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Nothing worth doing is easy.

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The jury in the Alex Jones trial just awarded $965 million to the families whose lives he made even more of a living hell.

Everyone knows this worthless, hateful piece of shit is going to try to weasel out of it, but nice to see anyway.

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  4. 4.

    Gravenstone

    @JPL: Was Jones crying?

    It’s certain he’ll be crying poverty, even as he furiously tries to shield his assets from forfeiture.

  6. 6.

    Scout211

    Good.

    But to actually pay, that is up to the bankruptcy court.  If you have been following that crazy story, here is the latest from Above the Law. Authored by Liz Dye. (Much more at the link)

    As Jury Deliberates In CT, Alex Jones And His Lawyers Are Setting Fire To Each Other In TX Bankruptcy Court

    For background, Jones tried every way he could to get out of facing the Sandy Hook plaintiffs in court. Along the way his persistent refusal to cooperate with discovery earned him default judgments in both Connecticut and Texas, at which point his company Free Speech Systems (FSS) suddenly “remembered” that it owed $55 million to its supplement supply company PQPR, which is wholly owned by Alex Jones and his parents. FSS then executed promissory notes, securitizing the “debts,” prioritizing PQPR as a “creditor,” and allowing FSS to start shoveling mountains of cash out the door and off its books.

    . . .

    The matter came to a head in six-hour hearing on September 20, in which Judge Lopez ordered the US Bankruptcy Trustee to investigate FSS’s books, particularly the PQPR notes. He also disqualified Lee and Schwartz, while saying that he hoped never to have to do anything like it again during his judicial tenure. Famous last words!

     

    On October 4, Schwartz and Lee, along with Lee’s partner, R.J. Shannon, filed companion motions for reconsideration with the goal of proving that they are not biased in favor of Jones or PQPR. And the way they intend to prove their disinterestedness is to burn Jones to the ground and air a bunch of attorney work product on the public docket.

  7. 7.

    leeleeFL

    I hope they take everything he has!  He is a despicable troll who needs to be crushed like the bug he is!  Glad to see the juries agree!

  11. 11.

    Mike in NC

    Jones should attend Trump’s next hate rally and beg the MAGAts for their pocket change. But he won’t get a dime from the Fat Orange Clown himself.

  13. 13.

    West of the Rockies

    The porcine slob should have just stuck with UFO’s and lizard people on Art Bell’s Dreamland radio show.

  15. 15.

    germy shoemangler

    But in a livestream that aired concurrently as the jury’s verdict was read out, Jones showed no remorse, instead mocking the panel and the Sandy Hook parents who wept as each plaintiff’s damages were read out.

    “Fifty-seven million, $20 million, $50 million, $80 million, $100 million, blah, blah,” Jones said, according to NBC News reporter Brandy Zadrozny. “You get a million, you get $100 million, you get a $50 million… Do these people actually think they’re getting any of this money?”

  18. 18.

    germy shoemangler

    @JPL:

    I’ve never watched his show.  Who are his advertisers?

    I remember reading he received a massive infusion of money from some mysterious billionaire.   I don’t know if their identity was ever revealed

  19. 19.

    Jeffro

    @germy shoemangler: at some point, somehow, somewhere, he’s going to need to be charged criminally and taken off the streets in cuffs.

    endangerment, incitement, assault, terrorism, I don’t really care what the charges are.  If he’s just going to do the trumpov/GOP infinite double-down, he needs to be made an example.

  23. 23.

    Shalimar

    It is impossible to keep him from hiding a lot of his money, but there has to at least be a way to take all his income from any propaganda outlet he continues to run.  Let’s see how he does with zero revenue to pay employees.

  24. 24.

    JPL

    @germy shoemangler: Same.   I have no idea but the money is coming from somewhere.

    i wonder if they can freeze his accounts and whether that would help.   It’s sick that he’s still allowed to spread lies.

  25. 25.

    Gravenstone

    @germy shoemangler: Seize and liquidate every single asset with his name associated with it. Leave him a pauper for the remainder of his existence. And most important, remove him from any and every online resource that allows him to continue to spew his venom.

