrainian territory.

It is our movement that puts everything in its place.

Russia has staged a farce in Donbas. An absolute farce, which it wanted to present as an alleged referendum.

They depicted something there, drove machine gunners around the houses, carried pieces of paper, the propagandists filmed all this in the part of Donbas they controlled.

And now a Ukrainian flag is there.

During this week, there were more Ukrainian flags in Donbas. It will be even more in a week.

What then is a pseudo-referendum? Are there two Donetsk regions? Two villages of Yampil, Donetsk region? Are there two villages of Torske?

The Ukrainian movement will continue.

The Ukrainian flag is already in Lyman, Donetsk region. Fighting is still going on there. But there is no trace of any pseudo-referendum there.

It is logical for Ukraine. And for the enemy, there will be more and more such “mismatches.”

By the way, they have already started biting each other there: they are looking for the culprits, accusing some generals of failures…

This is the first bell that should be heard at all levels of the Russian government.

Until you all solve the problem with the one who started it all, who started this senseless for Russia war against Ukraine, you will be killed one by one, making scapegoats, so as not to admit that this war is a historical mistake for Russia.

Ukraine will return its own. Both in the east and in the south. And what they tried to annex now, and Crimea, which has been called annexed since 2014.

Our flag will be everywhere.

There will be punishment for those who committed this crime of aggression against our independent state.

On October 1, 76 years ago, the Nuremberg Tribunal ended its work.

In many ways, it was this process that laid the foundations of the modern world – the legal foundations of justice. Everything that ruscism is trying to destroy.

Therefore, another tribunal will inevitably take place, which will put an end to the careers of all those responsible for this Russian “special operation” against the international system, which began in 2014 and became full-scale on February 24, and will end thanks to the heroism of our people.

Today, we still do not know on which day it will happen. But we know that the day of our victory will come. It will definitely be. And after it the day of judgment for the ruscists will be. It will definitely be.

I thank everyone who brings this time closer. Who is approaching it daily.

Thanks to everyone who fights and works for our victory! Thanks to everyone who helps!

Thank you to President Biden and the US Congress for providing more than $12 billion in supplemental support. It will definitely strengthen our common freedom.

Glory to the invincible people of Ukraine!

Glory to our soldiers!

Glory to Ukraine!

Here’s the British MOD’s assessment for today. They appear to have given the mappers the weekend off.

Here is former NAVDEVGRU Squadron Leader Chuck Pfarrer’s most recent assessments of the situations in Zaporizhzhia and Lyman:

ZAPORIZHZHIA NUCLEAR PLANT /01 OCT/ RU troops have kidnapped the director of Ukraine's Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. Ihor Murashov was forcibly removed from his car in the town of Enerhodar at 16:00 local time on Friday. https://t.co/tcFXT4vlyP pic.twitter.com/oDdgXMkYtS

— Chuck Pfarrer | Indications & Warnings | (@ChuckPfarrer) October 1, 2022

The BBC has the details on the abduction of Ihor Murashov:

Russian troops have detained the director of Ukraine’s Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, Ukraine’s state nuclear regulator Enerhoatom says.

It says Ihor Murashov was held as his car was on its way from the facility to the nearby town of Enerhodar at about 16:00 local time (13:00 GMT) on Friday.

He was then blindfolded and is believed to have been taken to a prison facility in Enerhodar, Enerhoatom’s president told the BBC.

Russia has not commented.

In a statement published on Saturday, Enerhoatom president Petro Kotin said that Mr Murashov “bears main and exclusive responsibility for the nuclear and radiation safety” of the nuclear plant.

He said Friday’s detention “jeopardises the safety of operation of Ukraine and Europe’s largest nuclear power plant”.

In addition, he told the BBC the detention happened as Russian President Vladimir Putin announced the annexation of four regions of Ukraine, including Zaporizhzhia.

Mr Kontin said representatives of Russia’s nuclear state company Rosatom had visited the plant “just two days ago”. They said the power plant would be transferred from Ukrainian control to Rosatom’s control in line with the annexation of the region.

Mr Kontin said he believed the move to kidnap Mr Musharov was an attempt to try and get him to accept the transfer of the power plant from Ukraine to Russia.

“They are trying to make him accept the move of [the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant] from Ukraine to Rosatom. But I am sure he is against it. Many times before he refused to accept the Russian world and so on,” Mr Kontin said.

The plant’s president appealed to the International Atomic Energy Agency to demand the immediate release of the plant’s chief, accusing Russia of “nuclear terrorism”.

