Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

“Jesus paying for the sins of everyone is an insult to those who paid for their own sins.”

In short, I come down firmly on all sides of the issue.

Whoever he was, that guy was nuts.

We cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation.

Why is it so hard for them to condemn hate?

Seems like a complicated subject, have you tried yelling at it?

They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!

Cole is on a roll !

Putin must be throwing ketchup at the walls.

Conservatism: there are some people the law protects but does not bind and others who the law binds but does not protect.

Republicans want to make it harder to vote and easier for them to cheat.

The GOP couldn’t organize an orgy in a whorehouse with a fist full of 50s.

Second rate reporter says what?

Peak wingnut was a lie.

It’s always darkest before the other shoe drops.

Take your GOP plan out of the witness protection program.

I’d like to think you all would remain faithful to me if i ever tried to have some of you killed.

Russian mouthpiece, go fuck yourself.

DeSantis transforms Florida into 1930s Germany with gators and theme parks.

You don’t get to peddle hatred on saturday and offer condolences on sunday.

Only Democrats have agency, apparently.

Anyone who bans teaching American history has no right to shape America’s future.

Imperialist aggressors must be defeated, or the whole world loses.

Meanwhile over at truth Social, the former president is busy confessing to crimes.

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  3. 3.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    Ah, excellent, the Conservatives are now claiming Fetterman faked a stroke, so he could claim the victim vote.  Yes, like how liberal women are addicted to ending their pregnancies with serious physical and emotional trauma we liberal men can’t get enough of life altering crippling disease to get that sweet, sweet socialized sympathy.

  6. 6.

    mrmoshpotato

    Now that we are done with fake red tsunamis, can we please turn back to real orange jumpsuits?

    Is there one for George’s Trump trash wife?

  7. 7.

    Geoduck

    That map should have a tiny little red dot in Florida.

    And you know that the Shiatgibbon’s star is going into eclipse when Ben Garrison switches to DeSantis as his new man-crush.

  8. 8.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

    Ah, excellent, the Conservatives are now claiming Fetterman faked a stroke, so he could claim the victim vote. 

    Hillary Clinton called them “deplorable,” and they lost their shit.

    She was being nice!

  12. 12.

    TriassicSands

    …and it’s because these women just went crazy. — Creepy Fox News commentator [emphasis mine]

    Yeah, it’s really crazy to vote when your right to control your own reproductive life is threatened. Just Nuts! What the hell is wrong with women?

  14. 14.

    Hitchhiker

    I’m so happy to see all those fools eating their smug words about how people just don’t care that much about abortion.

    Most disgusting to me is one Sarah Isgur, whom I have a petty loathing for that is probably out of all proportion but I do not care. She was a rich girl from Houston. She was political director for Ted Cruz in 2010. She worked in DOJ under Trump, where one of her signature moves was defending the child separation policy. She was senior counsel to Rod Rosenstein during the Mueller investigation, and that’s where I really lose my shit with her.

    She leaked private text messages between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, and did it in such a way that the DOJ could pretend someone from congress had done it. That was our Department of Justice, baldly using irrelevant (but juicy!) personal information to give trump cover, indifferent to the personal cost to people who were — gasp! — having an affair. Trump spent the next few years mocking them in public as part of his delightful riff about the “Russia Hoax.”
    Sarah Isgur Flores ‘summoned a select group of reporters to the Department’s offices.’
    ‘There, they allowed the reporters to view the 375 text messages. The reporters were told they were not permitted to remove or copy the messages and could not source the messages to DOJ’
    Last week I happened to see Sarah Isgur (who now appears on ABC to deliver her worthless political commentary) informing the public that nobody cares about abortion, and Democrats were really stupid to try to run on something as dumb as half the country losing a basic right to privacy. Red wave, etc.
    Fuck you, Sarah. Seriously fuck you. I’d tell her this on twitter, but she blocked me, for obvious reasons. :)

  15. 15.

    Major Major Major Major

    Jon Ralston says NV-Sen is looking pretty good

  16. 16.

    Princess

    They’re not going to be able to get rid of Trump so easily. His followers won’t think he failed; they’ll say he was failed by the GOP.

    They won’t be able to get rid of us so easily either. I already see the same pundits and election forecasters who denied it was an issue this time trying to suggest it was a one-off. Abortion is not going away as an issue.

  18. 18.