  26. 26.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    @Alison Rose 💙🌻💛: Tucker Carlson can’t get what’s coming to him, because that would require violation of many US laws, several international treaties, and a few laws of physics. I’ll settle for wishing him worldwide repudiation and a life of pain and misery, followed by damnatio memoriae.

  28. 28.

    germy shoemangler

    @JPL:

    Jones was laughing.   The families were crying during the reading of the verdict.

    Maybe he’s crying on the inside.  Hope so…

  29. 29.

    germy shoemangler

    1/My ex, Alex Jones, was just found liable for $965 Million of Damages.

    He defamed the deceased Sandy Hook school children & made their parents' lives hell by using stolen property that he stole by directly making our kids' lives hell every day, by abuse, fraud & crimes. pic.twitter.com/deRIQM7Cbd

    — Kelly Jones (@RealKellyJones) October 12, 2022

  31. 31.

    Butch

    I’m not completely clear on the reason but apparently based on the type of judgment he can’t try to use bankruptcy as a shield from paying.

  34. 34.

    Ruckus

    @germy shoemangler:

    I don’t think he’s good enough to cry on the inside and laugh on the outside. He is fucking crazy enough to laugh at the world, even after it’s told him he’ll never have money ever again. Sure it’s possible that he goes to court and gets some of the awards lowered but by enough to get/stay solvent? So unless he’s got an underground couple billion that no one knows about or a many times multi billionaire “buddy” to pay off a nearly billion dollar fine, he’s fucked. He may not actually realize how fucked he is, but I hope he does, because he deserves every second he sweats this out. Till his dying day.

  35. 35.

    Betty Cracker

    Jones has gleefully tortured people who are already living life’s worst nightmare for years. I’m surprised none of his victims have decided they’ve got nothing left to lose, so they might as well shut that piece of shit down permanently. I would not blame them.

  37. 37.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @germy shoemangler: I’ve never watched his show. Who are his advertisers?

    Himself.  His media is really a platform to sell his weird ass crap like “Palobroth” and “tactical wipes” to his listeners.  Colbert did a whole show on it.

  38. 38.

    Old Man Shadow

    Get some forensic accountants on his ass and hunt down every shell corporation he’s created to hide his money.

  39. 39.

    itf

    I once met one of the plaintiffs in this case (and her husband, who has since killed himself.) It was at an event for families affected by mass shootings, and we were next to them in a security line. They talked to us for twenty minutes or so, including about their daughter.

    I’m thinking about her today, and crying, and thinking that even if she were to get every penny of the tens of millions she was just awarded, it’s not enough.

  40. 40.

    sdhays

    @Ruckus: Based on the shenanigans with the money getting paid from his company to that “contractor”, I expect he thinks he’s got savvy accounting ways of remaining rich.

    Based on the hamfisted, transparent way he tried to siphon that money out, he might be wrong about that. I hope so.

  41. 41.

    Ruckus

    @Baud:

    My limited reading of a couple of legal sites says that intentional tort liability can not be discharged in bankruptcy.

  42. 42.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @Ruckus: I gather Alex Jones started out as real thing back in the day until he discovered the money making potential in pandering to paranoids on the internet. So, yep, Jones likely think this is just the Man keeping him down for speaking truth with the judgement.

  43. 43.

    JaneE

    @Bruce K in ATH-GR: I wish him a death so slow and painful that he doesn’t realize when his life on earth ends and his eternity in Hell begins.

    And wishing does as much good as thoughts and prayers.

  44. 44.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @Betty Cracker: Yes, this, watching it all, Jones is never going to let up because he’s both an asshole whose clearing getting off on his victim’s pain and believes his own conspiracies theories. This is all going to end in him being murdered, or him in prison for murdering someone.

  45. 45.

    Ruckus

    @sdhays:

    I’d bet he’s got his fingerprints all over all the money he’s moved around and I’d also bet that will be the financial end to him. I’d be surprised if he found the end of his rope though, I’m not sure he feels in any way responsible of anything he’s done, even as he tries to hide everything. I just don’t think there is even one molecule of his brain that even resembles an actual conscience.

  46. 46.

    germy shoemangler

    @Ruckus:

    I saw this comment over at LGM:

    I think I read that these plaintiffs had hired a forensic accountant who had among other things discovered that he withdrew some $60+ million from his companies recently.