LYMAN /1200 UTC 01 OCT/ RU forces at Lyman are now SURROUNDED. UKR units are in control of the O-0528 HWY and have established a blocking force E of Torske. It is estimated that from 2 to 5 thousand RU troops, plus their armor, artillery & vehicles, are now encircled. pic.twitter.com/mFyW2ZVGnp

— Chuck Pfarrer | Indications & Warnings | (@ChuckPfarrer) October 1, 2022

Ukrainian soldiers at the Lyman City Council

Soldiers of Ukraine's 81st separate airmobile brigade and the National Guard's battalion named after Kulchytskyi shared a video in which they announced the liberation of Lyman.
📹https://t.co/wYhg9LrRnG pic.twitter.com/qzYOCfB45H

— Euromaidan Press (@EuromaidanPress) October 1, 2022

Last night in the comments several of you were asking about the importance of Lyman and what the Ukrainians had been doing to set this part of the theater, this is an excellent thread that answers some of your questions:

Last week the 🇺🇦 forces started an unpresedented #HIMARS campaign on the 🇷🇺 supply hub Svatove. In 2 days at least 5 seperate targets where hit in & around Svatove. This town was a supply hub for the Lyman & Kupiansk front.1 strike took out the command of the 144th regiment. pic.twitter.com/VXCCOTTYtd

— NLwartracker (@NLwartracker) October 1, 2022

One was located on the East side of town at what seems to be a farm complex of some kind.Geolocation of the complex is [49.418245, 38.177272]. As is visible a single hit struck the roof area collapsing it.@GeoConfirmed pic.twitter.com/m6nDQx9aNP

— NLwartracker (@NLwartracker) October 1, 2022

For the next location we have to move south to the town of Miluvatka. Just on the outskirts of town next to the road toward Kremina, a warehouse complex Geolocation [49.340111, 38.186981] was struck by a full volley of HIMARS missiles wich destroyed every building.@GeoConfirmed pic.twitter.com/qSLYuZJqdY

— NLwartracker (@NLwartracker) October 1, 2022

All in all a very succesfull campaign, destroying not only supply capability of the 🇷🇺 forces, & also effectivly destroying C&C capabilities of the enemy before launching the offensive in Lyman & Kupiansk area's.#SlavaUkraïni @DefMon3 @bradyafr @ArtisanalAPT @AndrewPerpetua

— NLwartracker (@NLwartracker) October 1, 2022

Cole asked me earlier today how many Russian soldiers got trapped in Lyman. I have seen estimates ranging from 1,000 to 5,000. One of the major problems for the Russians in attempting to retreat from Lyman is that one of the retreating Russian units blew up the bridge they’d been using to escape before all the other Russian military units had crossed over. As a result the Russian military trapped the Russian military in Lyman.

It's 1 a.m. in Ukraine and there's a battle underway on the outskirts of Kreminna, Luhansk region.

Advancing Ukrainian troops are turning the Russian retreat from Lyman, Donetsk region, into a rout. pic.twitter.com/03xJr8VyM1

— Michael MacKay (@mhmck) September 30, 2022

Context for the previous video – the Russians retreating from Lyman had no time to disembark/unload before they were engaged in battle near Kreminna.

Note that Ukrainian special operations forces have night vision devices. Rashist militants mostly do not.https://t.co/eiUlffkFcY

— Michael MacKay (@mhmck) September 30, 2022

There is a large fire reportedly coming from the Belbek airfield in Crimea home to Russia’s 27th Composite Aviation Division. https://t.co/b5taLaor7W pic.twitter.com/uZWvaMTAeT

— Rob Lee (@RALee85) October 1, 2022

Video of the incident at Belbek airfield. Apparently, while landing, an aircraft ran past the runway and some of it’s ammunition detonated. The pilot reportedly survived. https://t.co/sftolFMW6U pic.twitter.com/TifLSaxlJv

— Rob Lee (@RALee85) October 1, 2022

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  1. 1.

    Another Scott

    October 1, 2022 at 10:24 pm

    Thanks as always, Adam.

    I just posted this way downstairs:

    Russian commentators are blaming a variety of issues or commanders for the fall of Lyman, but the primary problem is that they simply don't have the forces required to hold the current front lines and Putin is telling his military leaders they can't retreat. https://t.co/dHIAAd51aU

    — Rob Lee (@RALee85) October 1, 2022

    [rock].[hard place]

    VVP’s forces are the dot. [womp, womp]

    (via Oryx)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  2. 2.

    bbleh

    October 1, 2022 at 10:26 pm

    The … rottenness of the Russian military — no other word seems to fit — continues to astound me.

    Not to say that Ukrainian defense has been less than heroic, nor that western assistance less than invaluable, but … yikes!

    I think people would be less worried about nukes if they had performed more as expected.

    One wonders to what extent this was more or less known, both within Russia and in the western IC.

  3. 3.

    Gin & Tonic

    October 1, 2022 at 10:26 pm

    American pedophile praising russia on russian state TV:

    Depressed by Russia’s military failures, Kremlin-controlled state TV beamed in Scott Ritter to tell them how great the Russian military is doing and how much Americans respect Russia. pic.twitter.com/QS3ay19Rru
    — Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) October 1, 2022

  4. 4.

    Matt McIrvin

    October 1, 2022 at 10:26 pm

    ruscism

    Well, that’s an interesting word that I have seen for the first time. Mr. Zelenskyy seems to have a way with them.

  5. 5.

    zhena gogolia

    October 1, 2022 at 10:28 pm

    The jockeying for position with Kadyrov and Prigozhin is making me nervous.

