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Even though I know this is a bad idea, I’m off to do it anyway!

One lie, alone, tears the fabric of reality.

I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.

Not all heroes wear capes.

Today’s gop: why go just far enough when too far is right there?

Never entrust democracy to any process that requires Republicans to act in good faith.

Only Democrats have agency, apparently.

“Just close your eyes and kiss the girl and go where the tilt-a-whirl takes you.” ~OzarkHillbilly

The Supreme Court is corrupt. Democrats must win in November and force court reform.

Wake up. Grow up. Get in the fight.

They were going to turn on one another at some point. It was inevitable.

Accused of treason; bitches about the ratings. I am in awe.

Don’t expect peaches from an apple tree.

“Joe Biden deserved better than he got from some folks in his own party.”

Republican also-rans: four mules fighting over a turnip.

It’s always darkest before the other shoe drops.

You don’t get to peddle hatred on saturday and offer condolences on sunday.

Why is it so hard for them to condemn hate?

Technically true, but collectively nonsense

You come for women, you’re gonna get your ass kicked.

“I was told there would be no fact checking.”

If you are still in the gop, you are either an extremist yourself, or in bed with those who are.

We’ve had enough carrots to last a lifetime. break out the sticks.

Jack Smith: “Why did you start campaigning in the middle of my investigation?!”

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Age hath its problems, too… but there are helpers:

Peace of Mind Dog Rescue has helped seniors and senior dogs since the nonprofit group was started by Carie Broecker and Monica Rua in 2009.

Broecker, 56, said she came up with the idea of helping vulnerable dogs and their elderly owners while she was caring for a friend’s dog 13 years ago…

“I thought, ‘What if we were to take in dogs from people who were dying, had already passed away or were going into nursing homes,” said Broecker, noting that studies show dogs improve the quality of life for seniors.

Rua said she was on board, but she also wanted to take in senior dogs from shelters because they were among the first to be euthanized.

“Carie and I had volunteered together at another dog rescue, and I was always heartbroken to see older dogs passed over or having a harder time in that environment,” Rua said.

“Senior dogs still have a lot to offer,” she added.

Peace of Mind Dog Rescue now finds homes for senior dogs in shelters, and also for dogs whose senior owners can no longer care for them. The group has around 1,300 volunteers who walk dogs for seniors who can’t, as well as provide veterinary care and assist in setting up pet trusts to ensure a dog’s care after a guardian dies.

“We want to give dogs — and their owners — dignity in their older years,” Broecker said. “Once a dog comes to us, we oversee them for the rest of their lives.”

The rescue group has found homes for more than 3,000 dogs and has helped more than 2,000 pets stay at home with their owners through their Helping Paw program, she said…

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  5. 5.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Baud: Yeah, but until now the RWNJs could be in denial about it.

    I don’t care if Velma’s straight or gay, but I enjoy watching them lose it over trivial shit like the color, gender, or orientation of fictional characters.

  6. 6.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Baud:

    i particularly liked this reply:

    If they [conservative men] complain they can’t find a woman, just tell them that the free market has spoken.

  7. 7.

    Cameron

    As this is an open thread, I figured I’d drop some happy news from Florida.  Y’all thought Sanibel Island looks like it got hit with a nuclear weapon?  Heard all that stuff about how dangerous it is to build on barrier islands?  Well, suck it, libtards – Governor DeSantis has announced that those spots are going to be rebuilt, no ifs, ands, or buts.  Pwned again, woke Marxo-groomers! Haw, haw, haw.

    https://patch.com/florida/sarasota/s/if4sv/decimated-causeway-bridge-to-pine-island-to-be-repaired-by-saturday

  10. 10.

    Jeffro

    @lowtechcyclist: Tucker: “First they un-sexy-ed the green M&M, and then they made Velma a lesbian??!  Great.  NOW what am I supposed to wh…er…what, um…what smoldering fictional female icon will be taken from us next?”

  12. 12.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    We inherited our last dog from a friend who died. Roxy was old by the time we got her, and she was a joy. I still miss her.

    ETA: I missed the info about Velma coming out. Good for Velma. I’d say we already knew that, but a friend’s teen daughter once said no one’s anything until they tell you. I have tried to follow that bit of wisdom

  13. 13.