  47. 47.

    Jeffro

    @germy shoemangler: he and the rest of MAGAworld are going nuts trying to defend the indefensible here.

    They keep using ‘regime’, too, which both irritates the shit out of me and makes it easy to point out that they believe exactly NONE of the law applies to anyone allied with them and their sick causes.

    It won’t have as big an impact as Dobbs, but Dems, here’s yet another opening for you in the closing weeks of the election: “just LOOK at who these sick fucks are rallying around!!!”

    (ok, make it PG or PG-13, I get it, but still…)

  48. 48.

    cmorenc

    I foresee a move by Alex Jones to move his assets (if he hasn’t already) to the Cayman Islands , the banking/financial refuge of scoundrels worldwide.

  49. 49.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Shalimar: ​

    It is impossible to keep him from hiding a lot of his money

    I believe there might be one way. Assign a third party that answers to the bankruptcy court to take control of Infowars, for the specific purpose of rooting out where all Jones’ money is.

    Which the judge did.

    It is a completely legal but almost never used judgment that you have to be unbelievably obstructive to have handed down. Congrats, Jones. You really are fucked, even if you are too high on your own supply to realize it.

  50. 50.

    The Moar You Know

    Newly made Russian citizen Alex Jones will not have to pay one dime in damages.

    That’s where his money is

    Of course, he’ll get crossways with the Russians as well, because that’s all he knows how to do, and then will mysteriously try and fail to fly out of a window.

  52. 52.

    Ruckus

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

    I’d hate to be wrong (I’ve never been before – and if you believe that….) but I think he’s just an angry con man. His cons are so farcical that it takes someone who wants to be massively scammed because they are not even within ten thousand miles of the box they should be looking out of. If I’m right then he’s a chickenshit con man and in it solely for the money but not smart enough to actually come up with something, anything in any way positive. And he sure seems to be that.

  53. 53.

    trollhattan

    At times like this I’d prefer a Vlad-style fate for Jones, but we’re fresh out of failed and failing fenestration. Somebody brew him up a cuppa.

  54. 54.

    Elizabelle

    @The Moar You Know:  Does it make you feel all good and sparkly inside to say that?  Jesus, you’re an asshat.

    ETA:  you added to it, but enough.  Why does it kill some of you asshats that there just might be consequences for some terrible behavior, and that some bad actors might not escape the consequences?

    With an outcome like this, that’s exactly what I want to tell those hard-working prosecutors and those suffering families. That it won’t make a goddamn bit of difference. Now. Back into the pie filter.

  55. 55.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @itf:

    Couldn’t possibly be enough, not any amount. But then, it’s not about making the families wealthy.

  56. 56.

    hueyplong

    @Frankensteinbeck: Yes, it seems like the bankruptcy court is even more important than before, and it’s already employing the most extreme measures available.  If nothing else, the fecal pile is going to be spending all his time bitterly clinging to his assets.  He’ll become a nearly perfect incarnation of hate itself, which probably means he’ll continue to have a following in RW circles, but we can’t have everything.

  57. 57.

    lollipopguild

    @Ruckus: He made a decision that he could tell a whopping lie and that people would believe it and he would be able to make millions off of his lies and he was correct.  He has no excuse or defense but he like tfg will keep twisting and turning in order to minimize the damage.

  58. 58.

    Ruckus

    @The Moar You Know:

    Do they have 100 story buildings in Russia?

    Because if anyone should fall out of a building, it’s needs to be one that tall enough for them to fall out of and have time to think about the landing on their way there. And yes most people that have fallen out of buildings shouldn’t have. He’s not most people.

  60. 60.

    Elizabelle

    I am thinking that between Alex Jones, and the Trump industrial complex, and all the horrible plutocrats infesting political giving and Russian money/foreign laundering, perhaps we are developing a world-class set of forensic accountants and fraud and hidden assets investigators.  Hope so!

  61. 61.