  6. 6.

    trollhattan

    October 1, 2022 at 10:28 pm

    Thursday: “It’s mine!”
    Saturday: “Nope.”

    LFG Ukraine!

  7. 7.

    Alison Rose 💙🌻💛

    October 1, 2022 at 10:34 pm

    As a result the Russian military trapped the Russian military in Lyman.

    It’s amazing these assholes haven’t all died of embarrassment yet.

    With Mark Hamill on board as a United24 ambassador, we have some lovely Star Wars memes, including a good Fella one. Although I did have to explain that one to someone who had no idea of what NAFO was and it was an interesting conversation.

    Thank you as always, Adam. Hope you are well.

  8. 8.

    Gin & Tonic

    October 1, 2022 at 10:37 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: It’s a portmanteau (is that the right term?) of “russian” and “fascism” which has been in widespread use in Ukraine for quite some time.

  9. 9.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 1, 2022 at 10:37 pm

    but the primary problem is that they simply don’t have the forces required to hold the current front lines and Putin is telling his military leaders they can’t retreat.

    You know, this sounds a hell of a lot like the orders of a certain would be central European conqueror of Russia to his troops some 80 odd years ago, at this obscure conurbation along the Volga.

  10. 10.

    trollhattan

    October 1, 2022 at 10:38 pm

    Amazon is asking me to review a ceiling hook I bought. What should I say?

  11. 11.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 1, 2022 at 10:40 pm

    @Alison Rose 💙🌻💛: Rafael Cruz, predictably, is mocking this development.  Just cementing his existing reputation as a Putinist traitor.

  12. 12.

    dmsilev

    October 1, 2022 at 10:44 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:  I seem to remember that not working out very well for the would-be conqueror.

  13. 13.

    dmsilev

    October 1, 2022 at 10:44 pm

    @trollhattan: ‘It’s a hook. Which attaches to a ceiling. Five stars.’

  14. 14.

    Another Scott

    October 1, 2022 at 10:47 pm

    Other news happening now – AlJazeera:

    Indonesian police say at least 129 people have been killed and dozens injured after a stampede at a football match in the province of East Java.

    In a statement on Sunday, police said supporters of Arema FC stormed the pitch at the Kanjuruhan stadium in the eastern city of Malang after their team lost 3-2 to Persebaya Surabaya on Saturday night.

    Police said they tried to persuade fans to return to the stands and fired tear gas to control “riots” after two officers were killed. Hundreds of fans then ran to an exit gate in an effort to avoid the tear gas. Some suffocated in the chaos and many were trampled to death.

    “Thirty-four people died inside the stadium and the rest died in hospital,” said East Java Police Chief Nico Afinta.

    The death toll is likely still increasing, he said, since many of about 180 injured victims’ conditions were deteriorating.

    […]

    No words, except for the senselessness of it all.

    :-(

    Shocked,
    Scott.

  15. 15.

    Feathers

    October 1, 2022 at 10:48 pm

    The Lyman retreat is reminding me of my favorite Demotivational poster:

    MISTAKES

    It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others.

  16. 16.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 1, 2022 at 10:50 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Don’t forget Patrushev.

    Let’s be really honest, there is no way Kadyrov is going to take over the Russian Federation. He’s tolerated because he keeps the Chechens (mostly) in line for Putin, but as an ethnic Chechen, he’s not going to either depose Putin and take over or just take over once Putin goes. Prigozhin on the other hand is a possibility and likely the only oligarch with the ability to do so. Patrushev is clearly the insider favorite.

  17. 17.

    Alison Rose 💙🌻💛

    October 1, 2022 at 10:51 pm

    @Feathers: My fave was always the one for “meetings”, the tagline of which would also apply here: “None of us is as dumb as all of us.”

  18. 18.

    Captain C

    October 1, 2022 at 10:53 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    You know, this sounds a hell of a lot like a certain would be central European conqueror of Russia’s orders to his troops some 80 odd years ago, at this conurbation along the Volga.

    And several times thereafter, IIRC.

  19. 19.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 1, 2022 at 10:53 pm

    @Alison Rose 💙🌻💛: I am fine. Given where the storm made landfall and its path over and through Florida, we were barely within the outer edge of the storm. Had it been a mile or two farther east, we wouldn’t have even been within the outer edge at all. We had steady light to moderate rain and light to moderate wind with periodic gusts in the 30 mph range for about 36 hours or so and that was it. We were very, very, very, very fortunate.

  20. 20.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 1, 2022 at 10:55 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Order #227: Ni shagu nazad!

  21. 21.

    bbleh

    October 1, 2022 at 10:55 pm

    @trollhattan: “works as well for my enemies as for my houseplants!”

  22. 22.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 1, 2022 at 10:57 pm

    @trollhattan: How about: “Very well made and sturdy. I’ve been able to hang 1/2 a dozen people already and it has held up to the constant use. I would definitely recommend this product for hanging macrame, plants, or, for the serial homicide enthusiasts, people.”

  23. 23.

    Alison Rose 💙🌻💛

    October 1, 2022 at 10:58 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Amazing how close that margin is. Although I do recall visiting my grandparents in Delray Beach and sometimes it would be raining on one side of the highway and not on the other.

