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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Patty Murray Debates MAGA Opponent 8 pm Eastern

Patty Murray Debates MAGA Opponent 8 pm Eastern

by WaterGirl|  October 23, 20227:40 pm| 50 Comments

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Senator Patty Murray debates her Trump-supported MAGA opponent on Sunday.

This woman looks like another Kari Lake.  Ugh.

Let’s hope Patty Murray speaks as plainly as Biden did in this clip.

Biden: I don't want to hear it from Maga Republicans who had hundreds of thousands of dollars of debts, even millions of dollars in pandemic relief loans forgiven. Marjorie Taylor Greene, she and her husband got over $180,000 in business loans pic.twitter.com/WS9TPXIB2x

— Acyn (@Acyn) October 21, 2022

 

 

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  1. 1.

    WaterGirl

    October 23, 2022 at 7:55 pm

    Wow, a debate with the League of Women Voters!

    I didn’t think they did any debates anymore.

  2. 2.

    Jackie

    October 23, 2022 at 8:02 pm

    @WaterGirl: Rare indeed.

  3. 3.

    WaterGirl

    October 23, 2022 at 8:02 pm

    @Jackie: Was it you who mentioned the debate last night?

    If so, it may be just the two of us.

  4. 4.

    WaterGirl

    October 23, 2022 at 8:09 pm

    Patty Murray is a better debater than I would have expected.

  5. 5.

    Jackie

    October 23, 2022 at 8:10 pm

    @WaterGirl: It was. Smiley is from Pasco, one of the three cities that make up the Tri-Cities. I’d be overjoyed if we ever have a Democratic nominee from here… once Murray decides to hang up her tennis shoes.

  6. 6.

    Dan B

    October 23, 2022 at 8:15 pm

    @WaterGirl: My partner is watching!

  7. 7.

    Jackie

    October 23, 2022 at 8:18 pm

    I love when time is up the mic is cut. All debates should do this.

  8. 8.

    WaterGirl

    October 23, 2022 at 8:18 pm

    @Dan B: Yay, there are 3 of us!  :-)

  9. 9.

    John S.

    October 23, 2022 at 8:19 pm

    Tiffany Smiley is a ridiculous candidate. It’s astonishing that she’s even polling as close to Patty Murray as she allegedly is.

    I can’t wait to vote for Murray and send this vacuous MAGAt back to Pasco.

  10. 10.

    WaterGirl

    October 23, 2022 at 8:21 pm

    @Jackie: I didn’t notice that.  What cued you in?

  11. 11.

    Jackie

    October 23, 2022 at 8:23 pm

    Not breaching our dams is probably the only thing I agree with Smiley on.

  12. 12.

    WaterGirl

    October 23, 2022 at 8:23 pm

    I thought the rules said the candidates couldn’t talk directly to one another.  And this Tiffany person is doing that over and over.

    If I were Tiffany’s husband, I would be pissed that she was using my blindness for her political gain.

    edit: this woman gets more punchable every time she opens her mouth.

  13. 13.

    Jackie

    October 23, 2022 at 8:24 pm

    @WaterGirl: Smiley was talking after her time was up but only her mouth was moving lol

  14. 14.

    WaterGirl

    October 23, 2022 at 8:29 pm

    @Jackie: Ah.  I am listening and only watching occasionally so i didn’t catch that.

    How do you think it’s going?

  15. 15.

    Jackie

    October 23, 2022 at 8:32 pm

    Smiley turns on a fake smile in the middle of talking which bugs me – it’s like someone is reminding her to smile and look pretty right in the middle of her spiel. Who talks and smiles at the same time?

  16. 16.

    Jackie

    October 23, 2022 at 8:36 pm

    Patty knows her business – unsurprisingly. She sounds knowledgeable, calm and reassuring.

    Tiffany is all repub talking points. She sounds like Oz, Walker, Vance, etc etc.

  17. 17.

