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Dust off the Cobwebs: Jan 6 Hearing Is This Thursday at 1 pm Eastern

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The House Select Jan 6 Committee Public Hearing #9 is currently scheduled for this Thursday, 10/13 at 1 pm.

Every person on the committee will have an active role in this hearing, so the feel will be different than previous hearings.  The members will be presenting new information in this hearing, as well as (surely) summering the previous 8 hearings.

Will we learn more about the hit list found in one of the searches, with names of some of the witnesses in the fourth hearings?  Please please please let them talk about the wife of a Supreme Court justice.  I will outsource my thoughts on that to Seth Meyers; if you haven’t seen it, you’ll want to watch it.

We may see some smaller reports before the November elections, but the committee must shut down within a month of issuing their final report.  The timing of the final report will surely be impacted by the results in November.

Dust off the Cobwebs: Jan 6 Hearing Is This Thursday at 1 pm Eastern
Vice Chair Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., speaks as the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol holds a hearing at the Capitol in Washington, Tuesday, July 12, 2022. Chairman Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., left, and Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., listen. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

Videos of all 8 Previous Jan 6 Public Hearings   link

What Happened in Previous Hearings   link

The committee held its first public hearing June 9, and the prime-time broadcast gave the panel of seven Democrats and two Republicans its first opportunity to present evidence of its wide-ranging probe into the insurrection – the worst attack on the Capitol since the Civil War – directly to the American people.

The first hearing featured both video and in-person testimony from U.S. Capitol Police Officer Caroline Edwards and Nick Quested, a British documentary filmmaker who was embedded with the far-right group the Proud Boys on Jan. 6 and the night before.

Edwards, who was one of the first law enforcement officers injured that day, described falling behind a line of Metropolitan Police Department officers, when she first saw the scale of the chaos unfolding around her.

“I can just remember my breath catching in my throat because what I saw was just a war scene. It was something like I’d seen out of the movies. I couldn’t believe my eyes,” she said. “There were officers on the ground. You know, they were bleeding. They were throwing up. … I saw friends with blood all over their faces. I was slipping in people’s blood.”

Subsequent hearings, while perhaps not offering the same gut-wrenching detail as the testimony provided by Edwards, have sought to better tie Trump’s actions – and failure to act – to the violence seen at the Capitol on Jan. 6.

The second public hearing, held June 13, focused on Trump’s claims of voter fraud following the 2020 presidential election.

Despite his inner circle testifying that they pushed back against his false claims of a stolen election, Trump continued to promote the so-called “big lie,” which the panel has sought to connect to the mob of his supporters that stormed the U.S. Capitol in order to overturn the results of the election.

“President Trump rejected the advice of his campaign experts on election night, and instead followed the course recommended by an apparently inebriated Rudy Giuliani to just claim he won and insist the vote-counting stop, to falsely claim everything was fraudulent,” Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., the panel’s vice chair, said at the hearing.

In its third public hearing, the House Select Committee focused on efforts to pressure then-Vice President Mike Pence to overturn the 2020 election.

The panel made its case that then-President Donald Trump knew that the effort to get Pence to reject the results of the election was unlawful, but he went through with it anyway – and when Pence refused, the president whipped up his supporters into a frenzy, putting the vice president in danger.

“Mike Pence said no,” Thompson said. “He resisted the pressure. He knew it was illegal. He knew it was wrong. We were fortunate for Mr. Pence’s courage. On Jan. 6, our democracy came dangerously close to catastrophe.”

Its fourth public hearing centered on Trump’s efforts to pressure state officials to overturn the 2020 election, either by pressuring election officials in battleground states to reject ballots or submit slates of fake electors to Congress.

Rusty Bowers, speaker of the Arizona state House of Representatives, said he was asked multiple times by Trump and his allies to engage in efforts to overturn the election results in his state but resisted.

Wandrea ArShaye “Shaye” Moss, a former Georgia elections worker targeted by Trump and his allies in the wake of the election, recalled the ways in which Trump’s lies still impact her day-to-day life.

Moss had worked elections in Georgia for over a decade alongside her mother, Ruby Freeman, and told the committee she was taught by her grandmother “how important it is to vote and how people before me – a lot of people, older people, my family did not have that.”

In the weeks after the election, Giuliani, Trump’s personal attorney, shared a video of Moss and Freeman counting ballots on One America News Network, falsely alleging they tampered with the ballots. Giuliani and other allies mentioned both Moss and Freeman by name.

The fifth public hearing focused on former Justice Department officials who faced down a relentless pressure campaign from Trump over the election results while suppressing a bizarre challenge from within their own ranks.