  24. 24.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 1, 2022 at 10:58 pm

    @Alison Rose 💙🌻💛: I’ve had it rain in my front yard and not my backyard.

  25. 25.

    Another Scott

    October 1, 2022 at 10:59 pm

    @trollhattan: “With the greatest anticipation, I opened up the beautifully packed package – I have never seen such high quality packing, short of my visit to Tokyo about 25 years ago when I bought a beautiful small paper and wooden model of a house, and the proprietor’s helper (a young man in a suit and tie) carefully and beautifully wrapped the house in tissue paper and carefully put it in colorful paper box and wrapped it a beautiful hand-made tissue paper with a carnation-like bow.

    “My hands were shaking as I opened the package and found my newest treasure.

    “It was a unique ceiling hook, carefully made in a artisan’s workshop in Manila.

    “I inspected it and was surprised and pleased by the high quality.  One doesn’t often see such impressive workmanship these days.

    “Unfortunately, it doesn’t fit the hole I drilled in my ceiling to mount it, and in the process of drilling the hole I electrocuted myself and spent 3 weeks in the hospital in intensive care because the shock damaged my pacemaker.  The total bill was $326,823.45 which I am contesting with my insurance company, but the stress caused me to have a heart attack which was another $125,992.87 hospital bill.

    “Also, there’s a scratch in the paint.

    “One star, because Amazon won’t let me leave a zero-star review.”

    Something like that??

    ;-)

    I hope it works out!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  26. 26.

    Alison Rose 💙🌻💛

    October 1, 2022 at 10:59 pm

    @trollhattan: Get dirty with it. “My sub and I both give it 5 stars. It makes the spankings much easier to administrate!”

  27. 27.

    Lyrebird

    October 1, 2022 at 11:01 pm

    There are some railroad enthusiasts here.

    This thread brings together more info about RU rail supply for their war efforts.

     

    h/t DCappadocia on DKos

  28. 28.

    Fair Economist

    October 1, 2022 at 11:01 pm

    Russian claims now of a UKR attack in the north of the Kherson region. From the map it would be a attempt to cut off the very Northern part of their position on the west bank of the Dnipro.

  29. 29.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 1, 2022 at 11:04 pm

    @Lyrebird: Don’t encourage them!//

  30. 30.

    Alison Rose 💙🌻💛

    October 1, 2022 at 11:05 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Florida is weird, man. Although y’all do know how to do flea markets down there. That was the main thing my grandparents couldn’t wait to show us after they moved there in the mid 90s. My mom and I were like “…………….why” and then they took us and we spent about four hours there, and my mother HATES shopping so that was about 3.97 hours more than she would normally spend.

  31. 31.

    justinb

    October 1, 2022 at 11:08 pm

    Another (not so good) update, and looking for advice. The diagnosis I was so happy about the other day turns out to not be correct. There’s been no response to treatment, and the condition has gotten worse. A pediatric GI specialist has put forward another theory that fits the facts, and the other Doctors, including his psychiatrist (which is important), and a psychologist (which is also important) concur. It is a very serious chronic condition that will require an extremely long time to reverse, with lots of work. I don’t go into it further.

    My wife is extremely upset because she partially blames herself for not being a good stepmom (which I disagree with), partially because she was so young when we got married (there’s a large age difference). She’s being very hard on herself, and I’m not sure what to do.

    M’s mom is really a hot mess. She hasn’t had a job in around 20 years, but is in a long-term relationship with a billionaire, with all that entails. M is in a high-pressure prep school that tracks to Ivies, and right now his mom is in the hospital because she fell down the stairs drunk. Before that she broke her leg skiing drunk. Before that it was some kind of weird drug thing nobody talks about. She’s an extremely stressful person, which he doesn’t need right now.

    I pay an absurd amount of alimony and child support for someone that has a house, car, clothes, and everything in life completely paid for by her boyfriend S (who is actually a really nice guy), and M’s school is paid for by S’s Mom.

    I need to know how to help my wife J understand it’s not her fault that M is sick – help?

  32. 32.

    Rocks

    October 1, 2022 at 11:11 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Wasn’t Stalin from Georgia?

  33. 33.

    Bill Arnold

    October 1, 2022 at 11:12 pm

    @Another Scott:
    Sure, the Russians don’t have the forces to hold these areas, but the angry calling-out of an institutional/governmental culture of lying is good to see (and such problems can’t be easily fixed).
    [translation] “the problem is the wide-scale lying, report of a situation being good. The system goes from top to bottom.”
    (Also, cultures of lying are vulnerable to exploitation by adversaries….)

  34. 34.

    Jay

    October 1, 2022 at 11:12 pm

    Don”t know if it is accurate or not, but,

    Wow.Ukrainian Defence Ministry, 30 min ago: "All Russian troops in Lyman either surrendered or dead."Thank you, God.Thank you, ZSU.— Fuat (@lilygrutcher) October 1, 2022

  35. 35.