    Suzanne

    @Jeffro: If Baud’s Reddit thread is any evidence, they’re not having much luck finding nonfictional women, either.

    I don’t know how this cohort can be this dumb. Dating, relationships, whatever…. It’s a market. If you want to find someone, make yourself more attractive to those people. Why is this difficult to grok?

  15. 15.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Cameron:

    Y’all thought Sanibel Island looks like it got hit with a nuclear weapon?  Heard all that stuff about how dangerous it is to build on barrier islands?  Well, suck it, libtards – Governor DeSantis has announced that those spots are going to be rebuilt, no ifs, ands, or buts.  Pwned again, woke Marxo-groomers! Haw, haw, haw.

    I’m reminded of the king of Swamp Castle in MP&HG, only it’ll keep on getting worse.

  16. 16.

    lowtechcyclist

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Looks like a gorgeous morning for a walk!

    Glad it is somewhere!  Here in beautiful Calvert County, MD, it’s been raining since Friday, and it’s still raining.  No idea how much rain we got last night, but it was coming down like a torrent.

  17. 17.

    Baud

    @Suzanne: Their problem is that making themselves more attractive to women makes them less attractive to the voters they need to win.

  18. 18.

    Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

    My prediction on Musk’s latest tantrum move – Twitter refuses to continue the trial and abate the lawsuit, because they don’t want to give him the opportunity to claim force majeure when he can’t find financing anymore and announces that the SEC “won’t let me dump that many shares of TSLA all at once”.

    I think the cool billion penalty (plus litigation expenses, and the upcoming shareholder suits) will gut his liquidity, and might spin his dumb ass into Chapter 11.

  20. 20.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    This morning, I’m having my one-week follow up visit after my second cataract surgery. I hope he tells me I can at least quit with one or two of the eye drops. At the moment, I have 5 little bottles lined up on the sink. But my vision is continuing to improve. I’m pleased

  23. 23.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Cameron:

    I don’t know if this is DeSantis or a badly-needs-an-editor reporter, but this made me craugh*:

    [“]We should be focusing on what we can do to lift people up and stop incessantly talking and trying to cast dispersion on people who were doing the best job they could with imperfect information.”

    *A portmanteau of cringe and laugh that I just made up

  24. 24.

    Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

    @Cameron:

    There are no people more worthy of saving than hardscrabble bootstrapping boomer retirees and the sort of land and finance speculators that provide services for them on the barrier islands that they insist are appropriate for 6000 square foot, ornately decorated and constructed McMansions (purposebuilt for 2).

    When I was a kid, I remember that your basic Florida beach house consisted of a 1400 square foot cheaply repaired (or rebuilt) bungalow with drippy window AC and an indoor/outdoor carpet.

  26. 26.

    Jeffro

    @Suzanne: wait, you’re not asking red-blooded ‘Merican males to compromise on their rock-ribbed, red-white-and-blue values, are you?  🤣

    My oft-mentioned RWNJ brother is single and just turned 50.  Meanwhile, me and Mrs. Fro are about to celebrate our 25th anniversary next month.  The Market (blessed be its name) hath spoken! LOL

  27. 27.

    Baud

    What I don’t get is that, sadly, there does not seem to be a shortage of conservative women out there.

  29. 29.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    It seems to me that one problem conservatives have today is that their candidates are bad at governing. They produce chaos and economic disruption. Surely those are antithetical to traditional conservative concerns, particularly those of the business community.

  30. 30.

    Soprano2

    @Baud: Maybe conservative women don’t like their shit, either. It seems that the new conservative dating site is full of men, with few real women to be found. The irony is, I’m always seeing posts by conservative men about how liberal women are ugly and conservative women are the hot ones! I guess they never consider that they repel all the women.

  31. 31.

    Ken

    @Cameron: decimated-causeway-bridge-to-pine-island-to-be-repaired-by-saturday

    DeSantis is imitating Putin’s three-day deadlines. Let us hope, for the sake of anyone driving over that bridge, that the engineers can push back effectively.

  36. 36.