    BeautifulPlumage

    @Princess: maybe not the folks who travel from rally to rally, but there has to be some fair weather tr*mpers who will leave because of the loser stink. (Or maybe not)

  20. 20.

    eclare

    @Hitchhiker:   Oh wow, I did not know any of that background.  But anytime TFG mentioned Lisa, in a grotesque and pervy way, I almost threw up.  He was giddy with cruelty.

  23. 23.

    Princess

    @BeautifulPlumage: absolutely but it will split the party. The MAGATs will hate that the “establishment “ is gunning for their hero. They’re Trumpers first, GOP second. And the press will never stop following Trump around. And De Santis is a dishrag. I’m feeling the Jeb!mentum already. Whoever comes out on top, it won’t be pretty.

  26. 26.

    NotMax

    @eclare

    Ultra full day in town. ½ hours all told running aro9und completing errands and grocery obtaining.

    Nursing a sore and tender arm and numb fingers on the hand of the same side from the bivalent vaccine shot.

  27. 27.

    NotMax

    @NotMax

    (No edit function. Fix.)

    Ultra full day in town. 8½ hours all told running around completing errands and grocery obtaining.

    Nursing a sore and tender arm and numb fingers on the hand of the same side from the bivalent vaccine shot.

  31. 31.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    Honestly, this Election Day is coming to feel like Dunkirk for me. Historical trends, unanticipated economic disasters, active sabotage by the GOP, all were ingredients for a really bad night, but Democrats really outperformed all of that in a big way, helped by anger over Dobbs and fear about the future of the democratic experiment in the United States.

    But we might still lose the House and/or the Senate, even if it’s only by razor-thin margins.

    So … we’re intact, motivated, ready to kick ass in the future … but in a worse position than last week.

    Dunkirk.

  33. 33.

    TriassicSands

    @JoyceH:

    Agreed, Joyce, but amazingly, it is just as easy to say, “Which makes sense…,” or “Who can blame them….”  I’m fully aware that he wasn’t implying that women had actually gone “crazy,” but even as a man, I’m horrified by what is happening post-Dobbs to women. I’m going to be disappointed — unrealistic as that is — if every single woman in America doesn’t stand up and say, “Enough.” I will always vote to try to help protect women’s rights, even though, deep down, I don’t really believe that men should have anything to say about women’s reproductive lives. Since there is no practical way to allow only women to vote on such an issue — Dobbs would have gone down 2-1 on the SCOTUS if that were possible — I’ll vote as if I were a women who believed in her own autonomy. And the actual turnout numbers aren’t high enough to even hint at extraordinary behavior. Turnout was good for a “midterm election.” But more people should have voted in this election than in any other election we’ve even had, because more is at stake and the threat isn’t going away.

  35. 35.

    lgerard

    UGH

    The people who blame this on trump or claim that the republican party has a “trump problem” still don’t get it.  trump is what he has always been, a symptom. not a cause.  The republicans problem is that they have surrendered their party to religious fanatics and gun nuts and allowed those subcultures to define what a republican is and is not.  Until that changes they are going to have a lot of nights like this despite their best gerrymandering efforts.

  37. 37.

    TriassicSands

    @BeautifulPlumage:

    I fear the “loser stink” smells like roses to wingnuts. That said, I think Trump’s act may be getting old even for some of his die-hard supporters. All he does is whine about what a victim of injustice he is. Eventually,  that and his age may seriously cut into his support. DeSantis offers even the worst of the cultists all they could hope for in a candidate — with far greater promise of delivering for them in the future. Yeah, they’re stupid, but that “loser stink” just keeps getting worse and worse. His supporters want to impose their beliefs and preferences on everyone (no gays, no immigrants, etc.) and DeSantis is fully on board.

    My hope is that as Trump continues to whine and fade, he decides he’d rather burn down the whole party than cede control to DeSantis. That could create significant difficulties for the whole party and with full-scale internecine warfare in progress, Democrats will have a better chance of regaining or retaining control.

  38. 38.

    JWR

    Speaking of corrupt L.A. County Sheriffs, can anyone say campaign finance law violation?

    This video of Sheriff Villanueva asking deputies to donate to his campaign is going around today. In it he complains that ALADS, the deputy union, hasn’t given him the big bucks like it did in 2018 despite endorsing him again. In 2018, union spent a million plus to elect him pic.twitter.com/iiff22x1Y4
    — Alene Tchekmedyian (@AleneTchek) November 4, 2022

    I voted for his opponent, Robert Luna, for the same reason I voted for Villanueva 4 years ago: to get rid of Jim McDonnell. All lateral moves, I know, but the amendment allowing the Board of Sups to get rid of corrupt sheriffs passed, so I’m hoping that’s a good trade-off for now.