    Kristine

    October 1, 2022 at 11:16 pm

    @trollhattan: “Worked well in my dungeon.”

  36. 36.

    Chetan Murthy

    October 1, 2022 at 11:16 pm

    @Jay: Over at dKos, Mark Sumner noted that all the videos coming out of Lyman lack one telltale bit of data: “booms”.  No sounds of fighting, of artillery, of any sort of explosions at all.  Just really quiet.  He suggests that that means that, yeah, Lyman really is in UA hands, and the RU have scooted (or died).

  37. 37.

    Lyrebird

    October 1, 2022 at 11:19 pm

    @justinb: I am just hearing about this.  Best wishes to you and your kid and your wife.

    FWIW, sometimes I think blaming myself is less scary than facing massive uncertainty.

    I hope the two of you are getting some support for yourselves.

  38. 38.

    Another Scott

    October 1, 2022 at 11:22 pm

    @justinb: I’m sorry you all are going through all of that.

    Talking about it with J is an important part of reducing the stress.  I often try to come up with ways to fix things (I’m an engineer) when my J usually mainly wants to express herself and get the feelings out and know that I understand what she’s going through.  Express yourselves and listen and don’t immediately try to find solutions – those will come later.

    Nobody can fix other people on their own, and kids usually have a hard time at some point no matter what.  Be there for M as best you can.  People and circumstance are different and complicated but being there can be a huge help.

    I hope this helps a little.  Good luck!

    Best wishes,
    Scott.

  39. 39.

    patrick II

    October 1, 2022 at 11:22 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    How big is your house?

  40. 40.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    October 1, 2022 at 11:27 pm

    That Civilian Convoy attack is truly a WTF? The Russians are in a bad situation, so they use some expensive missile, they have a limited number of, for a war crime that won’t help them one bit.

  41. 41.

    Anonymous At Work

    October 1, 2022 at 11:29 pm

    All my questions and concerns and Lyman surrenders.  “Why doesn’t Sevastopol just surrender to Ukraine?”

    So I’m guessing Svatove from the south to link Kup’yans’k along the P-07 and push east to Lysychans’k, where Ukraine bled Russian forces back in May.  Both look to be territory not easily defended due to geography.  Those look to be good lines to have to keep Russia on its toes since Ukraine has some nice interior lines to exploit, including a push south towards Dontesk and a separate front from Zaporizhzhia.

    So, where does Russia send reinforcements that would actually do some good?

  42. 42.

    featheredsprite

    October 1, 2022 at 11:33 pm

    @justinb: Have one of your doctors talk with her and explain cause and effect.

    Good luck.

  43. 43.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 1, 2022 at 11:35 pm

    @Rocks: He was. But the Russian Federation is not the Soviet Union. And Kadyrov is not Stalin.

  44. 44.

    Chetan Murthy

    October 1, 2022 at 11:36 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: One would think that Kadyrov being Muslim would make him unacceptable to Russian elites, all “Third Rome” as they are.

  45. 45.

    Jay

    October 1, 2022 at 11:37 pm

    We thank the “Ministry of Defense” of 🇷🇺 for successful cooperation in organizing the "Izyum 2.0" exercise. Almost all russian troops deployed to Lyman were successfully redeployed either into body bags or into 🇺🇦 captivity. We have one question for you: Would you like a repeat? pic.twitter.com/wmPi2LJROw— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) October 1, 2022

  46. 46.

    Chetan Murthy

    October 1, 2022 at 11:38 pm

    @Jay:

    Would you like a repeat?

    I wonder how close to “we can repeat” that would sound in Russian.   [chuckle … chuckle … LOL]

  47. 47.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 1, 2022 at 11:41 pm

    @Jay: From the Ukrainian MOD about 11 hours ago:

    We thank the “Ministry of Defense” of 🇷🇺 for successful cooperation in organizing the "Izyum 2.0" exercise. Almost all russian troops deployed to Lyman were successfully redeployed either into body bags or into 🇺🇦 captivity. We have one question for you: Would you like a repeat? pic.twitter.com/wmPi2LJROw

    — Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) October 1, 2022

  48. 48.

    sdhays

    October 1, 2022 at 11:43 pm

    @Chetan Murthy: Based on that reporting, it sounds like it was a real slaughter for the Russians trying to leave Lyman, to the point some Ukrainian soldiers have been traumatized by the horror of it.

  49. 49.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 1, 2022 at 11:43 pm

    @patrick II: Not the current house. The one I grew up in in Tampa. We were on about a 1/3 to a 1/2 acre lot. The backyard was huge!

  50. 50.

    Mike in NC

    October 1, 2022 at 11:44 pm

    @Feathers: Those Demotivation posters are brilliant.

  51. 51.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 1, 2022 at 11:45 pm

    @Anonymous At Work: Home. They could send them home. Or Artaskh, which Putin promised to keep the peace in and has so far failed to do. Both in 2020 and in 2022.

  52. 52.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 1, 2022 at 11:45 pm

    @Chetan Murthy: That’s part of it.

  53. 53.