Witnesses included Jeffrey Rosen, who was acting attorney general on Jan. 6, 2021. Three days earlier, Rosen was part of a tense Oval Office showdown in which Trump contemplated replacing him with a lower-level official, Jeffrey Clark, who wanted to champion Trump’s bogus election fraud claims.

The sixth public hearing heard explosive testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson, who worked as a special assistant and aide to Trump’s chief of staff, Mark Meadows.

Hutchinson testified that both Trump and Meadows were warned on the morning of Jan. 6 that supporters gathered on the National Mall brought weapons with them, yet they failed to take action to stop the ensuing violence. She also revealed that Meadows and Giuliani sought pardons from the former president before he left office.

The seventh public hearing highlighted the way violent far-right extremists answered Trump’s “siren call” to come to Washington for a big rally on Jan. 6, particularly in how the former president utilized social media to address his supporters.

A former Twitter employee – whose identity was kept anonymous by the House committee – testified feeling growing dread that Trump was using the social media platform to galvanize dangerous extremists.

“​​My concern was that the former president, for seemingly the first time, was speaking directly to extremist organizations in giving them directives,” the employee said, referring specifically to Trump’s comments at a September 2020 presidential debate where he told the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by.”

The eighth public hearing focused on the president’s time inside the White House as the mob raided the U.S. Capitol — where he was, what he was doing and his decision not to stop the violent mob and answer pleas from members of Congress.

Open thread.

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  2. 2.

    Scout211

    I have watched every televised hearing so far and have really enjoyed the live blogging commentary here.  Unfortunately, we have a doctor’s appointment for Mr. Scout at the same time as this last hearing.  I have my DVR set to record the hearing at C-Span and I am counting on jackals here to add expert commentary and snark to the live blogging that I will read later in the day.

    I’m counting on you, jackals.  😊

  4. 4.

    Another Scott

    NPR.org (from 9/29):

    Ginni Thomas, a longtime GOP activist who is also the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, testified for several hours on Thursday behind closed doors before the House Select Jan. 6 committee.

    Her lawyer later released a statement that she answered all the panel’s questions during her closed-door testimony. She left the session more than four hours after her appearance began, and declined to comment to reporters.

    Warning – Politico (from 9/29):

    Virginia Thomas, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, told the Jan. 6 panel during lengthy testimony Thursday that she still believes false claims that the 2020 election was stolen from former President Donald Trump, according to the panel’s chair.

    “The information was typical of a lot of information we received from other people who were involved in this effort around Jan. 6. A lot of: ‘Well, I believed something was wrong,’” select committee chair Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), told reporters Thursday of Thomas’ testimony. “She was one of those people we wanted to talk to and, ultimately, we eventually got there.”

    Thompson also told reporters Thomas had answered “some questions” Thursday during her interview.

    It’ll be interesting to see how the Thursday hearing goes.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  5. 5.

    schrodingers_cat

    @Skepticat: We can bear witness and battle against the apathy, convince people sitting on the sidelines as best as we can. At least that’s what I try to d

    I also did the exact opposite of what the BJP MP I patronized Muslim owned businesses, not out of the goodness of my heart but because I love chikankari embroidery and I like the cuisine. Muslims are as much a part of India as any Hindu. Shame on BJP for creating this atmosphere of hate and the folks who know better and still vote for them.

  7. 7.

    Scout211

    Speaking of J6, this new report  sure paints Kevin McCarthy in a dishonest light. Yeah, what else is new.

    CNN — 
    During a private meeting last summer, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy told two police officers who defended the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, and the mother of a third who died after the riot, that former President Donald Trump had no idea his supporters were carrying out the attack, according to newly obtained audio of the conversation.

    Testimony to the House Select Committee on January 6 revealed that Trump watched television for hours as the rioters engaged in a brutal fight with law enforcement.

    But McCarthy maintained Trump was unaware of the violence inside the Capitol when he spoke with Trump by phone that afternoon. He also appeared to take credit for getting the then-President to make a late-afternoon public statement urging his supporters to “go home,” according to one of the meetings’ attendees, then-DC Metropolitan police officer Michael Fanone.

    “I’m just telling you from my phone call, I don’t know that he did know that,” McCarthy said during the June 2021 meeting about Trump’s knowledge of the fighting, according to audio secretly recorded by Fanone at the time and detailed in his new book titled, “Hold the Line: The Insurrection and One Cop’s Battle for America’s Soul.”

  8. 8.

    brantl

    Punching down is currently very much in vogue, with the bullies who couldn’t find a gang to belong to, when they were in high school. All of these assholes are the people that no one has taken seriously, probably even their spouses, if the spouses are unlucky enough to be married to these hosers/dosers.

    And McCarthy is just as dumb as we thought he was, maybe dumber.

  9. 9.