    Steeplejack

    Jones fundraising while the hearing is live. (Video)

    Watching the Sandy Hook verdict live from his studio, Alex Jones makes an urgent plea to his audience for cash, and tells them that none of the money they send him will go the the families because he has filed for bankruptcy.
    pic.twitter.com/H658p5Sjiw

    — Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 (@RonFilipkowski) October 12, 2022

  62. 62.

    Ruckus

    @rikyrah:

    I’d rather pay a lot more for gas (and I just paid $5.89/gal – cash, cheapest place for miles, station next door is $6.29 cash) here in sunny SoCal than vote for any republican. ANY republican. Ever.

  64. 64.

    Layer8Problem

    @JaneE: “I wish him a death so slow and painful that he doesn’t realize when his life on earth ends and his eternity in Hell begins.”

    That’s downright epic, that is.

  65. 65.

    Ruckus

    @lollipopguild:

    Oh I don’t disagree with you. He will be the shit he is till his dying day. I’ve never seen anyone as far gone as he is coming back into humanity.

    But lying is what con men do, that’s why whatever it is, is a con, they are lying about whatever and doing it well enough that people literally will buy it. He happens to be telling/selling a completely shitty whopper of a lie(s), which makes him a completely shitty con man.

  66. 66.

    hueyplong

    @Layer8Problem: Well, you could tweak it so that he cares very much about that dividing line he can’t discern.  Just saying that there’s always room for one more thing.

  67. 67.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Steeplejack:

    I think Jones is reacting to bad news in what is usually a healthy way:  By doing something he enjoys, which wards off despair and lets him see the bright side of the situation.

    It’s just that what Jones enjoys is completely deranged and self-destructive.  If he hadn’t kept pulling this shit in response to the law suits, he would be getting a slap on the wrist now.

  71. 71.

    UncleEbeneezer

    @Betty Cracker: This is what I often wonder even about people like Desantis and Abbott: how has nobody said “fuck it” and just punched them in the face?

    Note: I’m not advocating/cheering political violence.  But given how violent Americans tend to be, it’s surprising nobody has given them the Rand Paul’s Neighbor treatment yet.

  72. 72.

    Subsole

     

     

    @rikyrah: Mhm. The sweet smell of desperation…

     

    @Ruckus: That ‘blah blah blah’ stunt? That’s an angry teenager throwing lip because he got put in his place.

    These folks never left highschool. That’s the only…not logical, let’s call it sensible, perhaps…explanation for their behavior.

    A bunch of shrieking, pinch-faced toddlers who just cannot believe that real life actually applies to them as well.

  73. 73.

    Citizen Alan

    @UncleEbeneezer:

    I’m one of those people who thinks that Jeb Bush would be halfway through his second term right now if he’d just hauled off and punched Shitgibbon in the mouth hard enough to knock him down.

  74. 74.

    Urza

    @Ruckus: Lakhta building is the tallest at 87 stories.  You’d think someone would have had the ego to build one of the worlds tallest buildings there, but maybe they were afraid of being defenestrated.

  75. 75.

    trollhattan

    @Ruckus: True.

    But jeez, WTF are we doing paying this much? Yesterday at Costco I was just below six bucks. Lucky for me my Eff-two fiddy is backordered. Dual tanks, you know.

  76. 76.

    Martin

    The good news is they should collect enough to keep a lawyer permanently employed chasing Jones to the end of the earth for every dollar he hid away and garnishing every dollar he earns in the future.

  77. 77.

    trollhattan

    @Urza: I’m thinking it takes fewer stories than that to hit terminal velocity.

    OTOH more height means more time for Alex to ponder the errors of his ways on the way to the esplanade.

  80. 80.

    trollhattan

    @Steeplejack: The Saudis and Chevron are trying to turn California red.

    I am in internet genius.

    Truly do not know but this is getting old, as I’m commuting again after 2.5 years of WFH.

  81. 81.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Steeplejack: Gas prices on the West Coast are always higher and they just shot back up to the maximum they were at in June. Here on the East Coast it’s only a tiny blip up.

  83. 83.

    Steeplejack

    @Matt McIrvin:

    Just checked my car spreadsheet to make sure I wasn’t misremembering. Yeah, $3.50 earlier this week, and in early September it was $3.65.

  85. 85.

    JPL

    @SiubhanDuinne: Gas buddy showed stations near me at 3:24.   It’s been that for a while.