    Soprano2

    Now I know for sure that Lee County is Republican, because if it were run by Democrats DeSantis wouldn’t say this:

    “You don’t have to politicize every single tragedy in this country,” he said. “I think people are tired of that. We have so many people that are here, working hard to pull themselves up. We should be focusing on what we can do to lift people up and stop incessantly talking and trying to cast dispersion on people who were doing the best job they could with imperfect information.”

    Lee County officials have been criticized for waiting until Tuesday to institute mandatory evacuations for residents expected to be impacted by the hurricane.

  37. 37.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Baud:

    What I don’t get is that, sadly, there does not seem to be a shortage of conservative women out there.

    Coupla thoughts about that.

    One thought is that a lot of the whining is coming from ‘junior politicos’ on the right – people working as staff in Congressional offices or at RWNJ nonprofits headquartered in the DC area.

    They are well and truly unfucked, as George Carlin would put it, because the DC area is a very liberal area: DC itself, and the inner ring of suburbs too.  You really have to trek out to the exurbs before you get to even kinda-sorta Trump country.

    And of course, like everywhere else, women lean more liberal than men do. So when they look for single women in DC, they’re not finding many, either in the bars or on the dating sites, who are interested in spending time with them once their politics are clear.

    And even outside the DC area, if they’re living and working in cities, cities even in red states tend to be blue territory.

    But (second thought) even when they’re living in red America, a lot of them just don’t want to bother with the one place one can be almost assured of finding a surplus of conservative women: church.  They might claim ‘evangelical’ as tribal identity, but that isn’t where they want to spend their Sunday mornings, let alone their Wednesday nights.  Meanwhile, practically every church you see has noticeably more women than men, and that’s certainly true for evangelical churches.

    So if they’re not willing to go to church to find a romantic partner, that’s their problem.

  39. 39.

    Baud

    @lowtechcyclist:

    But (second thought) even when they’re living in red America, a lot of them just don’t want to bother with the one place one can be almost assured of finding a surplus of conservative women: church.

    I thought you were going to be a cad and say “abortion clinic.”

  42. 42.

    Betty Cracker

    @Soprano2: It’s a red-leaning county, plus DeSantis senses his own political vulnerability on that question. That’s why Republicans are flooding the zone with lies about the feds making white people go to the back of the line for hurricane aid.

  46. 46.

    prostratedragon

    @SiubhanDuinne:  Back in the day my 7-year-old brother made some snappy comment about a modest Saturday dinner. Dad motivated him to the next room where a couple of minutes low, intense conversation took place, after which Bud came back in and meekly apologized for “casting dispersions” on Mom’s meal. She somehow accepted without ruining the intended effect. (It wasn’t easy.)

  48. 48.

    Ken

    @lowtechcyclist: a lot of the whining is coming from ‘junior politicos’ on the right

    Given the toxic “alpha male” memes, I’m surprised one of these guys hasn’t killed his boss, thinking that he will slip into the open slot and get access to the dead man’s women, gold, and lands.

  49. 49.

    Suzanne

    @Jeffro:

    wait, you’re not asking red-blooded ‘Merican males to compromise on their rock-ribbed, red-white-and-blue values, are you?  🤣 

    In all seriousness, I’m asking them to do a dispassionate analysis of identifying their “target market”, finding out what those people positively respond to, and then work on improving themselves in that to those ends. (This is, after all, what marketing people do.) It seems like a distinctly male/patriarchal position that this kind of strategy is not necessary.

    Come to think of it, this is where I think the failure is with a lot of this so-called “white working class man” cohort….. I saw it in my some of my high school classmates over and over and over, this blithe lack of concern that careers might require strategy or planning (or more education past C’s in high school). It just seemed like there was absolutely no fear that the well-paying job — or the attractive-enough life partner — wouldn’t materialize.

    The resentment seems to be that this whole successful life thing was assumed to be straightforward and in fact it is not.

  52. 52.

    Baud

    @Suzanne:

     It just seemed like there was absolutely no fear that the well-paying job — or the attractive-enough life partner — wouldn’t materialize.

    Probably explains their attraction to rich douchecanoes.  They are living the dream.

  54. 54.

    MattF

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Good news. For me, the steroid drops (prednisilone) caused a blood pressure spike- apparently an unusual side-effect. I’d get a BP check, though, if you’re prone to BP variability.