    Chetan Murthy

    October 1, 2022 at 11:45 pm

    @sdhays: you’ve probably seen this.

    https://ukrainevolunteer297689472.wordpress.com/2022/09/30/its-a-slaughter/

    Ukraine Volunteer Transcripts

    “its a slaughter”

  54. 54.

    sdhays

    October 1, 2022 at 11:58 pm

    @Anonymous At Work: A big problem, for Russia, seems to be that they don’t really have lots of reserves at this point. They burned through a lot in their incredibly costly and ineffective offensives and now have a very large number trapped in Kherson, which they can’t redeploy because Ukraine has the ability to prevent any major crossing of the Dnipro.

    And each major loss compounds this problem, with massive amounts of irreplaceable heavy equipment destroyed or captured, and large amounts of also irreplaceable (because Russia can’t and won’t properly train new recruits) soldiers killed, captured, or otherwise incapacitated. So each new defensive line Russia tries to create will be weaker than the last one because a bunch of people and equipment are no longer available to defend it.

  55. 55.

    Anonymous At Work

    October 1, 2022 at 11:58 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: He could also load them on boats to clean up the Great Pacific Garbage Patch.  I ain’t holding my breath.  Operating from an assumption that he’s sending non-ethnic-Russians to the front without adequate supplies, where is he sending them?  Shore up NE, attack from the east, Kherson meat-grinder, etc.?

  56. 56.

    Jay

    October 2, 2022 at 12:01 am

    UKR drone footage shows hundreds of Russian troops, leaving Lyman via Zarichne yesterday with their heavy weapons.Despite the Ukrainian surveillance of the massive withdrawal, no artillery or other impacts can be seen.So feel free to think what you want. I see a green corridor. pic.twitter.com/UBaGXjQMcO— Julian Röpcke🇺🇦 (@JulianRoepcke) October 1, 2022

  57. 57.

    moops

    October 2, 2022 at 12:09 am

    Soldiers feeling bad about slaughtering invading troops can take the next week touring the mass graves and torture victims they are going to find everywhere in Lyman.      They will find war crimes in every town and village and city they kick the Russians out of, far outnumbering the soldiers mowed down in the fields.

  58. 58.

    Chetan Murthy

    October 2, 2022 at 12:12 am

    @moops: Ukrainian soldiers are humans, and civilized humans.  Civilized humans have a natural reflex against killing other humans.  Sure, soldiers are trained to do it.  But slaughter on a mass scale is going to affect people, and we shouldn’t be surprised.

    And this holds even when the adversary they’re slaughtering has committed war crimes against their own people.  I’m not saying that RU soldiers don’t deserve it.  Rather: that UA soldiers are human and decent people.

  59. 59.

    patrick II

    October 2, 2022 at 12:13 am

    @justinb:

    I will second Another Scott’s suggestion that it is not always helpful to try and find immediate solutions.  Listen carefully, show love and understanding, and be patient.

    I learned a strange thing watching the Disney show “Industrial Light and Magic” from George Lucas.  When talking with his engineers about a problem and instead of insisting it be fixed or offering specific solutions, he would instead say “well, you think about it” and leave it at that.  And with less pressure, the engineer would think about it and often come up with a solution themselves.

    So, anyhow, I also have a family member who also has had a really bad year.  And we talk, I listen with heart, say something about goals (but not too much and with no insistence) and why, and stop before I get to solutions and let them think about it.  They have been coming back to me with their own suggestions and I think we have been moving forward.

    Patience, love, space, listening.

  60. 60.

    phdesmond

    October 2, 2022 at 12:13 am

    @Matt McIrvin:

    i prefer the spelling Ruscism to “rashism.”  it more clearly indicates the components of the word.

  61. 61.

    Alison Rose 💙🌻💛

    October 2, 2022 at 12:13 am

    @Adam L Silverman: Whoever runs that Twitter page is brilliant. Honestly, Ukraine’s social media/meme game has been perfection from the start. Does russia even have memes? Are they the equivalent of when Republicans try to make jokes here and we’re like, okay you do not understand what humor is.

  62. 62.

    ByRookorbyCrook

    October 2, 2022 at 12:18 am

    @moops: It is not a weakness to feel humanity towards your enemy. The act says nothing about the Russians and everything about the defenders. Do not deny the troops humanity for revenge. It is too dear a cost. They are continuing to fight and I hope will continue to hate the necessity of it.

  63. 63.

    Chetan Murthy

    October 2, 2022 at 12:19 am

    @Alison Rose 💙🌻💛: It’s not as if Russia is immune to humor.  I mean, Window on Eurasia regularly posts translations of Russian jokes from Tatyana Pushkaryova

    http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.com/2022/09/an-old-soviet-anecdote-returns-what-is.html

    Like: “What is the Maly (Little) Theater? The Bolshoi (Large) after a Foreign Tour”

  64. 64.

    Jay

    October 2, 2022 at 12:23 am

    .@ZelenskyyUa giving out posthumous awards to the families of the fallen defenders of Ukraine pic.twitter.com/N9mFY83gvO— Saint Javelin (@saintjavelin) September 30, 2022

  65. 65.