    WaterGirl

    October 23, 2022 at 8:37 pm

    Listening to these debates is painful

    edit: yes, they all sound the same, lies, fast talking spewing so much bullshit that you can’t rebut all of it.

  18. 18.

    WaterGirl

    October 23, 2022 at 8:39 pm

    @Jackie: Tiffany seems like one more pretty little woman-doll, so many of them running on the R side.

    No credentials, just looks.

  19. 19.

    Jackie

    October 23, 2022 at 8:39 pm

    @Jackie: I can’t believe McConnell is dumping $$ into her campaign.

  20. 20.

    CaseyL

    October 23, 2022 at 8:40 pm

    I’m not watching because I don’t need agita.  Happy to follow via this thread.
    I also have trouble believing Smiley is polling anywhere near Murray.  I expect Eastern Washington will go for Smiley, as the whole eastern half of the state has become MAGAt-ized, but seeing pockets of support for her in the western half is very distressing.
    PS – for anyone unfamiliar with Washington state, the western half is where a sizeable majority of the population lives.  Spokane and the Tri-cities are the only large metropolitan areas in the east (and Spokane is purplish, not blood red).  Seattle, Tacoma, Everett, Olympia, Vancouver, and Bellingham are all in western Washington.​

  21. 21.

    WaterGirl

    October 23, 2022 at 8:40 pm

    @Jackie: Tiffany also turns on the tears.  She is like an actress, not a real person.  ugh.

  22. 22.

    Jackie

    October 23, 2022 at 8:41 pm

    @WaterGirl: Trump approved. 🤪

  23. 23.

    WaterGirl

    October 23, 2022 at 8:41 pm

    @Jackie: I just looked and they said Tiffany is catching up in the polls.  So many people are just not critical thinkers.

  24. 24.

    WaterGirl

    October 23, 2022 at 8:42 pm

    Tiffany is so evasive.  She won’t answer the question of whether she believes that humans are impacting climate change.

  25. 25.

    Jackie

    October 23, 2022 at 8:42 pm

    @CaseyL: There’s a lot of MAGA counties west of the Cascades.

  26. 26.

    CaseyL

    October 23, 2022 at 8:43 pm

    @Jackie: True, but not a lot of population in those counties.

  27. 27.

    Jackie

    October 23, 2022 at 8:46 pm

    @WaterGirl: She can’t. She has to support the gov position, but she knows better. We have wind farms all over the region. It’s a huge industry here.

  28. 28.

    Jackie

    October 23, 2022 at 8:48 pm

    @CaseyL: The same voters who voted for Culp for governor, are voting for Smiley.

  29. 29.

    WaterGirl

    October 23, 2022 at 8:48 pm

    @Jackie: The “gov position”?  Maybe that’s supposed to be gop?

  30. 30.

    CaseyL

    October 23, 2022 at 8:50 pm

    @Jackie: And there weren’t anywhere near enough to get Culp elected.  I am fervently hoping that’s also true of Smiley.

  31. 31.

    Jackie

    October 23, 2022 at 8:52 pm

    Asked if she supports gay marriage: Gay marriage is settled law says the republican. Where have we heard “settled law” before?🤔 That’s not a yes or no answer.

  32. 32.

    Jackie

    October 23, 2022 at 8:53 pm

    @WaterGirl: yes. Auto correct error.

  33. 33.

    WaterGirl

    October 23, 2022 at 8:57 pm

    Here comes the breaking voice on Tiffany again.

  34. 34.

    WaterGirl

    October 23, 2022 at 8:59 pm

    @Jackie: At least Patty pre-butted that earlier when she said the SC justices all said Roe was settled law and then proceeded to destroy Roe.

  35. 35.

    Jackie

    October 23, 2022 at 9:01 pm

    It’s funny: I dropped my ballot off earlier today, so I don’t “need” to watch this debate, but it’s my only chance to see why Mitch and TFG think Smiley’s so special. I’m still not seeing why.