  56. 56.

    p.a.

    Casting dispersions is a form of transporter malfunction, isn’t it?  Didn’t Scotty or Miles O’Brien solve that issue?

  57. 57.

    Suzanne

    @lowtechcyclist:

    But (second thought) even when they’re living in red America, a lot of them just don’t want to bother with the one place one can be almost assured of finding a surplus of conservative women: church.  They might claim ‘evangelical’ as tribal identity, but that isn’t where they want to spend their Sunday mornings, let alone their Wednesday nights.  Meanwhile, practically every church you see has noticeably more women than men, and that’s certainly true for evangelical churches. 

    Many of those women don’t want to fuck until they’re married or in a committed relationship.

  58. 58.

    Layer8Problem

    @Betty Cracker:  By definition if one of those people steps into a line and a non-white person’s ahead of them in that line, the non-white person has an “unfair advantage”; see also “You People have to go to the rear of the bus.”

  60. 60.

    raven

    @SiubhanDuinne: If only I could walk (any distance). We started going to the dog park at the VFW when my bride broke her foot (when Artie spooked when a branch fell off of a tree) and could not take her for her long walks. Now I spend a couple of hours there every day and Artie does really well off the leash as opposed to how terrible she is with other dogs when she’s leashed.

  61. 61.

    Cliosfanboy

    @lowtechcyclist: As the Christian satire site The Wittenberg Door said many years ago, fundy churches of full of pretty young women looking their best to catch a husband they can submit to.

  62. 62.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Soprano2:

    The irony is, I’m always seeing posts by conservative men about how liberal women are ugly

    Sour grapes, methinks.

    and conservative women are the hot ones!

    My WAG is that any genuinely hot conservative women have their pick of conservative guys.  They may exist, but the vast majority of conservative men aren’t going to get into bed with one.

  63. 63.

    Geminid

    @Cameron: In the CO 3rd CD primary debate, Lauren Boebert tried to accuse her opponent of having “ulterior motives” when he cast a particular vote in the state legislature. But it came came out of her motormouth as “alternate motors.”

  65. 65.

    Cliosfanboy

    We’ve adopted some elderly dogs. They were/are wonderful, but it’s so hard to lose them so quickly.  :(

  67. 67.

    narya

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: I am so glad to hear this! I’ve been waiting for that news from you–my dad actually lost the sight in one eye from his cataract surgery, but I did NOT want to say that before you had it done! That surgery is generally unproblematic . . . but not always.

    @Ken: A plot of an old Donald Westlake novel, IIRC . . .

  68. 68.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @NotMax:

    Thank you. I knew deep in my bones that you’d be the first one to notice.

    ETA: Several other bright commenters also did, only moments later. Don’t know why “casting dispersions” caused me to react so strongly. Lack of coffee, perhaps.

  70. 70.

    Suzanne

    @lowtechcyclist:

    My WAG is that any genuinely hot conservative women have their pick of conservative guys.  They may exist, but the vast majority of conservative men aren’t going to get into bed with one. 

    Agree. 100%.
    Plus there’s a mismatch of what lots of these dudes want (of course). The submissive tradwife type is usually not also the “insatiable whore” type.

  71. 71.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg:

    When I was a kid, I remember that your basic Florida beach house consisted of a 1400 square foot cheaply repaired (or rebuilt) bungalow with drippy window AC and an indoor/outdoor carpet.

    @Betty Cracker:

    As God intended!

    Damn straight!  I assume the culprit has to be Federal flood insurance, because I can’t see private insurers taking on the risk involved in insuring coastal mini-mansions.  Small and cheaply built is the natural state of coastal housing.

  72. 72.

    Brachiator

    Anyone use services like Uber Eats or GrubHub for restaurant delivery?

    During the pandemic slowdown I would order some stuff from Amazon, but otherwise could get out to the market and the occasional restaurant with outside service. But I am now slowed down by a leg injury and see that Amazon Prime members can get 1 year of GrubHub without having to pay their service fee.

    But I also hear that some restaurants think that what Uber Eats and other services charge them is too much. I just want an easy and convenient way of ordering an occasional meal when I don’t feel like cooking. But I don’t want to hurt area restaurants by using these delivery services.

