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… to provide whatever portion of kharma Alex Jones is liable to suffer in this life for his crimes against the Sandy Hook families. Not that the hard-working legal professionals would be less than vigilant in their efforts to seek redress for their clients, but a guild is a guild. And one cannot help but assume the legal guild that wrote the bankruptcy laws would, however unconsciously, take particular care to ensure that their own membership would be able to efficiently pursue judgements even unto death, and beyond.

It is some minuscule measure of consolation that Jones will spend the rest of his godsforsaken life looking at process servers sitting on his doorstep, never be able to go out in public without the fear that a deputized busybody will look over his shoulder and criticize his spending choices, or appear on social media without a swarm of sanctioned overseers making themselves known in the replies… a pale shadow of the horrors he unleashed on those families. Attention, and the vast sums of money that performing for attention have brought him, seem to be the only joy Jones knows; guaranteeing that his future will be poisoned is not enough, but it’s something.



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  1. 1.

    Dan B

    I read that Steve Bannon is going to be sentenced Friday for – Contempt of Congress? – for failure to appear at the Jan. 6 Committee.

    Hope it’s true!

  2. 2.

    Kent

    I expect most of the attorneys involved in this case are working on contingency basis.   Which means the more they recover from Alex Jones, the more they will personally earn.

    With close to 1 billion at stake, they will follow him to the ends of the earth and deconstruct every single corporate shell he might have built to try and hide assets.  It will be relentless.

  5. 5.

    different-church-lady

    “Do these people actually think they’re getting any of this money?”

    It’s almost as if he wants to get sued again.

    Just a reminder that a bunch of people legitimized Alex Jones even long after he lied about dead children at Sandy Hook.

    That would be a basket of what again?​

  6. 6.

    RepubAnon

    Hopefully, the bankruptcy court will find out Alex Jones is hiding assets from the bankruptcy estate.  That opens a whole new pit of problems – which he so richly deserves.

  10. 10.

    Suzanne

    I wish him nothing but a long life, filled with suffering and abject misery and humiliation. And popcorn for me and everyone here.

  11. 11.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @RepubAnon: ​

    Hopefully, the bankruptcy court will find out Alex Jones is hiding assets from the bankruptcy estate.

    The bankruptcy court installed their own third party to manage Infowars to find out where he was hiding his money. It’s an impressive testament both to how hard he has been working to deceive the court, and how completely fucked his attempts to hide his money are now. He is not escaping these fines.

  13. 13.

    Viva BrisVegas

    @Kent:

    With close to 1 billion at stake, they will follow him to the ends of the earth and deconstruct every single corporate shell he might have built to try and hide assets. It will be relentless.

    You have greater faith in the system than I have. The global financial system has been designed by various governments to hide financial assets from prying eyes, especially those of governments.

    If Jones has advisors worth a pinch of salt, the bulk of his wealth is already locked away in a Russian Bank, or even better somewhere in Idaho.

    All he has to do is wait until the heat dies down, move to a friendly jurisdiction and continue his on-line lifestyle from some sunny resort.

  14. 14.

    SpaceUnit

    We need to bring back tar and feathers for this shitbird.  And with our current SCOTUS it might be possible.

  16. 16.

    Geminid

    @Kent: I wonder how the Corporate Transparency Act will affect collection efforts. It was passed in the 2020 “lame duck” session, and the FinCen(?) agency within the Treasury Department just published the enforcement rules. I believe they will take effect January 1, 2023.

    Basically, the CTA requires corporations to disclose their “beneficial,” or true ownership to the Treasury Department. It was intended to be a means of attacking financial crimes hidden by shell corporations.

    The information is not a public record, but is supposed to be available to law enforcement and local, state, federal and tribal governments. I’m not sure attorneys representing private citizens can access it, but maybe a court enforcing a judgement will be able to.

    The CTA passed as part of the National Defense Appropriation Act.  Trump vetoed the NDAA, but Congress overrode the veto. The orange churl whined about some other portion of the bill, but the CTA will hit him where it hurts and that may be why he tried to stop it.

  19. 19.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @NickM:

    don’t they get more favorable treatment under the bankruptcy laws?

    I keep reading lawyers saying that he will pay every penny of these legal claims, period, that bankruptcy court will not help him get away from them.  IANAL, but it’s been a consistent message.

  20. 20.

    kalakal

    @SpaceUnit: At first thought coconuts would be my choice but then I realised I want him to live a very long, very miserable life, shunned & despised by all. So durian it is.

  24. 24.

    SpaceUnit

    Okay, looks like durian wins.  I’ve been fortunate enough to never have been exposed to that particular fruit.  I understand it smells like fermented ass.

  26. 26.

    Mai Naem mobile

    I know there’s FOX News but that’s for old folks. For younger people I consider Infowars to be the gateway drug to becoming full blown RWNJs. I’ve known some of these people. Alex Jones can’t go broke soon enough.

  28. 28.

    Tony G

    A serious question from a guy (me) who’s neither a lawyer nor a police officer: Until Jones pays what he owes — almost a billion dollars — would it be legal for the “appropriate law enforcement authorities” to just seize everything he owns except the clothes on his back?  And arrest his ass if he opposes that confiscation?  His home(s), his vehicle(s), this furniture and appliances?  Every goddamn thing?  Let him live in a homeless shelter and eat from soup kitchens and food banks.  Plenty of people in this country live that way.  Why not him?  Serious question.

  29. 29.

    Ken

    @kalakal: I want him to live a very long, very miserable life, shunned & despised by all.