  36. 36.

    John S.

    October 23, 2022 at 9:01 pm

    @CaseyL:

    Indeed! I live in one of the most “purple” areas in western WA (Black Diamond) but there aren’t too many people here. Enumclaw to the south of here is pretty red, but also not heavily populated.

  37. 37.

    CarolPW

    October 23, 2022 at 9:01 pm

    @WaterGirl: I would wach but my power went out 2 hours ago. Voting for Patty but wanted to get a sense of her opponent since she’s from next door.

  38. 38.

    Jackie

    October 23, 2022 at 9:03 pm

    Patty pantsed her!👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  39. 39.

    Jackie

    October 23, 2022 at 9:05 pm

    @CarolPW: It’s on YouTube so you can watch it later. 😊

  40. 40.

    WaterGirl

    October 23, 2022 at 9:06 pm

    @Jackie: Her looks?  They are endlessly looking for the next Palin.

  41. 41.

    WaterGirl

    October 23, 2022 at 9:08 pm

    @CarolPW: You should be able to watch it from the embed in this post at any time.  just click watch on YouTube.

  42. 42.

    Jackie

    October 23, 2022 at 9:13 pm

    Thanks for posting and watching with me, WaterGirl!

    Next up: DeathSantis vs Crist tomorrow evening!

  43. 43.

    CarolPW

    October 23, 2022 at 9:19 pm

    @WaterGirl: If you knew the signal strength on my phone at my location you would not suggest that.

    However, my power has come back on, so will catch up after resetting all my clocks.

  44. 44.

    Dan B

    October 23, 2022 at 9:28 pm

    @WaterGirl: My partner said that Tiff is like Palin 2.0 – word salad.

  45. 45.

    catclub

    October 23, 2022 at 9:40 pm

    @Jackie: ​
     

    There’s a lot of MAGA counties west of the Cascades.

    Everybody says that. But you mean EAST.

  46. 46.

    LeftCoastYankee

    October 23, 2022 at 9:59 pm

    Dang missed it, but saw enough of Smiley when she was running stupid and dishonest ads through every Mariners game down the stretch. Let’s see:

    1. She moved 3 times with 3 kids and a disabled husband, so you know, on to the US Senate!
    2. Also Patty Murray made Seattle dangerous because Starbucks closed it’s Capital Hill location saying it was “unsafe” (i.e. “voted to unionize”).
    3. Something about groceries and beer prices, and voting for her would let you get back to enjoying the Mariners… (missing the more obvious solution of her going the f* away).

    I think McConnell sees garden variety stupid and dishonest is a better bet than “can hear the voices in Trump’s pumpkin-head” candidates.

  47. 47.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 23, 2022 at 10:04 pm

    @catclub: The counties between Vancouver and Olympia are pretty much like Oregon between Eugene and Ashland; terribly red and stupid.

  48. 48.

    Yutsano

    October 23, 2022 at 10:34 pm

    @catclub: ​She’s talking counties like Mason, Grays Harbour, Lewis, Cowlitz. That’s not an all-inclusive list, but those counties also don’t have a huge number of people. In order for Tiffany to win there would have to be some kind of backlash against Patty and I just don’t see it. Patty has historically outperformed her polling.

  49. 49.

    SeattleDem

    October 24, 2022 at 1:11 am

    My wife was struck by how Smiley was constantly fighting a straw man who has nothing to do with who Patty Murray is. We gave up in disgust after the third or fourth time of Smiley saying that Patty Murray is Washington DC establishment. We’ve followed Patty for many years, and what you see is who she is. Smart, dedicated, and no nonsense. She isn’t a life of the party type, but she gets shit done right.

  50. 50.

    WaterGirl

    October 24, 2022 at 10:39 am

    @Dan B: They found an attractive woman – until she opens her mouth – with a hook (VA / blind husband) and went for it.

    Republicans do not give even one shit about quality candidates.

    Appalling.

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