  73. 73.

    Suzanne

    @lowtechcyclist: I was remarking yesterday how the conservative/blue-collar dude internet keeps asserting that they are fitter/stronger than white-collar dudes because they do physical labor (as opposed to sitting at a desk all day) and are thus more attractive. (Seriously, I have seen a lot of this type of comment.) It does not reflect my experience. At all.

  75. 75.

    EmbraceYourInnerCrone

    @Soprano2: I am always astounded that Repubs think mentioning reality is politicizing a situation.  Storms will happen, sea levels will rise.  If your house us in the storms more likely path, it may get damaged (repeatedly, possibly).  Eventually insurance companies might stop insuring the more risky locations (or charge more than most people can pay for a policy).  Desantis can scream all he wants to, Mother Nature bats last…

  76. 76.

    NotMax

    As several small projects involving application of super glue had accumulated, first headed to a local drug emporium to buy a small bottle of nail polish remover (had some in the past, but it’s apparently cozily cohabiting someplace with Mr. Cole’s mustard). Imagine my surprise when the cashier asked me to hand over my driver’s license to be entered into whatever the system is – not merely cursorily looked at, actually physically scanned – in order to purchase it.

  77. 77.

    Gary K

    OMG my wife & I saw that Coriolanus production when we lived in Manhattan, and were impressed by Morgan Freeman (whom we had never heard of before). We just learned this minute that Denzel Washington was in it as well. What I clearly remember is that we sat in row 2, and the people in front of us felt seriously menaced by the swordplay that was nearly in their laps.

  79. 79.

    TaMara

    Hmmmm….I may have found my third career. These women are angels. I’d love to talk with them about how they operate. CO is such a pet state, I bet a lot of folks would be on board to do this.

  80. 80.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @raven:

    She sounds like such a sweetheart! I’ll bet she looks forward to those morning romps off-leash.

    How is your bride’s foot coming along? Pretty well healed by now (I can’t remember how long ago the unfortunate incident happened) or still slow-going?

  83. 83.

    Betty Cracker

    @Brachiator: I used Uber Eats when looking after a hospitalized friend’s kids in Miami a while back. We looked to see if restaurants offered their own delivery service, and if so, we used that. If not, UE. From what I understand, UE does take more of a cut than restaurants think is fair, but I figured those that list on the platform must think it’s worth it.

    Hope you heal up quickly!

  84. 84.

    NotMax

    @Brachiator

    Prime members also eligible for free or low cost (can’t rightly remember which) delivery from Whole Foods. With careful selection, can total the same or not much more than the regular supermarket.

  85. 85.

    schrodingers_cat

    @Baud: There is plenty of bigotry in our ranks too as Hillary’s 2016 election showed. Its just not in the face obnoxious like the Republican kind

    Which I sometimes feel is better because you know to stay away from it. Its the two faced show some so called liberals put on that I am more wary of.

  88. 88.

    kindness

    Too many good things to comment on.  Love Morgan & Denzel.  Awesome about the Sr dog helpers.  I’m actually fine with DeSantis rebuilding the washed out bridge quickly.  If DeSantis really wanted to help those people he’d figure out a way to get them property insurance they could afford.  In Florida, from what I hear, that is getting harder and harder to do.  After what we’ve seen already this hurricane season claims will be through the roof and rates will go up similarly.  When that happens, DeSantis will no doubt blame Democrats.  I feel for my Florida peeps.

  93. 93.

    frosty

    @lowtechcyclist: ​
      It’s been raining like that in South PA too. I told Ms F last night that if I had to put up with it a couple more days I’d be getting on a plane to Arizona. I feel like moss is growing on me overnight.

  94. 94.

    The Moar You Know

    What I don’t get is that, sadly, there does not seem to be a shortage of conservative women out there.

    @Baud: In my single days, I was a magnet for ’em.  I don’t know why, I have always been pretty damn liberal by anyone’s standards.  But those women just didn’t seem to like the men of their own tribe!

    I guess they never consider that they repel all the women.