    Well, that’s easy enough, according to a conversation between Linus Pauling and one of his students which has entered into the lore of chemistry:

    Linus Pauling: Now, Matt, hydrogen telluride smells as much worse than hydrogen selenide as hydrogen selenide does compared to hydrogen sulfide.

    Matthew Meselson Ah.

    Linus Pauling: In fact, Matt, some chemists were not careful when working with tellurium compounds, and they acquired a condition known as “tellurium breath.” As a result, they have become isolated from society. Some have even committed suicide.

    Matthew Meselson Oh.

    Linus Pauling: But Matt, I’m sure that you would be careful. Why don’t you think it over and let me know if you would like to work on the structure of some tellurium compounds?

     

    (For reference, hydrogen sulfide is the rotten-egg smell. Hydrogen selenide has been compared to a dead skunk wrapped in a rubber inner tube and set on fire. Tellurium is the next element down in that column of the periodic table.)

  30. 30.

    Tony G

    @SpaceUnit: I’ve never encountered durian, but I’m told that the taste is delicious (if you can endure the smell).  My father-in-law — who had been a young serviceman in the Japanese Navy near the coast of the Philippines in 1944 (and who survived some major battles with the U.S. Navy that year) — had a lifelong craving for durian.  I’m guessing that it might have been the only fresh fruit that he had access to at that time.

  31. 31.

    Villago Delenda Est

    May Alex Jones’ suffering never end.  Like the suffering he imposed on grieving families of schoolchildren slaughtered in the name of Moloch, one of America’s two true gods.

  32. 32.

    Citizen Alan

    @Tony G:

    They couldn’t take everything. They would be limited by the applicable state exemption laws. And possibly federal exemptions. I don’t know how that applies in Texas.

  35. 35.

    SpaceUnit

    @Tony G:

    I’ve heard that as well.  For me the senses of smell and taste are so interconnected that I think I’d have a rough time with it.

  38. 38.

    Tony G

    @Tony G: Japanese naval rations in 1944 were probably pretty bad, so I guess a horrible-smelling but tasty fruit must have seemed like quite a delicacy.  My mother-in-law, being a good Japanese wife, indulged her husband’s durian craving from time to time, much to the amusement of my wife and her sisters.

  39. 39.

    Tony G

    @Citizen Alan: Too bad.  Maybe he can just be beaten to death with baseball bats in a cornfield then.   Regarding exemptions … when my mother was in a nursing home that was paid for by Medicaid at the end of her life a few years ago, Medicaid rules allowed her to keep an exemption of the handsome sum of … $2000 (for all assets).  I would certainly be shocked to find out that a wealthy piece of garbage like Jones would be allowed to keep more than that.  (If the system favors someone like Jones more than it does a person getting Medicaid, that would make me question the “fairness of the system”.)

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    Tony G

    @SpaceUnit: I’m pretty sure that someone has to taste durian either at a young age or under unusual circumstances in order to appreciate it.  Natto — Japanese fermented soybeans — is in a similar category.  My sons (now in their thirties) like it because they’re been eating it since they were babies.  Not me, though.  I’ll leave it for them and my wife to enjoy.

  42. 42.

    kalakal

    @Tony G: I’ve smelt the stuff and that was more than enough. You’re right though, I think it’s a thing you need to get used to when young

  44. 44.

    NotMax

    @Tony G

    First time I encountered durian was already in my fifties (or maybe early sixties). Can attest to its tastiness. Once in a blue moon will stop by a local Filipino market which sells wafer cookies with a durian filling. Well-sealed thick metal tins, the cookies double bagged inside.

  45. 45.

    Ken

    @NotMax: I’m not sure I want to try a cookie that comes packaged as if opening it wrong would (to steal a line from Gaiman and Pratchett’s Good Omens) lead to lines like “And where this crater is now, once stood the City of Wah-Shing-Ton” in SF B-movies.

  46. 46.

    Citizen Alan

    @Tony G:  Again, it depends on the state. Also, I think the Medicaid Reclamation Act (which is what hit your mother in this case) works differently than bankruptcy exemptions. The latter is supposed to give the debtor a basis for a fresh start. In the former case, a fresh start isn’t necessary since the law only kicks in after the senior is deceased.

  47. 47.

    Hob

    @Tony G: I’ve eaten durian once, in a pie, and liked it. It doesn’t taste like it smells.

    I once worked in a doctor’s office where one day we evacuated the whole clinic for what we thought was a gas leak. It turned out it had just been someone sitting in the waiting room with a paper bag full of durian.

  48. 48.

    tokyokie

    @SpaceUnit:

    ETA:  Also my fruit of choice would be pineapples.

    Piker. I’ll bring a shopping cart full of durian

    I see lots of others are bringing durian, so I guess I’ll settle for dropping a large jackfruit on his head.

  49. 49.

    Ruckus

    @SpaceUnit:

    My sense of smell is gone, for about 6 yrs now. Every once in a great while I get a whiff of odd things that make no sense whatsoever, that are nothing I can identify. I’m still not eating durian.

  52. 52.

    JWR

    Being the kind, charitable person that I am, my fruit of choice would also be pineapple, but sliced and stored in its own succulent juices, and left inside the damn can!

  55. 55.

    Miss Bianca

    @Alison Rose: Rotten fruit was usually the least of some poor pilloried wretch’s worries. Stones were the usual missile of choice. Being pilloried could get you maimed for life or even killed.

    On second thought…for Alex Jones? Bring on the pillory!

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