    Amir Khalid

    October 2, 2022 at 12:23 am

    So far the mobilisation has done the Russian military situation in Ukraine no good at all. What are the chances that Putin will quietly abandon it, and what else could he still try?

  66. 66.

    Halteclere

    October 2, 2022 at 12:26 am

    @trollhattan:

    Amazon is asking me to review a ceiling hook I bought. What should I say?

    It screwed up. 1 star

  67. 67.

    sdhays

    October 2, 2022 at 12:28 am

    Artists can be so creative: https://twitter.com/GlasnostGone/status/1576193577738436608?s=20&t=HpHjsOzxDYfyiPeSAtZa9A.

  68. 68.

    sdhays

    October 2, 2022 at 12:31 am

    @Amir Khalid: Since Putin doesn’t have a reverse mode, I assume the response will be to “partially” mobilize another 300k, this time making them supply their own uniforms and weapons as well as requiring that they pay for the bus/train tickets to Ukraine out of their own pockets.

  69. 69.

    justinb

    October 2, 2022 at 12:33 am

    @Halteclere: 5 star review!

  70. 70.

    Mike in NC

    October 2, 2022 at 12:34 am

    @Amir Khalid: In 1914 almost all of Europe feared the “Russian Steamroller”, which turned out to be pretty much a joke.

  71. 71.

    columbusqueen

    October 2, 2022 at 12:45 am

    @Adam L Silverman: Great minds think alike, though your phrasing is much better than mine.

  72. 72.

    Geoduck

    October 2, 2022 at 12:46 am

    Re the hook review, I guess a Satan reference would be a little over the top, maybe one of the lesser devils could get a shout out…

  73. 73.

    Alison Rose 💙🌻💛

    October 2, 2022 at 12:46 am

    @Jay: Every time I watch a video of him doing this, I’m struck anew by his compassion and empathy. You can clearly tell how important it is to him to do this himself, to show support and care towards the victims’ families. There was a previous one where at one point, he was handing the medal to a man and woman, and the man was holding a tiny baby. Zelenskyy shook the woman’s hand, then the man’s…then he shook the baby’s hand. My heart practically exploded.

    The contrast between his leadership and that of the evil shitbag across the border is impossible to quantify.

  74. 74.

    Chetan Murthy

    October 2, 2022 at 12:49 am

    @Alison Rose 💙🌻💛: Two different definitions of leadership:

    Vova does everything to scare, to hound, his people into fighting.  To give them no alternative but to fight.  Zelenskiyy, it would appear (and I think it’s reality) does everything to inspire his people to fight, to give them reasons to want to fight.  And to know that he is with them in that fight.

    Completely different ideas of leadership.

  75. 75.

    Jay

    October 2, 2022 at 12:51 am

    She was beaten & forced to kneel, made to believe she'd be executed. "They tried to force me to learn the Russian anthem, but I refused." The remarkable bravery of 🇺🇦 teachers in occupied #Ukraine – who refused to teach Ukraine was Russian territory. https://t.co/BO23aO4QCN— Glasnost Gone (@GlasnostGone) October 1, 2022

  76. 76.

    Alison Rose 💙🌻💛

    October 2, 2022 at 12:53 am

    @Chetan Murthy: Yes, exactly. As someone put it in a Vox video, “He’s proven worthy of the nation that he’s leading.” Ukrainians were always tough as nails, of course.

  77. 77.

    Jay

    October 2, 2022 at 12:55 am

    The Art of War pic.twitter.com/OIZolCEvrJ— Sofia Ukraini (@SlavaUk30722777) October 1, 2022

  78. 78.

    Jinchi

    October 2, 2022 at 12:58 am

    @sdhays: ​
      (because Russia can’t and won’t properly train new recruits)

    This is strangely exasperating. On the one hand I’m thrilled that Russia’s military is a disfunctional disaster and not the 2nd greatest military machine everyone thought they were. But on the other hand, part of me thinks that if they gave a damn about their own people, they might have scoped out the costs of invading Ukraine and taken a hard pass. Putin wouldn’t be demanding they hold an impossible line and he wouldn’t vent his frustrations at their failures by launching anti-air missiles at caravans of fleeing refugees.

  79. 79.

    Chetan Murthy

    October 2, 2022 at 1:02 am

    via annieli at dKos:

    Plenty of things worth criticizing in this video. I won’t be doing that though. The important takeaway here is that Ukraine (and beyond just this unit) is invested in the idea that training must be continuous and close range shooting skills are INCREDIBLY difficult to train. https://t.co/6oM9ueMV4V
    — Ukraine Memes for NATO Teens (@LivFaustDieJung) October 1, 2022

  80. 80.

    Jay

    October 2, 2022 at 1:07 am

    🇫🇷 France cancels the delivery of 12 Caesar self-propelled guns ordered by Denmark to transfer them to Ukraine – Le Monde newspaper #UkraineWar #UkraineWillWin #NAFOexpansion pic.twitter.com/N5ZRBURXeP— Ukraine War Now ✙ (@uarealitynow) October 1, 2022

  81. 81.