    @Soprano2:  That’s the fundamental issue right there; they repel ALL the women.  Women, regardless of political orientation, tend to find men who only give a shit about themselves poor prospects for any sort of relationship.

  95. 95.

    prostratedragon

    @NotMax:  Definitely not free. However the prices of the goods themselves tend to be reasonable and occasionally even a bargain.

    I do UberEats for my favorite Friday F&C and sometimes otherwise,  but use the restaurant’s own service if they have one. Have heard the same about the fees, and notice some switching among services.

  96. 96.

    The Moar You Know

    I was remarking yesterday how the conservative/blue-collar dude internet keeps asserting that they are fitter/stronger than white-collar dudes because they do physical labor (as opposed to sitting at a desk all day) and are thus more attractive. (Seriously, I have seen a lot of this type of comment.) It does not reflect my experience. At all.

    @Suzanne: What women want, in my experience, is a guy who has a decent job and – the most important part – prospects of making more, moving up.  The typical “blue-collar/self-employed contractor” guy who prides himself on his musculature, Oakleys, $70,000 truck and lack of schoolin’ is never going to be that guy, and any woman who has prospects of anything better goes and finds better.

  98. 98.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Suzanne:

    Many of those women don’t want to fuck until they’re married or in a committed relationship.

    Well, they want to, they just believe they’re not supposed to.  (Wonder how many of them use oral or anal as a loophole, so to speak.)

    But at any rate, if the conservative men want a conservative woman, and they’re not willing to deal with what she believes God doesn’t want her to do yet, once again, that’s their problem.

    My WAG is that what they really want is to miraculously convert to conservatism a liberal woman who already thinks sex is great, and thereby have the best of both worlds. Lotsa luck with that, dudes.

    Any which way you put it, this is the situation they made for themselves, and there’s exactly zero reason to feel sorry for them.  Which makes their whining about it even that much more pathetic and, dare we say it, unmanly.

     

    ETA: I see Baud beat me to the ‘loophole’ reference by about 40 comments.  Hey, I’m trying to work! (Not succeeding very well, though.)

  99. 99.

    Suzanne

    @The Moar You Know:

    What women want, in my experience, is a guy who has a decent job and – the most important part – prospects of making more, moving up.  The typical “blue-collar/self-employed contractor” guy who prides himself on his musculature, Oakleys, $70,000 truck and lack of schoolin’ is never going to be that guy, and any woman who has prospects of anything better goes and finds better.

     

    Agreed. For me, it’s always been about looking for men who are capable of self-sufficiency, which is rarer than one might think. I know the trope is that women are desperate for a man, but that has not been my experience, at all. My experience is that there are tons of men who are absolutely desperate for a woman — any woman — not just because they are otherwise lonely and not getting laid, but also because they otherwise don’t eat well, don’t keep house well, don’t dress well, don’t keep in good health, etc etc etc.

    I also want to point out that “plumber’s butt” is a trope for a reason. I have not observed blue-collar men to be more physically attractive than white-collar men in any of the typical-body-standards measures.

  100. 100.

    Betty Cracker

    @The Moar You Know: Maybe I’m an atypical woman, but I was looking for love, laughs, friendship, empathy, shared values and interests. I guess I married “down” in the sense that I’m a college graduate and have always earned more than my not particularly ambitious blue-collar husband, but I wouldn’t trade him for 100K venture capitalists with MBAs and fat bank accounts.

  101. 101.

    Suzanne

    @lowtechcyclist:

    My WAG is that what they really want is to miraculously convert to conservatism a liberal woman who already thinks sex is great, and thereby have the best of both worlds. Lotsa luck with that, dudes. 

    Absolutely.
    I dated an airman for a while in my mid-20s. He told me that a lot of his colleagues were conservative, and he also said that they were always complaining about their wives, who they so kindly referred to as “dependents”. Like, if you want the woman who isn’t dependent on you, you get a woman who won’t put up with being told what to do. That’s a circle that seems to be difficult to square. I think that’s a hard thing culturally for men. SuzMom dated for many years (never remarried after she divorced BioDad but had some LTRs) and she mentioned that as a constant tension for dudes of her generation….. wanting women who were simultaneously capable of caring for themselves (and adhered to conventional standards of attractiveness) but then were willing to accept a traditional role and a potentially-less-attractive husband. The sitcom trope of the chubby dude with the hot wife is a real dude fantasy.