    UncleEbeneezer

    Please, anything to get away from the insufferable screams of “OMG, why isn’t DOJ indicting NOW?!!1!” panic that I am seeing all over Twitter.

  10. 10.

    Fair Economist

    Speaking of Kevin McCarthy, it’s astonishing the media is paying so little attention to his plan to criminalize abortion and raise prescription drug prices.

    Well, maybe not so astonishing for those of us who have been paying attention to the media.

  11. 11.

    Raoul Paste

    Regarding Seth Meyers:  in this country you have to listen to comedians such as  Seth and John Oliver  to be well informed.
    Infuriating corruption

  12. 12.

    Dangerman

    Isn’t today when Clarence is supposed to rule on the latest appeal? I have to change the lyrics (on no coffee; dangerous):

    His Ginni lies over the motion

    His Ginni lies over the secrets

    His Ginni lies to the commitee

    So bring his Ginni to court in handcuffs

    Hmmm. Needs work. Maybe after the limited caffeine I’m allowed.

  16. 16.

    John S.

    Amazingly, our corporate media will simply yawn at the outcome. Don’t want to upset their precious horse race by tipping the scales in favor of Democrats.

    As a fun thought exercise, I wonder what kind of blaring headlines we’d be seeing if the shoe was on the other foot. Kinda like the coverage of BUT HER EMAILS!!!

  17. 17.

    schrodingers_cat

    @Baud: Most of these comedians are BS  bros and love dunking on the Ds. I don’t really thinking they are helping that much. Including the sainted Jon Stewart

    I find John Oliver rather tedious with his long winded explanations.

  18. 18.

    Scout211

    And debunking lie #infinity that TFG keeps trying to push: Link

    His claim is that it is all the GSA’s fault because they packed all the boxes.  But newly released emails disprove that lie,

     

    Harrison, one of the handful of aides interviewed by federal investigators in the spring as they sought information on presidential records, returned a letter on “The Office of Donald J. Trump” letterhead stating what was in the boxes.

    The email exchange between GSA officials and Harrison is one of more than 100 pages of emails and documents newly released by the GSA that debunk claims from Trump and his allies that the government agency is to blame for packing the boxes containing classified documents that were later recovered by the FBI during the search of his Mar-a-Lago resort in August.

    The newly released emails also provide new details underscoring the rushed, chaotic nature of Trump’s transition after he spent two months exhausting numerous avenues trying to overturn the 2020 election.

    The emails make clear that the boxes had already been packed and sat shrink-wrapped in an empty office space in Arlington, Virginia, as GSA officials planned logistics to ship the five pallets of boxes – including 30 banker boxes similar to those recovered by the FBI at Mar-a-Lago – to Florida.

  19. 19.

    germy shoemangler

    CHAIRMAN THOMPSON: is it true, Mrs Thomas, that you said in an email to Mr Tarrio that your husband Justice Thomas was, and I quote, “hypmotized” by your big pawg ass?

    GINNI THOMAS: That’s correct. He also believes white pussy fucks him up

    — debdrens (@debdrens) June 16, 2022

  20. 20.

    H.E.Wolf

    @Raoul Paste: I’m not much into video/TV, so instead I read the daily posts (Mon-Fri, with Q&A on Sat.) from https://electoral-vote.com/

    The 2 writers are a historian/college professor and a voting-access activist/computer scientist. Their sense of humor is frequently on view, but their general tone is straightforward, with political/historical context provided.

  21. 21.

    James E Powell

    @Scout211:

    We have reached a sad state of affairs where debunking Trump’s lies serves no purpose. The media will let him & his flacks say whatever they want unchallenged, his followers will believe whatever he says, and the rest of us already know he is lying.

    Two years from now, Maggie Haberman will publish another book revealing that everyone, including Ivanka & Jared, knew Trump was lying.

  23. 23.

    UncleEbeneezer

    @schrodingers_cat: Stewart’s current show about Transgender rights, on AppleTV, though, is supposedly really, really good.  I’m hearing that from a lot of Trans people I follow.

    When he’s right, Stewart is great.  Unfortunately he still always has the BothSides reflex and I always worry he’ll go back to it any moment.

  25. 25.

    Paul in KY

    @brantl: I think the ‘punching downers’ are the ones that if they tried to ‘punch up’ or ‘punch sideways’ in HS, would have got an ass whuppin.

  26. 26.

    Mai Naem mobile

    @schrodingers_cat: i think John Oliver does a really good job of explaining stuff to non policy wonks/non political junkies.

    Re- Modi. Modi and his BJP  were just lucky enough to lead India  when decades long  modernization/high tech stuff done related to the Indian economy really started to bear fruit so he gets the credit. The overall good economy then  let’s Modi get away with stuff that he may not have gotten away with otherwise.