    Emma from Miami

    October 2, 2022 at 1:14 am

    @Jay: Lord Jesus. How does he find the fortitude to do this day in and day out?

    There are people that seem to emerge suddenly to take center stage and become exactly what the world needs. He is one of the best of them.

  82. 82.

    Carlo Graziani

    October 2, 2022 at 1:21 am

    @Lyrebird: I’ve been reaching the same conclusions as that guy. I’m writing something up on it.

  83. 83.

    NutmegAgain

    October 2, 2022 at 1:21 am

    @Adam L Silverman: Thank goodness for the mercies we are dealt.  A couple of weird Stalin factoids–some will know, others may not–his Georgian last name was Jughashvili. He adopted Stalin (steel man). In more image-shaping, he disliked making public announcements via radio, since his countrified Georgian accent remained strong, and he sounded like a hayseed.

  84. 84.

    JaySinWA

    October 2, 2022 at 1:33 am

    @trollhattan: “i am not a hooker”

  85. 85.

    hotshoe

    October 2, 2022 at 1:48 am

    @Jay: made me cry, thanks

  86. 86.

    Chetan Murthy

    October 2, 2022 at 2:06 am

    Thread from Christo Grozev on the fall of Lyman, from russian perspective

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1576357294098460675.html?utm_source=subscriptions_mailer&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=real_time

  87. 87.

    Carlo Graziani

    October 2, 2022 at 2:11 am

    @justinb: One day at a time. Some of them will be better than others.

    If I had to take a wild guess, I’d start from the fact that your current wife sounds sane, and certainly knows that she did nothing to cause either M’s illness or his difficulties adjusting or his stress. She’s possibly distraught because she’d hoped for a role as a mother, or a mother-adjacent, with M, and feels like a failure for not being able to fulfill that role, because of the constrained conditions of your family, and because this is probably the worst possible time to attempt to establish that type of rapport.

    If that diagnosis is correct—as I said, it’s just a guess—then perhaps the right play is to try to persuade her that the right time to establish that rapport will come, but the crisis must pass first. Hoping for M to see the madness in his natural mother’s ways now that his life feels under siege seems outside the bounds of what a frightened person can be asked to see. That bond is likely much too strong.

    Assuming that he can get well—it is remarkable how resilient people who want to live can be, and how good modern medicine can be at helping them—your wife and M can eventually build up a relationship that is independent of the one that he has with his mother, and that could be more stable and durable. The fact that this has not happened now is natural, and no failure. The fact that she feels as she does shows what a good person she is, and what a good friend she will eventually be to M.

    Armchair stuff on a blog, I’m afraid. There’s also counseling, including couples counseling, which could actually deliver some real value, if you become concerned that this situation is compromising your marriage. I would not hesitate to take advantage of the option in that case.

  88. 88.

    Carlo Graziani

    October 2, 2022 at 2:29 am

    To be honest, I have no idea what NLwartracker is talking about when referring to Svatove as a “supply hub for the Lyman & Kupiansk front”. The only plausible rail supply trucking hub for those fronts at this point is Starobilsk.

  89. 89.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 2, 2022 at 3:51 am

    @Adam L Silverman: One thing you don’t say on the radio telephone is “repeat”, unless you want that last artillery volley fired again.

  90. 90.

    Warblewarble

    October 2, 2022 at 4:15 am

    Lyman first nail in putins coffin , with more to follow.

  91. 91.

    J R in WV

    October 2, 2022 at 4:20 am

    Thanks Adam for tracking the rapidly changing and complex situation in E Ukraine! So proud of the troopers the UK people have been able to deploy in defense of their nation! Brave men and women doing good work!

  92. 92.

    JR

    October 2, 2022 at 5:13 am

    @Adam L Silverman: Reviewed by: John C. Woods.

  93. 93.

    justinb

    October 2, 2022 at 7:21 am

    @Carlo Graziani: Thank you so much. This is very helpful, and very good advice. J picked M up the other day and while he came into the house, she sat in the car and just cried because she was so distraught to see someone she loved vomit into a bag over and over on a 40 minute car ride. M is pretending everything is ok, butt I know he’s scared as hell. Your kind words are soothing.

  94. 94.

    zhena gogolia

    October 2, 2022 at 7:57 am

    @Adam L Silverman: I guess I mean more the pressure they are bringing to bear on Putler to drop a nuke.

  95. 95.

    zhena gogolia

    October 2, 2022 at 7:59 am

    @justinb: I’m so sorry. I hope the docs make some progress soon. And it sounds as if it’s something that is nobody’s fault at all.

  96. 96.

    zhena gogolia

    October 2, 2022 at 8:20 am

    @phdesmond: It doesn’t lead to the right pronunciation.

  97. 97.

    zhena gogolia

    October 2, 2022 at 8:21 am

    @Alison Rose 💙🌻💛: Yes. Yes.

  98. 98.

    zhena gogolia

    October 2, 2022 at 8:21 am

    @Chetan Murthy: Those aren’t Putinist Russians. Putinist Russians have as much humor as Ben Shapiro.

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