  102. 102.

    lowtechcyclist

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Nationally didn’t more white women voted for the Orange Error in 2020 than in 2016.

    Percentages or raw numbers?

    If raw numbers, well sure they did.  21.4M more people voted for President in 2020 than in 2026, and 8.4M of the increase went to Trump.  It would be surprising if white men and minorities represented all of that increase.

  104. 104.

    Brachiator

    @Betty Cracker:

    @NotMax:

    @prostratedragon:

    I do UberEats for my favorite Friday F&C and sometimes otherwise,  but use the restaurant’s own service if they have one. Have heard the same about the fees, and notice some switching among services.

    Thanks for the feedback. I signed up for GrubHub because it doesn’t cost anything to do so and to check out how it works.

    They appear to build in the menu for most of the restaurants they deal with. This makes ordering meals a simpler experience than going to the sites of different restaurants, which are all set up differently.

    But it gives me something to work from. And hopefully some good alternatives.

  105. 105.

    The Moar You Know

    Maybe I’m an atypical woman, but I was looking for love, laughs, friendship, empathy, shared values and interests. I guess I married “down” in the sense that I’m a college graduate and have always earned more than my not particularly ambitious blue-collar husband, but I wouldn’t trade him for 100K venture capitalists with MBAs and fat bank accounts.

    @Betty Cracker: yeah, you’re atypical (my sister did the same thing, so in my experience not THAT atypical) but bless you, you found happiness, and that’s something a lot of folks never do find so good on you and your hubby.

    Took me until my mid-40s, but by God I found a keeper, and thankfully I was smart enough to not get hitched up to one of those conservative women who just thought I was the best thing ever, if I would just change a few little things….

  110. 110.

    Ruckus

    I live in a senior’s apartment complex and a good number of the residents have dogs. I get to pet a lot of dogs every day and most of the regulars seem to know me so it’s like I have a half dozen or more dogs, with none of the feeding, cleaning up after, telling them to shut up when they bark at thin air, and all of the fun and friendship a dog can give. I’ve had dogs I had to do all those chores for in my life and it is a very, very good way to continue to appreciate life, which is part of what one needs to keep living, and friends and pets help with that immensely.

  112. 112.

    Ruckus

    @Suzanne:

    “Why is this difficult to grok?”

    Some people think the world revolves around the stick they have stuck up their butt. There are millions of things in the world that are difficult to grok if you think the center of the universe revolves around your personal stuck stick. Interacting with other humans is high on that list.

  113. 113.

    Miss Bianca

    @rikyrah: OK, I don’t know if I can even make it to the Twitter thread because the “reasoning” behind this lawsuit just broke something a little in my brain.

  114. 114.

    Ruckus

    @Baud:

    How boring would the world be if everyone was nice and respected everyone else? I mean we have that emotion called hate for a reason, shouldn’t we be using it?

  115. 115.

    Miss Bianca

    @TaMara: As I am facing the loss of my own Roxy, and wrestling with the idea that the next puppy I get will also be my last, because they’re that likely to outlive me, I love this idea.

    (Also, more Lap of Love technician/therapists for home euthanasia. Someone mentioned them on a thread where I talked about Roxy, and the closest one I could find was in Colorado Springs.)

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    lowtechcyclist

    @schrodingers_cat: Thanks for the link.

    It wasn’t a big increase, but it was real.  Wonder where it came from – just like people keep pointing out about the Hispanic vote, the nonhispanic white vote isn’t exactly monolithic either.

    My WAG is that a lot of religiously conservative women weren’t really sure about Trump in 2016, especially not after the “grab ’em by the p***y” tape.  But they would have been all in by 2020, just as a matter of tribal identity.

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    Geminid

    @lowtechcyclist: I attribute a lot of trump votes to the success of the  conservative noise machine’s effort to make voters believe that the Democratic party is dominated by radicals. That’s bullshit, but its why the few Republicans I know voted for Trump even though they did not like him, or respect him very much.

    This is the dynamic of “negative partisanship,” and at this point it’s maybe the most effective argument they have.

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