  31. 31.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Paul in KY: I think in one of the follow up tweets they say the trumpers ran out after that incident, but somebody gave his name to the cops

  32. 32.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @UncleEbeneezer:

    When he’s right, Stewart is great.  Unfortunately he still always has the BothSides reflex and I always worry he’ll go back to it any moment.

    The way he choked on the Rally About Nothing still surprises me. Also, thinking back to a time when Glenn Beck could generate that much attention.

  35. 35.

    StringOnAStick

    @Paul in KY: It was a in club and she was doing standup, so I expect the only security was the typical bouncer at the door.  I guess we all are used to the prior standard that people would behave in a socially acceptable way in social situations, another thing lost to the Mango Moron error.

  36. 36.

    trollhattan

    Audio of Vlad’s temper tantrum, captured in this reporter’s video from a Kiev rooftop.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-63193124

    The distinct turbine engine whine ID’s the weapon as a cruise missile, even if it doesn’t appear in the frame. It also blow up very close to the building he’s standing on.

    Bastard spend a lot of rubles today on straight up terrorism against a civilian population. Stay with the classics, I guess.

  37. 37.

    schrodingers_cat

    @Mai Naem mobile: The Indian economy is not doing as well as it did under Mr. Singh. Modi and company completely mismanaged the COVID response.

    Modi is like the Indian doll for a certain segment of the population.

    (His playing dress-up makes them feel good about themselves)

  39. 39.

    schrodingers_cat

    @Mai Naem mobile: The Indian economy is not doing as well as it did under Mr. Singh. Modi and company completely mismanaged the COVID response.

    Modi is like the Indian doll (like the American doll franchise ) for a certain segment (upper caste Hindu and well-off) of the population.

    (His playing dress-up makes them feel good about themselves)

  41. 41.

    Scout211

    The Los Angeles city council president, who was caught on audio making racist comments, resigned. Good.

    ETA: She should have resigned from the city council, not just as president.  Check the link  to hear her comments.  

    CNN — 
    Los Angeles City Council member Nury Martinez has resigned as its president after making racist remarks about a fellow council member and his Black child.

    “I take responsibility for what I said and there are no excuses for those comments,” Martinez said in a statement. “I’m so sorry.”

    Martinez’ resignation as president is effective immediately, according to the statement, though she remains a member of the council..

  45. 45.

    Paul in KY

    @StringOnAStick: Guess so.  I see musical acts at club venues and usually there is a security guy or two down front. Haven’t been to a comedy show in many a year.

    Bob Hope in 1980, maybe…

  48. 48.

    Soprano2

    OT – my choir is performing on October 29th as part of the homecoming celebration. They’re doing an ending to the big fundraising project they’ve been promoting since October 2019. John Goodman is coming, and they’re bringing in pop singer Tori Kelly (who I had never heard of before this) to perform with the choir. We’re singing “Together” and “A Million Dreams”, and have to know our part by memory, so I’ve been listening to the recordings at lunch. Watching the video for “Together” really brings back the feeling we all had early in 2020 about the pandemic, both good and bad, and how maybe we were all in it together (narrator: Turns out we weren’t). It really hits home when, at the end of the video, they show all the performers pulling back their black curtains to reveal the inside of their houses, since the whole thing was filmed in their individual houses. Anyway, now that song is stuck in my head so I wanted to share. LOL

  54. 54.

    Soprano2

    @germy shoemangler: Yes, I will be singing alto. I’ll be one of about 250 people singing. I guess it’s going to be quite the production, our conductor says there’s a Hollywood producer in charge of the whole thing. I guess that’s what you get when you get John Goodman. He’s probably MSU’s most famous alum.

  57. 57.

    prostratedragon

    @Baud: ​ I remember Stewart addressing this fact, helplessly saying something like, “but I’m a clown!”

  59. 59.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @UncleEbeneezer: the Jon Stewart interview is excellent, he did his homework  he refuses to take BS squid ink lies, and methodically dismantles the anti-trans arguments.

    OTOH, he’s just calling out what trans activists have been screaming about for years — OTOH since cishet people haven’t been listening to us, it great see someone with his clout mainstreaming this.

  60. 60.

    Soprano2

    @Sister Golden Bear: It was impressive to me how he kept quietly asking her for facts and the source of what they did in Arkansas, and how she sputtered and couldn’t answer the question. She didn’t seem to know anything about the law they actually passed!

  61. 61.

    Salty Sam

    @schrodingers_cat: Muslims are as much a part of India as any Hindu. Shame on BJP for creating this atmosphere of hate and the folks who know better and still vote for them.

    Well said SC.

    Also, thank you for bringing this into the light- I would not have known if you’d kept silent.

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