  42. 42.

    JWR

    @NaijaGal: Yeah. One of the things Villanueva did 4 years ago was to pledge not to turn undocumented immigrants over to ICE. Good way to score “Elect Me” points back then, but since then, not much, including a promise to root out deputy gangs, which Luna is talking up this time. But like I said, another lateral move on the part of those doing the hiring. We shall see.

  45. 45.

    Matt McIrvin

    I guess the lesson here is that the way Republicans can still win big is by literally threatening to put opposition voters in jail.

  47. 47.

    livewyre

    @Matt McIrvin: I went into this election with the realization that what to do afterward would be the same no matter how it went. It doesn’t matter how Jeb or McCain might still pull through. They can threaten to use nuclear weapons if it pleases them. We don’t stop.

  48. 48.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @BeautifulPlumage:

    there has to be some fair weather tr*mpers

    There are and have been.  Most Trump voters and the vast majority of elected officials have left him.  People don’t get it for a few reasons.

    1.  His remaining followers are LOUD.
    2. Republicans, especially at the voter level, will never say he is less than perfect when asked, because Fuck You, Libs.  They have been like this since a black man became president.  Total war.
    3. Election denial has been a major plank of the GOP for decades.  Trump is just their only president to push it, and as always he said the quiet parts out loud.  Screamed them.  Shit, how do you think they justified decades of voter restriction laws?  Election denier does not equal Trump worshipper.
    4. Nobody notices ‘have lost their enthusiasm rather than repudiated’ voters.  They notice freak shows like CPAC and rallies.
    5. Being an extremist crazy is a big advantage in Republican primaries.  Trump is a good endorsement with the frothing lunatics who dominate that vote.
    6. They’ll pay his legal costs because Fuck You, Libs, and anyway having him in legal jeopardy is terrible politics.

    Please note that in terms of policy, of what they do, almost everybody has moved on.  Nobody asks him about what laws he wants, or caters to him when he makes a demand.  They do what they’ve always done, a bit more brazenly.

  49. 49.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Baud:

    The difference between 50 and 51 is big.

    That difference didn’t help the first time, and we’ve been the ones swarming special elections this year.  I’m optimistic about Warnock.

    EDIT – And what a difference in two years, where Warnock winning was close to unthinkable!

  51. 51.

    Rusty

    My father has always described as a fundamental American right, the right to be left alone.  It may not be formalized in the constitution, but it sure is a core American belief.

    As for Trump candidates, there are no such things.  We still have primaries and the base picked the loser candidates.  The problem isn’t Trump, it’s the Republican base.  The best description I have heard is Trump didn’t create the role, he just auditioned for it.  The base may eventually want someone new for the role like Desantis, but in the end he will still just be filling the role the base wants.  That Trump was particularly good at playing it and energizing the base doesn’t change the fundamental relationship.

  53. 53.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Rusty: And it was working against us during COVID. The antimaskers/antivaxxers chose “my body, my choice” as deliberate mockery of the abortion-rights movement, but they were also making use of the principle: I can do what I want, in their case, even if it literally kills other people.

  54. 54.

    Geminid

    @Rusty: The late M.D. Russ, writing for conservative site Bearing Drift:

       Trump did not hijack the Republican Party….He just answered the casting call.

    Russ was a retired Army Colonel and “independent conservative” who passed away this spring. His article “Trump is the Republican President”* examined the course of the Republican party from Newt Gingrich’s Contract for America until 2020. His conclusion was that Trump’s 2016 candidacy was the culmination of a dynamic that Gingrich invigorated and subsequent politicians promoted.

    *Bearing Drift, June 20, 2020. Bearing Drift is published by self-described conservatives, and focuses on Virginia politics, especially Republican party politics.

  58. 58.

    LiminalOwl

    @Hitchhiker: For whatever my opinion is worth: I would say it is impossible to have a loathing too great for someone who defended the child separation policy.

  59. 59.

    trucmat

    Half those Twitter embeds are meaningless without following the link to Twitter. No thanks. I’m sure there was a point and the writer included them for a reason but without going to Twitter it’s just gibberish. Perhaps the writer could write a sentence about the tweet so it makes sense in place instead of relying on the reader to go to Twitter.

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