     

    btw now Herschel is a Cherokee

    HERSCHEL WALKER: “My mom just told me that my grandmother was full-blood Cherokee. So I’m Native American! … I’m a super mutt.” As first reported by
    @jbendery
    , Walker’s mom said she was “kin to Cherokee,” also saying: “I don’t know too much about how she was connected.”

  86. 86.

    Geminid

    This Utah Senate race is getting interesting. From today’s Salt Lake City Tribune:

         Is Utah’s getting too close for Mike Lee? The latest sign Lee is feeling the heat came during Tucker Carlson’s Fox TV program, when he begged Mitt Romney to get behind his campaign to defeat independent Evan McMullin.

    “Plese get on board. Help me win reelection.”

    Romney has so far refused to endorse either candidate in the race. The former GOP presidential candidate says he considers both Lee and McMullin friends, which is why he is staying out of the contest.

    But with friends like these…

    On Wednesday former president Donald Trump jumped to Lee’s aid, saying Romney had “abused” Lee by not coming to his aid.

    McMullin is making a race of it because Utah Democrats, at their April 23 convention, voted 782 to 594 to endorse McMullin and not field a candidate of their own.

  87. 87.

    Ruckus

    @Subsole:

    I was a very small kid in HS freshman year. In the shitty school I got sent to (private all boys parochial school – and I’m not catholic) I was picked in the first full school assembly, 2 weeks after first day, to go up on stage as the smallest kid in my class. Which I was. But I told the class to fuck off, maybe not using that word, but a pretty determined fuck off was issued. They sent another kid and sure enough they made fun of the guys on stage for their height. Or lack thereof. My point is that while I’m now average height and size, I’ve seen assholes and their bullshit up close and personal. Jones is a fucking asshole and takes advantage of anyone he can get to listen to him. I pissed off a number of people when I refused to be treated like shit, and yes people like Jones and his ilk treat everyone like shit. Hell the entire rethuglican party treats people like shit, no matter what the reason or even lack thereof. All of us are there for the plucking, unless you refuse to be plucked. I’ve been there, it feels better to tell them to fuck off rather than be plucked. It is better to tell them to fuck off rather than be plucked.

  88. 88.

    Ruckus

    @trollhattan:

    Wait till you retire and have SS as your income.

    I used to have a Costco card. The money I paid every year for it was just about the same exact amount I saved on buying gas at Costco.

  92. 92.

    Ruckus

    @trollhattan:

    Yes they are. I think it’s because most of the state is actually reasonably far left and only the least dense, poorest counties are even close to red. Even Orange County voted overwhelmingly for Joe Biden. Least dense, poor counties. Isn’t that the same in most places in the US? Most of the rethuglican voting counties are the poorest, least dense counties in pretty much most states. Yes that’s a lot of people but is it enough?

  93. 93.

    EmanG

    To quote the blogmeister, jesus tapdancing christ. This is news that will help my dinner digest most delightfully.

  94. 94.

    satby

    @JaneE: I wish him a death so slow and painful that he doesn’t realize when his life on earth ends and his eternity in Hell begins.

    Added to my stock of Irish insults, even if it’s not. Because that is one fine damnation.

  104. 104.

    Burnspbesq

    @Butch:

    Bankruptcy Code section 523(a)6) makes damages for “willful and malicious injury” nodischargeable. Haven’t looked at the Second or Fifth Circuit case law, but on its face that’s broad enough to include intentional torts, and defamation seems to fit nicely.

  105. 105.

    Burnspbesq

    @hueyplong:

    Jones’ attorneys are on the BK judge’s last nerve. A criminal referral is not out of the question—and then the crime-fraud exception to attorney-client privilege is in play.

    🍿🍿🍿

  106. 106.

    J R in WV

    And Jones was not only deliberate in his actions, he’s still doing it RIGHT NOW In public !!!

    He obviously believes the law doesn’t apply to him at all. Will be learning different soon, thankfully. What a bleeding ulcer this guy is…

  108. 108.

    Kosh III

    My wish for him all the other slimeballs is a quote from an episode of Babylon5: “you will know fear, and you will know pain and then you will die. “

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